According to this website (below the ABC write-up), a contestant on the
show (Sienna Kestrel) says what's taped during the two weeks and what
you see on 'Wife Swap' after post-production ISN'T the same thing. Read on:
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11/07/05
ABC.com website:
Monday, November 7, 8/7c
"Heiss/Kestrel"
A woman who does everything and more for her three super-indulged
children and her "man-of-the-house" husband swaps lives with an
energy-conserving, hippie mom whose family does all housework together
and whose husband likes to wear a skirt. [TVPG]
http://abc.go.com/primetime/wifeswap/index.html
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The whole "experience" is an exggeration and a hoax. What was filmed,
let alone what will be shown is, NOT representative in any truthful way
of the life my family leads.
Sienna, 'Ash & Ian Kestrel
read on for some clarifications....
WIFE SWAP (11/7; FULL)
Air Date: 11/7/05 (MONDAY)
Time Slot: 8:00 PM-9:00 PM EST on ABC
Episode Title: "Heiss/Kestrel"
A WOMAN WHO DOES EVERYTHING AND MORE FOR HER THREE SUPER-INDULGED
CHILDREN AND HER “MAN-OF-THE-HOUSE” HUSBAND SWAPS LIVES WITH AN
ENERGY-CONSERVING, HIPPIE MOM WHOSE FAMILY DOES ALL HOUSEWORK TOGETHER
AND WHOSE HUSBAND LIKES TO WEAR A SKIRT, ON “WIFE SWAP”
This week in “Heiss/Kestrel,” a devoted housewife and mother who does
all the cooking and cleaning for her overindulged teenagers and husband
in their modern appliance-outfitted home swaps lives with an
eco-friendly hippie mom who detests materialism
(we're huge materialists by our definition, however we find the
fetishizing of consumerism distasteful, not detestful...)
and whose family of three shares household chores and works together to
keep their meager
mea·ger also mea·gre ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mgr)
adj.
Deficient in quantity, fullness, or extent; scanty.
Deficient in richness, fertility, or vigor; feeble
This word "meager" does not descibe anything about our life
household afloat, on ABC’s “Wife Swap” -- the critically-acclaimed,
unscripted
(except where the phone calls comes in daily from the offices and one is
told what words to say so they can re-shoot the "scenes"...)
reality show that takes us into the intimate heart of the American
family home to reveal the extraordinarily different ways families live
-- MONDAY, NOVEMBER 7 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.
Each week from across the country, two families with very different
values are chosen to take part in a two-week-long challenge. The wives
from these two families exchange husbands, children and lives but not
bedrooms to discover just what it’s like to live another woman’s life.
It’s a mind-blowing experiment that often ends up changing their lives
forever.
Susan Heiss (49), who lives in an upscale neighborhood in Rhode Island,
does all the cooking and cleaning herself for her loud, boisterous
Italian-American family.
(don't forget the maid service that comes in regularly...)
Her larger than life husband, “Big” Ed (50), runs his own business and
is truly king of the castle. He likes his nine TVs and every modern
convenience money can buy. He is also used to having everything the way
he likes it, thanks to Susan. The family’s three teenagers, Jenna,
Britney and son Ryan, are equally indulged by their mother and would
never dream of raising a hand to help her do anything.
(they do help out, not as much as I believe they should, but they do
their own laundry and feed the dogs, garbage, etc. )
For the Heiss family members, their wishes are Susan’s commands.
Susan ventures to the energy-conserving Virginia home of dreadlocked
couple Sienna (34) and 'Ash (24) Kestrel, and Sienna’s
(OUR son!)
12 year-old son, Ian. Not only do young purple haired Ian and his
skirt-wearing stepfather, 'Ash, share in the housework, they also team
up with Sienna to make their living by diving through local dumpsters
for food
(this is bullsh*t! We have never made any living or money of any sort
from getting food out of a dumpster! We sell plants, herbs and baked
goods made from ingredients that come from our organic garden at the
local farmer's market. Our kitchen has passed the State of VA Dept. of
Health inspection. What kind of damage do you think this absurd
statement is going to do to our livelihood damn it.)
and cast-off furniture.
(We make our livings through portraiture modeling and our own crafts
business, Kestrelishisms LLC, as well as refurbishing cast off
collectables for Ebay and flea markets.)
The family do all they can to make certain their income stays below the
poverty level.
(We do nothing of the sort. Our income this past year has been below
poverty level which does not mean it has ever been before or will stay
that way, or that we DO anything to keep ourselves in "poverty"!)
For the Kestrels, shunning
("redefining" is the accurate word here)
the American dream is a way of life.
In the first week of the swap, Susan is appalled when she must join her
new family to ask for handouts of food at a local bakery and to dumpster
dive
(Susan never dumpster dove nor were there hand-outs at a local bakery.
Our friends who own an area anarchist info shop and coffee house gave
'Ash a wrapped sandwich plate that was bought by the crew, and touted as
a "day-old" plate, for the camera's benefit to make a point about
wastefullness) (Not that we don't but they wouldn't let us really do it
on camera for insurance purposes..)
