Popping a Boner - Are the sex scenes real?
Bruce Lee
sex scenes are REAL in most R rated movies.
How can bump and grinding go on and there not be penetration? Is is
trick angles?
Take Tanya Roberts for example, I'll swear that it looks likes she's
having intercourse in most her movies.. Is this the case or what?
What are body suits?
How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
Erin Hope Blockley
>How can bump and grinding go on and there not be penetration? Is is
>trick angles?
>How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
Depending upon the director, I would imagine most of these scenes are
painstakingly choreographed for the cameras, lights, etc. Also, the
scenes you see in the movies probably aren't first takes. It might take
all day to film a scene of just walking through the woods, so an
average-length sex scene probably takes quite a while. After a few hours
of mock-sex with someone whom you're not completely comfortable with,
under five cameras with thirty members of the crew standing around, in the
same makeup that you had on six hours ago, with a director critiquing your
"performance," I think sexual reactions sort of wear off.
As far as erections go -- movies tend to show the female body more than
the male one, so I have no idea whether it happens or not. It is probably
easy to get desensitized to doing sex scenes after a while, though.
Society has become fairly desensitized to seeing them, judging by the
increasing lenience of the ratings systems over the past few years.
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Michael Brooke
: Hey, a question I have always wondered about is whether or not the
: sex scenes are REAL in most R rated movies.
: Take Tanya Roberts for example, I'll swear that it looks likes she's
: having intercourse in most her movies.. Is this the case or what?
Why don't you ask her? No-one else is going to give you an honest or
accurate answer.
: What are body suits?
Exactly what the name implies - flesh-coloured body-stockings that
(from a distance) create the illusion of nudity.
: How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
Well, just imagine how well *you'd* perform if you had a director,
camera crew and lighting technicians sniggering in the background!
Most actors who've spoken on the subject say that there's very little
chance of an erection under those circumstances, as they're only too
aware of what's going on beyond the limits of the film frame.
Michael
Ben
wrote:
>How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
takes away from the excitement...
The Ando-Man
Get a life!!!!!
-PINO
FristAC
What are you people, completely dumb????? Are sex scenes real
is probably the most ignorant question I've ever heard asked.
I suggest that all you people rent "Debbie does Dallas" and
Spank the Monkey in the privacey of your own home and leave the rest of us
out of it.
Don't post a message like this again. I suggest a newsgroup
that caters to the exotica in you.
FirstAC
P.S. To: Popping a boner, "GET A LIFE".
Brian Lam
Duct tape.
"You are very romantic. Verry romantic..."
From Beijing with Love
Corey
The guy didn't say anything really perverted; he brought up an
interesting question.
Ryan
mo...@epix.net
> Bruce Lee (bl...@erols.com) wrote:
>> : How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
> Most actors who've spoken on the subject say that there's very little
> chance of an erection under those circumstances, as they're only too
>> aware of what's going on beyond the limits of the film frame.
Wait a sec!!!
Take the movie "Kids". 15 thru 17 year old actors and actresses
(obviously not in body suits) thumping up and down on each other
in bed and you mean to tell me that that kid never actually stuck
it in?
that's will power
Eve Butterly
>: How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
noticed some of Bruce Lee's other off-color postings (see "No Subject"
and his comments on Julia Ormand.)
>Well, just imagine how well *you'd* perform if you had a director,
>camera crew and lighting technicians sniggering in the background!
Every show I've ever done with a love scene, the director has cleared
the set of all non-essential personnel. Basically, it's just the
director, camera op, and perhaps a sound mixer and a female wardrobe
person on set. And usually the AD makes a general announcement for
everybody to be polite and respectful of the actors in a difficult
situation. Any actor can ask that the set be closed during these
scenes, and any director who would have a problem with that is a
scary, insensitive person indeed.
Bill Binkelman
I don't think this guy's question was either perverse or lame.
Oh, and Michael B, while I agree with most of what you wrote about this,
it's an interesting thought what happens on a subconscious level, i.e.
when your conscious brain is able to overule your libido. Even with
camera, lights, techs, director, endless retakes, face it-you are still
in bed with a (supposedly) good-looking person and having simulated sex.
This is probably one of those cases where there is no way to evaluate
it without actaully being in the situation...And what happens if you
actually LIKE your co-star...the possibilities are endless.
Bill
Kieran Finney
one movie (Tattoo, I think). Some of the old boys (& girls) probably did
actually hide the weenie. Gotta love the film biz.
Kieran
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Brian Lam
> I'd get a boner if I was pretending to screw a good lookin' super-star, even if it was
> around a bunch of cameras. But as you get older, I think it takes more that a pretty
> face to get your dick hard. What I wonder is how these porno stars are'nt hard at the
> first sight of pink.
I repeat...duct tape.
Tim Austen
1) This became an issue during the filming of Moonstruck wehen Nicholas
Cage had to "take a few minutes to re-compose himself" during one of his
scenes with Cher. Cher's comment was something along the lines of not
knowing whether to feel uncomfortable or honored by it.
2) I wouldn't be surprised if starring couples actually had sex while
filming ie) Moore/Estevez, Cruise/Kidman, Pamela Lee/Tommy Lee. Would
it not make the scene more authentic ?
Susan
>
> > Bruce Lee (bl...@erols.com) wrote:
> >> : How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
>
> > chance of an erection under those circumstances, as they're only too
> >> aware of what's going on beyond the limits of the film frame.
The first movie I ever worked on, one of the actresses was
telling me and the other wardrobe chick how totally repulsed
she was by the ugly little mole man she was doing a love
scene with who had gotten an ugly *little* boner against her
leg.
Wardrobe and makeup (*not* the "glam squad" please) hear alot
of dirt. Why do you think so many actors and actresses get
picked up at the same room a week into the shoot?
-Susan
drew
penis in the sex scene in The Name of the Rose.
Drew
Bundy Chanock
>>: How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
Agreed. The only set that I've worked on where the actor(s) wanted an
open set are some of the Shannon Tweed sets....she enjoys having
people around her.
