La Femme Nikita: the actors today

[Robin Miller]

This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
cares about. But I'll share it anyway.

I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
six regulars:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933959/

Peta Wilson: nothing since 2012 other than a tiny role in a 2015 film.
The last thing I saw her in was the awful Malibu Shark Attack in 2009.

Don Francks: Died this April at the age of 84 from lung cancer, but
acting til the end.

Eugene Robert Glazer: Last IMDb credit was 2010, and before that 2006.
He's 73 and apparently retired.

Roy Dupuis: still active in Canadian TV work

Matthew Ferguson: Last IMDb credit was 2010.

Alberta Watson: Died last year after a long battle with lymphoma. I miss
her. Her last credit was Nikita; I loved seeing her in that.


Carlo Rota, who's been in a million things and is a new addition to the
second season of Dark Matter, was in 15 episodes.

--Robin

[Adam H. Kerman]

Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
>cares about. But I'll share it anyway.

Thanks! So anim had something to watch 20 years ago...

[anim8rfsk]

In article <nm4evi$8u6$5...@news.albasani.net>,

>:/

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <dulrq4...@mid.individual.net>,

I admit to doing this too. :)

[RichA]

On Tuesday, 12 July 2016 23:45:11 UTC-4, Robin Miller wrote:
> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
> cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
>
> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
> Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
> six regulars:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933959/
>
> Peta Wilson: nothing since 2012 other than a tiny role in a 2015 film.
> The last thing I saw her in was the awful Malibu Shark Attack in 2009.

Maybe she wasn't willing to "service" enough directors and producers?

[shawn]

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:50:27 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

I suspect all of us that use IMDB will do it on occasion. Often I'll
find people that I thought dropped out of acting even though younger
are still acting. Just in things I would never watch or never heard
of.

[Obveeus]

On 7/12/2016 11:45 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>
>
> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
> cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
>
> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
> Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
> six regulars:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933959/
>
> Peta Wilson: nothing since 2012 other than a tiny role in a 2015 film.
> The last thing I saw her in was the awful Malibu Shark Attack in 2009.

She owns a lingerie store in California and will do personal fittings
for customers in the shop:
http://wyliewilson.com/
https://twitter.com/getwylie

> Don Francks: Died this April at the age of 84 from lung cancer, but
> acting til the end.

Time for Michael Black to come out of the woodwork and talk about Cree
Summer...daughter of Don Francks.

[Capricorne]

Robin Miller wrote :

>
> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really cares
> about. But I'll share it anyway.
>
> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now. Tonight
> I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had six
> regulars:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933959/
>
>
>

> Alberta Watson: Died last year after a long battle with lymphoma. I miss her.
> Her last credit was Nikita; I loved seeing her in that.
>
>

Didn't she played for a short period in 24?

[Robin Miller]

Obveeus wrote:
>
>
> On 7/12/2016 11:45 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
>> cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
>>
>> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
>> Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
>> six regulars:
>>
>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933959/
>>
>> Peta Wilson: nothing since 2012 other than a tiny role in a 2015 film.
>> The last thing I saw her in was the awful Malibu Shark Attack in 2009.
>
> She owns a lingerie store in California and will do personal fittings
> for customers in the shop:
> http://wyliewilson.com/
> https://twitter.com/getwylie

That's interesting!

Peta Wilson is a creative warrior, actor, artist, and entrepreneur.
Known for starring in the TV series La Femme Nikita, she is now a
lingerie designer and outspoken proponent of authenticity.

>> Don Francks: Died this April at the age of 84 from lung cancer, but
>> acting til the end.
>
> Time for Michael Black to come out of the woodwork and talk about Cree
> Summer...daughter of Don Francks.
>

I remember that there was talk here at one point about Cree. She does a
lot of voice work:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0838588/


--Robin

[Robin Miller]

Yes, she was in 24 one season. I always really enjoyed her.