Meanwhile, astonished Sienna spends hours cooking and cleaning for her
new family while they ignore her and party all night in their Jacuzzi.
In week two of the swap, when the wives change the rules, Susan brings
her new family into the 21st century by not only installing new
appliances, including a dishwasher,
(which never even worked in our home. Another conspicous waste of money
to rent multiple appliances that wouldn't fit into our electric sockets!)
but also by telling hippie 'Ash to get a haircut and a job.
(Where he made LESS money in 6 hours dispensing product at minimum wage
than a half day at work at the art studio or 20 minutes of selling our
crafts and juggling toys while dancing with and teaching children at
local festivals and craft fairs...)
Sienna, tired of her overindulged new family, bans the use of all
electrical appliances at home,
(Not true, I suggested, as I don't enforce rules on others, that they
give up the dishwasher, clothes dryer, TV/video games and hair dryers
for 3 days. All other appliances were unmentioned. They did none of it.)
makes Big Ed wear a skirt to get in touch with his feminine side
(ABC forced that issue on Ed without me, directly voilating an agreement
Ed and I had made, me=no shaving my legs, Ed=no skirt wearing)
and forces
(No forcing at any time...)
the family to work together to cook meals and wash dishes. (although it
was a challenge...)
At the end of the swap, when the couples reunite and come face to face
with one another, will the powwow be, according to Big Ed, a “bada bing”
or a “bada bust”?
“Wife Swap” is an RDF Media production. It was created by Stephen
Lambert and is executive-produced by Lambert, Jenny Crowther, Wendy Roth
of RDF Media (“Faking It” and “Junkyard Wars”) and Michael Davies of
Embassy Row (“Who Wants to be a Millionaire”). Stef Wagstaffe is the
co-executive producer
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The experience was basically horrific, we have been in conflict with the
office folx the entire time and there's so much more to the story than I
have energy to post here. The crews on both sides however, were ALL
great, supportive people. We certainly would have walked had we not
developed some solid relationships with the crew. My advice on this...
If you can take 2 weeks of insane aggravation that will only further
strenghthen your resolve to life your life in the way you're already
doing it, then take Disney's stupid money and put it forth to advance
the movement your working with.
Start jail funds, buy those solar panels, share it with your community,
pay off your debts, open an info shop, build a cabin in the woods where
you never have to deal with the media again...
If you're going to do it, think like them, use soundbites and advance
the memes. Plan ahead more than we did and don't get intimidated or
frustrated at the pushiness of the format.
I still think it's better that intellegent & articulate antipreneurs &
activists go on shows like this and portray a sensible way of life.
Seems a better idea than to let ABC/Disney find the fringe folx who are
not really representative of anything radical, but claim to be living
"alternatively" become the spokepeople of any movements.
What is somewhat heartening to me is that they are able to consistantly
find at least some alterna-families out there doing interesting things
with their politics and lives. perhaps it will start to hit people on
123 Smallmind Rd in Xtainville, KY that we all exist in greater numbers
than co realized and this country is not as homogenous as co thinks.
Dunno, I gistill have a little faith left after this daymare. If anyone
here ends up seriously considering this show or one like it, either 'Ash
or I would be willing to fill you in more on our take of things.
be well, become better
Sienna Kestrel
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20051025150124576
--- No kidding. Shocking. Positively shocking.
> What is somewhat heartening to me is that they are able to consistantly
> find at least some alterna-families out there doing interesting things
> with their politics and lives. perhaps it will start to hit people on
> 123 Smallmind Rd in Xtainville, KY that we all exist in greater numbers
> than co realized and this country is not as homogenous as co thinks.
I'm not interested in anything that anti-Christian bigots have to say.
They just discredited themselves. They should thank Wicca (or whatever
it is they pray to) that their anti-Christian bigotry wasn't shown on
the show, or else they would have received so many death threats by now
that we would be reading in the newspapers that they are under police
protection.
Fuck 'em.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
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Steven L. wrote:
> Taylor wrote:
>
>> What is somewhat heartening to me is that they are able to
>> consistantly find at least some alterna-families out there doing
>> interesting things with their politics and lives. perhaps it will
>> start to hit people on 123 Smallmind Rd in Xtainville, KY that we all
>> exist in greater numbers than co realized and this country is not as
>> homogenous as co thinks.
>
>
> I'm not interested in anything that anti-Christian bigots have to say.
> They just discredited themselves. They should thank Wicca (or whatever
> it is they pray to) that their anti-Christian bigotry wasn't shown on
> the show, or else they would have received so many death threats by now
> that we would be reading in the newspapers that they are under police
> protection.
>
> Fuck 'em.
>
>
It's always the same on Wife Swap, though. The "star" of the show is the
rich, conservative mother and her entire family. When they do the "In
the weeks since the swap...", they always go for the poor, liberal
family first and then voiceover "...and in the Smith household (the $$$
fam), there have been even BIGGER changes...". But of course, the trade
off is that you come off looking like total bastards.
I find that reasoning so incredible. You seem to be saying that Christians,
in response to anti-Christian behavior, would be making death threats to
them. I don't recall Jesus taking arms against the Romans, and I certainly
do recall something about turning the other cheek.
