THe Rookie Nolan's Landlord Is...

[Horace LaBadie]

Billionaire Walter Mashburn.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Horace LaBadie <hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:

>Billionaire Walter Mashburn.

I had to look it up. You're making a reference to The Mentalist.

There goes my mother's theory that it was Castle.

[anim8rfsk]

And worse, Robin Masters himself showed up this week.

Unless Castle is having a psychotic break and hallucinating him.

We'll see how long it takes before somebody *else* sees him.

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It was a decent theory given that we had nothing to go on as to who
really owned the home. At least now we know who really owns the home
and that they both really do have a good friendship.

[Adam H. Kerman]

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:18:41 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Horace LaBadie <hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:

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>>>Billionaire Walter Mashburn.

>>I had to look it up. You're making a reference to The Mentalist.

>>There goes my mother's theory that it was Castle.

>And worse, Robin Masters himself showed up this week.

>Unless Castle is having a psychotic break and hallucinating him.

>We'll see how long it takes before somebody *else* sees him.

If we're going to discuss this week's episode, then lets use spoiler
space.

As Horace LaBadie observed, the owner of the apartment that John (Nathan
Fillion) is staying in showed up. It's Ben no-last-name, played by
Currie Graham, who announced himself as John's best friend. Graham
usually plays villainous or officious characters; sympathetic is a
change. He thinks John is a moron for letting Lucy (Melissa O'Neil) go
and points out that he shouldn't cling to women, just have fun. I liked
Two a whole lot but Lucy isn't going to do anything for me, not until
she finds her inner Two.

It's yet another episode framed by a stupid competition as plot
device! Gawd these writers are just pathetic. The resolution is offensive
and idiotic; everyone lets Tim win because it makes him feel close to
his drug-addicted wife. Huh?

Tim charms Nell, one of the dispatchers. Hey! It's Sara Rue from Impastor!
They made a beautiful woman look Hollywood homely, which means glasses
that aren't quite right for her face and her hair up in an unflattering
bun and drab clothing. I kept waiting for the scene in She's All That
but we don't get it. He keeps asking her for favors; finally, she agrees
to stay three hours late on the job after her shift ends. Somehow I have
a feeling that wouldn't be allowed.

Also, wouldn't Los Angeles have centralized police dispatchers in a
single call center and they wouldn't be at each police station? Chicago
did that in the 1960s.

All Nell asked for was a drink. I thought he'd take her to a bar, but
no, it's some outdoor seating area at the police station. He tells her
he's married. Nell says she doesn't do "complicated" and walks away.

Good for Nell. I really liked her for that.

I thought there weren't going to be any shootouts on the episode at all;
the first half had none. We get one at the beginning of the second half,
and another later in the episode.

As John finds trouble everywhere he goes, he suspects a boy at a block
party the cops attend for public relations is in trouble and discovers
that he's drowned. He really should have cleared the kid's airway
immediately but it's more dramatic to carry him out front. All he had to
do was shout at the boy's friends to get the paramedics who were also at
the party.

Then, John and Talia investigate a noise complaint, which turns out to
be a mob banker terrified of his bosses. Later in the episode, this
turns into murder and kidnapping.

It's still largely STOOPID but it had more moments of entertainment this
week than in previous episodes so I'm not yet ready to declare a rancid
onioning.

[anim8rfsk]

Thu, 22 Nov 2018 11:02:23 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:18:41 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> > > Horace LaBadie <hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
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> > > > Billionaire Walter Mashburn.
>
> > > I had to look it up. You're making a reference to The Mentalist.
>
> > > There goes my mother's theory that it was Castle.
>
> > And worse, Robin Masters himself showed up this week.
>
> > Unless Castle is having a psychotic break and hallucinating him.
>
> > We'll see how long it takes before somebody *else* sees him.
>
> If we're going to discuss this week's episode, then lets use spoiler
> space.

Hey, it says SPOILERS right in the subject line!!!

