RATTY AWARDS: 2004-05 Nominations List & Final Ballot
Joshua Kreitzer
This posting includes the final ballot for the 2004-2005 Ratty Awards
from the rec.arts.tv newsgroup as compiled by Robert Licuria.
Here's this year's analysis of the nominations:
There were 21 voters in the nominations round this year, down slightly
from 22 last year.
Among series, Arrested Development had a big jump in nominations, from
9 last year to 17 this year, making it the most nominated series of all
this year. Fox retained the lead among all networks in terms of
nominations, with 38.
Welcome to the party: Lost led all new series with 15 nominations.
Other new series which garnered Best Series nominations included
Veronica Mars, Desperate Housewives, The 4400, and the revived
Battlestar Galactica (which premiered as a miniseries last season, then
became a regular series in this season).
We'll miss you: Everybody Loves Raymond, with 8 nominations, was the
most-nominated series to end its run this season.
On the cusp: Shows which received significant numbers of nominating
votes without garnering any actual nominations included NYPD Blue,
Entourage and Smallville. Everwood and Jack and Bobby, although
nominated in a few categories, came close in several other categories.
Genre switch: Alias, which competed in the drama categories in its
first three seasons, is nominated as a SF series this year based on its
classification by the majority of its nominators. The Daily Show with
Jon Stewart returns to the variety categories this year, where it had
competed in the past, after winning Best News/Talk/Documentary Program
last year.
Multiple nominations tally:
The Best:
17: Arrested Development (up 8)
15: Lost
11: Veronica Mars
10: Alias (up 3)
9: 24 (even); Battlestar Galactica (up 8 from last year, when it was a
miniseries); Desperate Housewives
8: Everybody Loves Raymond (up 3)
7: Deadwood (up 7); Gilmore Girls (down 4)
6: House; Scrubs (up 2); The Shield (up 3)
5: Star Trek: Enterprise (even)
4: Everwood (up 1)
3: Saturday Night Live (up 2)
2: Carnivàle (up 2); The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (up 1); The Dead
Zone (down 2); Jack and Bobby; Late Night with Conan O'Brien (even);
Late Show with David Letterman (even); Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit (even); Medium.
The Worst:
2: The Apprentice (up 2); The Simple Life (even); Yes, Dear (up 1).
Network tally:
The Best:
Fox 38 (down 5) * ABC 36 (up 27) * CBS 18 (down 8) * NBC 18 (up 1) *
UPN 17 (up 12) * WB 13 (down 16) * HBO 11 (down 4) * Sci-Fi 10 (up 9) *
FX 6 (up 3) * Comedy Central 3 (down 1) * USA 3 (down 6) * Showtime 2
(down 4) * Syndication 2 (down 1) * and with 1 each: BBC America (up
1), Disney (down 1), and PBS (down 3).
The Worst:
Fox 4 (up 1) * NBC 3 (down 1) * CBS 2 (even) * WB 1 (up 1).
The following are the rules for this second stage of voting:
* Anyone reading this posting is eligible to vote, whether or not you
voted in the first round.
* In each category, delete the four nominees you don't want to vote
for, leaving your one single vote in each category.
* You don't have to vote in every category, but please try to vote in
as many categories as you can. If you are skipping a category, please
delete all of the nominees in that category.
* Please try to keep spacing between each category to a minimum. All I
should see is the category title, next line your vote, a space, and
then the next category. This will help keep your ballot short.
* The deadline to submit votes is Sunday, July 10, at 10:00 p.m. (U.S.
Pacific time).
* Please send your ballot directly to me at grom...@hotmail.com.
Unlike in the nominations round, I will be compiling these ballots
myself, so you can respond directly to this message. You can also post
your votes to the newsgroup if you want, but all ballots must be
e-mailed to me to be counted.
* The ballot is being posted to the rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, and
rec.arts.animation newsgroups. It will also be posted to
GoldDerby.com, a web site about entertainment awards for which Rob
Licuria is a senior editor. You may encourage people to vote in the
Rattys on your own web site or blog or on other television-related
newsgroups, if you do so with good netiquette, but please don't post
the ballot anywhere else. Just tell people they can find the ballot at
the rec.arts.tv newsgroup.
* In the final results posting, I will post the percentages received by
all nominees if I receive ballots from more than 100 voters.
* Thanks to everyone who voted. Now it's time to pick your winners.
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BEST SERIES
24 (Fox)
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SERIES
24 (Fox)
Deadwood (HBO)
House (Fox)
The Shield (FX)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
Ian McShane as Al Swearengen - Deadwood (HBO)
Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer - 24 (Fox)
James Spader as Alan Shore - Boston Legal (ABC)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(NBC)
Christine Lahti as Grace McCallister - Jack & Bobby (WB)
Molly Parker as Alma Garret - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tom Amandes as Harold Abbott - Everwood (WB)
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Brad Dourif as Doc Cochran - Deadwood (HBO)
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
William Sanderson as E.B. Farnum - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
Paula Malcomson as Trixie - Deadwood (HBO)
CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
Emily VanCamp as Amy Abbott - Everwood (WB)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Jimmy McCallister - Jack & Bobby, recurring (WB)
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
James Earl Jones as Will Cleveland - Everwood, "The Tipping Point"
(WB)
Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Amanda Seyfried as Lilly Kane - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
John McNamara - Eyes, "Pilot" (ABC)
David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
Rob Thomas - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
Guy Ferland - The Shield, "Tar Baby" (FX)
Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Will Arnett as GOB Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
Ray Romano as Ray Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper - Two and a Half Men (CBS)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lauren Graham as Lorelai Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael Cera as George-Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
David Cross as Tobias Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Tony Hale as Buster Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Debra Jo Rupp as Kitty Forman - That '70s Show (Fox)
Alia Shawkat as Maeby Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jessica Walter as Lucille Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
Chris Elliott as Peter McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Ben Stiller as Tony Wonder - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Fred Willard as Hank McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Henry Winkler as Barry Zuckerkorn - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Georgia Engel as Pat McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Judy Greer as Kitty Sanchez - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
(ABC)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Maggie Lizer - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY WRITING
Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Mitchell Hurwitz & Chuck Martin - Arrested Development, "My Hand to
God" (Fox)
John Levenstein - Arrested Development, "Good Grief" (Fox)
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
Philip Rosenthal, Ray Romano, Tucker Cawley, Lew Schneider, Steve
Skrovan, Jeremy Stevens, Mike Royce, Aaron Shure, Tom Caltabiano &
Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
Peter Lauer - Arrested Development, "Sad Sack" (Fox)
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Amy Sherman-Palladino - Gilmore Girls, "Wedding Bell Blues" (WB)
SF SERIES
The 4400 (USA)
Alias (ABC)
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Lost (ABC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Clancy Brown as Brother Justin Crowe - Carnivàle (HBO)
Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
Anthony Michael Hall as Johnny Smith - The Dead Zone (USA)
Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Jolene Blalock as Subcmdr. T'Pol - Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Amber Tamblyn as Joan Girardi - Joan of Arcadia (CBS)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Josh Holloway as Sawyer - Lost (ABC)
Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane - Alias (ABC)
Jake Weber as Joe Dubois - Medium (NBC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
Tricia Helfer as Number Six - Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
Richard Hatch as Tom Zarek - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Arliss Howard as Kenneth Push - Medium, recurring (NBC)
William Mapother as Ethan - Lost, recurring (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Claudia Black as Vara Malduran - Stargate SG-1, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
L. Scott Caldwell as Rose - Lost, recurring (ABC)
Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Richard Haetm - Tru Calling, "Last Good Day" (Fox)
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Mike Sussman - Star Trek: Enterprise, "In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1"
(UPN)
SF DIRECTING
J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
Ken Olin - Alias, "Authorized Personnel Only, Part 1" (ABC)
Michael Rymer - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Scott Winant - Carnivàle, "New Canaan, CA" (HBO)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Lackawanna Blues (HBO)
The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (HBO)
The Magic of Ordinary Days (CBS)
The Office Special (BBC America)
Reefer Madness (Showtime)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Mad TV (Fox)
Saturday Night Live (NBC)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Conan O'Brien - Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Maya Rudolph - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
America's Next Top Model (UPN)
Big Brother (CBS)
Jeopardy! (syndicated)
Survivor (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
60 Minutes (CBS)
Ebert & Roeper (syndicated)
Frontline (PBS)
Meet the Press (NBC)
The Seinfeld Story (NBC)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
Kim Possible (Disney)
King of the Hill (Fox)
The Simpsons (Fox)
South Park (Comedy Central)
BEST NEW SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
House (Fox)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
24 (Fox)
Alias (ABC)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
7th Heaven (WB)
American Idol (Fox)
The Apprentice (NBC)
The Simple Life (Fox)
Yes, Dear (CBS)
WORST PERFORMER
Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
Paris Hilton as herself - The Simple Life (Fox)
Mike O'Malley as Jimmy Hughes - Yes, Dear (CBS)
Ashlee Simpson as herself - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Donald Trump as himself - The Apprentice (NBC)
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BEST SERIES
Lost (ABC)
- Held my interest like no other show this year.
DRAMA SERIES
House (Fox)
- Another series that grabbed my interest -- once I found it. Blame Fox.
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
- House lives or dies based on how Laurie plays the role.
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Christine Lahti as Grace McCallister - Jack & Bobby (WB)
- I know it won't win but I liked the show and though she was the most
interesting character on it.
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
No Vote (haven't seen any of the nominated shows)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
- Top notch performance, so ordinary on the outside and so passionate and
multi-layered on the inside.
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
- Not really fair since Haysbert was running with a character he was
eminently comfortable with but he was great at it.
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
- Deliciously devious.
DRAMA WRITING
David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
- Does a brilliant job of interweaving the stories and knows the character
of House so well that his telling the stories is unique.
DRAMA DIRECTING
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
- I know it's Tarantino and has some excesses (some?) but he does use the
concept and the medium well.
COMEDY SERIES
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
- I really love the show, and I don't normally say that about comedies.
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
No Vote
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
- I suspect Hatcher will win, and she's very good at the slapstick stuff,
but Huffman's harried, insecure stay-at-home mom is tremendously funny.
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
No Vote
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
No Vote
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
No Vote
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
No Vote
COMEDY WRITING
Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
- The pilot of "Desperate Housewives" succeeds in grabbing the viewer from
the start.
SF SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
- Good nominees, but Battlestar Galactica gets my vote because they took the
hoary old space opera concept of the original series and made it a character
driven series rather than an effects series.
SF LEAD ACTOR
Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
- Adama is the consumate military man, a total difference from Lorne
Greene's patriarchical version of the character.
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
- Kate is the stand-out female character in this series and of the nominees
seems to me to be the best developed character.
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
- Locke is the mystical heart of Lost and casting the always impressive
O'Quinn was brilliant.
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
- Only because Grace Park wasn't nominated as "Boomer". Park had the more
complex role but Sackhoff had the showier part.
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
- Shran was always the most interesting of the recurring characters, but the
change in writing teams and show-runner gave the character additional depth.
SF GUEST ACTRESS
No Vote
SF WRITING
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
- Great episode, Locke's journey into his own private darkness, hope and
tragedy combine.
SF DIRECTING
Michael Rymer - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
- Rymer builds the tension beautifully and we really start to see Baltar's
growing madness.
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
No Vote
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
No Vote
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
No Vote
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
- The Rolls Royce amongst a fleet of Yugos (and one Cadillac in "Jeopardy"
and maybe "Survivor") TAR 7 added Rob & Amber and despite the fear of fans
they were great.
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
60 Minutes (CBS)
- The best of the bunch.
ANIMATED PROGRAM
No Vote
BEST NEW SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
- This was a very good year, but I just loved Battlestar Galactica because
of the way they handled the concept. It could have just been an effects
show, but they were wise enough to make it a show about people who just
happen to be in space.
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
- They cut the budget, they moved it to the second worst night on TV
(because UPN don't broadcast on Saturdays) and it was still better than most
of the first three season. Paramount should have learned from comparing DS9
to Voyager that getting rid of Berman & Braga would improve the shows, but
studio bosses aren't interested in quality or change.
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
The Simple Life (Fox)
- Because I can't vote for that Mark Cuban travesty.
WORST PERFORMER
No Vote
--
Brent McKee
"If we cease to judge this world, we may find ourselves, very quickly,
in one which is infinitely worse."