--Robin

[EGK]

On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:45:02 -0400, Robin Miller
<robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
>cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
>
>I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
>Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
>six regulars:

This is kind of the reverse of watching old shows and seeing faces you
recognize much more today in small rolls. It's interesting.

Related, La Femme Nikita was a show I never watched when it was on. The
cable here didn't carry the station that aired it. I think it was UPN back
then?

I didn't watch the newer remake either. Are either worth catching up on if
I can find them on netflix or something and which one is better? I know
they made quite a few seasons of both.

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 7/13/2016 6:46 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
> Obveeus wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/2016 11:45 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
>>> cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
>>>
>>> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
>>> Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
>>> six regulars:
>>>
>>> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0933959/
>>>
>>> Peta Wilson: nothing since 2012 other than a tiny role in a 2015 film.
>>> The last thing I saw her in was the awful Malibu Shark Attack in 2009.
>>
>> She owns a lingerie store in California and will do personal fittings
>> for customers in the shop:
>> http://wyliewilson.com/
>> https://twitter.com/getwylie
>
>
> That's interesting!
>
> Peta Wilson is a creative warrior, actor, artist, and entrepreneur.
> Known for starring in the TV series La Femme Nikita, she is now a
> lingerie designer and outspoken proponent of authenticity.
>

"outspoken proponent of authenticity"? Dafuq?


--
Running the rec.arts.TV Channels Watched Survey for Summer 2016

[Dimensional Traveler]

The Pita Wilson one I liked, but it was dark and got really weird near
the end with multiple layers of the organization getting added.

I think I watched the remake but have no memory of what it was like
which is probably not a good sign.

[Robin Miller]

I liked La Femme Nikita quite a bit; it was Peta Wilson's breakthrough,
and had several other strong characters in Walter (Don Francks),
Operations (Eugene Robert Glazer) and Madeline (Alberta Watson). It had
a final short season 5 that was tacked on due to fan demand and wasn't
as good.

I liked the remake, Nikita, but I was watching mostly because I was such
a fan of the original show (itself based on Luc Besson's French film of
the same name). It was decent and ran four seasons:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592154/

Alberta Watson appeared in an occasion role as a US senator who was a
member of an oversight committee for the operation.

--Robin

[anim8rfsk]

In article <ihccob15a2i9vijso...@4ax.com>,

Mostly I find "attractive actress quit business the year she turned 40"

[EGK]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:45:38 -0400, Robin Miller

I liked the original French film and the remake both. It's why I always
meant to watch the TV show but I was in one of those markets that didn't
have a UPN station. I never watched Enterprise for the same reason then
when I found out later how they ended it, I said fuck that. lol

I liked Alias though that got worse and worse as it went along. La Femme
Nikita was compared to that a lot at the time.

[Robin Miller]

According to Wikipedia, "La Femme Nikita was the highest-rated drama on
American basic cable during its first two seasons. It was also
distributed in some other countries, and it continues to have a strong
cult following."

It was shown on USA in the US and CTV in Canada.

The show mostly gets mostly 5 stars out of five on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Femme-Nikita-Complete-Seasons-1-5/dp/B000GGSLSG

--Robin

[EGK]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:22:44 -0400, Robin Miller

Hmm, So it was on USA network? I just remember I never could get it back
then so thought it was UPN.

I wonder why they call it a "basic cable" station since it's only available
if you pay for the extended tier? Where I am basic cable is pretty much
just NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, The CW (which got added much later) and PBS.

[Adam H. Kerman]

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

[looking at the later career of actresses from old tv shows]

>Mostly I find "attractive actress quit business the year she turned 40"

You know, the complaint that there are no parts written for older actresses
just isn't true. We've discussed this plenty of times, that a character
on a tv show could or should be played by someone older and more
experienced but they choose an actress that's much too young.

. . . while actresses in the mid 20s are still playing high school
girls and those who've already turned 30 are playing college girls.

Very few ever play their own age.