Bundy
Paramedics Unlimited
on the set of
Metro
Kerman Geoffrey Bryan
Look, people:
I don't care what you post to these other groups above, but take
rec.m.a off the list!!! We here in rec.m.a do not care to see or hear
this crap, and are well within our rights to speak up. In case you
missed my point, this is a martial arts newsgroup; stop crossposting crap
like this, we don't want to see it. It ain't difficult to scratch
rec.m.a off the crossposting list.
You either a) might think it's funny or b) think some of us here
want to see this crap, but if b) is the case, then I'm sure the people on
here are *quite* capable of looking up such *informative* info about
popping boners in the appropriate newsgroups. Sex talk and porn is not a
topic for discussion on rec.m.a. To avoid any more flames from myself
and others on rec.m.a, you would be advised to stop crossposting such
garbage! WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IT, AS IT DOES NOT BELONG!!!
And for you Freedom of Speech zealots out there: sure, you have a
right to post it, but we have just as much right to ask that it at least
be posted to a newsgroup that is appropriate!
Geoff
MacZenWES
Mickey Roarke films, I believe it was "Wild Orchid". He was dating the
lead actress at the time, and they have a love scene at the end. They
were both very upset when a frame of the film was cut out and printed in
various skin mags that showed the two of them obviously "doing the deed".
I guess the editor missed it at 24fps.
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Anonymous
There is a story about the filming of PROSPERO'S BOOKS (naked bodies
everywhere). One actor gets an erection, and the director Peter Greenaway
asks him, "What't the problem?"
Amanda Marie Marcotte
: 2) I wouldn't be surprised if starring couples actually had sex while
: it not make the scene more authentic ?
Not with a bunch of people watching you. I had a friend who did a TV
movie w/ a sex scene. She said it was one of the more uncomfortable
moments in her life, physically and mentally.
-Mandy the Mighty Mouse
Craig Johnston
Ahh, but some people are exhibitionists.
(I like people watching me. ;) )
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Neil Sarver
Tim Austen (c9...@uglab.phys.ualberta.ca) wrote:
> I wouldn't be surprised if starring couples actually had sex while
> filming ie) Moore/Estevez, Cruise/Kidman, Pamela Lee/Tommy Lee(???).
> Would it not make the scene more authentic ?
I'm not sure it necessarily would. Real doesn't always translate to
real looking on-screen. Men have to wear make-up. Real-life lovers
having no on-screen chemistry - like any couple starring in a version of
The Getaway. Blah-blah-blah... Movies are about illusion and sometimes
truth doesn't appear to be what it is when it's flooded with light and
projected on a 40 foot screen.
A good example of a scene that was definitely really enacted for the
camera and does feature an erection is the X-Rated version of the film
Devil in the Flesh (this is, of course, exactly what's removed to get it
an R-Rating). It's an oral sex scene and it's actually quite brilliant
and sexy. I admit being somewhat surprised, especially since the rest of
the movie is relatively mediocre. Strange things happen sometimes.
I doubt however that most people end up actually doing it. Dudley Moore
tells a funy story about wearing four (three???) pairs of jockeys to
avoid having Bo Derek notice if he had a accidental arousal. Peter Fonda
apparently did in bed with Nancy Sinatra in Wild Angels and she ended up
shielding it from the camera with her leg (he says that it shows up if
you look).
I also heard that the Wild Orchid scene being real is a myth, but it is
quite realistic. Unfortunately, the rest of the movie is so damn boring.
And if Mickey and Carre didn't, I doubt many people did.
This didn't come across as having as much direction as I intended, but those
are my thoughts - scattered as they are...
Neil
Gu...@odyssee.net
>Hey, a question I have always wondered about is whether or not the
>sex scenes are REAL in most R rated movies.
Go to a movie group for this.
This about Martial not Marital arts.
You should leave this with the HOT WOMEN posts,
in the garbage.
Bundy Chanock
>... but since it has, I'll venture on in.
>Tim Austen (c9...@uglab.phys.ualberta.ca) wrote:
>> I wouldn't be surprised if starring couples actually had sex while
>> filming ie) Moore/Estevez, Cruise/Kidman, Pamela Lee/Tommy Lee(???).
>> Would it not make the scene more authentic ?
>I'm not sure it necessarily would. Real doesn't always translate to
>real looking on-screen. Men have to wear make-up. Real-life lovers
>having no on-screen chemistry - like any couple starring in a version of
>The Getaway. Blah-blah-blah... Movies are about illusion and sometimes
>truth doesn't appear to be what it is when it's flooded with light and
>projected on a 40 foot screen.
>A good example of a scene that was definitely really enacted for the
>camera and does feature an erection is the X-Rated version of the film
>Devil in the Flesh (this is, of course, exactly what's removed to get it
>an R-Rating). It's an oral sex scene and it's actually quite brilliant
>and sexy. I admit being somewhat surprised, especially since the rest of
>the movie is relatively mediocre. Strange things happen sometimes.
>I doubt however that most people end up actually doing it. Dudley Moore
>tells a funy story about wearing four (three???) pairs of jockeys to
>avoid having Bo Derek notice if he had a accidental arousal. Peter Fonda
>apparently did in bed with Nancy Sinatra in Wild Angels and she ended up
>shielding it from the camera with her leg (he says that it shows up if
>you look).
James Brolin had a monster woodie when he was in bed with Shannon
Tweed in Indecent Behavior II.
Bundy
arandia
: There is a story about the filming of PROSPERO'S BOOKS (naked bodies
: everywhere). One actor gets an erection, and the director Peter Greenaway
: asks him, "What't the problem?"
I forget who, but I remember a story of a particular leading man telling
his leading lady, "I'm sorry if I do and I'm sorry if I don't."
joel
Suzanne Sell
OH come on Drew, do we need to be reminded????? SICK!
-andy sell
Lorr Kramer
: ... I don't care what you post to these other groups above, but take
: rec.m.a off the list!!! We here in rec.m.a do not care to see or hear
: this crap, and are well within our rights to speak up. In case you
: missed my point, this is a martial arts newsgroup; stop crossposting crap
: like this, we don't want to see it. It ain't difficult to scratch
: rec.m.a off the crossposting list.
While the wide cross-posting of the original article was inappropriate,
your equally widely cross-posted complaint was equally inappropriate.