- Margaret Atwood
"Nothing is more dangerous than a dogmatic worldview - nothing more
constraining, more blinding to innovation, more destructive of
openness to novelty. "
- Stephen Jay Gould (1941-2002)
Lisa Coulter
> 11th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
> Reminder: send to grom...@hotmail.com
>
> BEST SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
> DRAMA SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
> DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
> Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer - 24 (Fox)
> DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
> Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
> DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
> Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
> DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
> Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
> DRAMA WRITING
> David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
> DRAMA DIRECTING
> John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
> COMEDY SERIES
> Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> Ray Romano as Ray Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
> COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
> Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
> Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
> (ABC)
> COMEDY WRITING
> Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
> COMEDY DIRECTING
> Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
)
> SF SERIES
> Lost (ABC)
> SF LEAD ACTOR
> Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
> SF LEAD ACTRESS
> Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
> SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
> SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
> SF GUEST ACTOR
> Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
> SF GUEST ACTRESS
> Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
> SF WRITING
> Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
> SF DIRECTING
> Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
> VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
> PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
> REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
> The Amazing Race (CBS)
> BEST NEW SERIES
> Lost (ABC)
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> Alias (ABC)
> WORST SERIES
> The Simple Life (Fox)
> WORST PERFORMER
> Paris Hilton as herself - The Simple Life (Fox)
chicagofan
> House (Fox)
>
> DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
> Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
>
> Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
>
> Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
>
> Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
>
> Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
>
> Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
>
> DRAMA WRITING
>
> John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
>
> Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
>
> COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> Ray Romano as Ray Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
>
> Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>
> Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
>
> Jessica Walter as Lucille Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
> Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
> (ABC)
>
> Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
>
> COMEDY DIRECTING
>
>
> TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> n/a
>
> VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
>
> Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
>
> REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
>
> NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
>
> ANIMATED PROGRAM
> South Park (Comedy Central)
>
> BEST NEW SERIES
>
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> n/a
>
> "The Worst":
>
> WORST SERIES
> The Apprentice (NBC)
>
> WORST PERFORMER
David
On 22 Jun 2005 22:56:26 -0700, "Joshua Kreitzer"
<grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>*** 11TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
>Genre switch: Alias, which competed in the drama categories in its
>first three seasons, is nominated as a SF series this year based on its
>classification by the majority of its nominators.
#$!&$#
I bet people only nominated it as sci-fi to get around the six
nominees per category limit.
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>11th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
>Reminder: send to grom...@hotmail.com
>
>BEST SERIES
>Arrested Development (Fox)
AD trumps over all in every category it qualifies. Sorry to ruin the
suspense.
>DRAMA SERIES
>House (Fox)
No "Lost" or "Housewives" (which I better not find in comedy,
#%$!*&#)? Have to go with "House" for being consistently stronger than
"Veronica Mars."
>DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
>Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
Tough choice between Laurie and Spader but Laurie had stronger
material.
>DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
>DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
>DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
>DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
Should he qualify as "guest actor"? He was the star for 6 episodes and
John Ritter won best actor for half that.
>DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
>Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Very underwhelming category. Aside from Kristen Bell this hasn't been
a good year for females in drama. I had a tough time coming up with
nominees.
>DRAMA WRITING
>David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
Tough choice between "House" and "Veronica Mars" but the "Mars" pilot
was tough to watch as one bad thing after another happened, and this
was the "House" episode that put it over the top on the A-list.
>DRAMA DIRECTING
>Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
>COMEDY SERIES
>Arrested Development (Fox)
Nothing to see here. "Arrested" in a sweep.
>COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
>Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
>COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
>Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
>David Cross as Tobias Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
>COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Alia Shawkat as Maeby Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
>COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
>Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
Okay, near-sweep.
>COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
>Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Maggie Lizer - Arrested Development, recurring
>(Fox)
>COMEDY WRITING
>John Levenstein - Arrested Development, "Good Grief" (Fox)
>COMEDY DIRECTING
>Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
>SF SERIES
>Lost (ABC)
Oh come on, "Lost" in sci-fi? You people suck.
>SF LEAD ACTOR
>Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
By default since I don't watch much sci-fi.
>SF LEAD ACTRESS
>Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Again, by default, and for being better than Evangeline Lilly.
>SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Now that's a loaded category but "Lost" will outlive "Alias" so Terry
O'Quinn will have his chances.
>SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
>SF GUEST ACTOR
>Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
>SF GUEST ACTRESS
>Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
This is probably wrong, I just think Bowen's cute plus it's a weak
category.
>SF WRITING
>J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
>SF DIRECTING
>J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
A pilot all dramas should try to live up to.
>TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
>The Office Special (BBC America)
Forgot that this qualified. Good finale that gave the characters a
nice sendoff.
>VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
>PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
>NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
>The Seinfeld Story (NBC)
>ANIMATED PROGRAM
>The Simpsons (Fox)
>BEST NEW SERIES
>Lost (ABC)
>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>Scrubs (NBC)
I rewatched the first 3 seasons and season 4 was definitely more
solid.
>"The Worst":
"Yes, Dear" is good and I didn't watch the rest so I'm abstaining.
David
wrote:
>> COMEDY SERIES
>> Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>> COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
>> Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>> COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
>> Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
>> (ABC)
>> COMEDY WRITING
>> Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
This is what I'm scared of seeing at the Emmies. Not that "Housewives"
doesn't deserve to win but as the hot new show I can see it sweeping
the comedy category, and "Arrested Development" really could use some
wins to help avoid cancellation. So even though I think of it as a
black comedy I'm hoping the Emmies put it in drama.
Chloe O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball
"Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> *** 11TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
And now is my time to whine.
> BEST SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
> Arrested Development (Fox)
> Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> Lost (ABC)
> Veronica Mars (UPN)
I nom-voted for 3 of these (and have no objection to VM). Of these, I
think "24" is going down as My #1 Show of the Year. So it'll get my
vote.
> DRAMA SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
> Deadwood (HBO)
> House (Fox)
> The Shield (FX)
> Veronica Mars (UPN)
It is very unfortunate that "Lost" was ghettoized into Sci-Fi where it
does not belong. (At least with "Desperate Housewives", you can make a
good case that's comedy. I don't think you can do that with "Lost" and
Sci-Fi...)
Again, I nom-voted for 3 of these, and again "24" leads the pack.
("House" looks to be my #4 show of the year.)
> DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
> Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
> Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer - 24 (Fox)
Only nom-voted for these two. Laurie plays the more complex character,
so...
> DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
> Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
This is easy - Bell is the only one I nom-voted for who made it (into
this category - several of my nom-votes here ended up elsewhere...)
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Tom Amandes as Harold Abbott - Everwood (WB)
> Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Colantoni is the only one I nom-voted for here, though I've seen
Amandes. I've voted for Amandes in the past (IIRC), so Colantoni gets
the nod this year.
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
> Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
> Emily VanCamp as Amy Abbott - Everwood (WB)
Nom-voted for the two "24's", and have seen VanCamp. The latter was
probably stronger last year, in season #2. But it's moot - I planned to
vote for Rajskub from the git-go! (Go Chloe!!!)
> DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
> Tom Cavanagh as Jimmy McCallister - Jack & Bobby, recurring (WB)
> Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
> Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
> James Earl Jones as Will Cleveland - Everwood, "The Tipping Point"
> (WB)
> Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
> Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
A category where I saw all 5 nominees (though I voted for none - Hamlin
just missed getting my nom-vote). So I guess Hamlin will get my vote.
(My, my! My ballot is more dominated by VM than I would have expected!)
> DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
> Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
> Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
> Amanda Seyfried as Lilly Kane - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
> Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
> Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
I saw all of these as well, though I only nom-voted for Seyfried. It's a
shame that Michelle Horn didn't make it for "Without a Trace".
Even though I nom-voted for Seyfried, I actually think I'm going to vote
for Ward here.
> DRAMA WRITING
> John McNamara - Eyes, "Pilot" (ABC)
> Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
> David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
> Rob Thomas - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
My only nom-vote was for VM's "Pilot". As an establishing episode, it
was probably the best one of any of the new series. And while "Three
Stories" was impressive, it was a little more overdone than it needed to
be. So let's go with - Veronica Mars, "Pilot"
> DRAMA DIRECTING
> Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
> John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
> Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
> Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
> (CBS)
That overwrought Tarantino mess made it in here?!
For directing, it's much easier to make a case for "3 Stories". And I
wasn't overly impressed with "24's" finale. Let's go with - Paris
Barclay - House, "Three Stories".
> COMEDY SERIES
> Arrested Development (Fox)
> Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
> Gilmore Girls (WB)
> Scrubs (NBC)
David's fears came to pass. And with DH in here, it'll make my voting
significantly easier....
> COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper - Two and a Half Men (CBS)
>
> COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
> Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
> Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> Lauren Graham as Lorelai Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
> Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
It's too bad Eva Longoria was shut out - she's the underappreciated part
of DH.
I'm almost tempted to vote for Bledel here, but the thing is she
excelled in the *drama* part of GG this season. So, let's go with who I
intended to vote for all along - Teri Hatcher.
> COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
It amazes me that, yet again, no one seems to figure out that Angus T.
Jones is the *KEY* factor that makes "Two and a Half Men" *work*.
<sigh>
> COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
NO VOTE.
> COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
NO VOTE.
> COMEDY WRITING
> Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
This is no contest.
> COMEDY DIRECTING
> Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Ditto.
> SF SERIES
> The 4400 (USA)
> Alias (ABC)
> Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
> Lost (ABC)
> Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
OK, WHO are the *IDIOTS* who put "The 4400" in here over "The Dead
Zone"?!?!! (And I mean "idiots" in the nicest way possible... Er, well,
not really.)
With "The Dead Zone" out, and "Lost" in here, there's really not much to
talk about, is there?...
> SF LEAD ACTOR
> Anthony Michael Hall as Johnny Smith - The Dead Zone (USA)
My vote.
> Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
Is this a joke? Is someone having us on? Are we being 'punk'd'??
> SF LEAD ACTRESS
> Jolene Blalock as Subcmdr. T'Pol - Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
> Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
The only race is between these two, and Lilly was the "breakout" star of
the year for me. So, duh!
> SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Josh Holloway as Sawyer - Lost (ABC)
> Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
This is tough. Really tough.
Despite the fact that I like Sawyer more as a character, what O'Quinn
did with Locke this year was nothing short of amazing. O'Quinn and Hugh
Laurie were acting rings around everyone else this season.
> SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
Most of the other nominees (save Harris) must be some kind of 'gag', so
this one's easy.
> SF GUEST ACTOR
> Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
No contest.
> SF GUEST ACTRESS
> Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
I would have preferred to see at least Maggie Lawson (for TC) in here -
had she been, she would have gotten my vote. Oh well...
> SF WRITING
> J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
> Richard Haetm - Tru Calling, "Last Good Day" (Fox)
> Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
> Mike Sussman - Star Trek: Enterprise, "In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1"
> (UPN)
OMG! "Tru Calling" actually made a category! Thank Ghu!!
And now that it has, this is a very, very difficult category. I actually
don't know who I'm going to vote for right now. It may end up being
ST:E, for the only really good episode they ever did. But any of these
may end up with my vote...
> SF DIRECTING
> Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
Again, no contest.
> TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> The Magic of Ordinary Days (CBS)
Killjoys.
NO VOTE.
The only one of these I saw was this one, and I was underimpressed. I
guess if you have any trace of comedy, you'll never make it into this
category on this froup. I guess you all like dreary, unfunny movies!
(preferably on HBO, or something)...
> VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
NO VOTE.
> PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
NO VOTE.
> REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
> The Amazing Race (CBS)
And to be very specific here, I'm voting for "The Amazing Race *5*",
*only*.
> NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
Antiquated old media still has a hold of RAT. No wonder this group has
gotten so stodgy lately.
NO VOTE.
> ANIMATED PROGRAM
NO VOTE.
> BEST NEW SERIES
> Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
> Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> House (Fox)
> Lost (ABC)
> Veronica Mars (UPN)
I nom-voted for 4 of these 6.
Of them, it comes down to "Lost" and "Desperate Housewives". Well the
former is my #3 Show of the Year. But the latter is #2.
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
> Alias (ABC)
> Gilmore Girls (WB)
> Scrubs (NBC)
> Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
I nom-voted for 3 of these. Of them, the most improved was:
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
> "The Worst":
>
> WORST SERIES
> 7th Heaven (WB)
> American Idol (Fox)
> The Apprentice (NBC)
> The Simple Life (Fox)
> Yes, Dear (CBS)
I nom-voted for 3 of these too (and YD does not belong here!). As bad as
"7th Heaven" is, I *really* hate Paris Hilton:
The Simple Life [3] (Fox)
> WORST PERFORMER
> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
> Paris Hilton as herself - The Simple Life (Fox)
> Mike O'Malley as Jimmy Hughes - Yes, Dear (CBS)
> Ashlee Simpson as herself - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
> Donald Trump as himself - The Apprentice (NBC)
I'm very disappointed that Tom Cruise didn't make it here. (And Mike
O'Malley is the best part of YD - I think some people are just
irrational about that show.)
Anyway: Paris Hilton as herself
--
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CHLOE: "I know."
- "24", 04/25/05
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William George Ferguson
On 22 Jun 2005 22:56:26 -0700, in rec.arts.sf.tv you wrote:
>*** 11TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
>*** delete everything above this line***
>11th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
>Reminder: send to grom...@hotmail.com
>
>BEST SERIES
>Veronica Mars (UPN)
Of the finalists, it's the best
>DRAMA SERIES
>Veronica Mars (UPN)
See above.
>DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
I don't watch any of those shows, so I can't judge (and didn't)
>DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
>DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
No opinion here either
>DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
Can't stand to watch 24, but the little I've seen, Chloe is a fun
character.
>DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
A very good job in several episodes
>DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
>Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
While Amanda Seyfried's Lilly was reasonably well done, and was much more
important to the show, I liked Tina Magorino's performance more.
>DRAMA WRITING
>Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
Liked it better than the pilot
>DRAMA DIRECTING
>Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
Only one of the finalists I had any interest in.
>COMEDY SERIES
>Gilmore Girls (WB)
I have actually seen some of the others in the category. I like GG best.
>COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
>Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Unlike most folks here, I'm not a big Arrested Development fan. I did
like Bateman's performance more than the others.
>COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
>Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
This vote is likely to get me pilloried on the GG newsgroup, where there
is a big push for LG getting an Emmy nom, but I've always made it clear
that I liked the Rory/Yale plots more than the Lorelai/Stars Hollow
plots.
>COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
>COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
I was actually tempted to vote for Portia di Rossi. In past years, I've
voted for Debra Jo Rupp, but her performance, like everybody else's on
that show, has gone downhill this year.
>COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Even if I was a fan of Raymond, AD, and/or Scrubs, I couldn't see myself
voting for any of these five. It's a really pitiful group when Tom
Cavanagh is the best choice.
>COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
>Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
I was tempted to vote for Georgia Engel.
>COMEDY WRITING
None of the above
>COMEDY DIRECTING
>Amy Sherman-Palladino - Gilmore Girls, "Wedding Bell Blues" (WB)
Not my 1st choice for GG in directing but still better, from my point of
view, than the other finalists
>SF SERIES
>Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
There are actual reasonable selections this year (it was debatable that
there would be last summer). I liked this one best, so there.
>SF LEAD ACTOR
>Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
>(Sci-Fi)
Really good job playing someone who is clearly the hero, but is also
clearly deeply flawed.
>SF LEAD ACTRESS
>Amber Tamblyn as Joan Girardi - Joan of Arcadia (CBS)
Over Mary McDonnell, who I thought did a great job.
>SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Not happy with any of them.
>SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
>(Sci-Fi)
Only by default, because Grace Park (who committed Grand Theft-Show)
didn't make the final ballot
>SF GUEST ACTOR
>Richard Hatch as Tom Zarek - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Hatch was grumbly because of wanting to make his own version, but he
makes a much better bad guy than he would have an Adama.
>SF GUEST ACTRESS
>Claudia Black as Vara Malduran - Stargate SG-1, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Not a fan of any of these shows, but Claudia Black did a good job.
>SF WRITING
>Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Yes, you can attack the ep on some niggling inconsistencies, but it
really does the job as the series opener.
>SF DIRECTING
>Michael Rymer - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
See above
>TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Didn't see any of them
>VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Beating out Letterman
>PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Also beating out Letterman (and raising screams of outrage, probably)
>REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
>Jeopardy! (syndicated)
And the question is 'What is the best pure game show on tv'
>NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
None of the above.
>ANIMATED PROGRAM
>Kim Possible (Disney)
Held up very well over its last season.
>BEST NEW SERIES
>Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>Gilmore Girls (WB)
Not a big fan of the 'Digger storyline last year, or the 'Paris and the
Professor' storyline.
>"The Worst":
>
>WORST SERIES
>The Simple Life (Fox)
By default. Come on people, sure you'll probably get to nominate Sorbo
in the future, but this was your last chance to vote for Andromeda. I
feel the newsgroup has collectively failed in its job. (Yeah, none of
you actually watched it this year, but that's no excuse)
>WORST PERFORMER
>Donald Trump as himself - The Apprentice (NBC)
Only because Sorbo didn't get on the ballot.
>***delete everything below this line***
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Delightful Meal
He fed the Pack
A little
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William George Ferguson <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
> >Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
>
> This vote is likely to get me pilloried on the GG newsgroup, where there
> is a big push for LG getting an Emmy nom, but I've always made it clear
> that I liked the Rory/Yale plots more than the Lorelai/Stars Hollow
> plots.
You'll get no complaints from me - I agree with you!
> >COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
> >Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
>
> >COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> >Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Great Googly Moogly! I agree with WGF even more!!!
Ryan (SRC)
>>Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
Just wanted to say how glad I am to see this one. Very deserving.
--
Ryan
CSIS Agent
a better way for comparing the shows).
BEST SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
Lost, Desperate Housewives, and Veronica Mars all come very close (if alias
was on there it would of gotten my vote) If it was based on pilots Lost
would of won, but based on consistency hands down Veronica Mars.
DRAMA SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
James Spader as Alan Shore - Boston Legal (ABC)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
DRAMA WRITING
Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
COMEDY SERIES
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS)
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
COMEDY WRITING
Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
SF SERIES
Alias (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias (ABC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
SF DIRECTING
J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Mad TV (Fox)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
America's Next Top Model (UPN)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
BEST NEW SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Alias (ABC)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
American Idol (Fox)
WORST PERFORMER
Ashlee Simpson as herself - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
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BEST SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
DRAMA WRITING
Rob Thomas - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Ben Stiller as Tony Wonder - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY WRITING
Philip Rosenthal, Ray Romano, Tucker Cawley, Lew Schneider, Steve
Skrovan, Jeremy Stevens, Mike Royce, Aaron Shure, Tom Caltabiano &
Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
SF SERIES
Lost (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Arliss Howard as Kenneth Push - Medium, recurring (NBC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
SF WRITING
Richard Haetm - Tru Calling, "Last Good Day" (Fox)
SF DIRECTING
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
The Magic of Ordinary Days (CBS)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
Meet the Press (NBC)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
The Simpsons (Fox)
BEST NEW SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Gilmore Girls (WB)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
The Simple Life (Fox)
WORST PERFORMER
Paris Hilton as herself - The Simple Life (Fox)
***delete everything below this line***
Fedda
BEST SERIES
Lost. I adore and will adores adore 24 and I went from liking Deadwood
to positively loving it this second season but Lost has kept suspense
rolling for 22 or so episodes and it's never flimsy...yet.
DRAMA SERIES
24
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Ian McShane. Pretty easy choice for me.
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Gotta go with my Glenn Close. She's still a milf.
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
weak choices. NO VOTE
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanogh
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
NO VOTE
DRAMA WRITING
A Lie Agreed Upon, Part One (Deadwood)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development. Love Gilmore and Scrubs and sometimes
Housewives but this is still the most continuously hilarious and
brilliant thing on tv.
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Jason Bateman
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Lauren Graham. You people are crazy if you think what Alexis Bledel or
any of what the Housewives does even compares to Ms. Graham's hilarious
and heart breaking protrayl of Lorelai. Ms. Graham gave the best female
performance this year, in comedy or drama. She deserves every bit of
critical fawning she gets.
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Will Arnette
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
NO VOTE
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
NO VOTE
COMEDY WRITING
"Good Grief"- Arrested Development
COMEDY DIRECTING
"Wedding Bell Blues"- Gilmore Girls
SF SERIES
Battlestar Galactica. Cause Lost ain't no Sci-fi.
SF LEAD ACTOR
Edward James Olmos. Would have voted for Fox but the show is if Lost
wasn't in the wrong catagory.
SF LEAD ACTRESS
NO VOTE
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Terry O'Quinn. Just cause I love him that much.
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
NO VOTE
SF GUEST ACTOR
NO VOTE
SF GUEST ACTRESS
NO VOTE
SF WRITING
NO VOTE
SF DIRECTING
NO VOTE
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Warm Springs
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Jon Stewart
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
NO VOTE
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy
BEST NEW SERIES
Lost.
>
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
24. Gilmore's demise in its fourth year was greatly overrated and
Alias was better but still sagged more than it should have.
>
> WORST SERIES
The Simple Life
>
> WORST PERFORMER
> NO VOTE. Not in the mood to dump on anybody.
Rob Jensen
<wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
>>Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
>
>This vote is likely to get me pilloried on the GG newsgroup, where there
>is a big push for LG getting an Emmy nom, but I've always made it clear
>that I liked the Rory/Yale plots more than the Lorelai/Stars Hollow
>plots.
(pushes up sleeves) Yep, you're gettin' a lotta shit from me, Mister
Schnickelfritz. Fooey on yooey. 8^p
Dude, I apologize in advance 'cause there's no way to ask this
politely -- Bledel over Graham? Are you on crack?
The Rory/Yale plots were across-the-board *far* weaker than either the
Lor/Luke storyline (particularly from Women of Questionable Morals-on,
which was more than half the season) or the Emily/Richard breakup.
And you can't tell me that Rory's storyline internship storyline over
the last five episodes produced. Also, Bledel clearly doesn't get
even *half* of what Amy is doing with Rory -- which only works for
Rory when Rory's butting heads with Lorelai or Paris. The rest of the
time, Bledel is lost.
Also, after the one-two punch of Graham's performances in "Wedding
Bell Blues" and "Say Something" (and following those up with her
telling Emily off at the end of Pulp Friction and then the season
finale), you still think that Bledel did better than Graham this
season?
>>WORST SERIES
>>The Simple Life (Fox)
>
>By default. Come on people, sure you'll probably get to nominate Sorbo
>in the future, but this was your last chance to vote for Andromeda. I
>feel the newsgroup has collectively failed in its job. (Yeah, none of
>you actually watched it this year, but that's no excuse)
Dude, I watched all five seasons of Andromeda. I'm grading it on a
curve given that this season almost didn't happen and, IMO, ending it
on the fourth season's rushed, incomprehensible finale would have been
*far* worse. Andromeda was always the definition of a guilty
pleasure, and on that level, even the rushed and budget-challenged
final season worked.
Engel's problem, IMO, was that he was *still* too cryptic about
Trance's nature and why we even had a Purple Trance or a
Battle-Angel-Alita Trance if all the Parliament of Trances were going
to look like the final, Elf Princess Trance.
Also, no fiction series on television is as bad as 7th Heaven. I'm
surprised I have to tell you these things.
And there's no way in hell I'll even dignify reality series with even
an insult award. They *want* the publicity of even "worst of" awards.
So such votes would only encourage them. The only way to get rid of
such idiots is to ignore them completely.
-- Rob
=============================
LORELAI: In the movie, only boy hobbits travel to Mount
Doom, but that's only because the girls went to do something
even more dangerous.
GIRL: What?
LORELAI: Have you ever heard of a Brazilian Bikini Wax?
Rob Jensen
Arrested Development (Fox)
-- Because Gg wasn't in this category, because 24 was overrated,
because Lost flubbed the season finale and AD didn't, because
Desperate Housewives is so totally a creative disaster that it
shouldn't have been nommed in any of the categories, and because I've
only started watching Veronica Mars *despite the fans'
overly-aggressive recommendations.*
DRAMA SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
-- 24 was a *vastly* overrated guilty pleasure, The Shield was a
little bit too quiet this season, House is too formulaic at this point
and I don't get HBO and won't pay a zillion dollars for their
over-priced DVDs. I like what I've seen of Veronica Mars so far.
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
* This one was a no-brainer. Laurie outshines both his competition
and his show.
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(NBC)
* No, I'm not Michael Ausiello. Close's best episodes were the last
two, outside the eligibility period, despite my increasing enjoyment
of Veronica Mars, Kristin Bell isn't the second coming of Sarah
Michelle Gellar -- yet (and moreover, she's far from the best actor on
the program), and the nomination of Christine Lahti for her laughably
bad, histrionic performance as a screed against liberals in the
otherwise touching Jack & Bobby is simply a mistake, IMO.
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
* If I could have voted for Goggins, Amandes *and* Colantoni, I would
have, but Goggins defines haplessness as Shane.
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Emily VanCamp as Amy Abbott - Everwood (WB)
* Partly because she *is* light years ahead of the racist caricature
of a Dragon Lady that Agdashloo played on 24, partly because I didn't
vote for Amandes at supporting, partly because Claudette didn't have
a character-defining storyline this season on The Shield and partly
because, well, Emily VanCamp does witty banter even better than
Rajskub does. But if VanCamp hadn't been in the category, Rajskub
would have gotten my vote.
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
* Martin Short is soooo creepy in this role that I can't forget him.
Haysbert is more a supporting actor than guest actor (he appeared in 7
episodes, not six, which is the maximum for Guest Actor at the Emmys).
James Earl Jones feels like a legacy vote for Darth Vader to me and
Tom Cavanagh, while great, is in danger of being typecast as the
Troubled Older Brother (see also: Scrubs). I'm also not nearly as
impressed so far with Harry Hamlin as everyone else is.
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner – Everwood, recurring (WB)
* Aisha Tyler for 24? WTF? Sela Ward, I get -- but Lancaster had
more impact in one episode of Everwood than Tyler had in all her
appearances on 24 and she played the weight of her character far
better than Ward did hers.