> As Horace LaBadie observed, the owner of the apartment that John (Nathan

It's not an apartment. In the first ep it was a guest house, just like Robin
Masters, which quickly became 'he's staying in the main house' which is why
Robin was in his kitchen.

> Fillion) is staying in showed up. It's Ben no-last-name, played by
> Currie Graham, who announced himself as John's best friend. Graham
> usually plays villainous or officious characters; sympathetic is a
> change. He thinks John is a moron for letting Lucy (Melissa O'Neil) go
> and points out that he shouldn't cling to women, just have fun. I liked

Robin knowing any of this makes *no* sense continuity wise. In previous
episodes all Castle knew was that Robin was away; he didn't even know what
COUNTRY he was in. What's he doing, emailing this guy his diary even though
he hears nothing back?

> Two a whole lot but Lucy isn't going to do anything for me, not until
> she finds her inner Two.

This week we unfortunately saw a huge hideous ugly disfiguring tattoo pop up
out of her collar; she has become massively less attractive to me.

> It's yet another episode framed by a stupid competition as plot
> device! Gawd these writers are just pathetic. The resolution is offensive
> and idiotic; everyone lets Tim win because it makes him feel close to
> his drug-addicted wife. Huh?

For the third year in a row. Even though his wife's only been missing for
one.

> Tim charms Nell, one of the dispatchers. Hey! It's Sara Rue from Impastor!

Or Big Bang Theory, when it was funny.

> They made a beautiful woman look Hollywood homely, which means glasses
> that aren't quite right for her face and her hair up in an unflattering

But she's lost a lot of weight.

> bun and drab clothing. I kept waiting for the scene in She's All That
> but we don't get it. He keeps asking her for favors; finally, she agrees
> to stay three hours late on the job after her shift ends. Somehow I have
> a feeling that wouldn't be allowed.

Oh, it's SO much worse than that.

> Also, wouldn't Los Angeles have centralized police dispatchers in a
> single call center and they wouldn't be at each police station? Chicago
> did that in the 1960s.

Well, you call 911, who asks you what sort of help you need, and then refuses
to connect you or connects you to the wrong service (at least that's the
procedure here) and then you get to police or fire dispatchers who know what
they're doing. So this might be that. But a room with only TWO people in it?
And, her shift over, she's leaving before her replacement shows up. And then
just decides to stay. Yeah, there's a system that's all kinks.

> All Nell asked for was a drink. I thought he'd take her to a bar, but
> no, it's some outdoor seating area at the police station. He tells her
> he's married. Nell says she doesn't do "complicated" and walks away.

How come she's the only one on the force that doesn't know his backstory?

> Good for Nell. I really liked her for that.

Yeah

> I thought there weren't going to be any shootouts on the episode at all;
> the first half had none. We get one at the beginning of the second half,
> and another later in the episode.

It wouldn't be Castle Rook (hey, in Firefly he was a Knight - has he played a
pawn yet? Or, God help us, a Queen?) without shootouts!

> As John finds trouble everywhere he goes, he suspects a boy at a block
> party the cops attend for public relations is in trouble and discovers
> that he's drowned. He really should have cleared the kid's airway

That was some bad rescue technique there. CALL FOR FREAKING HELP BEFORE YOU
JUMP IN THE POOL WITH ALL YOUR GEAR! He's lucky they didn't have to pull HIM
off the bottom.

> immediately but it's more dramatic to carry him out front. All he had to
> do was shout at the boy's friends to get the paramedics who were also at
> the party.

Shout? He's on a live camera feed! And radio!

> Then, John and Talia investigate a noise complaint, which turns out to
> be a mob banker terrified of his bosses. Later in the episode, this
> turns into murder and kidnapping.

Lucky he just happened to recognize the home address of the suspect that he
had seen at the office and never booked.

> It's still largely STOOPID but it had more moments of entertainment this
> week than in previous episodes so I'm not yet ready to declare a rancid
> onioning.