The original question about "popping a boner" was, I daresay, at least
widely interesting. Your complaint was not.
JKreines
)))James Brolin had a monster woodie when he was in bed with Shannon
Tweed in Indecent Behavior II.(((
Great. An actor and an actress no one could possibly care about in a film
no one has heard of... this is information we all need...
Neil Sarver
I don't remember the scene in The Name of the Rose - it's been a while.
But that bugs me when people are in a passionate moment or just past one
and he stands up (or turns over or whatever) and there it is limp as life.
What's the point? It just comes off like a continuity error, although I
suspect some director's feel their pushing the envelope in doing it.
There's a time and a place for everything and a sex scene is no place for
us to be seeing a limp dick.
Neil
Chris Butler
the male lead to a female lead just before filming a steamy
scene:
"I apologize if I get an erection, and I apologize
if I don't."
Why don't I write these things down?
-Chris
[oh yeah, my views, not Nortel's, etc...]
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Smitten
i couldnt agree more. oh, and the plural for penis is, actually, peni.
joel
Bob Lovell
refference to.
Bundy Chanock
>Bundy writes:
If I remember correctly, this was a thread about how men can manage to
not have an erection during love and sex scenes with actresses, not
which actors may or may not strike your fancy.
In the over 400 productions that I've worked on (if you count
commercials and television and music videos), I've been on many sets
that were closed during the scenes and many that were not. Of the
ones that I personally have been in the room on, some men didn't show
their arousal...some did. It's generally accepted that if it does
happen that everyone just sort of ignores it.
Richard Parry
> Tim Austen (c9...@uglab.phys.ualberta.ca) wrote:
> : 2) I wouldn't be surprised if starring couples actually had sex while
> : filming ie) Moore/Estevez, Cruise/Kidman, Pamela Lee/Tommy Lee. Would
> : it not make the scene more authentic ?
> Not with a bunch of people watching you. I had a friend who did a TV
> movie w/ a sex scene. She said it was one of the more uncomfortable
> moments in her life, physically and mentally.
Of course, some people find vouyerism a turn-on... :)
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я
AlenSmithe
telling me and the other wardrobe chick how totally repulsed
she was by the ugly little mole man she was doing a love
scene with who had gotten an ugly *little* boner against her
leg.
Must've been Ron Jeremy!!
Anonymous
Nope. Look it up.
JKreines
)))James Brolin had a monster woodie when he was in bed with Shannon
>Tweed in Indecent Behavior II. . . . . . Of the
ones that I personally have been in the room on, some men didn't show
their arousal...some did. It's generally accepted that if it does
happen that everyone just sort of ignores it.((
Except clearly Mr. Brolin's member held some fascination for you...
Jonas Ussing
>Kerman Geoffrey Bryan (ker...@server.uwindsor.ca) wrote:
>: ... I don't care what you post to these other groups above, but take
>: rec.m.a off the list!!! We here in rec.m.a do not care to see or hear
>: this crap, and are well within our rights to speak up. In case you
>: missed my point, this is a martial arts newsgroup; stop crossposting crap
>: like this, we don't want to see it. It ain't difficult to scratch
>: rec.m.a off the crossposting list.
Ha ha ha ha ha HAA HAA!!!!
>While the wide cross-posting of the original article was inappropriate,
>your equally widely cross-posted complaint was equally inappropriate.
>The original question about "popping a boner" was, I daresay, at least
>widely interesting. Your complaint was not.
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Bundy Chanock
>Bundy writes:
Fascination, no. I'm hetero and got four kids. Noticeable, yes.
Bob Lovell
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Sarah E. Bewley
The quote is from Keanu Reeves. He was talking about doing love scenes. He
said that it was difficult - and that you had to say "I'm sorry if I do and
I'm sorry if I don't" get aroused.
Roy the Rottweiler
> There's a time and a place for everything and a sex scene is no place for
> us to be seeing a limp dick.
>
Showing an erect one on film in England will get your film classed as
obscene. The movie will be banned immediately from cinema and TV, with
the possibility of *criminal prosecution* for the directors!
Some countries are even stricter - ISTR Malaysia cutting an episode of
the X-files because it showed Gillian Anderson in a state of undress.
Hollywierd producers do not want to their film getting banned - it would
impact on foreign sales, so no boners for the export markets....
--
Roy the Rottweiler
Michael Brooke
: > There's a time and a place for everything and a sex scene is no place for
: > us to be seeing a limp dick.
: >
: Showing an erect one on film in England will get your film classed as
: obscene. The movie will be banned immediately from cinema and TV, with
: the possibility of *criminal prosecution* for the directors!
Bollocks. If that were the case, then the government-funded British
Film Institute (distributors of, among other things, uncut prints of
Borowczyk's 'The Beast', Oshima's 'In the Realm of the Senses' and
Jarman's 'Sebastiane') would have been shut down and prosecuted years
ago. As would distributors Metro Tartan ('The Adjuster'), Artificial
Eye ('Les Amants du Pont-Neuf'), and the distributors of pretty well
any one of those recent so-called "sex education" videos. Not to
mention the cinema I helped run for six years, which showed all the
above (apart from the sex education videos) on numerous occasions, and
which is still going strong (or still open, anyway). And the
much-missed Scala, which showed the likes of 'Thundercrack' and 'Cafe
Flesh' for years, closed due to financial problems rather than legal
action.
Channel Four showed a blatantly erect penis in their notorious
documentary 'Sex and the Censors' from about five years back.
Admittedly, they got their knuckles rapped by the ITC or IBA or
whoever the independent television watchdog was at the time, but I
don't recall any criminal prosecutions for either Channel 4 or the
company that made the documentary - possibly because there weren't
any.
It's still a very grey area legally, but saying that an erection means
that something is "automatically obscene" is ludicrous. It will
almost certainly get your film an 18 certificate (I've seen plenty of
full-frontal male nudity in 15, 12 and even PG certificate films, but
no erections), but if the erection in question can be clearly
justified in the overall context of the film, there shouldn't be any
problem. Hard core pornography *is* illegal, but the exact definition
of what that is is still just as much a grey area, which is one of the
reasons why the censors have been passing the likes of 'In the Realm
of the Senses' and the sex education videos - to see what the legal
limits actually are. But it seems pretty clear that erections per se
are not obscene.