DRAMA WRITING
David Shore – House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
* No brainer.
DRAMA DIRECTING
Guy Ferland - The Shield, "Tar Baby" (FX)
* I think that the directing of House and Mars both generally fail its
actors. Eyes specifically must suffer for MacNamara over-playing the
gunshot versus their actually being able to get Mabius for the run of
the show. It's *the* critical mistake that sank the series. Tar Baby
wins almost by default, but partly because it made Anthony Anderson
look like a better actor than he actually is.
COMEDY SERIES
Gilmore Girls (WB)
* "Say Something" is the single best episode of any series on any
network or channel this year, period. The entire arc of "Women of
Questionable Morals" through "Pulp Friction," in which Lorelai finally
tells Emily to shut up is brilliantly realized and makes Arrested
Development's visual puns and scenery-chewing look cheap. Also,
Arrested Development was *far* too inconsistent (Mrs. Featherbottom
almost derailed it). Desperate Housewives is flat-out NOT a comedy
(it even criticizes the audience in one episode for laughing at it)
and, moreover, is in massive creative disarray. Add to that the
incessant media-whoring of two of its four over-rated actresses
(Hatcher and Longoria among a group including Sheridan and Huffman)
and Desperate Housewives' awards chances are simply a disgrace.
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
* He's got a depth as JD that Bateman's Michael lacks. Also, GOB is
not a lead, Charlie Sheen sleepwalks through all of his characters and
Ray Romano is merely good.
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Lauren Graham as Lorelai Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
* Well, duh.
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tony Hale as Buster Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
* Hale was brilliant. The best manchild since Bull Shannon and,
unlike Andy Dick's manchild schtick, Hale's Buster is never annoying.
Patterson isn't quite in the awards league yet and neither is Cera,
but both are improving. Garrett suffered from his show being tired
and Cross suffered from not being able to turn the sow's ear of Mrs.
Featherbottom into anything even resembling funny. (It would have
helped if Mrs. Doubtfire was as funny as people misremember it being,
too.)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
* Well, duh. I'm glad to see that Alia Shawkat made it into this
category, but the noms for Rupp and Walter are just mystifying.
Walter is consistently doing broad, unoriginal schtick far beneath
both what diRossi and Shawkat are doing on the same show.
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Henry Winkler as Barry Zuckerkorn - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
* just for hopping over the carnivorous fish
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Georgia Engel as Pat McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
* Like Fred Willard, but even better
COMEDY WRITING
John Levenstein - Arrested Development, "Good Grief" (Fox)
* But only because Gilmore Girls' "Say Something" wasn't even
nominated
COMEDY DIRECTING
Amy Sherman-Palladino - Gilmore Girls, "Wedding Bell Blues" (WB)
* But only because Gilmore Girls' "Say Something" (directed by Daniel
Palladino) wasn't even nominated. AD's "Good Grief!" came close,
though.
SF SERIES
Lost (ABC)
* despite fumbling the finale and despite my voting for Alias in
several acting categories, Lost was a more cohesive show. Battlestar
Galactica needs to pick up the pace a bit in each episode, The 4400
simply *needed* more episodes for the eligibility period and
Enterprise, though improved, wasn't *that* good.
SF LEAD ACTOR
Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
* By default. Olmos is over-rated as Adama (the best actor on BG is
McDonnell), Hall is dependable but not transcendant and Fox, IMO,
shouldn't even be in the category.
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
* Jennifer Garner has lost a *lot* of momentum this season and at
times seemed to be phoning it in. Lilly has a good body, but not a
good body of work yet, Blalock I admire more for her loyalty to the
fans than for her performances (although the final two-parter was her
finest work ever on the series) and Tamblyn *juuuust* misses getting
my vote due to the character's excessive crankiness this season.
McDonnell is just plain brilliant as Roslin, navigating the
character's illness and political struggles with equal precision.
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane - Alias (ABC)
* Holloway is a lead, I don't watch Medium (I can't stand Patricia
Arquette) and O'Quinn suffered from Lost's late-season muddle and
Garber just plain didn't have the stories that Rifkin did in the same
show. Garber just had an underwhelming year. Rifkin and Maestro had
the *only* coherent arc across the season of the five main characters
in the series.
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
* Helfer can't act. Sackhoff was good, but not *that* good. But
Maestro versus Kim was a hard choice. Maestro's origin story put her
over the top, though.
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran – Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
* All four that I saw turned in fine performances, but Shran is the
only one that had his own arc -- and Enterprise would not have been
the same show without him.
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Claudia Black as Vara Malduran - Stargate SG-1, recurring (Sci-Fi)
* Vara was a tour-de-force performance by Black. Olin wasn't on Alias
long enough and wasn't even nearly as critical to Alias's finale as
Black's Vara was to her story. Black just plain turned in the best,
funniest, craziest performance in the category. (And Sarah Wynter?
Come *on,* you 24 fans -- there was no excuse for carrying over that
much love to her mostly robotic performance on TDZ two years later.)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof – Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
* By default. The best storylines this season weren't even nominated
(that would be BSG's "Colonial Day" and "Kobol's Last Gleaming" and
Alias's "Tuesday" and Nadia's origin story. And "In a Mirror, Darkly,
Pt. 1" over either part of the "Terra Prime" story?! You Trekkies are
out of your minds.
SF DIRECTING
Again, as in writing, the best episodes weren't nominated (and, IMO,
they're the same ones from BSG and Alias that I mention above).
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Reefer Madness (Showtime)
* I have to confess -- since Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars wasn't
nominated (what in the hell is *wrong* with you people?), I voted for
Madness more by default than anything else.
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
* Well, Duh.
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Jon Stewart – The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
* Well, Duh, too.
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
ABSTAIN -- NO VOTE
* Whatever you wanna call it, reality shows disgust me too much to
take the category seriously. The only way to make the reality shows
go away is to ignore them. I'm only sory that Jeopardy didn't have
any real competition in the category, 'cause it really isn't that good
anymore.
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
Frontline (PBS)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
BEST NEW SERIES
Veronica Mars (UPN)
* BSG has severe pacing problems, House suffers from too much formula,
Lost suffers from muddled storytelling in the
far-too-long-and-incoherent season finale and Desperate Housewives is
a wholesale creative disaster (except for Bree's storyline) wholly
undeserving of even nominatiosn (except for Marcia Cross). Veronica
Mars keeps plugging away, though, and its flaws (too much dependence
on genre formula) are simply nowhere near as severe as those of the
rest.
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Gilmore Girls (WB)
* I'm a fan of the unfairly maligned, almost universally misunderstood
fourth season (which is my second-favorite season of the series), but
this season so outshined even that season that proportionally, it
pulled away from everything. Scrubs simply plugged away, consistent
in tone and quality with what has gone before -- it's good, it just
did't belong in this category because it didn't improve on its
nevertheless substantial quality. Alias, though improved, didn't
improve *that* much. Congratulating Alias for improving is like
congratulating the person next to you for breathing -- it simply
couldn't not improve. And Enterprise, though greatly improved
story-wise, suffered from bad acting all around -- except for
Trinneer, Bakula and Combs.
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
7th Heaven (WB)
* I will not encourage reality shows by giving them any more publicity
with even an award for suckitude. And 7th Heaven is so many levels of
magnitude worse than the next awful scripted show, According to Jim,
that there's no question who should win this category when Yes, Dear
isn't even half as bad as AtJ.
WORST PERFORMER
Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
* Again, not encouraging bad reality series with free publicity.
Among all fiction shows, Mischa Barton week in and week out gives the
most wooden, emotionless, stupid performances of the year -- and
that's no mean feat when she's surrounded by so many good actors and
the ensemble on 7th Heaven is so bad (except for Collins & Hicks).
Ashlee Simpson, despite the connection to 7th Heaven, doesn't deserve
to be pillioried for her SNL debacle -- via her own show, it's obvious
that she was sick and her whole band was in disarray that night as a
result. Voting for her in this category qualifies as kicking her when
she's down, IMO. And, again, the guy from Yes, Dear -- not nearly as
bad an actor as Jim Belushi and not even a *tenth* as bad as Mischa
Barton, who should just quit acting and take up underwater
basketweaving.
Chloe O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball
Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
> BEST SERIES
> Arrested Development (Fox)
> and I added "(unless I can write-in "Gilmore Girls")"
> -- Because Gg wasn't in this category, because 24 was overrated,
> because Lost flubbed the season finale and AD didn't, because
> Desperate Housewives is so totally a creative disaster that it
> shouldn't have been nommed in any of the categories,
Do I get to killfile *you* on "credibility grounds" now?!
> and because I've
> only started watching Veronica Mars *despite the fans'
> overly-aggressive recommendations.*
>
> DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
> Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
> (NBC)
> ...Kristin Bell isn't the second coming of Sarah Michelle Gellar...
Actually, you're right - I think she's *better* than SMG.
(SMG was one of those performers that was much stronger earlier in her
career. She must have accumulated bad habits, or gotten lazy, or
something, because she was getting very 'rote' by the last few years on
"Buffy". Very underwhelming. Which is a shock when you consider what a
revelation she was on AMC. )
> -- yet (and moreover, she's far from the best actor on
> the program),
Dude, you need your *eyes* checked - Bell's even better than Colantoni.
> and the nomination of Christine Lahti for her laughably
> bad, histrionic performance as a screed against liberals in the
> otherwise touching Jack & Bobby is simply a mistake, IMO.
Oh Gawd, you think J&B was a screed *against* liberals?!
> SF WRITING
> J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof – Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
> ...And "In a Mirror, Darkly,
> Pt. 1" over either part of the "Terra Prime" story?! You Trekkies are
> out of your minds.
Dude, the "Terra Prime" arc *sucked*. "Enterprise" really went into the
tank at the end of the season, essentially after "In a Mirror, Darkly,
Pt. 1". I'm shocked anyone thinks otherwise.
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> Gilmore Girls (WB)
> * I'm a fan of the unfairly maligned, almost universally misunderstood
> fourth season (which is my second-favorite season of the series)...
This explains so much.
> WORST PERFORMER
> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
> * Again, not encouraging bad reality series with free publicity.
> Among all fiction shows, Mischa Barton week in and week out gives the
> most wooden, emotionless, stupid performances of the year...
Are you Hole's clone?
The problems I have with Marissa have much more to do with the character
than with Barton. I think it's easy to beat up on Barton for a character
that is basically an incoherent shambles. Yeah, Barton's probably the
weakest of the 4 youngsters (and I would gladly, *gladly* have traded
her for Shannon Lucio). But *you* try and make sense out the Marissa
character!!
Grey Wolf
<grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sent my votes via email. Here's what I picked (empty categories
removed).
>BEST SERIES
>24 (Fox)
Overall, I think this series gave me the most when it came to action,
character moments (Commando Chloe, and any episode with Shohreh
Aghdashloo in it), suspense, surprise, and even a few real
heart-touching moments (Edgar and his Mom). As much as I liked the
other nominations, I had to give "Best Series" to 24 this season.
>DRAMA SERIES
>The Shield (FX)
Can't say enough about show, and it's all been said before by others.
:-)
>DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
>Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)
Simply awesome.
>DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
Narrowly edged out CCH Pounder.
>DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
Goggins always does an excellent job, but I felt we got to see more
range this year.
>DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
Even though she was a terrorist and would undoubtedly be up to no good
if she had the chance, I was sorry to see her go. Aghdashloo is now
on my permanent "must see" radar.
>DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
The only other performances I'd seen on this list was 24's Dennis
Haysbert... but he didn't get a lot of chances to really strut his
stuff this time. So I gave my vote to slimy Harry Hamlin instead.
>DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
>Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
For acting chops, I give this to Tyler. (For most enjoyable
character, I would've given the award to Veronica Mars' "Mac").
>DRAMA WRITING
>John McNamara - Eyes, "Pilot" (ABC)
>DRAMA DIRECTING
>Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
>(CBS)
I really liked the finale. Disturbing, but most importantly, it
brought all of the cast together and made them interact in a way that
they'd never had before... and I realized I cared about them all, even
Conrad. Great show.
>SF SERIES
>Lost (ABC)
>SF LEAD ACTOR
>Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
>SF LEAD ACTRESS
>Jolene Blalock as Subcmdr. T'Pol - Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
>SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Josh Holloway as Sawyer - Lost (ABC)
Of all the SF categories, this was the hardest for me to choose... I
liked everyone on this list.
>SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
>SF GUEST ACTOR
>Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
Jeffrey Combs deserves a "best guest actor" award period, regardless
of genre. :-)
>SF GUEST ACTRESS
>Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
>SF WRITING
>J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
>SF DIRECTING
>J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
>REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
>Survivor (CBS)
Hey, it's the only one I watch.