Yeah, it's no HOOTEN AND THE LADY but it's still watchable now that the
stupid is settled in and we're ready for it.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I changed Subject to add the spoiler warning and episode title, yes.

>>As Horace LaBadie observed, the owner of the apartment that John (Nathan

>It's not an apartment. In the first ep it was a guest house, just like Robin
>Masters, which quickly became 'he's staying in the main house' which is why
>Robin was in his kitchen.

It's just a small house with a spectacular view? What, there's a bedroom
we've never seen, living room and kitchen?

Maybe you're right. I'm watching another show in which people are
staying for free in a spare guest house and got confused.

>>Fillion) is staying in showed up. It's Ben no-last-name, played by
>>Currie Graham, who announced himself as John's best friend. Graham
>>usually plays villainous or officious characters; sympathetic is a
>>change. He thinks John is a moron for letting Lucy (Melissa O'Neil) go
>>and points out that he shouldn't cling to women, just have fun. I liked

>Robin knowing any of this makes *no* sense continuity wise. In previous
>episodes all Castle knew was that Robin was away; he didn't even know what
>COUNTRY he was in. What's he doing, emailing this guy his diary even though
>he hears nothing back?

I thought Ben gleaned this from the setup dialogue; don't think he knew
who John was dating earlier.

>>Two a whole lot but Lucy isn't going to do anything for me, not until
>>she finds her inner Two.

>This week we unfortunately saw a huge hideous ugly disfiguring tattoo pop up
>out of her collar; she has become massively less attractive to me.

>>It's yet another episode framed by a stupid competition as plot
>>device! Gawd these writers are just pathetic. The resolution is offensive
>>and idiotic; everyone lets Tim win because it makes him feel close to
>>his drug-addicted wife. Huh?

>For the third year in a row. Even though his wife's only been missing for
>one.

Is that all? In any event, you're supposed to recommend Al-Anon to the
grieving husband, not letting him win a stupid contest that shouldn't be
played in the first place for exactly the reasons Talia stated.

>>Tim charms Nell, one of the dispatchers. Hey! It's Sara Rue from Impastor!

>Or Big Bang Theory, when it was funny.

>>They made a beautiful woman look Hollywood homely, which means glasses
>>that aren't quite right for her face and her hair up in an unflattering

>But she's lost a lot of weight.

She did? When was she ever heavy?

>>bun and drab clothing. I kept waiting for the scene in She's All That
>>but we don't get it. He keeps asking her for favors; finally, she agrees
>>to stay three hours late on the job after her shift ends. Somehow I have
>>a feeling that wouldn't be allowed.

>Oh, it's SO much worse than that.

>>Also, wouldn't Los Angeles have centralized police dispatchers in a
>>single call center and they wouldn't be at each police station? Chicago
>>did that in the 1960s.

>Well, you call 911, who asks you what sort of help you need, and then refuses
>to connect you or connects you to the wrong service (at least that's the
>procedure here) and then you get to police or fire dispatchers who know what
>they're doing. So this might be that. But a room with only TWO people in it?
>And, her shift over, she's leaving before her replacement shows up. And then
>just decides to stay. Yeah, there's a system that's all kinks.

As far as I know, when 911 is called in Chicago, you speak directly to
police dispatch. I think the operator assigns the squad car without
going through another person, but perhaps that's not correct.

If it's a fire/ambulance/rescue call, they transfer to a fire department
dispatcher.

>>All Nell asked for was a drink. I thought he'd take her to a bar, but
>>no, it's some outdoor seating area at the police station. He tells her
>>he's married. Nell says she doesn't do "complicated" and walks away.

>How come she's the only one on the force that doesn't know his backstory?

>>Good for Nell. I really liked her for that.

>Yeah

But it means the character was a one-off. I hope the actress gets some
decent roles or another fun tv series.

>>I thought there weren't going to be any shootouts on the episode at all;
>>the first half had none. We get one at the beginning of the second half,
>>and another later in the episode.

