Question about idiot "where..." threads
erilar
"rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
why do so many people keep replying to it?
("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
humans)
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
Smokie Darling (Annie)
I think what happens is one person replies to it, then others reply to
the responder (rather than the OP). We end up chatting about a
multitude of things, most of which don't include what it posted about
to begin with. Or, in one case, I have written to two people, who
appeared not to *know* it, explaining that it doesn't listen. Its
channel doesn't show reruns apparently (and it seems not to know how
to change the channel to watch something else).
Horace LaBadie
erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
> "rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
> why do so many people keep replying to it?
>
> ("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
> humans)
Because it feels so good when they stop.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
wrote:
> In article <drache-ADFC95.14555831122...@nothing.attdns.com>,
<touching wood> no one has answered his most recent (this morning)
"where is..." post...
suzee
wrote:
Agree, sometimes it's more fun to reply to each other instead of the
OP. He's supposed to have killfiled everyone anyway, and his latest on
Fringe doesn't have any replies yet. So maybe he'll end up talking to
himself yet...
Michael Black
Okay, I want answer if nobody else answers. A new year's resolution.
But, if he keeps it up after a reasonable amount of time, I may not
stick with the resolution.
I have no idea yet what a reasonable amount of time is, certainly weeks.
Michael
Smokie Darling (Annie)
It's always more fun to chat with each other, he's pretty pedantic
when he does respond to people. I never knew that being killfiled
could be so much fun. I always thought it was supposed to be a
"punishment" of a sort.
It was Fringe, FlashForward, and CSI in the most recent (so far)
ignored post. How would he know if anyone responded anyway (you know,
with all us people being KFd)?
Richard Mason
>OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
>"rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
>why do so many people keep replying to it?
>
>("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
>humans)
It's as if they've never heard of "Don't feed the trolls." Every
reply to it only serves to feed its ego. How quickly its posts would
die out if only everyone ignored them.
Richard M.
Barry Margolin
<919b6ed1-a6b0-4e94...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Oops, I just replied to the Tartarus thread.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
Ubiquitous
>OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
>"rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special",
>but why do so many people keep replying to it?
>
>("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
>humans)
Until recently, he was a webTV user.
--
webTV: The Internet short bus since 1996.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> In article
> <919b6ed1-a6b0-4e94-aa09-0e783b724...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 31, 2:00 pm, Horace LaBadie <hwlabadi...@nospam.highstream.net>
> > wrote:
> > > In article <drache-ADFC95.14555831122...@nothing.attdns.com>,
>
> > > erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > > > OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
> > > > "rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
> > > > why do so many people keep replying to it?
>
> > > > ("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
> > > > humans)
>
> > > Because it feels so good when they stop.
>
> > <touching wood> no one has answered his most recent (this morning)
> > "where is..." post...
>
> Oops, I just replied to the Tartarus thread.
That's alright. Better it was you than one of those "don't feed the
troll" types.
Extravagan
Ah. More insults I see, in a whole new flame-thread started by troll
erilar to stir things up. It wouldn't have worked, since I have erilar
killfiled, if you hadn't quoted the moron -- and always assuming no-one
else fed that troll.
Steve Newport
With your broken keyboard and inability to use spell-check, you have to
play some card, eh?
Dano
"Steve Newport" <birdp...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15063-4B3...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net...
Everyone needs to feel superior to SOMEONE after all.
Adam H. Kerman
Amazing how those who post "troll alert" messages don't get that they,
too, are troll feeding.
Adam H. Kerman
>Horace LaBadie wrote:
>>erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>>OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
>>>"rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
>>>why do so many people keep replying to it?
>>>("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
>>>humans)
>>Because it feels so good when they stop.
>Ah. More insults I see, in a whole new flame-thread started by troll
>erilar to stir things up. It wouldn't have worked, since I have erilar
>killfiled, if you hadn't quoted the moron -- and always assuming no-one
>else fed that troll.
How can you see insults? You have EVERYBODY kill filed.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Apparently, Horace LaBadie isn't KF'd. Give him a day or two, and
*he'll* be KF'd along with everyone else.