>BEST NEW SERIES
>Lost (ABC)
>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>Alias (ABC)
I almost gave this award to 24, but I actually liked last season's 24
(not as much as this season), whereas I didn't care for much of last
season's Alias at all. So my vote goes to Alias for most impoved.
David
Rob Jensen
J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <1119594978.2332d3ebe190f9c496f1b46de8f1dc7d@teranews>,
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> BEST SERIES
>> Arrested Development (Fox)
>> and I added "(unless I can write-in "Gilmore Girls")"
>> -- Because Gg wasn't in this category, because 24 was overrated,
>> because Lost flubbed the season finale and AD didn't, because
>> Desperate Housewives is so totally a creative disaster that it
>> shouldn't have been nommed in any of the categories,
>
>Do I get to killfile *you* on "credibility grounds" now?!
No. I only defaulted your posts to "Mark As Read." 8^p
>> and because I've
>> only started watching Veronica Mars *despite the fans'
>> overly-aggressive recommendations.*
>>
>> DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>> Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
>> (NBC)
>> ...Kristin Bell isn't the second coming of Sarah Michelle Gellar...
>
>Actually, you're right - I think she's *better* than SMG.
>
>(SMG was one of those performers that was much stronger earlier in her
>career. She must have accumulated bad habits, or gotten lazy, or
>something, because she was getting very 'rote' by the last few years on
>"Buffy". Very underwhelming. Which is a shock when you consider what a
>revelation she was on AMC. )
>
>> -- yet (and moreover, she's far from the best actor on
>> the program),
>
>Dude, you need your *eyes* checked - Bell's even better than Colantoni.
I respectfully disagree. Bell *still* doesn't know how to handle the
flashback sequences -- I think she might never have gotten over how
bad the long wig she has to wear in them is -- and she often sounds
lost as to how much to reflect the implications of the mystery plot in
Veronica's narration. (Plus, her head-tilting had already become so
mannered that they had to write it in to the X-Mas episode as a joke.)
Colantoni (and to some extent, Dohring) certainly help her ramp up her
game, but as of yet, she's nowhere near Emily VanCamp or Sarah
Lancaster's league, much less Colantoni's.
>> and the nomination of Christine Lahti for her laughably
>> bad, histrionic performance as a screed against liberals in the
>> otherwise touching Jack & Bobby is simply a mistake, IMO.
>
>Oh Gawd, you think J&B was a screed *against* liberals?!
No, I think the character of *Grace McCallister* was a screed against
liberals. The show itself as a whole was far more center-left.
>
>> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>> Gilmore Girls (WB)
>> * I'm a fan of the unfairly maligned, almost universally misunderstood
>> fourth season (which is my second-favorite season of the series)...
>
>This explains so much.
Hey, wanna hear more: I think the sixth season of Buffy is even more
misunderstood. I reject complaints viewers have about these seasons
(Gg s4 and Buffy s6) as I think viewers who hate these seasons are
having visceral reactions against the mere concept of the lead
characters making mistakes. I have yet to read a negative review of
either of these seasons (and I've read a *lot* of 'em) that take the
seasons as they are rather than as what the reviewer wanted them to
be, which was more of the same formula from previous seasons that each
show had grown out of. Even this year, a certain segment of Gg fans
are still stuck on the first two-three seasons (depending on how much
they hated Jess), unable to accept taht the evolution of the series
since Rory graduated *is part of the point of the series since Day
One.*
>> WORST PERFORMER
>> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
>> * Again, not encouraging bad reality series with free publicity.
>> Among all fiction shows, Mischa Barton week in and week out gives the
>> most wooden, emotionless, stupid performances of the year...
>
>Are you Hole's clone?
>
>The problems I have with Marissa have much more to do with the character
>than with Barton. I think it's easy to beat up on Barton for a character
>that is basically an incoherent shambles. Yeah, Barton's probably the
>weakest of the 4 youngsters (and I would gladly, *gladly* have traded
>her for Shannon Lucio). But *you* try and make sense out the Marissa
>character!!
Marissa is Jess Mariano from Gilmore Girls, with more money. Or Angel
to Ryan's Buffy. They're trying to do the whole rebel-without-a-clue
thing with Marissa, and while it works from a structural standpoint
and, IMO, despite the Oliver arc, was generally at least
passably-scripted, Barton flat-out lacks the acting chops to pull off
even the easiest-to-act moments, such as basic exposition or
one-on-one bonding scenes with Summer. Barton has *never* expressed
an honest, true emotion as Marissa, not even the overly-celebrated
primal scream tantrum at Julie at the beginning of this season.
Stoneco864
Lost (ABC)
DRAMA SERIES
Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Ian McShane as Al Swearengen - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
)
Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Brad Dourif as Doc Cochran - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Scrubs (NBC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Will Arnett as GOB Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
David Cross as Tobias Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Judy Greer as Kitty Sanchez - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
COMEDY WRITING
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
SF SERIES
Lost (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Clancy Brown as Brother Justin Crowe - Carnivàle (HBO)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Yujin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTOR
William Mapother as Ethan - Lost, recurring (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
DIRECTING
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
The Office Special (BBC America)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
Big Brother (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
Meet the Press (NBC)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
BEST NEW SERIES
Lost (ABC)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Scrubs (NBC)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
Yes, Dear (CBS)
WORST PERFORMER
K
news:1119727903.63571fa1f7f7ec39c873d0eabcdb67c0@teranews...
> >> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> >> Gilmore Girls (WB)
> >> * I'm a fan of the unfairly maligned, almost universally misunderstood
> >> fourth season (which is my second-favorite season of the series)...
> >
> >This explains so much.
>
> Hey, wanna hear more: I think the sixth season of Buffy is even more
> misunderstood. I reject complaints viewers have about these seasons
> (Gg s4 and Buffy s6) as I think viewers who hate these seasons are
> having visceral reactions against the mere concept of the lead
> characters making mistakes. I have yet to read a negative review of
> either of these seasons (and I've read a *lot* of 'em) that take the
> seasons as they are rather than as what the reviewer wanted them to
> be, which was more of the same formula from previous seasons that each
> show had grown out of. Even this year, a certain segment of Gg fans
> are still stuck on the first two-three seasons (depending on how much
> they hated Jess), unable to accept taht the evolution of the series
> since Rory graduated *is part of the point of the series since Day
> One.*
I got season 6 of Buffy from the beginning. It remains my second favorite
season of my favorite show of all time. I also can understand why people
wouldn't like it. I guess I was always able to appreciate what Joss was
doing with that season. In addition to getting it, I truly liked most of it.
In contrast, I hated most of season 4 of GG the first time around. In
watching the reruns, it worked better for me. I can see some of what Amy
seemed to be doing, I think. I just think it's a shame we had to endure so
much of the unbearable Jason and the wasted opportunity of Yale. In
retrospect, season 4 works well as a precussor to season 5. It's still my
least favorite season by quite a lot.
Karen
~~~~~~~
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.) -- Walt Whitman
ANIM8Rfsk
wrote on 6/25/05 2:26 PM:
> "Rob Jensen" <Shut...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1119727903.63571fa1f7f7ec39c873d0eabcdb67c0@teranews...
>>>> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>>>> Gilmore Girls (WB)
>>>> * I'm a fan of the unfairly maligned, almost universally misunderstood
>>>> fourth season (which is my second-favorite season of the series)...
>>>
>>> This explains so much.
>>
>> Hey, wanna hear more: I think the sixth season of Buffy is even more
>> misunderstood. I reject complaints viewers have about these seasons
>> (Gg s4 and Buffy s6) as I think viewers who hate these seasons are
>> having visceral reactions against the mere concept of the lead
>> characters making mistakes. I have yet to read a negative review of
>> either of these seasons (and I've read a *lot* of 'em) that take the
>> seasons as they are rather than as what the reviewer wanted them to
>> be, which was more of the same formula from previous seasons that each
>> show had grown out of. Even this year, a certain segment of Gg fans
>> are still stuck on the first two-three seasons (depending on how much
>> they hated Jess), unable to accept taht the evolution of the series
>> since Rory graduated *is part of the point of the series since Day
>> One.*
>
> I got season 6 of Buffy from the beginning. It remains my second favorite
> season of my favorite show of all time. I also can understand why people
> wouldn't like it. I guess I was always able to appreciate what Joss was
> doing with that season.
Uh, ignoring it and letting Marti turn it into a bad soap?
Rob Jensen
wrote:
See -- yet another person misses the whole point of season 6 being
Buffy hitting the rock bottom phase of the identity crisis that she'd
been going through since she started college in season FOUR. Tabula
Rasa is, like a total burlesque on the theme of s6 and the Musical is
the rock opera version of it. Willow's magic-as-crack addiction is
just one of several parallel plots among not just *all* the other
leads -- Xander, Spike and even the mostly MIA Giles *all* go through
identity crises as the main internal conflict in each of their arcs
for the season -- but also the Nerds of Doom's storyline is all about
ill-formed identities trying to take on roles/identities waaaaay
beyond their capabilities. And heck, Buffy still wasn't even
completely over-the-hump regarding her identity crisis until Willow
activated all the Potentials in the series finale a full year *after*
season 6 had ended.
IMO, people who dismiss Buffy s6 just flat-out weren't paying
attention. Likewise, the slams against Gg s4 tend to get real
tiresome after a while because too many of the complaints attack
superficial aspects of s4 ("Jason is annoying" versus "Buffy s6 was
Marti writing bad soap opera") and blow them waaaaay out of
proportion. Yeah, well, Jason was *supposed* to be a neurotic geek
(he had massive insomnia, after all) who Lorelai largely brought out
of his shell before both their fathers stomped on them and s6 of Buffy
was an exploration of why practically *everyone* in the cast, hero,
antihero and villain alike, made the worst possible choices in a given
situation (because they all had a lot of very difficult, personal
baggage that they had to go to war with themselves to come to terms
with). In both cases, the detractors can't see the forest for the
trees, IMO.
Chloe O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball
Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
> IMO, people who dismiss Buffy s6 just flat-out weren't paying
> attention.
Or they just don't like one long, continuous, uninterrupted downer.
One definition of "bad" soap (in my book, at least) is a show that's
"unbalanced". Once example of that is all mopey self-pity, all the time.
I think that's the main reason that people dislike that season of
"Buffy" - all downer, no "happy".
Laddy
"Chloe O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball"
news:ijball***SPAM-No***-9FBC92.094...@news-rdr-01.socal.rr.com...
> In article <1119770900.d1b21e70665a1b086ce1cda8275aac04@teranews>,
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> IMO, people who dismiss Buffy s6 just flat-out weren't paying
>> attention.
>
> Or they just don't like one long, continuous, uninterrupted downer.
>
> One definition of "bad" soap (in my book, at least) is a show that's
> "unbalanced". Once example of that is all mopey self-pity, all the time.
>
> I think that's the main reason that people dislike that season of
> "Buffy" - all downer, no "happy".
>
yep
ANIM8Rfsk
ijball***SPAM-No***-9FBC92.094...@news-rdr-01.socal.rr.com, Chloe
O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball at ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid
wrote on 6/26/05 9:41 AM:
> In article <1119770900.d1b21e70665a1b086ce1cda8275aac04@teranews>,
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> IMO, people who dismiss Buffy s6 just flat-out weren't paying
>> attention.
>
> Or they just don't like one long, continuous, uninterrupted downer.
Downer might have been okay if the writing, direction, blocking, lighting,
most everything hadn't been sub par.
Rob Jensen
J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <1119770900.d1b21e70665a1b086ce1cda8275aac04@teranews>,
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> IMO, people who dismiss Buffy s6 just flat-out weren't paying
>> attention.
>
>Or they just don't like one long, continuous, uninterrupted downer.
>
>One definition of "bad" soap (in my book, at least) is a show that's
>"unbalanced". Once example of that is all mopey self-pity, all the time.
>
>I think that's the main reason that people dislike that season of
>"Buffy" - all downer, no "happy".
The much-hated Doublemeat Palace is frickin' hysterical, IMO, as are
Tabula Rasa, Once More, With Feeling (funny *and* heartbreaking), As
You Were, Gone, Flooded and Life Serial and even more serious episodes
like the opening two-parter, Bargaining (which had the
always-laugh-out-loud-funny Buffybot) and Hell's Bells (which had
plenty of Xander's hilarious neuroses amongst the wedding heartbreak)
and virtually every episode involving Andrew had ROTF laugh-out-loud
funny scenes. IMO, s6 detractors dwell quite excessively and bitterly
on the "downer" events because these detractors were never quite as
willing to go to where Joss and Marti wanted to go with Buffy as they
*think* they were. s6 was clearly *not* all-self-pity, all-the-time
regardless of s6-detractors' attempts to distort the show's
explorations of identity crises and hitting rock-bottom into
caricature.