: Hollywierd producers do not want to their film getting banned - it would
: impact on foreign sales, so no boners for the export markets....
This implies that Hollywood films would be full of erections if only
it wasn't for those pesky export markets, which is even more bizarre
than the other statement. Actually, the European versions of the likes
of 'Crimes of Passion', 'Basic Instinct' and 'The Color of Night' were
*longer* than the US release versions, and full-frontal male nudity
(if not aroused genitalia) was featured in the long versions of two of
those.
Michael
Moiner
"Sarah E. Bewley" <afn0...@afn.org> wrote:
>The quote is from Keanu Reeves. He was talking about doing love scenes. He
>said that it was difficult - and that you had to say "I'm sorry if I do and
>I'm sorry if I don't" get aroused.
>
The quote is considerably older than Keanu, who doesn't qualify at any
rate-- it was spoken to an actress by an *actor*
;-)
>
>On 5 Apr 1996, Chris Butler wrote:
>
>> Can anyone provide the source for this quote? It was said by
>> the male lead to a female lead just before filming a steamy
>> scene:
>>
>> "I apologize if I get an erection, and I apologize
>> if I don't."
>>
>> Why don't I write these things down?
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> [oh yeah, my views, not Nortel's, etc...]
>> --
>> Chris Butler aka cbu...@bnr.ca
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>> All standard disclaimers apply. Have an adequate day.
>>
>>
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Roy the Rottweiler
mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk "Michael Brooke" writes:
> Roy the Rottweiler (news...@candyman.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> : Showing an erect one on film in England will get your film classed as
> : obscene. The movie will be banned immediately from cinema and TV, with
> : the possibility of *criminal prosecution* for the directors!
>
> Bollocks.
^^^^^^^^ ROFL.....
If that were the case, then the government-funded British
> Film Institute (distributors of, among other things, uncut prints of
> Borowczyk's 'The Beast', Oshima's 'In the Realm of the Senses' and
> Jarman's 'Sebastiane') would have been shut down and prosecuted years
> ago.
Calm down :) - I did say *possibility* of prosecution, not that a whole
truckload of police will kick the filmmakers door down. I made the post
to show the state of censorship in this country [and others]. It's not
just the BBFC who can 'class' a film as obscene - all it takes is a few
rabid tabloid reporters, and the big cinema chains to put a 'voluntary'
ban on the picture, consigning it to certain 'trendier' cinemas only...
plus the TV and video industry have their own censorship codes...
Perhaps I should have been a bit clearer on *who* would 'censor' the
picture, but this 'voluntary censorship' does happen - with a lot of
other media as well as films. FWIW, I have not seen the pictures you
mention above in their uncut state showing on the local multiplexes
screens....
> Channel Four showed a blatantly erect penis in their notorious
> documentary 'Sex and the Censors' from about five years back.
> Admittedly, they got their knuckles rapped by the ITC or IBA or
> whoever the independent television watchdog was at the time,
TV as you are well aware is very highly regulated here..
> don't recall any criminal prosecutions for either Channel 4 or the
> company that made the documentary - possibly because there weren't
> any.
>
But with TV such as Channel 4 [which is intended to show minority views]
there are the implications for freedom of speech, which would make any
criminal prosecution a difficult affair, but probably only because
European eyes [and the UN] are watching our Government.
> no erections), but if the erection in question can be clearly
> justified in the overall context of the film, there shouldn't be any
> problem.
For purely academic reasons, I would be very interested to know quite
*how* you would justify an erection to the BBFC :) As for a legal grey
area, I do not dispute this, but the possibility of criminal prosecution
is *still* there and on our statute books.
Consider this - a British film-maker makes a film with a plot *very*
critical of our Government. It contains a scene with an erect male
member. Next week, on the orders of the Home Office all copies of the
film are seized by the Met's vice squad and the film-maker bailed at the
local magistrates.
Conspiracy theory? Maybe, but if you follow the way HM Government is
heading with regard to media censorship.....
> : Hollywierd producers do not want to their film getting banned - it wo
> : impact on foreign sales, so no boners for the export markets....
> This implies that Hollywood films would be full of erections if only
> it wasn't for those pesky export markets, which is even more bizarre
> than the other statement.
I do not see how this follows. Hollywierd is built on *money* - and
although the Europeans are well known for being more liberal where
matters of the flesh are concerned, the UK, Asian and Middle Eastern
markets [in mainstream cinema at least] are not as liberal as that. If
scenes offend the powers that be, out they go...... rather than lose out
on box office receipts.
--
Roy the Rottweiler
AlenSmithe
that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
muff for the camera, but they ban penises. Shows that H'wood
is still controlled by hetero males.
I think it has to do more with the, uh, state they're in. I heard an
interview on the radio with someone from the MPAA a while back, and he
said it'd probably be a LONG time before they could show a male erection
without getting an X/NC17 rating.
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: that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
: leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
: muff for the camera, but they ban penises. Shows that H'wood
: is still controlled by hetero males.
Just out of curiosity - given the MPAA's problems with full-frontal
male nudity, what rating did 'A Room With A View' get in the US? (I
can't think of a single European country where it was given anything
stronger than a PG)
This is, of course, assuming that the bathing scene was left intact
in the US version...
Michael
Jedster
> It's a double standard. It's hard to find an R-rated film
> that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
> leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
> muff for the camera, but they ban penises. Shows that H'wood
> is still controlled by hetero males.
It is irrelevant who Hollywood is "controlled" by. I would guess that
Hollywood has just as many homosexuals as heterosexuals, if not more.
Hollywood is indeed controlled by the movie-goer. If the viewer payed to
see penises (erect or flaccid), you could bet that they would have the
screen filled with them. However, since most heterosexual couples that
go to the movies are payed for by the male and most males don't care to
pay to view male genitalia, the producers are not going to put them on
the screen.
Michael Brooke
: neil,
: i couldnt agree more. oh, and the plural for penis is, actually, peni.
Not according to the Oxford English Dictionary it isn't.
The correct plural is, in fact, 'penes', though 'penises' is close
enough, and probably more easily understood by people without a Latin
qualification. But 'peni' is *completely* wrong.