>It wouldn't be Castle Rook (hey, in Firefly he was a Knight - has he played a
>pawn yet? Or, God help us, a Queen?) without shootouts!

Yeah.

>>As John finds trouble everywhere he goes, he suspects a boy at a block
>>party the cops attend for public relations is in trouble and discovers
>>that he's drowned. He really should have cleared the kid's airway

>That was some bad rescue technique there. CALL FOR FREAKING HELP BEFORE YOU
>JUMP IN THE POOL WITH ALL YOUR GEAR! He's lucky they didn't have to pull HIM
>off the bottom.

That's probably not good for your gun and bullets, and radio.

>>immediately but it's more dramatic to carry him out front. All he had to
>>do was shout at the boy's friends to get the paramedics who were also at
>>the party.

>Shout? He's on a live camera feed! And radio!

Good point.

>>Then, John and Talia investigate a noise complaint, which turns out to
>>be a mob banker terrified of his bosses. Later in the episode, this
>>turns into murder and kidnapping.

>Lucky he just happened to recognize the home address of the suspect that he
>had seen at the office and never booked.

I swear this is the same police station Hunter and Dee Dee worked out
of, not to mention Emergency! It's serves a neighborhood with both
poverty and fabulous homes for the wealthy.

>>It's still largely STOOPID but it had more moments of entertainment this
>>week than in previous episodes so I'm not yet ready to declare a rancid
>>onioning.

>Yeah, it's no HOOTEN AND THE LADY but it's still watchable now that the
>stupid is settled in and we're ready for it.

Actually, I thought the previous episode was not watchable.

The real problem is the show lacks fun. Nathan Fillion is supposed to
know how to make fun tv.

[anim8rfsk]

"Humor. It is a difficult concept." - Saavik of Vulcan.

> > > As Horace LaBadie observed, the owner of the apartment that John (Nathan
>
> > It's not an apartment. In the first ep it was a guest house, just like Robin
> > Masters, which quickly became 'he's staying in the main house' which is why
> > Robin was in his kitchen.
>
> It's just a small house with a spectacular view? What, there's a bedroom
> we've never seen, living room and kitchen?
>
> Maybe you're right. I'm watching another show in which people are
> staying for free in a spare guest house and got confused.

It's a gigantic fabulous house that he was staying in the guest quarters of
in the pilot and then moved without explanation to the main house.

> > > Fillion) is staying in showed up. It's Ben no-last-name, played by
> > > Currie Graham, who announced himself as John's best friend. Graham
> > > usually plays villainous or officious characters; sympathetic is a
> > > change. He thinks John is a moron for letting Lucy (Melissa O'Neil) go
> > > and points out that he shouldn't cling to women, just have fun. I liked
>
> > Robin knowing any of this makes *no* sense continuity wise. In previous
> > episodes all Castle knew was that Robin was away; he didn't even know what
> > COUNTRY he was in. What's he doing, emailing this guy his diary even though
> > he hears nothing back?
>
> I thought Ben gleaned this from the setup dialogue; don't think he knew
> who John was dating earlier.

He didn't even know The Nookie had become a Nookie - but somehow he knew he
broke up with the other Nookie.

> > > Two a whole lot but Lucy isn't going to do anything for me, not until
> > > she finds her inner Two.
>
> > This week we unfortunately saw a huge hideous ugly disfiguring tattoo pop up
> > out of her collar; she has become massively less attractive to me.
>
> > > It's yet another episode framed by a stupid competition as plot
> > > device! Gawd these writers are just pathetic. The resolution is offensive
> > > and idiotic; everyone lets Tim win because it makes him feel close to
> > > his drug-addicted wife. Huh?
>
> > For the third year in a row. Even though his wife's only been missing for
> > one.
>
> Is that all? In any event, you're supposed to recommend Al-Anon to the
> grieving husband, not letting him win a stupid contest that shouldn't be
> played in the first place for exactly the reasons Talia stated.