>
> Fuck 'em.
Peace be with you too.
>I don't know if this is true or not (???), but...
>
>According to this website (below the ABC write-up), a contestant on the
>show (Sienna Kestrel) says what's taped during the two weeks and what
>you see on 'Wife Swap' after post-production ISN'T the same thing. Read on:
ye olde "i was edited that way" excuse makes yet another comeback...
>> I'm not interested in anything that anti-Christian bigots have to
>> say. They just discredited themselves. They should thank Wicca
>> (or whatever it is they pray to) that their anti-Christian
>> bigotry wasn't shown on the show, or else they would have
>> received so many death threats by now that we would be reading in
>> the newspapers that they are under police protection. [Steven L.]
>>
>
> I find that reasoning so incredible. You seem to be saying that
> Christians, in response to anti-Christian behavior, would be
> making death threats to them. I don't recall Jesus taking arms
> against the Romans, and I certainly do recall something about
> turning the other cheek.
>
>> Fuck 'em.
>
> Peace be with you too.
Well, this _is_ the same guy who said, of fictional characters in
the show "Lost,"
> When Susan told him she was having an affair with her rich
> white boss, Michael did not track him down and beat her white
> loverboy to a pulp as he deserved to be.
--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Btw, there's a prominent story in the Bible wherein Jesus beats the shit
out of a bunch of people. The moneychangers in the temple.
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Was he high on crystal-meth at the time?
> I'm not interested in anything that anti-Christian bigots have to say.
I usually try to ignore pro-Christian bigots as well.
> They should thank Wicca (or whatever
> it is they pray to)
Nice.
> that their anti-Christian bigotry wasn't shown on
> the show, or else they would have received so many death threats by now
> that we would be reading in the newspapers that they are under police
> protection.
I see that you don't trust the Christians to follow the lead of
Christ, either. At least we agree on one thing.
BTW, some of us non-Christians don't need police protection. We
legally carry concealed to protect ourselves from rabid, uneducated,
hateful followers of mainstream religions.
Live and let live, brother.
--
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John McCain 2008 + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
Did it twice, didn't he? (Or am I just remembering him doing it once
each in different books?)
--
Jeremy Billones
"It's a place used the world over where people can come together to bitch about
movies and share pornography together." This is a much more sophisticated idea
of the Net than we find in high-tech cyberthrillers, where the Net is a place
that makes your computer beep a lot. - Roger Ebert on "Jay & Silent Bob..."
> What is somewhat heartening to me is that they are able to
> consistantly find at least some alterna-families out there doing
> interesting things with their politics and lives
. . . to make fun of. To be fair, though, they poke fun of folks on
both sides of the fence, though showing a white-collar guy who works
too much isn't quite the slam as the barefooted hippie who dumpster
dives, and whose kids sleep in their parents' room.
>From an idiot:
> They should thank Wicca (or whatever it is they pray to) that their
> anti-Christian bigotry wasn't shown on the show, or else they
> would have received so many death threats by now that we
> would be reading in the newspapers that they are under police
> protection.
That's a clear sign your religion SUCKS: when somebody says your God
doesn't exist, and you threaten to KILL THEM.
> In article <dkrt49$g2r$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
> Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
> > Btw, there's a prominent story in the Bible wherein Jesus beats the
> > shit out of a bunch of people. The moneychangers in the temple.
To my recollection, he didn't beat anyone. He overturned their tables
and drove out the cattle and such.
Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
I thought he used a Glock.
FDR wrote:
>
> "Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3tf440F...@individual.net...
> > Jeremy Billones wrote:
> >
> >> In article <dkrt49$g2r$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
> >> Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
> >> > Btw, there's a prominent story in the Bible wherein Jesus beats the
> >> > shit out of a bunch of people. The moneychangers in the temple.
> >
> > To my recollection, he didn't beat anyone. He overturned their tables
> > and drove out the cattle and such.
>
> I thought he used a Glock.
How did Mel Gibson miss that opportunity?
C.
**
Crystal meth?!!! Are you serious? Homeboy's blood was *wine*! He must
have been wasted 100% of the time! (Thank you to "The Family Guy.")
John said he had a whip.
>>>> Btw, there's a prominent story in the Bible wherein Jesus beats
>>>> the shit out of a bunch of people. The moneychangers in the
>>>> temple.
>> To my recollection, he didn't beat anyone. He overturned their
>> tables and drove out the cattle and such.
>
> John said he had a whip.
<Hedley_Lamarr> "Kinky..." </Hedley_Lamarr>
> In article <3tf440F...@individual.net>,
> Default User <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Jeremy Billones wrote:
> >
> >> In article <dkrt49$g2r$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
> >> Michael Alan Chary <mch...@panix.com> wrote:
> >> > Btw, there's a prominent story in the Bible wherein Jesus beats
> the >> > shit out of a bunch of people. The moneychangers in the
> temple.
> >
> > To my recollection, he didn't beat anyone. He overturned their
> > tables and drove out the cattle and such.
>
> John said he had a whip.
Which he used on the animals:
John 2:15 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
He made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both
sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and
overturned their tables.