[Adam H. Kerman]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>Related, La Femme Nikita was a show I never watched when it was on. The
>cable here didn't carry the station that aired it. I think it was UPN back
>then?

No, it wasn't on broadcast but satellite/basic cable.

USA Network, 1997-2001. It's first four seasons had 22 episode orders,
started in January, with a lengthy mid-season hiatus. Season 5 had an
8 episode order. Was production shut down mid season or was that planned
because they really really didn't want to pay for a 5th season?

[Adam H. Kerman]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>I wonder why they call it a "basic cable" station since it's only available
>if you pay for the extended tier? Where I am basic cable is pretty much
>just NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, The CW (which got added much later) and PBS.

In analog cable days, the cable distributor used a variety of methods
to control the subscription, typically a combination of signal traps
and scrambling. Scrambled channels usually required a set-top box to
unscramble, but paying for a channel controlled with a signal trap could
be tuned in with a cable-ready tv.

The channels that weren't scrambled and weren't premium that could be
tuned with with a cable-ready tv were called "basic cable". Subscribers
with absolutely the lowest tier that got nothing but PEG and over-the-air
probably had signal traps blocking everything else. These days, they
get special mostly-useless set-top boxes.

This is why there was such a huge premium paid for certain satellite
channels that were formerly basic cable, like FAM/ABC FAM/Squiggle,
'cuz they were in so many more homes of cable subscribers despite
poor ratings.

FX, I believe, was the last basic cable channel introduced.

Most channels that came later (if they didn't buy and repurpose an
existing basic cable channel), like BBC America, weren't available
to cable subscribers until digital cable was introduced, to allow
the cable distributor to compress bandwidth.

[Robin Miller]

From Wiki:

Ratings success

La Femme Nikita was the number-one drama on basic cable channel USA
Network for its first two seasons.[3] It had been "greenlighted" by the
network's founder and "cable network pioneer" Kay Koplovitz and nurtured
by former USA Network president Rod Perth, a "key player" in its
development.[4] But, after Barry Diller assumed control of the network
in April 1998, he replaced Perth with Stephen Chao as network
president.[3] Heyn observed, "Although both Diller and Chao praised La
Femme Nikita publicly, it soon became obvious that the series was no
longer a priority. The non-stop publicity the series enjoyed under Perth
began to dry up, and the only attention that La Femme Nikita received
was the occasional promo spot, and even the frequency of those began to
decline."[3] During Nikita's third season, following Chao's "bizarre
request that La Femme Nikita cast wrestlers in key terrorist roles as a
way to cross-promote USA's broadcasts of the World Wrestling Federation"
despite evidence that the shows did not have compatible demographics,
Chao also began retooling USA Network's successful "Sunday Night Heat"
bloc of action dramas, which also included Pacific Blue and Silk
Stalkings; he canceled Silk Stalkings and replaced it with a slate of
new series that included The War Next Door, G vs. E, Manhattan, Arizona
and Cover Me, all of which ultimately failed in the ratings and were
also canceled.[3] Consequently, La Femme Nikita tumbled in the ratings
too, although the series still remained the top-rated drama on USA
Network, even during its fourth season, when promotional advertisements
for the series all but disappeared.[3] Negotiations to continue Nikita
for a fifth season and beyond failed owing to "disagreements between USA
Network and Warner Bros. over La Femme Nikita's renewal terms[,] [which]
spilled out publicly into the pages of [industry trade publications]
Variety and The Hollywood Reporter."[3]

"Save LFN"