So why did they let him win the two years BEFORE she went MIA?

> > > Tim charms Nell, one of the dispatchers. Hey! It's Sara Rue from Impastor!
>
> > Or Big Bang Theory, when it was funny.
>
> > > They made a beautiful woman look Hollywood homely, which means glasses
> > > that aren't quite right for her face and her hair up in an unflattering
>
> > But she's lost a lot of weight.
>
> She did? When was she ever heavy?

Seriously? She's been bouncing up and down 50 pounds for years.
https://www.usdietalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/sara-rue-1024x641.jpg

> > > bun and drab clothing. I kept waiting for the scene in She's All That
> > > but we don't get it. He keeps asking her for favors; finally, she agrees
> > > to stay three hours late on the job after her shift ends. Somehow I have
> > > a feeling that wouldn't be allowed.
>
> > Oh, it's SO much worse than that.
>
> > > Also, wouldn't Los Angeles have centralized police dispatchers in a
> > > single call center and they wouldn't be at each police station? Chicago
> > > did that in the 1960s.
>
> > Well, you call 911, who asks you what sort of help you need, and then
> > refuses
> > to connect you or connects you to the wrong service (at least that's the
> > procedure here) and then you get to police or fire dispatchers who know what
> > they're doing. So this might be that. But a room with only TWO people in it?
> > And, her shift over, she's leaving before her replacement shows up. And then
> > just decides to stay. Yeah, there's a system that's all kinks.
>
> As far as I know, when 911 is called in Chicago, you speak directly to
> police dispatch. I think the operator assigns the squad car without
> going through another person, but perhaps that's not correct.
>
> If it's a fire/ambulance/rescue call, they transfer to a fire department
> dispatcher.

In Phoenix, you get a nasty operator who asks the nature of your emergency,
and then switches you to Fire or Police (I suppose they might also switch you
to animal control or wherever but I've never had to make that call). They
used to try to get more info and triage you at their level, but that just got
people killed, so now they put you through. I'm not sure how they know where
you are to know where to put you through *to* though.

Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time (if ever) I asked for
Police in Phoenix, it's always Fire/Medics, so I might be talking to the
Police and get shunted off.

> > > All Nell asked for was a drink. I thought he'd take her to a bar, but
> > > no, it's some outdoor seating area at the police station. He tells her
> > > he's married. Nell says she doesn't do "complicated" and walks away.
>
> > How come she's the only one on the force that doesn't know his backstory?
>
> > > Good for Nell. I really liked her for that.
>
> > Yeah
>
> But it means the character was a one-off. I hope the actress gets some
> decent roles or another fun tv series.

+1

> > > I thought there weren't going to be any shootouts on the episode at all;
> > > the first half had none. We get one at the beginning of the second half,
> > > and another later in the episode.
>
> > It wouldn't be Castle Rook (hey, in Firefly he was a Knight - has he played
> > a
> > pawn yet? Or, God help us, a Queen?) without shootouts!
>
> Yeah.
>
> > > As John finds trouble everywhere he goes, he suspects a boy at a block
> > > party the cops attend for public relations is in trouble and discovers
> > > that he's drowned. He really should have cleared the kid's airway
>
> > That was some bad rescue technique there. CALL FOR FREAKING HELP BEFORE YOU
> > JUMP IN THE POOL WITH ALL YOUR GEAR! He's lucky they didn't have to pull HIM
> > off the bottom.
>
> That's probably not good for your gun and bullets, and radio.

I was sure his T.O. was going to tell him to go dry off his bullets.

> > > immediately but it's more dramatic to carry him out front. All he had to
> > > do was shout at the boy's friends to get the paramedics who were also at
> > > the party.
>
> > Shout? He's on a live camera feed! And radio!
>
> Good point.

Also he's just in the back yard (was anybody else annoyed that they just went
into this guy's side yard to get water in the first place?) and screaming
like a little girl might have done it. So would 'looking to see if they have
a lifeguard hook to bring the kid in'

And what the Hell did this kid do? Just wander into the back yard and fall in
and drown? It's not like he was a toddler.