David Johnston
<extra...@frogsoup.xelon.com> wrote:
>Horace LaBadie wrote:
>> In article <drache-ADFC95....@nothing.attdns.com>,
>> erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
>>> "rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
>>> why do so many people keep replying to it?
>>>
>>> ("it" as opposed to "him/her" because the latter would imply thinking
>>> humans)
>>
>> Because it feels so good when they stop.
>
>Ah. More insults I see, in a whole new flame-thread started by troll
>erilar to stir things up. It wouldn't have worked, since I have erilar
>killfiled,
Since your "killfiles" don't do anything, there's no reason to think
that. After all, you killfiled me and still read and respond to me.
Mac Breck
The trouble is when somebody else quotes him, and when we see the quote.
Don't quote him; just let him talk to the empty room.
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) - "War Zone"
Galen (to Gideon): "I've been penalized before for helping other
people. I've been trying to decide whether or not I should risk it
again."
clouddreamer
And change the name of his thread to something else to continue chatting...
;]
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Horace LaBadie
<1a6feda3-6cf9-49e0...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
One can only hope.
Stan Brown
<dra...@chibardun.net.invalid>:
> OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
> "rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
> why do so many people keep replying to it?
Because they're idiots too.
There is never a good reason to post a follow-up to a troll's
article, and it's obvious to everyone by now that that idiot *is* a
troll.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You may be the Universe's butt puppet, but I'm its right-
hand fist of fate." -- /Wonderfalls/
Extravagan
> Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:55:58 -0600 from erilar
> <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid>:
>> OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
>> "rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
>> why do so many people keep replying to it?
>
>
> a troll
> that idiot
> a troll
*PLONK*
(Above edited to preserve only the parts that prompt the response.)
Smokie Darling (Annie)
wrote:
> In article
> <1a6feda3-6cf9-49e0-aa23-9f02643f4...@j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
bwahaha... I knew there was something I liked about you <BG>
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Mac Breck wrote:
> > The trouble is when somebody else quotes him, and when we see the quote.
> > Don't quote him; just let him talk to the empty room.
>
> And change the name of his thread to something else to continue chatting...
>
> ;]
...and get reamed for changing the subject line? I'd rather not...
Once was enough. There is one group where a change of subject means
changing the subject line (i.e., thread drift). In here (and ratsf or
whatever it is) I get "spoken to" because changing the subject screws
up someone else's newsreader threading or something...
I do admit that I forget to snip though. Need to work on that.
John McWilliams
> ...and get reamed for changing the subject line? I'd rather not...
> Once was enough. There is one group where a change of subject means
> changing the subject line (i.e., thread drift). In here (and ratsf or
> whatever it is) I get "spoken to" because changing the subject screws
> up someone else's newsreader threading or something...
If some one's newsreader doesn't do proper threading, screw 'em.
Changing the Subject will mess with someone reading alphabetically, but
not threaded. A few need a clue; most don't.
--
John McWilliams
Wishing all a ten for '10.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
I believe what was said was... (paraphrasing) Changing the subject
line moves the message to a new thread and I don't see your response
(honestly, we both said the exact same thing, but I said it about 2
hours earlier, and I think he was upset by that). That messed up the
thread and proper netiquette does not allow for subject changing, if
you want a new subject start a new thread (and I usually change the
subject line exactly as you have, so the older one is still there).
He kept insisting that I was wrong to change the subject, and I
stopped arguing about it.
Ubiquitous
>From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
>Until recently, he was a webTV user.
>--
>webTV: The Internet short bus since 1996.
>-------------------------------------
>With your broken keyboard and inability to use spell-check, you have to
>play some card, eh?
"Spelling" "flame" noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument
to make.
--
It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the Democrats did
to America.
Ubiquitous
>He-Who-Cannot-Properly-Format-A-Followup brayed
>> With your broken keyboard and inability to use spell-check, you have
>> to play some card, eh?
>
>Everyone needs to feel superior to SOMEONE after all.
Now you be nice to He-Who-Cannot-Properly-Format-A-Followup; It's
not his fault he lacks the intellectual firepower to operate a webTV
box or engage in logical and coherent thought. Not that there's anything
wrong with it. Someone has to make the fries and direct musical theatre.