Likewise Gg s4's detractors tend to dismiss they blow one element they
don't like waaaaaay out of importance relative to the season's overall
arc. In Gg's case, that would be Jason -- the s4 detractors generally
to this day attack the season primarily (IMO) because Jason isn't Luke
or Christopher (or Max) . Although early in s4, the attackers
attacked it because they incorrectly decided "that nothing was
happening" they soon abandoned that clearly invalid excuse in favor
of attacking even the concept of Jason. The *only* valid complaints
I've seen about Gg s4 have been complaints about Luke's non-marriage
to Nicole, which was handled so badly (due to lack of chemistry
between Patterson and the actor playing Nicole) that the thematic
purpose of that subplot was lost.
IMO, a certain minority of fans of *every* series tend to attack the
given series at the beginning of every new season because their
expectations were so high that they gave the given series no chance to
do anything other than disappoint them. It becomes more and more
obvious that high expectations are the problem the more and more the
fans attack a single element -- "it's toooooo darrrrrrrkkkkkk!" in the
case of Buffy s6, "Jason" in the case of Gg s4. Moreover, I
*guarantee* you that there are going to be *huge* complaints directed
toward Gg at the beginning of this next season (up to the first five
or six episodes) simply *because* s5 overall worked at such a high
level and because it maintained that quality to end on such a high
note. Moreover, the attacks the show was getting for the first couple
of parts of the last arc of this season, "To Live and Let Diorama," in
particular (where the detractors IMO missed the point that it was a
"breather" episode that was primarily an exploration of Stars Hollow
"townie" comedy and part thematic set-up for the rest of the arc)
seems to me to be a preview of attacks the show is going to get in the
fall *no matter what it stories it tells.*
Rob Jensen
wrote:
>in article
>ijball***SPAM-No***-9FBC92.094...@news-rdr-01.socal.rr.com, Chloe
>O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball at ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid
>wrote on 6/26/05 9:41 AM:
>
>> In article <1119770900.d1b21e70665a1b086ce1cda8275aac04@teranews>,
>> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IMO, people who dismiss Buffy s6 just flat-out weren't paying
>>> attention.
>>
>> Or they just don't like one long, continuous, uninterrupted downer.
>
>Downer might have been okay if the writing, direction, blocking, lighting,
>most everything hadn't been sub par.
>
Now *that* I think is a valid complaint -- IMO, several of the
episodes at mid-to-two-thirds-through season 6, "downer" and "comedic"
episodes alike were horribly rushed to some degree or another --
Hell's Bells, As You Were, Normal Again, just to name three from that
period. But I still count Doublemeat Palace as the most brilliantly
sick, demented and unfairly maligned episode of the series.
Chloe O'Brian's Secret Lover, Ian J. Ball
Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
> But I still count Doublemeat Palace as the most brilliantly
> sick, demented and unfairly maligned episode of the series.
For once I agree with you - DoMP is the one post-"Who Are You" episode
of "Buffy" that I can actually say I kind of like.
I think the problem is, by the time that episode of "Buffy" aired, most
of the fans of that kind of "Buffy" humor (e.g. fans of season #1) had
already stopped watching the show (e.g. me! - I only stumbled upon DoMP
quite by accident).
So, by the time DoMP aired, most of the remaining "Buffy" fans were the
"melodrama" people who didn't like 'silly' episodes like DoMP.
But DoMP is a real 'throwback' to season #1-type episodes of "Buffy".
Joshua Kreitzer
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BEST SERIES
24 (Fox)
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SERIES
24 (Fox)
Deadwood (HBO)
House (Fox)
The Shield (FX)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
Ian McShane as Al Swearengen - Deadwood (HBO)
Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer - 24 (Fox)
James Spader as Alan Shore - Boston Legal (ABC)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(NBC)
Christine Lahti as Grace McCallister - Jack & Bobby (WB)
Molly Parker as Alma Garret - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tom Amandes as Harold Abbott - Everwood (WB)
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Brad Dourif as Doc Cochran - Deadwood (HBO)
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
William Sanderson as E.B. Farnum - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
Paula Malcomson as Trixie - Deadwood (HBO)
CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
Emily VanCamp as Amy Abbott - Everwood (WB)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Jimmy McCallister - Jack & Bobby, recurring (WB)
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
James Earl Jones as Will Cleveland - Everwood, "The Tipping Point" (WB)
Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Amanda Seyfried as Lilly Kane - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
John McNamara - Eyes, "Pilot" (ABC)
David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
Rob Thomas - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
Guy Ferland - The Shield, "Tar Baby" (FX)
Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Will Arnett as GOB Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
Ray Romano as Ray Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper - Two and a Half Men (CBS)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lauren Graham as Lorelai Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael Cera as George-Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
David Cross as Tobias Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Tony Hale as Buster Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Debra Jo Rupp as Kitty Forman - That '70s Show (Fox)
Alia Shawkat as Maeby Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jessica Walter as Lucille Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
Chris Elliott as Peter McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Ben Stiller as Tony Wonder - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Fred Willard as Hank McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Henry Winkler as Barry Zuckerkorn - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Georgia Engel as Pat McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Judy Greer as Kitty Sanchez - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
(ABC)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Maggie Lizer - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY WRITING
Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Mitchell Hurwitz & Chuck Martin - Arrested Development, "My Hand to
God" (Fox)
John Levenstein - Arrested Development, "Good Grief" (Fox)
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
Philip Rosenthal, Ray Romano, Tucker Cawley, Lew Schneider, Steve
Skrovan, Jeremy Stevens, Mike Royce, Aaron Shure, Tom Caltabiano &
Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
Peter Lauer - Arrested Development, "Sad Sack" (Fox)
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Amy Sherman-Palladino - Gilmore Girls, "Wedding Bell Blues" (WB)
SF SERIES
The 4400 (USA)
Alias (ABC)
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Lost (ABC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Clancy Brown as Brother Justin Crowe - Carnivale (HBO)
Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
Anthony Michael Hall as Johnny Smith - The Dead Zone (USA)
Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Jolene Blalock as Subcmdr. T'Pol - Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Amber Tamblyn as Joan Girardi - Joan of Arcadia (CBS)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Josh Holloway as Sawyer - Lost (ABC)
Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane - Alias (ABC)
Jake Weber as Joe Dubois - Medium (NBC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
Tricia Helfer as Number Six - Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
Richard Hatch as Tom Zarek - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Arliss Howard as Kenneth Push - Medium, recurring (NBC)
William Mapother as Ethan - Lost, recurring (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Claudia Black as Vara Malduran - Stargate SG-1, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
L. Scott Caldwell as Rose - Lost, recurring (ABC)
Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Richard Haetm - Tru Calling, "Last Good Day" (Fox)
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Mike Sussman - Star Trek: Enterprise, "In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1"
(UPN)
SF DIRECTING
J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
Ken Olin - Alias, "Authorized Personnel Only, Part 1" (ABC)
Michael Rymer - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Scott Winant - Carnivale, "New Canaan, CA" (HBO)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Lackawanna Blues (HBO)
The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (HBO)
The Magic of Ordinary Days (CBS)
The Office Special (BBC America)
Reefer Madness (Showtime)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Mad TV (Fox)
Saturday Night Live (NBC)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Conan O'Brien - Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Maya Rudolph - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
America's Next Top Model (UPN)
Big Brother (CBS)
Jeopardy! (syndicated)
Survivor (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
60 Minutes (CBS)
Ebert & Roeper (syndicated)
Frontline (PBS)
Meet the Press (NBC)
The Seinfeld Story (NBC)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
Kim Possible (Disney)
King of the Hill (Fox)
The Simpsons (Fox)
South Park (Comedy Central)
BEST NEW SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
House (Fox)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
24 (Fox)
Alias (ABC)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
7th Heaven (WB)
American Idol (Fox)
The Apprentice (NBC)
The Simple Life (Fox)
Yes, Dear (CBS)
WORST PERFORMER
Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
Paris Hilton as herself - The Simple Life (Fox)
Mike O'Malley as Jimmy Hughes - Yes, Dear (CBS)
Ashlee Simpson as herself - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Donald Trump as himself - The Apprentice (NBC)
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>
> BEST SERIES
> Lost (ABC)
>
> DRAMA SERIES
> Deadwood (HBO)
> DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
>
> James Spader as Alan Shore - Boston Legal (ABC)
>
> DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
> Molly Parker as Alma Garret - Deadwood (HBO)
>
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
>> William Sanderson as E.B. Farnum - Deadwood (HBO)
>
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>> Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
>
> DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>
> DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
>> Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
> DRAMA WRITING
>> David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
> DRAMA DIRECTING
>> Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
> (CBS)
>
> COMEDY SERIES
> Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
>
> COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
>> Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>
> COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
>
> COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
> > Henry Winkler as Barry Zuckerkorn - Arrested Development, recurring
> (Fox)
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
> Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
>
> COMEDY WRITING
>> Philip Rosenthal, Ray Romano, Tucker Cawley, Lew Schneider, Steve
> Skrovan, Jeremy Stevens, Mike Royce, Aaron Shure, Tom Caltabiano &
> Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
>
> COMEDY DIRECTING
> Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
> SF SERIES
> > Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
>
>
> SF LEAD ACTOR
> Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
> (Sci-Fi)
>>
> SF LEAD ACTRESS
> Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
> (Sci-Fi)
>
> SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
>>
> SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Tricia Helfer as Number Six - Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
> >
> SF GUEST ACTOR
>> Richard Hatch as Tom Zarek - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci-Fi)
>
> SF GUEST ACTRESS
>> L. Scott Caldwell as Rose - Lost, recurring (ABC)
>>
> SF WRITING
>> Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
=
> SF DIRECTING
>
> Scott Winant - Carnivale, "New Canaan, CA" (HBO)
>
> TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
>
> PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
>
> REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
> The Amazing Race (CBS)
>
>
> NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
> Frontline (PBS)
>
> ANIMATED PROGRAM
> South Park (Comedy Central)
>
> BEST NEW SERIES
> Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
>
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
)
>
> "The Worst":
>
> WORST SERIES
> The Simple Life (Fox)
>
>
> WORST PERFORMER
Major ChrisB
11th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
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BEST SERIES
Lost (ABC)
DRAMA SERIES
24 (Fox)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Amanda Seyfried as Lilly Kane - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
(although I wouldn't class Desperate Housewives even close to being a
comedy)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
David Cross as Tobias Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
(would have voted for GOB if he's been listed as suppoting)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Fünke - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY WRITING
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
SF SERIES
Lost (ABC)
(although has been catagorically stated by writers, directors and creators
that it's NOT sci-fi)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
(again LOST isn't Sci-Fi but neither is Alias and I dont watch the others
that were nominated)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
(again not sci-fi)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Jake Weber as Joe Dubois - Medium (NBC)
(only one nominated I'd consider close to being sci-fi)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Arliss Howard as Kenneth Push - Medium, recurring (NBC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
(I love julie bowen)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
SF DIRECTING
J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
The Office Special (BBC America)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
Not seen any of these
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
BEST NEW SERIES
Lost (ABC)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Alias (ABC)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
The Simple Life (Fox)
WORST PERFORMER
Ashlee Simpson as herself - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Major ChrisB
Ok first off I am huge BtVS fan, i have spent a lot of money on the show,
mechandise, DVD Box Sets, then the DVD complete Collection, I've been to a
convention day and I have a near encyclopedic knowlage of the show....saying
all that, I have never liked AMG in anything. she was easily my least
favourite of the main characters on Buffy (with Willow, Xander, Giles, Anya,
Dawn, Spike being the reason I watched as opposed to Buffy herself) and I've
always considered her a horrible actress and highly over rated in the looks
department. Kristen Bell is far more attractive than SMG has been in
anything (with the possible exception of Cruel intentions where she was
overshaddowed by both Blair and Witherspoon) and she's far more convincing
as Veronica than SMG ever was as Buffy.
> DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
> Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
> Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
> * Martin Short is soooo creepy in this role that I can't forget him.
> Haysbert is more a supporting actor than guest actor (he appeared in 7
> episodes, not six, which is the maximum for Guest Actor at the Emmys).
> James Earl Jones feels like a legacy vote for Darth Vader to me and
> Tom Cavanagh, while great, is in danger of being typecast as the
> Troubled Older Brother (see also: Scrubs).
I dont see why Cavanagh would be typecast as that. He's done it in Scrubs
that I know of. He was the younger brother to the troubled Lloyd in Ed and
I dont think I've seen him in too much else which is a shame coz Ed was one
of my favourite shows and tom and Julie Bowen would be amongst my favourite
TV Actors.
> DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
> Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
> * Aisha Tyler for 24? WTF? Sela Ward, I get -- but Lancaster had
> more impact in one episode of Everwood than Tyler had in all her
> appearances on 24 and she played the weight of her character far
> better than Ward did hers.
although I dont watch everwood I have to agree that Tyler shouldn't be
nominated for 24. Perhaps CSI but NOT 24.