> > > Then, John and Talia investigate a noise complaint, which turns out to
> > > be a mob banker terrified of his bosses. Later in the episode, this
> > > turns into murder and kidnapping.
>
> > Lucky he just happened to recognize the home address of the suspect that he
> > had seen at the office and never booked.
>
> I swear this is the same police station Hunter and Dee Dee worked out
> of, not to mention Emergency! It's serves a neighborhood with both
> poverty and fabulous homes for the wealthy.

TJ Hooker too.

> > > It's still largely STOOPID but it had more moments of entertainment this
> > > week than in previous episodes so I'm not yet ready to declare a rancid
> > > onioning.
>
> > Yeah, it's no HOOTEN AND THE LADY but it's still watchable now that the
> > stupid is settled in and we're ready for it.
>
> Actually, I thought the previous episode was not watchable.
>
> The real problem is the show lacks fun. Nathan Fillion is supposed to
> know how to make fun tv.

Yeah. The first half of the pilot ep was fun. It collapsed when he moved into
Robin Master's estate.

[Adam H. Kerman]

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>Thu, 22 Nov 2018 12:11:25 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>Thu, 22 Nov 2018 11:02:23 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:18:41 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Horace LaBadie <hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:

>> > > s
>> > > p
>> > > o
>> > > i
>> > > l
>> > > e
>> > > r
>> > >
>> > > s
>> > > p
>> > > a
>> > > c
>> > > e

>>>>. . .

>>>>It's yet another episode framed by a stupid competition as plot
>>>>device! Gawd these writers are just pathetic. The resolution is offensive
>>>>and idiotic; everyone lets Tim win because it makes him feel close to
>>>>his drug-addicted wife. Huh?

>>>For the third year in a row. Even though his wife's only been missing for
>>>one.

>>Is that all? In any event, you're supposed to recommend Al-Anon to the
>>grieving husband, not letting him win a stupid contest that shouldn't be
>>played in the first place for exactly the reasons Talia stated.

>So why did they let him win the two years BEFORE she went MIA?

It's not wankable. Maybe the other cops thought they were a cute couple
and deserved to win.

>>>>Tim charms Nell, one of the dispatchers. Hey! It's Sara Rue from Impastor!

>>>Or Big Bang Theory, when it was funny.

>>>>They made a beautiful woman look Hollywood homely, which means glasses
>>>>that aren't quite right for her face and her hair up in an unflattering

>>>But she's lost a lot of weight.

>>She did? When was she ever heavy?

>Seriously? She's been bouncing up and down 50 pounds for years.
>https://www.usdietalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/sara-rue-1024x641.jpg

I didn't remember. What tv show was she on at the time?

>>>>. . .

>>>>As John finds trouble everywhere he goes, he suspects a boy at a block
>>>>party the cops attend for public relations is in trouble and discovers
>>>>that he's drowned. He really should have cleared the kid's airway

>>>That was some bad rescue technique there. CALL FOR FREAKING HELP BEFORE YOU
>>>JUMP IN THE POOL WITH ALL YOUR GEAR! He's lucky they didn't have to pull HIM
>>>off the bottom.

>>That's probably not good for your gun and bullets, and radio.

>I was sure his T.O. was going to tell him to go dry off his bullets.

You put them in the oven and bake them to get the water out of the
gunpowder, right?

>>>>. . .

[Horace LaBadie]

In article <0001HW.21A6DB6404...@NEWS.EASYNEWS.COM>,

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> Thu, 22 Nov 2018 00:18:41 -0700 Adam H. Kerman<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > Horace LaBadie <hlab...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Billionaire Walter Mashburn.
> >
> > I had to look it up. You're making a reference to The Mentalist.
> >
> > There goes my mother's theory that it was Castle.
>
> And worse, Robin Masters himself showed up this week.
>
> Unless Castle is having a psychotic break and hallucinating him.
>
> We'll see how long it takes before somebody *else* sees him.