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.
Steve Newport
So that's what you do?
Adam H. Kerman
>> ;]
That's another type of complaint you need to learn to ignore. Yes, change
Subject to reflect thread drift, but not in Seamus threads which are
entirely pointless and off topic.
Recently, we were discussing changing Subject. Someone complained that this
broke threading in his newsreader, but it turned out that he had chosen to
order messages by Subject versus thread. He changed the setting, and change
of Subject no longer broke threading. Sometimes users aren't familiar with
all of their newsreader's basic featuers.
>I do admit that I forget to snip though. Need to work on that.
You really need to subscribe to an actual News server and stop posting
through horrid Google Groups.
Adam H. Kerman
Threading is performed with information in the References header, not the
Subject header. Some people don't understand basic newsreading concepts.
Adam H. Kerman
>>idiots
>*PLONK*
Hahahahahaha
Seamus plonks Stan. Note how Seamus follows up only to those he's claimed
to have plonked, so Stan will become one of his favorites now.
Ubiquitous
>From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
>Now you be nice to He-Who-Cannot-Properly-Format-A-Followup; It's
>not his fault he lacks the intellectual firepower to operate a webTV
>box or engage in logical and coherent thought. Not that there's
>anything wrong with it. Someone has to make the fries and direct
>musical theatre.
>-------------------------------------
>So that's what you do?
QED.
--
Learn how to quote!
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Smokie Darling (Annie) <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >I believe what was said was... (paraphrasing) Changing the subject
> >line moves the message to a new thread and I don't see your response
> >(honestly, we both said the exact same thing, but I said it about 2
> >hours earlier, and I think he was upset by that). That messed up the
> >thread and proper netiquette does not allow for subject changing, if
> >you want a new subject start a new thread (and I usually change the
> >subject line exactly as you have, so the older one is still there).
> >He kept insisting that I was wrong to change the subject, and I
> >stopped arguing about it.
>
> Threading is performed with information in the References header, not the
> Subject header. Some people don't understand basic newsreading concepts.
I'm just telling you what he told me. I have no idea which reader he
uses (obviously it wasn't Google). Some usenet providers apparently,
take a subject line change as a "new" thread and take it out of the
original one (since that's all I did, was change the subject line).
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Smokie Darling (Annie) <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >...and get reamed for changing the subject line? I'd rather not...
> >Once was enough. There is one group where a change of subject means
> >changing the subject line (i.e., thread drift). In here (and ratsf or
> >whatever it is) I get "spoken to" because changing the subject screws
> >up someone else's newsreader threading or something...
>
> That's another type of complaint you need to learn to ignore. Yes, change
> Subject to reflect thread drift, but not in Seamus threads which are
> entirely pointless and off topic.
>
> Recently, we were discussing changing Subject. Someone complained that this
> broke threading in his newsreader, but it turned out that he had chosen to
> order messages by Subject versus thread. He changed the setting, and change
> of Subject no longer broke threading. Sometimes users aren't familiar with
> all of their newsreader's basic featuers.
>
> >I do admit that I forget to snip though. Need to work on that.
>
> You really need to subscribe to an actual News server and stop posting
> through horrid Google Groups.
We are looking into Agent currently, and when I get that, then I'll be
looking into a newsfeed (possibly even using Agent's). I've been
using Google for nearly 6 years, and have only recently decided that
it was *completely* awful.
Rob Jensen
<dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>OK, so there's an idiot out there who doesn't understand the concept
>"rerun", much less the replacement of a show by some lame "special", but
>why do so many people keep replying to it?
Because he's so over-the-top that these threads are clearly a running
joke.
-- Rob
Adam H. Kerman
>>Smokie Darling (Annie) <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>I believe what was said was... �(paraphrasing) Changing the subject
>>>line moves the message to a new thread and I don't see your response
>>>(honestly, we both said the exact same thing, but I said it about 2
>>>hours earlier, and I think he was upset by that). �That messed up the
>>>thread and proper netiquette does not allow for subject changing, if
>>>you want a new subject start a new thread (and I usually change the
>>>subject line exactly as you have, so the older one is still there).