>
> SF SERIES
> Lost (ABC)
> * despite fumbling the finale and despite my voting for Alias in
> several acting categories, Lost was a more cohesive show. Battlestar
> Galactica needs to pick up the pace a bit in each episode, The 4400
> simply *needed* more episodes for the eligibility period and
> Enterprise, though improved, wasn't *that* good.
yes but in saying all that Lost isn't sci-fi
> REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
> ABSTAIN -- NO VOTE
> * Whatever you wanna call it, reality shows disgust me too much to
> take the category seriously. The only way to make the reality shows
> go away is to ignore them. I'm only sory that Jeopardy didn't have
> any real competition in the category, 'cause it really isn't that good
> anymore.
To class all reality shows with "disgust" is just narrow minded and stupid,
there hundreds of reality shows from several sub genres with different
formats, layouts and styles and most are very different from others.
Amazing Race, Survivor and Big Brother would top my favourite show list over
many many scripted dramas listed here. My favourite shows include things
like ER, the Third Watch, CSI and The West Wing - none of which made it to
nominations considering they are amongst the most popular shows in the US.
Other than that I'd easily pick those three reality shows over 24, Arrested
Development or Desperate Housewives.
Anne
"K" <star_...@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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[snip]
> I got season 6 of Buffy from the beginning. It remains my second favorite
> season of my favorite show of all time. I also can understand why people
> wouldn't like it. I guess I was always able to appreciate what Joss was
> doing with that season. In addition to getting it, I truly liked most of
> it.
> In contrast, I hated most of season 4 of GG the first time around. In
> watching the reruns, it worked better for me. I can see some of what Amy
> seemed to be doing, I think. I just think it's a shame we had to endure so
> much of the unbearable Jason and the wasted opportunity of Yale. In
> retrospect, season 4 works well as a precussor to season 5. It's still my
> least favorite season by quite a lot.
>
> Karen
Me too, on all counts, except that I could barely stand re-watching many of
the worst episodes (or portions thereof) from GG season 4 (though the good
ones were a delight). The whole Luke-Nicole thing was a disappointing waste
of screen time the way it was handled.
K
news:Z_Wve.1248$At6.644@trndny09...
Yes, the Nicole thing was perhaps the worst part of it all. I think I had
temporary amnesia because it was too painful to think about. I agree that
some season 4 episodes are so bad that they don't improve with rewatching. I
just find in general, however, that GG is the sort of show that improves
with multiple viewings, and after knowing how the whole season turned out,
when I watched the reruns, I was able to appreciate the arcs and the overall
purpose of them better.
Joshua Kreitzer
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received for the Ratty Awards. If you submitted your ballot before
today and haven't received an acknowledgment, please e-mail me to check
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Please note that these acknowledgments are not automated but are being
sent out by hand, so please allow 24 hours to receive your
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Thanks! If you haven't voted yet, please remember to send your ballot
by July 10!
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> BEST SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
The best season for 24 since season one.
>
> DRAMA SERIES
> House (Fox)
>
> DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
> Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
This show would have been cancelled after four weeks with any other
actor in the lead role.
>
> DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
> Molly Parker as Alma Garret - Deadwood (HBO)
>
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
> William Sanderson as E.B. Farnum - Deadwood (HBO)
>
> DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
She is the annoying but efficient co-worker that everybody has in their
office.
>
> DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
> Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
>
> DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
> Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
>
> DRAMA WRITING
> David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
The best hour of television this year was this episode of House when he
explains (in a convoluted way) to a Diagnostics class how he wound up
with a bum leg due to a misdiagnosis.
>
> DRAMA DIRECTING
> Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
>
> COMEDY SERIES
> Arrested Development (Fox)
> COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> Will Arnett as GOB Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
>
> COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
> Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>
> COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
>
> COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Jessica Walter as Lucille Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
> Fred Willard as Hank McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
> (CBS)
>
> COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
> Georgia Engel as Pat McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
> (CBS)
>
> COMEDY WRITING
> Mitchell Hurwitz & Chuck Martin - Arrested Development, "My Hand to
> God" (Fox)
>
> COMEDY DIRECTING
> Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
>
> SF SERIES
> Lost (ABC)
>
> SF LEAD ACTOR
> Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
>
> SF LEAD ACTRESS
> Amber Tamblyn as Joan Girardi - Joan of Arcadia (CBS)
>
> SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
> Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
>
> SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
>
> SF GUEST ACTOR
> William Mapother as Ethan - Lost, recurring (ABC)
>
> SF GUEST ACTRESS
> Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
>
> SF WRITING
> J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
>
> SF DIRECTING
> J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
>
> TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (HBO)
>
> VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
>
> PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
> David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
>
> REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
> Jeopardy! (syndicated)
>
> NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
> Meet the Press (NBC)
>
> ANIMATED PROGRAM
> South Park (Comedy Central)
The thing I like best about SP is that they go after everybody; no
subject is off limits.
>
> BEST NEW SERIES
> House (Fox)
>
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> 24 (Fox)
>
> "The Worst":
>
> WORST SERIES
> The Simple Life (Fox)
The worst thing I've ever seen on broadcast network TV.
>
> WORST PERFORMER
Major ChrisB
"Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> To all Ratty Awards voters:
>
> I have started to send acknowledgments to everyone whose ballot I have
> received for the Ratty Awards. If you submitted your ballot before
> today and haven't received an acknowledgment, please e-mail me to check
> if your ballot was received.
>
> Please note that these acknowledgments are not automated but are being
> sent out by hand, so please allow 24 hours to receive your
> acknowledgment.
I never got one...
Joshua Kreitzer
> "Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1120009291.0...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > To all Ratty Awards voters:
> >
> > I have started to send acknowledgments to everyone whose ballot I have
> > received for the Ratty Awards.
>
A duplicate acknowledgment has been sent to Major ChrisB.
As for the rest of you, please send in your ballots!
Joshua Kreitzer
grom...@hotmail.com
Joshua Kreitzer
This posting includes the final ballot for the 2004-2005 Ratty Awards
from the rec.arts.tv newsgroup as compiled by Robert Licuria. There
are 11 days left to vote.
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BEST SERIES
24 (Fox)
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA SERIES
24 (Fox)
Deadwood (HBO)
House (Fox)
The Shield (FX)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
Ian McShane as Al Swearengen - Deadwood (HBO)
Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer - 24 (Fox)
James Spader as Alan Shore - Boston Legal (ABC)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(NBC)
Christine Lahti as Grace McCallister - Jack & Bobby (WB)
Molly Parker as Alma Garret - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tom Amandes as Harold Abbott - Everwood (WB)
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Brad Dourif as Doc Cochran - Deadwood (HBO)
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
William Sanderson as E.B. Farnum - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
Paula Malcomson as Trixie - Deadwood (HBO)
CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
Emily VanCamp as Amy Abbott - Everwood (WB)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Jimmy McCallister - Jack & Bobby, recurring (WB)
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
James Earl Jones as Will Cleveland - Everwood, "The Tipping Point" (WB)
Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Amanda Seyfried as Lilly Kane - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
John McNamara - Eyes, "Pilot" (ABC)
David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
Rob Thomas - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
Guy Ferland - The Shield, "Tar Baby" (FX)
Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Will Arnett as GOB Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
Ray Romano as Ray Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper - Two and a Half Men (CBS)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lauren Graham as Lorelai Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael Cera as George-Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
David Cross as Tobias Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Tony Hale as Buster Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Debra Jo Rupp as Kitty Forman - That '70s Show (Fox)
Alia Shawkat as Maeby Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jessica Walter as Lucille Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
Chris Elliott as Peter McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Ben Stiller as Tony Wonder - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Fred Willard as Hank McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Henry Winkler as Barry Zuckerkorn - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Georgia Engel as Pat McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Judy Greer as Kitty Sanchez - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
(ABC)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Maggie Lizer - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY WRITING
Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Mitchell Hurwitz & Chuck Martin - Arrested Development, "My Hand to
God" (Fox)
John Levenstein - Arrested Development, "Good Grief" (Fox)
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
Philip Rosenthal, Ray Romano, Tucker Cawley, Lew Schneider, Steve
Skrovan, Jeremy Stevens, Mike Royce, Aaron Shure, Tom Caltabiano &
Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
Peter Lauer - Arrested Development, "Sad Sack" (Fox)
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Amy Sherman-Palladino - Gilmore Girls, "Wedding Bell Blues" (WB)
SF SERIES
The 4400 (USA)
Alias (ABC)
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Lost (ABC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Clancy Brown as Brother Justin Crowe - Carnivale (HBO)
Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
Anthony Michael Hall as Johnny Smith - The Dead Zone (USA)
Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Jolene Blalock as Subcmdr. T'Pol - Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Amber Tamblyn as Joan Girardi - Joan of Arcadia (CBS)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Josh Holloway as Sawyer - Lost (ABC)
Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane - Alias (ABC)
Jake Weber as Joe Dubois - Medium (NBC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
Tricia Helfer as Number Six - Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
Richard Hatch as Tom Zarek - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Arliss Howard as Kenneth Push - Medium, recurring (NBC)
William Mapother as Ethan - Lost, recurring (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Claudia Black as Vara Malduran - Stargate SG-1, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
L. Scott Caldwell as Rose - Lost, recurring (ABC)
Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Richard Haetm - Tru Calling, "Last Good Day" (Fox)
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Mike Sussman - Star Trek: Enterprise, "In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1"
(UPN)
SF DIRECTING
J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
Ken Olin - Alias, "Authorized Personnel Only, Part 1" (ABC)
Michael Rymer - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Scott Winant - Carnivale, "New Canaan, CA" (HBO)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Lackawanna Blues (HBO)
The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (HBO)
The Magic of Ordinary Days (CBS)
The Office Special (BBC America)
Reefer Madness (Showtime)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Mad TV (Fox)
Saturday Night Live (NBC)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Conan O'Brien - Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Maya Rudolph - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
America's Next Top Model (UPN)
Big Brother (CBS)
Jeopardy! (syndicated)
Survivor (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
60 Minutes (CBS)
Ebert & Roeper (syndicated)
Frontline (PBS)
Meet the Press (NBC)
The Seinfeld Story (NBC)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
Kim Possible (Disney)
King of the Hill (Fox)
The Simpsons (Fox)
South Park (Comedy Central)
BEST NEW SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
House (Fox)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
24 (Fox)
Alias (ABC)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
7th Heaven (WB)
American Idol (Fox)
The Apprentice (NBC)
The Simple Life (Fox)
Yes, Dear (CBS)
WORST PERFORMER
Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
Paris Hilton as herself - The Simple Life (Fox)
Mike O'Malley as Jimmy Hughes - Yes, Dear (CBS)
Ashlee Simpson as herself - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Donald Trump as himself - The Apprentice (NBC)
***delete everything below this line***
Joshua Kreitzer (for the Ratty Awards team)
grom...@hotmail.com
Joshua Kreitzer
This posting includes the final ballot for the 2004-2005 Ratty Awards
from the rec.arts.tv newsgroup as compiled by Robert Licuria. There
are 8 days left to vote.
The following are the rules for this second stage of voting:
* The ballot has been posted to the rec.arts.tv, rec.arts.sf.tv, and
Joshua Kreitzer
This posting includes the final ballot for the 2004-2005 Ratty Awards
from the rec.arts.tv newsgroup as compiled by Robert Licuria. There
are 5 days left to vote; the voting deadline is Sunday, July 10, 2005,
at 10 p.m. US Pacific time. Don't forget to send in your ballot!
Mr. Pope John Hole III
Lost (ABC)
DRAMA SERIES
Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Brad Dourif as Doc Cochran - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
James Earl Jones as Will Cleveland - Everwood, "The Tipping Point" (WB)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger" (CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper - Two and a Half Men (CBS)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Fred Willard as Hank McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Maggie Lizer - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
COMEDY WRITING
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
SF SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
SF WRITING
Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
SF DIRECTING
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (HBO)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
60 Minutes (CBS)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
South Park (Comedy Central)
BEST NEW SERIES
Lost (ABC)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Alias (ABC)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
Yes, Dear (CBS)
WORST PERFORMER
Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
†††
Mr. Pope John Hole III
The favor of your reply is requested.