Following the series' cancellation in 2000, its dedicated viewers
mounted an extensive fan campaign to revive it. "Save LFN"[5] was not
the first successful fan campaign to use the internet to rally fans and
renew a canceled series. "These kinds of efforts had resurrected
canceled series before, beginning with the original Star Trek on NBC in
1968 all the way up to UPN's Roswell in 2000".[3] However, "Save LFN" is
notable for its size and inventiveness, including an "online renewal
petition" which led to a full-page advertisement placed in The Hollywood
Reporter that requested USA Network and Warner Bros. reconsider their
decision. The campaign also amassed over 25,000 letters sent to both
companies containing everything from dollar bills featuring images of
co-star Roy Dupuis to sunglasses (Nikita's signature accessory) to old
TVs, VCRs, and remote controls .[3][6] A group of organizers calling
themselves "First Team", based on the term for the lead members of a
mission used frequently in the series, coordinated most of these efforts
through their Save LFN fansite.[3][6] As a result of these efforts,
Stephen Chao announced in September 2000 that La Femme Nikita would
return for a truncated fifth season of eight new episodes, which began
airing in January 2001.[3][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Femme_Nikita


Fans didn't really care for season 5 because it felt tacked on. They had
killed off a major character during season 4, for instance, but, after
the renewal, they brought in his previously-unknown twin to allow the
actor to continue.

--Robin

[EGK]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 16:11:00 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:

Thanks. That was a good explanation.

It's possible I was paying for just the basic tier that my cable offerred at
the time but I can't remember. Maybe I just missed La Femme Nikita and in
my mind thought it was on UPN. I knew Enterprise was UPN since that was
Paramount's baby. There was a UPN broadcast station 50 miles from me but
the local cable refused to offer it.

I had to resort to VHS tapes to watch the last of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
because of that. Local cable had carried The WB network but when that
combined with UPN to form the new CW network, they wouldn't carry that
either. George Avalos was nice enough to send me some tapes.

[Robin Miller]

One thing that has occurred to me is that I don't remember this show
every being broadcast in syndication. Certainly not in recent years. I'd
be interested in watching it from the beginning if it was shown again.

I suppose Netflix is undermining the market for second-run programming.
And older shows probably aren't syndicated much anymore.

--Robin

[Neill Massello]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> I wonder why they call it a "basic cable" station since it's only available
> if you pay for the extended tier? Where I am basic cable is pretty much
> just NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, The CW (which got added much later) and PBS.

Those aren't cable channels but broadcast networks whose local
affiliates are carried (by agreement or government command) on cable
systems, and the packages that include only those channels are usually
referred to as "Local Tier" or "Starter TV" or some such. "Basic cable"
is a little fuzzy, but it refers to the next level up and generally
includes ESPN, the news channels, and the older flagship channels from
Viacom, NBC Universal, Turner, Discovery, etc.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <r2mcobdf7ahssq3dg...@4ax.com>,

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> I liked the original French film and the remake both. It's why I always
> meant to watch the TV show but I was in one of those markets that didn't
> have a UPN station. I never watched Enterprise for the same reason then
> when I found out later how they ended it, I said fuck that. lol

Best ending *ever* - disavow the whole stinking pile!

[anim8rfsk]

In article <0gqcobt1u9j09qcvo...@4ax.com>,

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> I had to resort to VHS tapes to watch the last of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> because of that.

Fred: The last of season 5?

Ian: Buffy only had one season!

[anim8rfsk]

In article <nm5jnn$3j0$1...@dont-email.me>,

Google returned a lot of hits for the phrase, all invariably describing
someone selling stuff.

[Robin Miller]

Authentically.

--Robin

[Robin Miller]

Robin Miller wrote:
>
> Alberta Watson: Died last year after a long battle with lymphoma. I miss
> her. Her last credit was Nikita; I loved seeing her in that.
>
>

She was only 60, BTW. She was first diagnosed with lymphoma in 1998, so
she lived with it for 17 years.

With some nice photos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3008166/lberta-Watson-dies-age-60-husband-battle-cancer.html

--Robin

[EGK]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:03:19 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>In article <0gqcobt1u9j09qcvo...@4ax.com>,
> EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> I had to resort to VHS tapes to watch the last of Buffy the Vampire Slayer
>> because of that.
>
>Fred: The last of season 5?

hah. As it turned out, I could have probably done without seeing the CW
seasons just fine but being a completist I would have always wanted to.

