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Jericho, Kansas and the mountains

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needles

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Sep 25, 2006, 6:30:11 PM9/25/06
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It was not made clear as to just were in Kansas, the town of Jericho is
supposed to be.
But were ever it is, the towns folk of Jericho can see snow covered
mountains on the distant horizon.
Which has me puzzled no end, because the highest mounting in Kansa is "Mount
Sunflower" and this mountain is only 4,039 feet tall.
To the north of the Kansas state line is Nebraska, with its highest mountain
"Panorama Point" which stands at 5,424 feet tall.
To the east of the Kansas state line is Missouri, with its highest mountain
"Taum Sauk mt." which stands at 1,772 feet tall.
To the south of the Kansas state line is Oklahoma, with its highest mountain
"Black Mesa" which stands at 4,973 feet tall.
To the west of the Kansas state line is Colorado, with its highest mountain
"Mount Elbert" which stands at 14.433 feet tall.
Now since our hero drove from Denver, Colorado to Jericho, Kansas, almost
due east, that would put his home town some were along Inter State Highway
70.


Steven L.

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Sep 25, 2006, 7:39:43 PM9/25/06
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needles wrote:
> It was not made clear as to just were in Kansas, the town of Jericho is
> supposed to be.

Fortunately, CBS has now made available an "official" map of Jericho KS:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/jericho/digital/images/map.jpg

You will notice I-70 and State Route 83 both go into Jericho. If you
take a map of "real" Kansas, you can find where those roads intersect
and that's where Jericho is supposed to be. It looks to be maybe 100
miles east of the Colorado border:

http://tinyurl.com/ltygk

What they're seeing from Jericho are the mountains in nearby Colorado.


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BTR1701

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Sep 25, 2006, 8:01:15 PM9/25/06
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In article <3NZRg.1369$Y24....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:

> What they're seeing from Jericho are the
> mountains in nearby Colorado.

Which is pretty much impossible.

Ar Q

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Sep 25, 2006, 10:15:22 PM9/25/06
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"BTR1701" <btr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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I think we need alt.tv.jericho. There are too many Jericho posts here.


BTR1701

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Sep 25, 2006, 10:28:41 PM9/25/06
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In article <_20Sg.2522$o71....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Ar Q" <Arthu...@hottmail.com> wrote:

And who determines how many is "too many"? You?

And if it bothers you so much, you can always set your newsreader to
kill any thread with "Jericho" in the subject. Of course that would be
both too easy and would rob you of the opportunity to needlessly
complain about trivialities.

Ar Q

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Sep 26, 2006, 12:04:15 AM9/26/06
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"BTR1701" <btr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:btr1702-87080B...@news.giganews.com...

> In article <_20Sg.2522$o71....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "Ar Q" <Arthu...@hottmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "BTR1701" <btr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:btr1702-43105C...@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <3NZRg.1369$Y24....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> > > "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What they're seeing from Jericho are the
> > > > mountains in nearby Colorado.
> > >
> > > Which is pretty much impossible.
> >
> > I think we need alt.tv.jericho. There are too many
> > Jericho posts here.
>
> And who determines how many is "too many"? You?
>

It is a good thing.


Tony Calguire

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Sep 26, 2006, 1:20:35 AM9/26/06
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"Ar Q" <Arthu...@hottmail.com> wrote in
news:_20Sg.2522$o71....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:

>
> I think we need alt.tv.jericho. There are too many Jericho posts here.
>
>


No... just too many posts about how close Jericho is to Denver, Colorado...
as if the entire premise of the series depended on how believably they
portray various distances.

But, like I said in another thread, I can buy that a large mushroom cloud
over Denver or Colorado City just might be visible from western Kansas.

Steven L.

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Sep 26, 2006, 2:43:32 PM9/26/06
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It's too early for that. NGs for specific shows like alt.tv.lost,
alt.tv.survivor, etc. get launched after several episodes have already
aired and it's clear that interest in the show has remained high (or is
even increasing).

But so far, we've only had the premiere of "Jericho." Many premieres
have generated a lot of "buzz" and then flamed out soon after:
"Threshold" and "Commander-in-Chief" come to mind. Let's wait a month
or so, and see if we're still discussing the show a lot by then. If so,
then yes, it will be time to think about launching alt.tv.jericho.

Ian J. Ball

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Sep 27, 2006, 4:25:00 PM9/27/06
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In article <oxeSg.1653$Y24....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:

> Ar Q wrote:
> > "BTR1701" <btr...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:btr1702-43105C...@news.giganews.com...
> >> In article <3NZRg.1369$Y24....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> >> "Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What they're seeing from Jericho are the
> >>> mountains in nearby Colorado.
> >> Which is pretty much impossible.
> >
> > I think we need alt.tv.jericho. There are too many Jericho posts here.
>
> It's too early for that. NGs for specific shows like alt.tv.lost,
> alt.tv.survivor, etc. get launched after several episodes have already
> aired and it's clear that interest in the show has remained high (or is
> even increasing).

Actually, you're not supposed to do it until the show has been renewed
for a second season - that's how it was with alt.tv.veronica-mars, and
alt.tv.house-md I believe.

So we're a long way away from alt.tv.jericho...

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http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/TV-Blog/

curmudgeon

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Sep 27, 2006, 5:05:27 PM9/27/06
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Denver, Colorado, has the nick-name "the Mile High City" another nick-name
is "Where the Rockies meet the Plains"
Now my question to you is this, just how far away is the Colorado - Kansas
state line from the city of Denver ?
To the west of Denver is the Rocky mountains and to the east are the great
plains.