Two alternate theories.

Nolan is dying on the floor of the bank after being shot by the bank
robber, and this is all happening as his brain shuts down.

Or Nolan is in a coma in the hospital after being shot during the bank
robbery.

If Terry O'Quinn or Nestor Carbonell shows up, he's screwed.

[anim8rfsk]

She was pretty heavy on BIG BANG. I don't recall right off hand beyond that,
except I'm often surprised when I see her 'cause she looks so different.

> > > > > . . .

> > > > > As John finds trouble everywhere he goes, he suspects a boy at a block
> > > > > party the cops attend for public relations is in trouble and discovers
> > > > > that he's drowned. He really should have cleared the kid's airway
>
> > > > That was some bad rescue technique there. CALL FOR FREAKING HELP BEFORE
> > > > YOU
> > > > JUMP IN THE POOL WITH ALL YOUR GEAR! He's lucky they didn't have to pull
> > > > HIM
> > > > off the bottom.
>
> > > That's probably not good for your gun and bullets, and radio.
>
> > I was sure his T.O. was going to tell him to go dry off his bullets.
>
> You put them in the oven and bake them to get the water out of the
> gunpowder, right?

Microwave.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Hahahahahahahaha

[anim8rfsk]

He might be still falling to his death from the top of the Hollywood sign.

But, yeah, I like him in the bank. Maybe he's still asleep in his car,
waiting for them to open?

[suzeeq]

Maybe raw rice? That would be the safer option.

[Dimensional Traveler]

One of the terminals at every calltaker's workstation is a unit from the
phone company. If the call comes in from a landline the terminal
automatically displays the address that number is located at as well as
the name of the party paying for it. This is NOT blockable, that is
information in the phone company's databases.

If the call comes from a cell phone the console displays the lat-long
location of the cell phone, probably with the closest street address
depending on the exact location. The lat-long is calculated from the
signal travel time between the cell phone and the three nearest cell
towers and is done in the time it take to connect the call.

Either way the location is displayed immediately.

> Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time (if ever) I asked for
> Police in Phoenix, it's always Fire/Medics, so I might be talking to the
> Police and get shunted off.
>

Regarding 911 centers, there is no one single model used everywhere.
Some jurisdictions have separate PSAPs (Public Safety Answering Points)
for police, fire and/or paramedic/ambulance. In those a 911 call
usually defaults to law enforcement (police or sheriff) since almost
everywhere will send a radio car to any incident. In those set-ups they
will need to actually transfer the call.

Other jurisdictions will have one PSAP for all public safety services
with different sections manned and/or assigned by/to law, fire and
medical. Still others will simply have one PSAP where all the
calltakers and/or dispatchers handle and dispatch for all the services.
These tend to be called "Joint Dispatch Authorities" and can cover a
city, two or more cities or an entire county.

Some PSAPs will divide the responsibilities with a "calltaker" answering
the phone, taking all the information and setting up the incident in the
computer system. A "dispatcher" will then view the incident as the
calltaker fills it in and after, using that information to determine
what units are necessary and dispatching them to the incident. Other
PSAPs will combine calltaker and dispatcher so the person who is on the
phone will be dispatching units as they are taking the information.

Staffing will vary depending on the typical volume of calls. I knew of
one small city that literally had one person in a converted closet on
duty at any given time. A major city using a decent Computer-Aided
Dispatch system will typically have between half-a-dozen to two dozen
personnel on duty. Huge cities like LA or NYC will have more, probably
in multiple locations. (NYC itself was, last I knew, a special,
horrible, case as they were using a gawd-awful clutzy badly designed
home-grown computer system combined with seriously out-of-date
procedures that limited dispatchers to being able to only handle two or
three police cars each. An absolute wake up screaming nightmare of a
system. Don't have an emergency in NYC.)