Since I only saw a few sporadic episodes of Enterprise, I never felt the
same urge to watch after finding out how they ended it.

>Ian: Buffy only had one season!

I thought there were 3 seasons in Ian's version?

[Adam H. Kerman]

I believe "basic cable" was defined under one of the old Telecom Acts to
refer to the tier that included "must carry" broadcast channels, but
ever since "must carry" went away in federal law, so did "basic cable".

[anim8rfsk]

In article <km6dobp1ekg1a409a...@4ax.com>,

No. He says one, I say 5, we compromise on 3 as both our second choices.

[EGK]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:16:38 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:

That's why i was confused by it. I thought basic cable was exactly that.
Channels on the "must carry". Neill's comment makes sense but so does
yours. I think the meaning has changed over the years..

How long has it been since the "must carry" went away?
As I said before, I always thought it was bullshit anyway. Time Warner got
away without carrying the UPN for years where I am and the Syracuse UPN
channel was only about 50 miles away. I could have probably gotten it with
an antenna if I hadn't been in a valley and dependent on cable.

[Adam H. Kerman]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>13 Jul 2016 20:16:38 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Neill Massello <nmas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>>>>I wonder why they call it a "basic cable" station since it's only available
>>>>if you pay for the extended tier? Where I am basic cable is pretty much
>>>>just NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, The CW (which got added much later) and PBS.

>>>Those aren't cable channels but broadcast networks whose local
>>>affiliates are carried (by agreement or government command) on cable
>>>systems, and the packages that include only those channels are usually
>>>referred to as "Local Tier" or "Starter TV" or some such. "Basic cable"
>>>is a little fuzzy, but it refers to the next level up and generally
>>>includes ESPN, the news channels, and the older flagship channels from
>>>Viacom, NBC Universal, Turner, Discovery, etc.

>>I believe "basic cable" was defined under one of the old Telecom Acts to
>>refer to the tier that included "must carry" broadcast channels, but
>>ever since "must carry" went away in federal law, so did "basic cable".

>That's why i was confused by it. I thought basic cable was exactly that.
>Channels on the "must carry". Neill's comment makes sense but so does
>yours. I think the meaning has changed over the years..

>How long has it been since the "must carry" went away?

Looking it up, the Cable Act of 1992, passed after overriding G.H.W. Bush's
veto. That's when retransmission consent was introduced which led to
horizontal integration of broadcast networks, broadcast station groups,
and satellite channels, as conglomerates used retransmission consent
to force cable distributors to carry co-owned satellite channels.

>As I said before, I always thought it was bullshit anyway. Time Warner got
>away without carrying the UPN for years where I am and the Syracuse UPN
>channel was only about 50 miles away.

That's why. If the transmitter is more than 30 miles away from the
head end, it's out of market and carriage isn't regulated by federal law.

>I could have probably gotten it with an antenna if I hadn't been in a
>valley and dependent on cable.

That would have required a really tall mast!

[EGK]

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 20:45:40 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>

Not really. When I was growing up, we were able to get the major networks
on an antenna at a different location. It was only a half mile away from
my current house but much higher up. Remember, this was the older analog
system not digital. I was curious where you got that 30 miles from? All
I could find was the must carry law said cable companies had to carry
signals within a 60 mile (later changed to 50) mile radius of their service
area.

http://www.museum.tv/eotv/mustcarryru.htm

When first passed in 1972, the must-carry rules required that cable
companies provide channels for all local broadcasters within a 60-mile
(later changed to 50-mile) radius of the cable company's service area


It's been a while now but there was a stink from Star Trek fans about Time
Warner not offering a UPN affiliate in Ithaca, NY which is my serivce area.
Ithaca is about 65 miles from Syracuse but their service area is as close as
probably 35-40 miles. I guess their antennas were too far

I was able to find an old news article about it proving my memory is
somewhat muddled.

http://magazine.14850.com/articles/0101-voyager

It was Star Trek Voyager which we originally lost here. I never got to see
the final season till way later on borrowed tapes. According to that
article the UPN affiliate that started in Syracuse originally was too
low-powered to meet the "must carry" rules. When they finally upgraded
their transmitter they switched to being a WB channel. When The WB and
UPN finally merged we still didn't get the new network till a few years
later. So, we were basically blacked out from UPN/CW programming for
around 8years I guess.

