HOMICIDE? Huh?
Denis McGrath
Tonight on Homicide: Life on the Street, they dealt with the departure of Jon
Polito, Detective Crosetti. The plot (which is still unspooling as I write
this) concerns a question as to whether Crosetti killed himself.
That's fine...except that in the premiere episode of this season, they
established that Crosetti was already dead, and had been for months.
Which would be fine...they just went back and told an old story...a story
they decided wouldn't work well for the season premiere...for the premiere
they'd need more of a bang. so they did the serial killer series.
The problem is that in one scene, Pembleton talks about how he hasn't been in
a church for a long time. Bayliss says, "you were in a church in the serial
killer" case.
So...is this a weird inconsistency? Or are they referring to another serial
killer case?
I don't get it.
DMc
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Michael Morris
On 3 Dec 1994, Denis McGrath wrote:
> Okay...this I don't understand.
>
> Tonight on Homicide: Life on the Street, they dealt with the departure of Jon
> Polito, Detective Crosetti. The plot (which is still unspooling as I write
> this) concerns a question as to whether Crosetti killed himself.
>
> That's fine...except that in the premiere episode of this season, they
> established that Crosetti was already dead, and had been for months.
>
Actually, during the 3-part serial killer story that started the season,
everyone was waiting for Crosetti to get back from vacation. The
weirdness occurred in the following episode, when Meldrick meets Emma
Zuhl and he tells her that Crosetti is dead, despite the fact that it was
never mentioned previously.
>
> The problem is that in one scene, Pembleton talks about how he hasn't
been in > a church for a long time. Bayliss says, "you were in a church
in the serial > killer" case.
>
> So...is this a weird inconsistency? Or are they referring to another serial
> killer case?
>
What's weird is how inconsistent H:LOTS is in showing episodes in order.
In the 1st season, there were recap scenes shown at the beginning of an
episode with crucial evidence from the Adena Watson case (involving a
diagram of rowhousing rooftops) that was taken from an episode shown a few
weeks later.
Basic chronology for this season (episode sequence in ()):
(1-3) White Gloves killer
(6) Crosetti's death
(4-5) Bayliss & Emma
>
> I don't get it.
>
> DMc
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Michael Morris
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Alan Sepinwall
Denis McGrath <dmcg...@tvo.org> wrote:
>Okay...this I don't understand.
>
>Tonight on Homicide: Life on the Street, they dealt with the departure of Jon
>Polito, Detective Crosetti. The plot (which is still unspooling as I write
>this) concerns a question as to whether Crosetti killed himself.
>
>That's fine...except that in the premiere episode of this season, they
>established that Crosetti was already dead, and had been for months.
Here's the story: the serial killer storyline was always supposed to
start the season. In those three episodes, any reference to Crosetti had
to do with his going on vacation to Atlantic City.
The first episode after those three was supposed to be the one we saw
last night, which would then have been followed by those two crappy Emma
Zoul episodes (both of which had references to Crosetti's death).
However, NBC, in its infinite stupidity, decided that for the November
sweeps, they'd rather show two episodes that emphasize kinky sex (Emma
Zoul) rather than suicide (Crosetti). Of course, the reordering made
absolutely no sense narratively, but do you think NBC really cares?
I was *very* impressed by last night's episode, btw. Maybe the show ain't
dead yet, after all.
-Alan Sepinwall
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Deborah F. Carter
thanks for the comments about NBC's switcheroo. I was wondering what the
problem was.
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Jol E Padgett
:> Okay...this I don't understand.
:>
:> Tonight on Homicide: Life on the Street, they dealt with the departure of Jon
:> Polito, Detective Crosetti. The plot (which is still unspooling as I write
:> this) concerns a question as to whether Crosetti killed himself.
:>
:> That's fine...except that in the premiere episode of this season, they
:> established that Crosetti was already dead, and had been for months.
In the premiere episode, it was established that Crosetti was on vacation
in Atlantic City, not dead. But the last two episodes did
have him dead.
There was a discussion on the Sweeps-month usage of these two episodes,
which were of lower quality that H:LOTS usually reaches. This last
episode was better and Pembleton's Salute at the end really hit me.
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Jol (jpad...@cais.com) Washington DC
Matt Friedman
dfca...@umich.edu (Deborah F. Carter) wrote:
> Alan,
>
> thanks for the comments about NBC's switcheroo. I was wondering what the
> problem was.
>
> --
>
I admit I was a bit confused. But I was reminded of a miniseries NBC ran
in 1978 called LOOSE CHANGE. They ran the third episode before the second.
Last week, instead of showing 100 years of Hollywood westerns, they showed
(at least on our affiliate) some stupid TV movie. It's just NBC again.
However, this HLOS episode made up for the crappy ones with Emma Zoul. The
last scene was superb, with Pemberton in his dress blues and the
Saxophonist playing Coltrane (can't quite remember the name of the tune...
something with RAIN in the title but it doesn't come to me.)
Marlene
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Matt Ackeret
>Polito, Detective Crosetti. The plot (which is still unspooling as I write
>this) concerns a question as to whether Crosetti killed himself.
>
>That's fine...except that in the premiere episode of this season, they
>established that Crosetti was already dead, and had been for months.
Are you SURE that it was months? What exactly did they say?
>Which would be fine...they just went back and told an old story...a story
>they decided wouldn't work well for the season premiere...for the premiere
>they'd need more of a bang. so they did the serial killer series.
>
>The problem is that in one scene, Pembleton talks about how he hasn't been in
>a church for a long time. Bayliss says, "you were in a church in the serial
>killer" case.
>
>So...is this a weird inconsistency? Or are they referring to another serial
>killer case?
I missed most of the resolution of the serial killer case, but think
I've seen the rest of the episodes this season. I got the impression that
all of this season has happened within a few _days_. Like each episode was
a day.. Since Crosetti was on vacation (?) for a few days, that could make up
for a few episodes, plus the serial killer thing took 2-3 days total, didn't it?
I dunno, people have been saying about how it's so totally obvious
that episodes have been out of order.. I thought at one point they were
_joking_ that Crosetti might be dead since he hadn't come back yet.
This theory will likely be shot to pieces, but is there any way that,
even if they've mis-ordered episodes, that everything could be happening within
a few short days?
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