The personnel themselves can be uniformed officers or firefighters
rotating thru dispatch duties, specialists in 911 dispatch (sometimes in
uniform, sometimes not) or in some few, very poor jurisdictions, just
"regular" support staff assigned to the job. Different jurisdictions
can also do a mix of the first two, with specialists on permanent 911
duty with some uniformed personnel rotating thru.

Anyone still awake out there?

--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

[anim8rfsk]

Thu, 22 Nov 2018 19:40:24 -0700 Dimensional Traveler<dtr...@sonic.net>
wrote:

That's what they were doing for Los Angeles on The Bookie.

> duty at any given time. A major city using a decent Computer-Aided
> Dispatch system will typically have between half-a-dozen to two dozen
> personnel on duty. Huge cities like LA or NYC will have more, probably
> in multiple locations. (NYC itself was, last I knew, a special,
> horrible, case as they were using a gawd-awful clutzy badly designed
> home-grown computer system combined with seriously out-of-date
> procedures that limited dispatchers to being able to only handle two or
> three police cars each. An absolute wake up screaming nightmare of a
> system. Don't have an emergency in NYC.)
>
> The personnel themselves can be uniformed officers or firefighters
> rotating thru dispatch duties, specialists in 911 dispatch (sometimes in
> uniform, sometimes not) or in some few, very poor jurisdictions, just
> "regular" support staff assigned to the job. Different jurisdictions
> can also do a mix of the first two, with specialists on permanent 911
> duty with some uniformed personnel rotating thru.
>
> Anyone still awake out there?

Heh. Thanks!

[Adam H. Kerman]

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

>Anyone still awake out there?

Thanks for providing some expertise on Usenet. I read the whole thing.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Gah. Was their tech support also a high school student on a work credit
program with the city? (That was actually the case in the real
converted closet case. It is one of the small towns in Silicon Valley
where property values are so high the town is swimming in money but
small enough they probably could have used a bullhorn as their dispatch
system. Instead they bought a high end ridiculously overpowered for
them system for their closet.)

I was never in one of the centers for Los Angeles itself. I was in one
for one of the surrounding smaller cities' police department and _they_
had half-a-dozen people on duty. I also visited the PSAP for the City
and County of San Francisco. They had a half-dozen each of fire and
police on each shift. Their center also looks like the movie set for a
NASA operations center.

Which reminds me of another TV/movie annoyance. I can't remember any
PSAP I visited ever having their people in cubicles. They were all more
open floor plan. Even the ones that were shoe-horned into rooms in the
basement. Most 911 centers aren't actually all that busy and even when
they are smart planners want to enable to personnel to be able to talk
to each other easily.

>> duty at any given time. A major city using a decent Computer-Aided
>> Dispatch system will typically have between half-a-dozen to two dozen
>> personnel on duty. Huge cities like LA or NYC will have more, probably
>> in multiple locations. (NYC itself was, last I knew, a special,
>> horrible, case as they were using a gawd-awful clutzy badly designed
>> home-grown computer system combined with seriously out-of-date
>> procedures that limited dispatchers to being able to only handle two or
>> three police cars each. An absolute wake up screaming nightmare of a
>> system. Don't have an emergency in NYC.)
>>
>> The personnel themselves can be uniformed officers or firefighters
>> rotating thru dispatch duties, specialists in 911 dispatch (sometimes in
>> uniform, sometimes not) or in some few, very poor jurisdictions, just
>> "regular" support staff assigned to the job. Different jurisdictions
>> can also do a mix of the first two, with specialists on permanent 911
>> duty with some uniformed personnel rotating thru.
>>
>> Anyone still awake out there?
>
> Heh. Thanks!
>

Thanks for reading all of my rant.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Thank you.

[anim8rfsk]

Fri, 23 Nov 2018 12:14:49 -0700 Dimensional Traveler<dtr...@sonic.net>

LOL, we never actually saw what the second person was doing; might have been
tech support. :)

Thanks for ranting!