Nowadays the same exact channel is carried with the other networks on the
basic(starter) cable tier.

[Neill Massello]

EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> That's why i was confused by it. I thought basic cable was exactly that.
> Channels on the "must carry". Neill's comment makes sense but so does
> yours. I think the meaning has changed over the years..

However it moght be used in regulatory law, "basic cable" in everyday
parlance refers to channels like CNN, TNT, and USA.

>
> How long has it been since the "must carry" went away?

It didn't.

<https://www.fcc.gov/media/cable-carriage-broadcast-stations>

I suspect that part of the market value of a broadcast license these
days consists of the holder's right to force its way onto the local
cable system, which is where the demographic gold is.

[Adam H. Kerman]

Old fashioned community access television?

>I was curious where you got that 30 miles from?

It's 30 miles from the head end, or technically, 30 miles from any home
in the territory wired. I'm saying "head end", which would have included
an antenna for reception of terrestrial broadcasts, in the days before
there was satellite retransmission of terrestrial broadcasts.

>All I could find was the must carry law said cable companies had to
>carry signals within a 60 mile (later changed to 50) mile radius of
>their service area.

>http://www.museum.tv/eotv/mustcarryru.htm

>When first passed in 1972, the must-carry rules required that cable
>companies provide channels for all local broadcasters within a 60-mile
>(later changed to 50-mile) radius of the cable company's service area

I think the way it works is 30 miles from edge locations, or 60
mile radius from the center. 30 + 30 = 60

30 miles is the broadcast radius of an antenna on maximum allowed power.
I'm too lazy to look any of this up, so I'm relying on memory.

Interesting story about Star Trek

[Adam H. Kerman]

The current law is must carry OR retransmission consent. It's only
must carry if the local broadcast station doesn't negotiate a
retransmission consent agreement.

The article cited by the O.P. said there was a federal court ruling
that must carry was unconstitutional, and I don't know how they've
been getting away with retransmission consent since 1992.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Those are all "broadcast" networks since they started as over the air
broadcast. The next tier is "basic cable", networks that aren't
broadcast over the air and ad supported non-subscription.

--
Running the rec.arts.TV Channels Watched Survey for Summer 2016

[Dimensional Traveler]

*smirk* I have all five season DVD sets.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Sooo.... Dafuq?

[Adam H. Kerman]

Sounds like you could make some money syndicating it around Usenet.

[Obveeus]

According to the website, 'authenticity' appears to me 'no underwire'.
Beyond that, she is trying to support breast cancer survivors being
proud of the body they have and as such donates a free bra to breast
cancer survivors for each bra her company sells.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <nm72us$u5u$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Butt butt butt ... high density power mesh!

[Dimensional Traveler]

I think I'm going to stay with "Dafuq?"

> Beyond that, she is trying to support breast cancer survivors being
> proud of the body they have and as such donates a free bra to breast
> cancer survivors for each bra her company sells.

That's still a really bizarre usage of "authenticity".

[Obveeus]

...but no metal...which must mean that Peta Wilson is the mental
opposite of those people that sell the socks/mittens/etc... with magical
'copper threads'.

[Obveeus]

Wearing a pretty bra is a whole lot more authentic than getting
'reconstructive surgery'.

[Dimensional Traveler]

But who in their right mind thinks "bra" when they hear the word
authenticity? I shouldn't be surprised though, every actor who "speaks
out" about anything political or social turns out to be brick stupid,
delusional or just flat out _crazy_.