>>>He kept insisting that I was wrong to change the subject, and I
>>>stopped arguing about it.
>>Threading is performed with information in the References header, not the
>>Subject header. Some people don't understand basic newsreading concepts.
>I'm just telling you what he told me. . . .
I believe you. I was just offering you the explanation of why you're right
and he's wrong.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Oops, my mistake. So, you believe that he is "threading" by subject
rather than by "headers"? I wonder if that was the same guy who got
upset with me... Anyway, thanks for explaining it to me <smile>.
David Johnston
>>>>I believe what was said was... �(paraphrasing) Changing the subject
>>>>line moves the message to a new thread and I don't see your response
>>>>(honestly, we both said the exact same thing, but I said it about 2
>>>>hours earlier, and I think he was upset by that). �That messed up the
>>>>thread and proper netiquette does not allow for subject changing, if
>>>>you want a new subject start a new thread (and I usually change the
>>>>subject line exactly as you have, so the older one is still there).
>>>>He kept insisting that I was wrong to change the subject, and I
>>>>stopped arguing about it.
>
>>>Threading is performed with information in the References header, not the
>>>Subject header. Some people don't understand basic newsreading concepts.
>
What difference does that make to the person who has a newsreader that
doesn't obey that rule?
Paul
news:v2cvj51j6inu3png8...@4ax.com:
>>>>Threading is performed with information in the References
>>>>header, not the Subject header. Some people don't understand
>>>>basic newsreading concepts.
>>
>
> What difference does that make to the person who has a newsreader
> that doesn't obey that rule?
Apparently none.
--
Paul
Adam H. Kerman
Then the user doesn't see the articles in the newsgroup presented in
a thread tree. That's not a threading newsreader.
David Johnston
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
So what's the term for a series of successive articles for such a
newsreader?
Barry Margolin
John McWilliams <jp...@comcast.net> wrote:
My newsreader lets you select, on a group-by-group (with per-hierarchy
defaults), whether to thread by subject or references.
Unfortunately, both ways have problems. Threading by references breaks
when people reply with newsreaders that don't fill in references
properly. And threading by subject gets lost when someone changes the
subject.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
Barry Margolin
<b95dfe4a-7467-4950...@c34g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnab...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Usenet *providers* don't have anthing to do with it. Organizing
messages is done by the newsreader, not the provider.
Adam H. Kerman
Coincidence.
Steve Newport
-------------------------------------
Like Ubi and his troll-o-meter.
David Johnston
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
It isn't coincidental.
Adam H. Kerman
>>Coincidence.
>It isn't coincidental.
Yes, dude, it would be coincidental. If a newsreader cannot use the
References header, but for whatever reason presents messages in the same
order as would be presented by a threading newsreader, it's coincidence
It merely has to do with the thread trees lacking multiple branches
and multiple Subjects.
If the thread tree has multiple branches or multiple Subjects, then it
would be so unlikely that the articles would be presented in the same order
threaded or unthreaded to be coincidental.
David Johnston
<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
No, it isn't coincidence that the responses to the same subject are
grouped together sequentially. What's the word for that grouping?
Adam H. Kerman
>>>>Coincidence.
>>>It isn't coincidental.
Sequentially by date? By article number (order in which it was added to
the server)?
Sequentially isn't threading. You obviously don't have a threading newsreader
and have no actual idea what threading is. Why don't you obtain one, then
experience it for yourself? Until you do, you don't have an informed opinion.
Steve Newport
References header, but for whatever reason presents messages in the same
order as would be presented by a threading newsreader, it's coincidence
It merely has to do with the thread trees lacking multiple branches and
multiple Subjects. If the thread tree has multiple branches or multiple
Subjects, then it would be so unlikely that the articles would be
presented in the same order threaded or unthreaded to be coincidental.
You'd be better off with Google or Web TV.
Steve Newport
newsreader and have no actual idea what threading is. Why don't you
obtain one, then experience it for yourself?
Why don't you shut the fuck up and get easier to use equipment?