1. 50 miles ?

2. 100 miles ?

3. 200 miles ?

4. none of the above, if so, then just how far away is it ?


"There are no enemies in science just anomalies"


Brian Thorn

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Sep 27, 2006, 5:57:52 PM9/27/06
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:05:27 -0600, "curmudgeon"
<britica...@bresnan.net> wrote:

>Now my question to you is this, just how far away is the Colorado - Kansas
>state line from the city of Denver ?

>1. 50 miles ?


>
>2. 100 miles ?
>
>3. 200 miles ?
>
>4. none of the above, if so, then just how far away is it ?

About 170 miles.

I haven't driven from Denver to the Kansas border, but I have driven
from Colorado Springs to the Kansas border. Flatlands to gently
rolling hills, certainly no mountains. Pike's Peak is right there on
the eastern fringe (the Front Range) of the Rockies. Everything east
is hills declining into the plains.

Brian

Anim8rFSK

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Sep 27, 2006, 6:15:50 PM9/27/06
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In article <ijball***NO-SPAM***-C00374.132...@news1.ucsd.edu>,

Speaking of the mountains, they're showing psuedo bas relief maps of
Colorado on TV today because of the school hostages, and it looks like
the entire right half of the state is flat as a pancake, and the
mountains start rather abruptly right in the middle.

jayembee

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Sep 27, 2006, 7:28:59 PM9/27/06
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"Ian J. Ball" <ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:

>> It's too early for that. NGs for specific shows like alt.tv.lost,
>> alt.tv.survivor, etc. get launched after several episodes have
>> already aired and it's clear that interest in the show has remained
>> high (or is even increasing).
>
> Actually, you're not supposed to do it until the show has been renewed
> for a second season - that's how it was with alt.tv.veronica-mars, and
> alt.tv.house-md I believe.

That's the SOP, but I don't think it's a hard and fast rule, and there
have been any number of show-specific alt groups that have not conformed.
Like alt.tv.firefly, and even alt.tv.farscape, which started while the
show was in its first season.

-- jayembee

Casey McDonald's Guidance Counsellor, Ian J. Ball

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Sep 27, 2006, 10:00:22 PM9/27/06
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In article <Xns984BC5D875D9E...@140.99.99.130>,
jayembee <jayembe...@snurcher.com> wrote:

> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> It's too early for that. NGs for specific shows like alt.tv.lost,
> >> alt.tv.survivor, etc. get launched after several episodes have
> >> already aired and it's clear that interest in the show has remained
> >> high (or is even increasing).
> >
> > Actually, you're not supposed to do it until the show has been renewed
> > for a second season - that's how it was with alt.tv.veronica-mars, and
> > alt.tv.house-md I believe.
>
> That's the SOP, but I don't think it's a hard and fast rule,

It's a 'hard and fast rule' that's often been ignored.

> and there
> have been any number of show-specific alt groups that have not conformed.
> Like alt.tv.firefly, and even alt.tv.farscape, which started while the
> show was in its first season.

Yes, which leads to newsgroups like alt.tv.harsh-realm... :(

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(episode 1.3 (#104), "The Party")

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Rob Jensen

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Sep 28, 2006, 10:14:44 AM9/28/06
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:57:52 -0500, Brian Thorn <btho...@cox.net>
wrote:

But we're talking about a Kansas in a universe like Smallville, where
there are mountains in Kansas.

Also, I think it's plausible until otherwise noted, to place Jericho
somewhere around the lower corner or upper corner of the eastern
border of Kansas, far away from the likely-also-nuked KC, but on a
diagonal from Denver that would make the 200 mile distance plausible.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: In the movie, only boy hobbits travel to Mount
Doom, but that's only because the girls went to do something
even more dangerous.
GIRL: What?
LORELAI: Have you ever heard of a Brazilian Bikini Wax?

jayembee

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Sep 28, 2006, 4:35:38 PM9/28/06
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Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:

> Also, I think it's plausible until otherwise noted, to place Jericho
> somewhere around the lower corner or upper corner of the eastern
> border of Kansas, far away from the likely-also-nuked KC, but on a
> diagonal from Denver that would make the 200 mile distance plausible.

It's been otherwise noted. Based on a highway mileage sign we see
Jake passing in the first episode [1], and assuming that he's on I-70,
I worked out the location as being somewhere around where Grainfield,
Kansas is in the real world. According to the map on CBS's Jericho
webpage, I was pretty damn close.

So it's definitely at the western end of Kansas.

[1] The sign said that it was 47 miles to Jericho, and 362 miles to
Kansas City.

-- jayembee

Rob Jensen

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Sep 30, 2006, 6:28:04 PM9/30/06
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Okay, so are they trying to imply that Jericho is in the extreme
eastern foothills of the Rockies or something?

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

jayembee

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Sep 30, 2006, 8:21:33 PM9/30/06
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Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:

>> So it's definitely at the western end of Kansas.
>

> Okay, so are they trying to imply that Jericho is in the extreme
> eastern foothills of the Rockies or something?

Well, not really. You can infer that, but since the extreme eastern
part of the Rockies are on the west side of Denver...

-- jayembee

Rob Jensen

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Oct 1, 2006, 12:29:43 AM10/1/06
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Jeez, no wonder I fell asleep all the way through Kansas as I was
moving to Missouri two years ago. MO is, like, the Grand Canyon
compared to KS.

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