[Obveeus]

To be fair, we are not really talking about an actor. We are talking
about a woman who owns a lingerie store.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <nm80d5$kkm$3...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>

Grrr I hate those. There was a day they wouldn't have been allowed to
advertise crap like that.

[Ian J. Ball]

On 2016-07-13 14:21:50 +0000, EGK said:

> On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:45:02 -0400, Robin Miller

> <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
>> cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
>>
>> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
>> Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
>> six regulars:
>

> This is kind of the reverse of watching old shows and seeing faces you
> recognize much more today in small rolls. It's interesting.
>

> Related, La Femme Nikita was a show I never watched when it was on. The
> cable here didn't carry the station that aired it. I think it was UPN back
> then?
>

> I didn't watch the newer remake either. Are either worth catching up on if
> I can find them on netflix or something and which one is better? I know
> they made quite a few seasons of both.

The original "La Femme Nikita" was great through its first 2-3 seasons.
But I would not bother at all with the last 2 seasons.

"Nikita" (the recent one) was actually reasonably diverting
entertainment. It also lost some steam towards the end, but the final
season isn't nearly as much of an abomination as "La Femme Nikita's"
final season was.

YMMV...


--
"His compassion killed him." - Dr. Sabine Lommers, in
"A Kingdom Divided Against Itself" (ep. #9), "Containment" (06-21-2016)

[David Barnett]

In article <dun4mb...@mid.individual.net>,
robin....@invalid.invalid says...
>
> EGK wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:45:38 -0400, Robin Miller

> > <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> EGK wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:45:02 -0400, Robin Miller
> >>> <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is the sort of thing I do periodically that no one else really
> >>>> cares about. But I'll share it anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like to look up shows I liked to see what the actors are doing now.
> >>>> Tonight I looked up La Femme Nikita, which ran from 1997 to 2001 and had
> >>>> six regulars:
> >>>
> >>> This is kind of the reverse of watching old shows and seeing faces you
> >>> recognize much more today in small rolls. It's interesting.
> >>>
> >>> Related, La Femme Nikita was a show I never watched when it was on. The
> >>> cable here didn't carry the station that aired it. I think it was UPN back
> >>> then?
> >>>
> >>> I didn't watch the newer remake either. Are either worth catching up on if
> >>> I can find them on netflix or something and which one is better? I know
> >>> they made quite a few seasons of both.
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >> I liked La Femme Nikita quite a bit; it was Peta Wilson's breakthrough,
> >> and had several other strong characters in Walter (Don Francks),
> >> Operations (Eugene Robert Glazer) and Madeline (Alberta Watson). It had
> >> a final short season 5 that was tacked on due to fan demand and wasn't
> >> as good.
> >>
> >> I liked the remake, Nikita, but I was watching mostly because I was such
> >> a fan of the original show (itself based on Luc Besson's French film of
> >> the same name). It was decent and ran four seasons:
> >>
> >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592154/
> >>
> >> Alberta Watson appeared in an occasion role as a US senator who was a
> >> member of an oversight committee for the operation.
> >
> > I liked the original French film and the remake both. It's why I always
> > meant to watch the TV show but I was in one of those markets that didn't
> > have a UPN station. I never watched Enterprise for the same reason then
> > when I found out later how they ended it, I said fuck that. lol
> >
> > I liked Alias though that got worse and worse as it went along. La Femme
> > Nikita was compared to that a lot at the time.
> >
>
>
> According to Wikipedia, "La Femme Nikita was the highest-rated drama on
> American basic cable during its first two seasons. It was also
> distributed in some other countries, and it continues to have a strong
> cult following."
>
> It was shown on USA in the US and CTV in Canada.
>
> The show mostly gets mostly 5 stars out of five on Amazon:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Femme-Nikita-Complete-Seasons-1-5/dp/B000GGSLSG
>

> --Robin

Many thanks Robin for initiating this thread.

It was shown on a cable channel here also, and was my
favorite show at the time.

--
David Barnett