Michael
Cap'n Buckwheat
>Hey, a question I have always wondered about is whether or not the
>sex scenes are REAL in most R rated movies.
>How can bump and grinding go on and there not be penetration? Is is
>trick angles?
>Take Tanya Roberts for example, I'll swear that it looks likes she's
>having intercourse in most her movies.. Is this the case or what?
>What are body suits?
>How do you keep from popping a boner when you do the love scenes?
Actually, the movie "Tattoo" made in the seventies with Bruce Dern and
Maude Addams had a sex scene in which they really did do it! Bruce
Dern spilled the beans to someone and Maude Addams was so upset with
him she never spoke to him again. It seems they were having an affair
and they wanted to keep the above fact out of the public's ears.
Neil Sarver
> that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
> leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
> muff for the camera, but they ban penises.
This is one of my least favorite misnomers. The truth is breasts are
not genitalia and not that many movies show women's genitalia, probably
more than show male genitalia, but not by all that much.
> Shows that H'wood is still controlled by hetero males.
I suppose. Didn't we all know that?
Neil
Jeff Simon
>"Sarah E. Bewley" <afn0...@afn.org> wrote:
>>The quote is from Keanu Reeves. He was talking about doing love scenes. He
>>said that it was difficult - and that you had to say "I'm sorry if I do and
>>I'm sorry if I don't" get aroused.
>>
>The quote is considerably older than Keanu, who doesn't qualify at any
>rate-- it was spoken to an actress by an *actor*
>;-)
>>
>>On 5 Apr 1996, Chris Butler wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone provide the source for this quote? It was said by
>>> the male lead to a female lead just before filming a steamy
>>> scene:
>>> "I apologize if I get an erection, and I apologize
>>> if I don't."
>>>
>>> Why don't I write these things down?
>>>
>>> -Chris
The source of that quote was George C. Scott.
I cannot remember who the actress was . . . I am thinking
Faye D., but I could be wrong.
J. Simon
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>>It is irrelevant who Hollywood is "controlled" by. I would guess that
Hollywood has just as many homosexuals as heterosexuals, if not more>>
not to sound too immature...but.... FUCK YOU. your wrong.
joel
Smitten
go to the movies are payed for by the male >>
and this?!?!?!
FUCK YOU AND A HALF!
joel
Scott Amspoker
: It's a double standard. It's hard to find an R-rated film
: that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
: leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
: is still controlled by hetero males.
Yep. Het males that get very nervous and uncomfortable with penises.
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: > documentary 'Sex and the Censors' from about five years back.
: > Admittedly, they got their knuckles rapped by the ITC or IBA or
: > whoever the independent television watchdog was at the time,
: TV as you are well aware is very highly regulated here..
We had a local guy on the community access channel do one of his shows
fully naked (no erection though). His argument was that society will
get more upset about seeing a naked man on TV than they will about
wars, starvation, etc. Sure enough, our (then) idiot mayor played right
into his hands and threatened to halt funding for community access.
Kartaan
>male nudity, what rating did 'A Room With A View' get in the US? (I
>can't think of a single European country where it was given anything
>stronger than a PG)
>
>This is, of course, assuming that the bathing scene was left intact
>in the US version...
>
>Michael
I don't think foreign films have to be rated here.....and yes, the bathing
scene is intact!
I think that, if it was rated, it would have been PG-13.
In the US, I believe that showing anything more than a semi-erect penis is
an automatic X/NC-17 rating. In a way, the terms 'soft-core' and
'hard-core' can be used as a kind of (visual) rating guide. ;)
Soft-core = R Hard-core = X/NC-17
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> >>It is irrelevant who Hollywood is "controlled" by. I would guess that
> >>Hollywood has just as many homosexuals as heterosexuals, if not more...
> not to sound too immature...but.... FUCK YOU. your wrong.
Not exactly how I would have put it, but it was a relatively absurd thing
to say. That dude is apparently living in another dimension - you know,
not of time or space, but of imagination...
Neil
Michael Brooke
: >Just out of curiosity - given the MPAA's problems with full-frontal
: >male nudity, what rating did 'A Room With A View' get in the US? (I
: >can't think of a single European country where it was given anything
: >stronger than a PG)
: >
: >This is, of course, assuming that the bathing scene was left intact
: >in the US version...
: >
: >Michael
: I don't think foreign films have to be rated here.....and yes, the bathing
: scene is intact!
I don't believe that for a moment - there's no way it would have got
all those Oscar nominations if the film had been unrated (not least
because of the number of cinemas that would have refused to show it,
and newspapers that would have refused to take advertising).
Admittedly, I'm hardly an expert on the US rating system, never having
experienced it at first hand, but I thought a rating was more or less
compulsory if you wanted any kind of decent release - *regardless* of
the film's country of origin. After all, two of the major players in
the row over ratings that led to the introduction of the NC-17 (to no
great effect as far as I can see) were 'The Cook, the Thief, His Wife
and Her Lover' and 'Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!', neither of them
particularly American...
Michael
D Gary Grady
>I don't think foreign films have to be rated here.....and yes, the bathing
>scene is intact!
No films *have* to be rated in the U.S. It's just that most theaters
(other than art houses) "voluntarily" require a rating. (There may
also be advertising and distribution problems for unrated films; that
I'm not sure about.) Getting a rating costs money, and foreign films
usually don't make much in the U.S. and hence play only in art houses,
so in many cases they don't go to the trouble of getting MPAA's
imprimatur. The same goes for U.S.-made "art" films.
Made-for-cable and direct-to-video films are also often unrated.
D Gary Grady
Durham NC USA
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Michael Brooke
: wrote:
: : It's a double standard. It's hard to find an R-rated film
: : that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
: : leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
: : muff for the camera, but they ban penises. Shows that H'wood
: : is still controlled by hetero males.
: Yep. Het males that get very nervous and uncomfortable with penises.
Which is the only rational reason why they appear to be taboo. Quite
apart from being blatantly sexist and discriminatory, it's also
completely unjustifiable in any terms other than ones based purely on
prejudice (a bit like, to get even more polemical, the near-universal
bans on gay marriages that most governments still impose, despite
the noticeable lack of the sound of roofs falling in in certain
Scandinavian countries after they introduced the concept).