"I once fought for two days with an arrow through my testicle." Kingdom
of Heaven
"You would make a destructive god, Mr. Hole, but as a human, you remain
pathetic and ineffectual." -- Heck
Joshua Kreitzer
This posting includes the final ballot for the 2004-2005 Ratty Awards
from the rec.arts.tv newsgroup as compiled by Robert Licuria. There
are 4 days left to vote; the voting deadline is Sunday, July 10, 2005,
Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
Ian McShane as Al Swearengen - Deadwood (HBO)
Kiefer Sutherland as Jack Bauer - 24 (Fox)
James Spader as Alan Shore - Boston Legal (ABC)
DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Veronica Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Glenn Close as Monica Rawling - The Shield (FX)
Mariska Hargitay as Olivia Benson - Law & Order: Special Victims Unit
(NBC)
Christine Lahti as Grace McCallister - Jack & Bobby (WB)
Molly Parker as Alma Garret - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Tom Amandes as Harold Abbott - Everwood (WB)
Enrico Colantoni as Keith Mars - Veronica Mars (UPN)
Brad Dourif as Doc Cochran - Deadwood (HBO)
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
William Sanderson as E.B. Farnum - Deadwood (HBO)
DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Shohreh Aghdashloo as Dina Araz - 24 (Fox)
Paula Malcomson as Trixie - Deadwood (HBO)
CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
Mary Lynn Rajskub as Chloe O'Brian - 24 (Fox)
Emily VanCamp as Amy Abbott - Everwood (WB)
DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Jimmy McCallister - Jack & Bobby, recurring (WB)
Dennis Haysbert as David Palmer - 24, recurring (Fox)
Harry Hamlin as Aaron Echolls - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
James Earl Jones as Will Cleveland - Everwood, "The Tipping Point" (WB)
Martin Short as Sebastian Ballentine - Law & Order: Special Victims
Unit, "Pure" (NBC)
DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Sarah Lancaster as Madison Kellner - Everwood, recurring (WB)
Tina Majorino as Mac - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Amanda Seyfried as Lilly Kane - Veronica Mars, recurring (UPN)
Aisha Tyler as Marianne Taylor - 24, recurring (Fox)
Sela Ward as Stacy Warner - House, recurring (Fox)
DRAMA WRITING
John McNamara - Eyes, "Pilot" (ABC)
David Milch - Deadwood, "A Lie Agreed Upon, Part 1" (HBO)
Diane Ruggiero - Veronica Mars, "A Trip to the Dentist" (UPN)
David Shore - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
Rob Thomas - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
DRAMA DIRECTING
Paris Barclay - House, "Three Stories" (Fox)
John Cassar - 24, "Day 4: 6:00 AM - 7:00 AM" (Fox)
Guy Ferland - The Shield, "Tar Baby" (FX)
Mark Piznarsky - Veronica Mars, "Pilot" (UPN)
Quentin Tarantino - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, "Grave Danger"
(CBS)
COMEDY SERIES
Arrested Development (Fox)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Will Arnett as GOB Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jason Bateman as Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Zach Braff as J.D. Dorian - Scrubs (NBC)
Ray Romano as Ray Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Charlie Sheen as Charlie Harper - Two and a Half Men (CBS)
COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Alexis Bledel as Rory Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Marcia Cross as Bree Van De Kamp - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Lauren Graham as Lorelai Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Teri Hatcher as Susan Mayer - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Felicity Huffman as Lynette Scavo - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael Cera as George-Michael Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
David Cross as Tobias Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Brad Garrett as Robert Barone - Everybody Loves Raymond (CBS)
Tony Hale as Buster Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
Scott Patterson as Luke Danes - Gilmore Girls (WB)
COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kelly Bishop as Emily Gilmore - Gilmore Girls (WB)
Portia de Rossi as Lindsay Bluth Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Debra Jo Rupp as Kitty Forman - That '70s Show (Fox)
Alia Shawkat as Maeby Funke - Arrested Development (Fox)
Jessica Walter as Lucille Bluth - Arrested Development (Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Tom Cavanagh as Dan Dorian - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
Chris Elliott as Peter McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Ben Stiller as Tony Wonder - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Fred Willard as Hank McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Henry Winkler as Barry Zuckerkorn - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Georgia Engel as Pat McDougall - Everybody Loves Raymond, recurring
(CBS)
Judy Greer as Kitty Sanchez - Arrested Development, recurring (Fox)
Sharon Lawrence as Maisy Gibbons - Desperate Housewives, recurring
(ABC)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Maggie Lizer - Arrested Development, recurring
(Fox)
Julianna Margulies as Neena Broderick - Scrubs, recurring (NBC)
COMEDY WRITING
Marc Cherry - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Mitchell Hurwitz & Chuck Martin - Arrested Development, "My Hand to
God" (Fox)
John Levenstein - Arrested Development, "Good Grief" (Fox)
B.J. Novak - The Office, "Diversity Day" (NBC)
Philip Rosenthal, Ray Romano, Tucker Cawley, Lew Schneider, Steve
Skrovan, Jeremy Stevens, Mike Royce, Aaron Shure, Tom Caltabiano &
Leslie Caveny - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
COMEDY DIRECTING
Adam Bernstein - Scrubs, "My Life in Four Cameras" (NBC)
Gary Halvorson - Everybody Loves Raymond, "Finale" (CBS)
Peter Lauer - Arrested Development, "Sad Sack" (Fox)
Charles McDougall - Desperate Housewives, "Pilot" (ABC)
Amy Sherman-Palladino - Gilmore Girls, "Wedding Bell Blues" (WB)
SF SERIES
The 4400 (USA)
Alias (ABC)
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Lost (ABC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
SF LEAD ACTOR
Clancy Brown as Brother Justin Crowe - Carnivale (HBO)
Matthew Fox as Jack - Lost (ABC)
Anthony Michael Hall as Johnny Smith - The Dead Zone (USA)
Edward James Olmos as Cmdr. William Adama - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Michael Vartan as Michel Vaughn - Alias (ABC)
SF LEAD ACTRESS
Jolene Blalock as Subcmdr. T'Pol - Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Evangeline Lilly as Kate - Lost (ABC)
Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
Amber Tamblyn as Joan Girardi - Joan of Arcadia (CBS)
SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Josh Holloway as Sawyer - Lost (ABC)
Victor Garber as Jack Bristow - Alias (ABC)
Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
Ron Rifkin as Arvin Sloane - Alias (ABC)
Jake Weber as Joe Dubois - Medium (NBC)
SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Laura Harris as Daisy Adair - Dead Like Me (Showtime)
Tricia Helfer as Number Six - Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Yunjin Kim as Sun - Lost (ABC)
Mia Maestro as Nadia Santos - Alias (ABC)
Katee Sackhoff as Lt. Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci-Fi)
SF GUEST ACTOR
Jeffrey Combs as Cmdr. Shran - Star Trek: Enterprise, recurring (UPN)
Joel Grey as Another Mr. Sloane/Ned Bolger - Alias, recurring (ABC)
Richard Hatch as Tom Zarek - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Arliss Howard as Kenneth Push - Medium, recurring (NBC)
William Mapother as Ethan - Lost, recurring (ABC)
SF GUEST ACTRESS
Claudia Black as Vara Malduran - Stargate SG-1, recurring (Sci-Fi)
Julie Bowen as Sarah - Lost, "Do No Harm" (ABC)
L. Scott Caldwell as Rose - Lost, recurring (ABC)
Lena Olin as Irina Derevko - Alias, "Before the Flood" (ABC)
Sarah Wynter as Rebecca Caldwell - The Dead Zone, recurring (USA)
SF WRITING
J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Richard Haetm - Tru Calling, "Last Good Day" (Fox)
Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse - Lost, "Deus Ex Machina" (ABC)
Ronald D. Moore - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Mike Sussman - Star Trek: Enterprise, "In a Mirror Darkly, Part 1"
(UPN)
SF DIRECTING
J.J. Abrams - Lost, "Pilot" (ABC)
Jack Bender - Lost, "Walkabout" (ABC)
Ken Olin - Alias, "Authorized Personnel Only, Part 1" (ABC)
Michael Rymer - Battlestar Galactica, "33" (Sci-Fi)
Scott Winant - Carnivale, "New Canaan, CA" (HBO)
TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Lackawanna Blues (HBO)
The Life and Death of Peter Sellers (HBO)
The Magic of Ordinary Days (CBS)
The Office Special (BBC America)
Reefer Madness (Showtime)
VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Mad TV (Fox)
Saturday Night Live (NBC)
PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
David Letterman - Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Conan O'Brien - Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Maya Rudolph - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
The Amazing Race (CBS)
America's Next Top Model (UPN)
Big Brother (CBS)
Jeopardy! (syndicated)
Survivor (CBS)
NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
60 Minutes (CBS)
Ebert & Roeper (syndicated)
Frontline (PBS)
Meet the Press (NBC)
The Seinfeld Story (NBC)
ANIMATED PROGRAM
Family Guy (Fox)
Kim Possible (Disney)
King of the Hill (Fox)
The Simpsons (Fox)
South Park (Comedy Central)
BEST NEW SERIES
Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi)
Desperate Housewives (ABC)
House (Fox)
Lost (ABC)
Veronica Mars (UPN)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
24 (Fox)
Alias (ABC)
Gilmore Girls (WB)
Scrubs (NBC)
Star Trek: Enterprise (UPN)
"The Worst":
WORST SERIES
7th Heaven (WB)
American Idol (Fox)
The Apprentice (NBC)
The Simple Life (Fox)
Yes, Dear (CBS)
WORST PERFORMER
Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
The Next SCOTUS Nominee, Ian J. Ball
holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Pope John Hole III) wrote:
> "The Worst":
> WORST SERIES
> Yes, Dear (CBS)
>
> WORST PERFORMER
> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
Hrmpf!
--
CNN, FNC, MSNBC - I'M READY FOR MY CLOSE-UP!!
"It is a decision of the Supreme Court... So this is almost
as if God has spoken." - Nancy Pelosi (on KELO), 06/30/05
http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/TV-Blog/
Bateau
do. You Americans really produce a whole lot of stupid bullshit. How
could you even nominate Desperate Housewives? Don't you guys know when
you're being assfucked?
"Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>*** 11TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
<snip>
William George Ferguson
<ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <28701-42...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>,
> holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Pope John Hole III) wrote:
>
>> "The Worst":
>> WORST SERIES
>> Yes, Dear (CBS)
>>
>> WORST PERFORMER
>> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
>
>Hrmpf!
To quote Lewis Carroll, "He only does it to annoy, because he knows it
teases."
--
HERBERT
1996 - 1997
Beloved Mascot
Delightful Meal
He fed the Pack
A little
Rob Jensen
<wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:59:03 GMT, "The Next SCOTUS Nominee, Ian J. Ball"
><ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>In article <28701-42...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>,
>> holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Pope John Hole III) wrote:
>>
>>> "The Worst":
>>> WORST SERIES
>>> Yes, Dear (CBS)
>>>
>>> WORST PERFORMER
>>> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
>>
>>Hrmpf!
>
>To quote Lewis Carroll, "He only does it to annoy, because he knows it
>teases."
This only works when Mischa Barton isn't the worst actor on scripted
television. Which is, to say, as long as The O.C. continues to employ
her, she's going to continue to be the Worst Performer.
The Next SCOTUS Nominee, Ian J. Ball
Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:16:11 -0700, William George Ferguson
> <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:59:03 GMT, "The Next SCOTUS Nominee, Ian J. Ball"
> ><ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>In article <28701-42...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>,
> >> holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Pope John Hole III) wrote:
> >>>
> >>> WORST PERFORMER
> >>> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
> >>
> >>Hrmpf!
> >
> >To quote Lewis Carroll, "He only does it to annoy, because he knows
> >it teases."
>
> This only works when Mischa Barton isn't the worst actor on scripted
> television. Which is, to say, as long as The O.C. continues to employ
> her, she's going to continue to be the Worst Performer.
Please see: Reba McEntire. And then get back to us.
Joshua Kreitzer
This posting includes the final ballot for the 2004-2005 Ratty Awards
from the rec.arts.tv newsgroup as compiled by Robert Licuria. There
are 3 days left to vote; the voting deadline is Sunday, July 10, 2005,
Rob Jensen
Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <1120756615.919f615568385552f130866f03175e94@teranews>,
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:16:11 -0700, William George Ferguson
>> <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:59:03 GMT, "The Next SCOTUS Nominee, Ian J. Ball"
>> ><ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article <28701-42...@storefull-3277.bay.webtv.net>,
>> >> holef...@webtv.net (Mr. Pope John Hole III) wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> WORST PERFORMER
>> >>> Mischa Barton as Marissa Cooper - The O.C. (Fox)
>> >>
>> >>Hrmpf!
>> >
>> >To quote Lewis Carroll, "He only does it to annoy, because he knows
>> >it teases."
>>
>> This only works when Mischa Barton isn't the worst actor on scripted
>> television. Which is, to say, as long as The O.C. continues to employ
>> her, she's going to continue to be the Worst Performer.
>
>Please see: Reba McEntire. And then get back to us.
Reba's not anywhere near as bad an actress as Mischa Barton. Pretty
much Dolly-Parton-level-bad, which means she gets by on her
better-than-Dolly looks and Suth'n accent.
Mischa Barton doesn't even have looks or a wacky accent to distract
from the fact that she's never expressed an honest emotional beat in
her life.
Matt Messina
>> Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
>> Terry O'Quinn as Locke - Lost (ABC)
>Despite the fact that I like Sawyer more as a character, what O'Quinn
>did with Locke this year was nothing short of amazing. O'Quinn and Hugh
>Laurie were acting rings around everyone else this season.
I'd say the entire cast of _Deadwood_ was acting rings around everyone
else this season.
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