Although such sexism also exists in Europe, in general there's far
less of a problem with unaroused displays of male genitalia - as
witness Robert De Niro and Gerard Depardieu's full-frontals in
Bertolucci's '1900' (which has been shown more than once - uncut - on
British network TV without the roof falling in). Would they have been
quite so forthcoming had the film been made in Hollywood? I suspect
not (I can't recall a De Niro full-frontal in any of his American
films).
Here in Britain, I've seen full-frontal male nudity in the
U-certificate 'Kes' (equivalent of G), the PG-rated 'A Room with a
View', and those are by no means the only examples. You also get
occasional frontal male nudity in prime-time high-ratings British
network TV series (last Saturday's 9pm episode of 'The Governor' was a
good recent example, and the uncut 'Priest' was shown by the BBC just
after 9pm) to an extent utterly unimaginable on US network TV.
And if you compare Paul Verhoeven's Dutch films (and even his
non-Hollywood English-language debut 'Flesh + Blood') with his
Hollywood films, there's absolutely no contest - 'Turkish Delight',
'Spetters' and 'The Fourth Man' have more male genitalia than I've
seen in anything outside a porno movie (in fact, 'Turkish Delight' was
*marketed* as a porno movie in the UK, despite getting a Best Foreign
Film Oscar nomination in the US!), but as soon as he got to Hollywood,
his actors got covered up (though, to be fair to Verhoeven, he did at
least try to persuade Michael Douglas and Kyle MacLachlan to reveal
all in 'Basic Instinct' and 'Showgirls' before coming up against their
cast-iron no nudity contracts).
Michael
(who's eagerly looking forward to seeing what aspect of the hugely
successful 'Trainspotting' will cause the most problems when it comes
to receive an MPAA rating in the US - will it be the graphic drug
abuse, the non-stop foul language, or the frontal male nudity? My
money's on the latter, even though logic and common sense should
dictate that it's far less obviously "corrupting"!)
Neil Sarver
> Kartaan (kar...@aol.com) wrote...(is that attribution right, there was one missing?):
> : I don't think foreign films have to be rated here.....and yes, the
> : bathing scene is intact!
> I don't believe that for a moment - there's no way it would have got
> all those Oscar nominations if the film had been unrated (not least
> because of the number of cinemas that would have refused to show it,
> and newspapers that would have refused to take advertising).
No MPAA rating for Room With A View. He's right, foreign and Indie films
get released without them all the time. The Oscar thing is interesting,
but not unheard of.
The theaters playing it thing is also valid, except that foreign and indie
movies always at least start out in Art House type theaters, which show
movies without ratings almost as a rule. Once they're successful (assuming
of course that they are) then the larger chain-type theater pick 'em up -
no problem.
> Admittedly, I'm hardly an expert on the US rating system, never having
> experienced it at first hand, but I thought a rating was more or less
> compulsory if you wanted any kind of decent release - *regardless* of
> the film's country of origin. After all, two of the major players in
> the row over ratings that led to the introduction of the NC-17 (to no
> great effect as far as I can see) were 'The Cook, the Thief, His Wife
> and Her Lover' and 'Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!', neither of them
> particularly American...
Henry & June is the film that specifically got that changed and the inabilty
to find theaters without a rating or with an X was one of their legal
arguments - the case was "voided" by the introduction of the NC-17.
After that several distributors experimented with the possibilities of
the NC-17 and those two films were among the early test cases.
Neil
Scott Seifer
<snipped>
>In the US, I believe that showing anything more than a semi-erect penis is
>an automatic X/NC-17 rating. In a way, the terms 'soft-core' and
>'hard-core' can be used as a kind of (visual) rating guide. ;)
>Soft-core = R Hard-core = X/NC-17
I'd like to be present when the censors make that determination.
"Hey, look, that penis is semi-erect!"
"No, it's not, it's semi-flaccid!"
-Scott
Roberto A. Quezada
Roger D. Cullman
Showing an erect one on film in England will get your film classed as
obscene. The movie will be banned immediately from cinema and TV, with
the possibility of *criminal prosecution* for the directors!
If I'm not mistaken, the British film, "Angels and Insects" has one such
scene. And I saw it, so it couldn't have been banned Ñ at least not in
Canada. What say you to that, hound?
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Tim Shippert
>It's a double standard. It's hard to find an R-rated film
>that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
>leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits
Yup, its a double standard - showing _male_ nipples won't even get
you a PG rating.
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Frank Morris Miller
>: >Just out of curiosity - given the MPAA's problems with full-frontal
>: >male nudity, what rating did 'A Room With A View' get in the US? (I
>: >can't think of a single European country where it was given anything
>: >stronger than a PG)
To which somebody replied:
>: I don't think foreign films have to be rated here.....and yes, the bathing
>: scene is intact!
To which Michael Ritchie replied:
>I don't believe that for a moment - there's no way it would have got
>all those Oscar nominations if the film had been unrated (not least
>because of the number of cinemas that would have refused to show it,
>and newspapers that would have refused to take advertising).
I just checked the film in both Leonard Maltin and John Willits's "Screen
World," both of which list it as unrated. Though there are limited
venues for unrated films, it's not as limited as the marked for the X or
NC-17. There's also more flexibility for a film like "A Room With a
View" with little in the way of overt sexual content but a heaping
helping of culture. The distributor may well have kept this film away
from the Code and Ratings Administration (CARA), I don't recall reading
anything about it, to protect the bathing scene, but that didn't stop the
film's wide distribution. BTW, many video stores that refuse X and NC-17
films will carry their unrated versions. This can lead to some confusion
with three versions of the same film floating around (X, R and unrated).
Franklin, who has written a book on the production code and ratings
system but wouldn't want to appear to be spamming by urging all of you to
run out and buy "Censored Hollywood: Sex, Sin & Violence on Screen."
rwa...@gcn.scri.fsu.edu
>Bruce Lee <bl...@erols.com> wrote:
>>What are body suits?
This has been discussed here before, but it's appropriate to this
thread, so what the hell.
The deal with TATTOO was that Maud denied then, and has to this day,
that there was ever any real sex between herself and Dern.
The only case that I know of where BOTH actors in a scene admit that
they were really getting it on was an early-'70s flick called BOXCAR
BERTHA, where the principals in question were Barbara Hershey, who
called herself "Seagull" at the time, and David KUNG FU Carradine. The
two were live-in lovers at the time and both stoned out of their
gourds, and in the text accompanying a set of stills from the movie in
"Playboy", they both admitted that they just sort of shut the crew out
of their minds and went for it.
Michael S Ritchie
Frank Morris Miller <jou...@panther.Gsu.EDU> wrote:
>To which Michael Ritchie replied:
>
>>I don't believe that for a moment - there's no way it would have got
>>all those Oscar nominations if the film had been unrated
I just wanted to point out that this was Michael *Brooke*, not Michael
Ritchie (me). I do believe that unrated movies can garner
nominations and do solid art-house biz, as I posted in reply
to M. Brooke myself.
--M.
Brad Filippone
: On 7 Apr 1996, it was written:
: > It's a double standard. It's hard to find an R-rated film
: > that doesn't have at least one obligatory scene showing the
: > leading lady getting out of bed and displaying her tits and
: > muff for the camera, but they ban penises. Shows that H'wood
: > is still controlled by hetero males.
: It is irrelevant who Hollywood is "controlled" by. I would guess that
: Hollywood has just as many homosexuals as heterosexuals, if not more.
: Hollywood is indeed controlled by the movie-goer. If the viewer payed to
: see penises (erect or flaccid), you could bet that they would have the
: screen filled with them. However, since most heterosexual couples that
: go to the movies are payed for by the male and most males don't care to
: pay to view male genitalia, the producers are not going to put them on
: the screen.
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I heard once that the reason we don't see more male genetalia ( and I
think the argument is stupid, im not condoning it by reporting it) is
that the penis is the "aggresser" while the female genitalia is usually
passive. Why this makes it bad to show a penis is anybody's guess!
Anonymous
but I didn't count...)
Neil Sarver
> How about the supposed "masterpiece" The Last Picture Show?" If I
> remember there was male frontal nudity in that and also in Mandingo.
> So what are you talking about? Just to state I thought both of the
> above mentioned films were garbage and only accidently saw the films.
I don't recall the nudity in the bizarrely entertaining Mandingo
(somebody should start a thread about that wacky-ass thing), but the
only male nudity I recall in Last Picture Show was druing that weird
party not during a sex scene, so their flaccidity was logical.
I think we're losing track of the point here. This thread was about
visible flaccid penises in scenes where they don't belong - mainly
sex scenes. I'm not sure I - or anyone - am interested in a catalog
of every flaccid penis in the history of film.
Neil
Neil Sarver
explain the R-Rating Paul Verhoeven's "Spetters" got. Both the video I
rented of it and the airing on Starz claimed to be Rated R, but it has
three semi-erect penises (in the measuring scene), an erect penis and
contact with the erect penis by a person of the opposite sex (a hand job)
and a male-on-male gang rape scene. Good film, but it would have seemed
to me to have slipped past MPAA favor with all that.
Neil
Frank Morris Miller
Mea culpa for both the mistaken attribution and for creating yet another
self-referential post. After putting this up, I saw Mr. Ritchie's
subsequent reply and realized I had made a mistake. My only excuse is
that I am so dazzled by Mr. Brooke's postings (and I'm actually being
sincere here) that I could not make myself believe that he had committed
an understandable error (after all, he's not subject to the inanities of
the American ratings system). Apologies again. Now, back to your cults.
Franklin
AlenSmithe
p-p-p-p-p-personal.
Philo D.
> I don't recall the nudity in the bizarrely entertaining Mandingo
Sure: Perry King frontal nudity, when he gets ready for sex
with the slave girl.
100267
> Wait a sec!!!
> Take the movie "Kids". 15 thru 17 year old actors and actresses
> (obviously not in body suits) thumping up and down on each other
> in bed and you mean to tell me that that kid never actually stuck
> it in?
>
> that's will power
No, that's willy power :-) (apologies for the silly humour on such a
serious subject)
China
Adam Neil Villani
Michael Brooke <mic...@everyman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>I don't believe that for a moment - there's no way it would have got
>because of the number of cinemas that would have refused to show it,
>and newspapers that would have refused to take advertising).
>
>experienced it at first hand, but I thought a rating was more or less
>compulsory if you wanted any kind of decent release - *regardless* of
>the film's country of origin. After all, two of the major players in
>the row over ratings that led to the introduction of the NC-17 (to no
>great effect as far as I can see) were 'The Cook, the Thief, His Wife
>and Her Lover' and 'Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down!', neither of them
>particularly American...
The films of the last couple of years that performed the best without the
benefit of an MPAA rating were The Madness of King George and Eat Drink
Man Woman, which both got somewhere between $10 and $30 million at the box
office (obviously, I can't remember the actual figures). They were both
distributed by the Samuel Goldwyn company. Of course, had they been rated,
they would have been PG or PG-13. The best-performing movie that would
have had an NC-17 was, I believe, Kids. I can't remember how much it
made, but I think it was somewhere around $9 million.
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: > Wait a sec!!!
: > Take the movie "Kids". 15 thru 17 year old actors and actresses
: > (obviously not in body suits) thumping up and down on each other
: > in bed and you mean to tell me that that kid never actually stuck
: > it in?
That is why they received the parts. They are professional actors. As
actors, they ACT like they are doing something, imitate reality, and do
not actually cross the divide between imitating and being a character.
-Mandy the Mighty Mouse
Malcolm Taylor
>
> neil,
>
> i couldnt agree more. oh, and the plural for penis is, actually, peni.
>
> joel
Would you believe "penes"?
Postmodem1
although they looked 15 to 17, were actually 18+. otherwise, it would
have been child pornography.
Jedster
> >>The first movie I ever worked on, one of the actresses was
> telling me and the other wardrobe chick how totally repulsed
> she was by the ugly little mole man she was doing a love
> scene with who had gotten an ugly *little* boner against her
> leg.
>
> Must've been Ron Jeremy!!
>
Oh. C'mon. The guy can give himself a knobber. Not too many men with
that talent (if one dare's to call it that) and certainly not very many
with "*little* boner's".
Neil Sarver
> >Andy Herzing wrote:
> >> How about the supposed "masterpiece" The Last Picture Show?" If I
> >> remember there was male frontal nudity in that and also in Mandingo.
> >> So what are you talking about? Just to state I thought both of the
> >> above mentioned films were garbage and only accidently saw the films.
> Two comments to this:
> 1) I'd like to hear the justification for calling a movie as moving and starkly
> beautiful as The Last Picture Show garbage and
> 2) If watching it was accidental, what do you watch intentionally.
> Steven Janas
See how easy it is to just leave me out of it. Last Picture Show is one of my
favorite movies.
Neil
G Bell
handle, if you'll pardon the phraseology, an erect penis. So no erect
willies anywhere be it porn mags for women (the creatively titled "For
Women"), tv (there's quite a lot of limp willies shown on British tv) and
movies the most notable being Sebastien and clips from Mysteries of the
Orgasm. Willies have to have the appearance, as these are judged, of
the Mull of Kintyre on the west coast of Scotland, I kid ye not!
Incidently Sebastien is the only film that by law has to be cut for
Brtish tv, any others are banned outright under the draconian
obscenity laws, draconian in that nobody can figure out what the hell
they mean.
Graham
Steven Janas
>Andy Herzing wrote:
>
>> How about the supposed "masterpiece" The Last Picture Show?" If I
>> remember there was male frontal nudity in that and also in Mandingo.
>> So what are you talking about? Just to state I thought both of the
>> above mentioned films were garbage and only accidently saw the films.
>
>only male nudity I recall in Last Picture Show was druing that weird
>party not during a sex scene, so their flaccidity was logical.
>
>I think we're losing track of the point here. This thread was about
>visible flaccid penises in scenes where they don't belong - mainly
>sex scenes. I'm not sure I - or anyone - am interested in a catalog
>of every flaccid penis in the history of film.
>
> Neil
1) I'd like to hear the justification for calling a movie as moving and satrkly beautiful as The Last
2) If watching it was accidental, what do you watch intentionally.
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Anonymous
(Postmodem1) wrote:
> also, all of the actors in the movie "kids" appearing in sex scenes,
> although they looked 15 to 17, were actually 18+.
You're wrong about that.
> otherwise, it would
> have been child pornography.
You'll have to ask Janet Reno about this.
J S
>also, all of the actors in the movie "kids" appearing in sex scenes,
>although they looked 15 to 17, were actually 18+. otherwise, it would
>have been child pornography.
Ya know...I was arguing about this with someone just the other
day...there is NO WAY the young girl doing it with Telly in the first
scene is over 18. I doubt she was over *15*. And Telly himself...he
certainly didn't look (or sound) over 18 either. Another thing I
questioned: What about those 9 - 11 year olds who were smoking a
joint in the party scene? It was *obvious* they were really smoking.
Isn't there some sort of law involving minors and drugs on film?
Just wondering.
Perry Paolantonio
bothers me about the title. The plural for penis is "penes," not penises.
If this thread is not going to die, then let's at least get the spelling
right...
--
-perry paolantonio
kinopravda productions
http://www.tiac.net/users/perryp
Mark Deyoung
seen two and its nothing but dry humping.
Any other opinions
Mark
Andrew Shore
A friend of mine once told me and another friend, completely out of the
blue, that he could suck himself off. I was taken aback, but was still
curious to see if he actually could, although I didn't want to come out
and ask for a demonstration. But Greg seemed so grossed out that we let
the matter drop.
--
AS
"When a man gets too straight he's just a god damned prick."
- William S. Burroughs
Rothwang
Filippone) wrote:
> Jedster (jed...@animal.blarg.net) wrote:
> : On 7 Apr 1996, it was written:
>
snipsnip (Ow)
One word: Braveheart. Many ladies I know raved on that one.
It is a true Scottish battle tradition too!
Jim E
>Bundy writes:
>
>)))James Brolin had a monster woodie when he was in bed with Shannon
>Tweed in Indecent Behavior II.(((
>
>Great. An actor and an actress no one could possibly care about in a film
>no one has heard of... this is information we all need...
Be nice, Jeff. I worked on two movies with Shannon and she was always
a very gracious and pleasant person, in contrast to many of the
muttonhead players you find on these sorts of pictures. I wish her
plenty of success.
Jim
Jon Jorden
>>Tweed in Indecent Behavior II.(((
>>
>>Great. An actor and an actress no one could possibly care about in a film
>>no one has heard of... this is information we all need...
>
>Be nice, Jeff. I worked on two movies with Shannon and she was always
>a very gracious and pleasant person, in contrast to many of the
>muttonhead players you find on these sorts of pictures. I wish her
>plenty of success.
>
my question is has she ever been in a non-T&A film?
in thinking about actors for my eventual work (oh sure... i still have to
write the stuff), the b-actors many times turn up in films so devoid of
thought that it's hard to judge their abilities (well other than writhing
around with the hunky action hero)
jon
map
>>Tweed in Indecent Behavior II.(((
>>
>>Great. An actor and an actress no one could possibly care about in a film
>>no one has heard of... this is information we all need...
>
>Be nice, Jeff. I worked on two movies with Shannon and she was always
>a very gracious and pleasant person, in contrast to many of the
>muttonhead players you find on these sorts of pictures. I wish her
>plenty of success.
>
>
>
Shannon Tweed Might be a very nice person, but she's one of those
actresses men watch with the sound off. No one wants to hear her talk,
just take her clothes off!!
Jim E
In which case she is a very important person indeed. If hearing her
take her clothes off is such an exciting experience in and of itself,
Shannon could become one of the first great links between motion
pictures and the blind.
JE
Anonymous
> I haven't been following this thread, but there's something that really
> bothers me about the title. The plural for penis is "penes," not penises.
One is the Latin plural, the other the English plura. Both
are correct, according to my dictionary.
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>
>I haven't been following this thread, but there's something that really
>bothers me about the title. The plural for penis is "penes," not penises.
>
>right...
>
penis n,pl penes or PENISES
So there!