Northern Exposure
James J. Dibenedetto
A week or two ago, I posted on here that I was working on a script idea
for Northern Exposure...I have finished the script...if anybody wants
to read it (and critique it for me, if you like!), please email me,
as I'd rather not post it on here (I don't even know if it would be
approproatew to post a script on here anyway)...
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also v064...@ubvms.buffalo.edu | once...I ate his liver with fava
SUNY Buffalo School of Law '94 (days) | beans and a nice Chianti."
Prophet of Doom (evenings and weekends) | - Hannibal Lecter
Amie Hamilton
I am an avid fan of Northern Exposure!!! I LIVE for monday nights at 10 pm. As
usual, last night was no exception for watching the show. At the end, however,
I got the sinking feeling that when he said "Goodnight Sicily." and they
started showing the pictures that this was the last show. Is there anyone
out there who knows the show schedule and are there ther fans out there too?
I heard that the show caught on, but I don't know how well it is really doing.
Anyone know what the plans are for this show? Also, I have no VCR and was not
able to tape the shows. Is there a way I can get tapes of all the shows (I
have yet to see a bad one) for when I do get a VCR down the road? I would love
to have the entire collection!!
Amie
June Cummins Lewis
>
>I am an avid fan of Northern Exposure!!! I LIVE for monday nights at 10 pm. As
>usual, last night was no exception for watching the show. At the end, however,
>I got the sinking feeling that when he said "Goodnight Sicily." and they
>started showing the pictures that this was the last show. Is there anyone
Yes, I got that impression, too! Didn't it seem very final and
poignant? We thought that maybe it was the last episode of the
season, but then remembered that May sweeps are still ahead of us.
Any ideas about this?
June (a little worried)
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June Cummins Lewis
James Barrett
>I am an avid fan of Northern Exposure!!! I LIVE for monday nights at 10 pm. As
>usual, last night was no exception for watching the show. At the end, however,
>I got the sinking feeling that when he said "Goodnight Sicily." and they
>started showing the pictures that this was the last show. Is there anyone
According to TV Watch in the ATlanta Journal-Constitution today (3/10),
Nothern Exposure was just renewed for 2 more seasons (50 episodes)
yesterday. YEAH!
-----------------------------21 days to OS/2 v2.0!!-----------------------------
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Georgia Tech College of Computing | Only they mate for life." - D.Barry
Robert J. Granvin
|> In article <1992Mar10.1...@hubcap.clemson.edu> am...@hubcap.clemson.edu (Amie Hamilton) writes:
|> >
|> >I am an avid fan of Northern Exposure!!! I LIVE for monday nights at 10 pm. As
|> >usual, last night was no exception for watching the show. At the end, however,
|> >I got the sinking feeling that when he said "Goodnight Sicily." and they
|> >started showing the pictures that this was the last show. Is there anyone
|>
|> Yes, I got that impression, too! Didn't it seem very final and
|> poignant? We thought that maybe it was the last episode of the
|> season, but then remembered that May sweeps are still ahead of us.
|> Any ideas about this?
I got the exact opposite impression, that we're about to see some
(somewhat minor) changes.
The camera panned across the faces of people enjoying themselves (at
Joel's!) and the stopped and held on Joel and O'Connell. It seemed
in the photo that they were not only enjoying the party, but each
others company (more than usual).
Add to this the berating of Joel for making it clear that he's "only
passing through" and Holling commenting that he likes him, but that
Joel is too much of a loner to be _really_ considered a friend.
This all started with the opening sequence where Joel is writing the
letter basically telling how lucky he feels and (essentially) how
wonderful of a place this is.
It all adds up to what might be a change in attitude for Joel toward
the place and its people.
In any case, I would expect a final episode to end with more of a bang
or a stronger emotional device. This just seemed more like setting
up the next chapter.
--
Robert J. Granvin School of Statistics
r...@umnstat.stat.umn.edu University of Minnesota
Amie Hamilton
>am...@hubcap.clemson.edu (Amie Hamilton) writes:
>>stuff deleted ...
>According to TV Watch in the ATlanta Journal-Constitution today (3/10),
>Nothern Exposure was just renewed for 2 more seasons (50 episodes)
>yesterday. YEAH!
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone got airdates for the rest of this season and or any
yummy tidbits on any shows?
me again
James D. Jones
>am...@hubcap.clemson.edu (Amie Hamilton) writes:
>
>Nothern Exposure was just renewed for 2 more seasons (50 episodes)
>yesterday. YEAH!
Good. Counting this season, NE already has about 32 episodes in the can.
Add the extra 50 and they have a sure ticket to SyndicationLand. Nice news
for the producers, the cast, and for current or future viewers who'll have
missed the earlier episodes. I just hope the producers don't get too
complacent. They should continue to take risks and try new things.
Robert Schmunk
|> I got the exact opposite impression, that we're about to see some
|> (somewhat minor) changes.
|>
|> The camera panned across the faces of people enjoying themselves (at
|> Joel's!) and the stopped and held on Joel and O'Connell. It seemed
|> in the photo that they were not only enjoying the party, but each
|> others company (more than usual).
It's been time for the Joel-Maggie relationship to change for some time.
Several of the fall episodes seemed to indicate that things might be about
to break loose. For instance in the 3rd season premier, Maggie invites Joel
over for dinner, but "nothing kinky." Later when Elaine shows up after her
sudden widowhood, Maggie was showing sure signs of repressed jealousy.
And then in the Halloween episode, it looked like Joel was getting ready
to do something about his feelings for Maggie. Waht happens? The show
immediately startes a series of episodes in which Maggie and Joel seemed to
hardly interact at all; at most a hello on the street. I was glad to see
them at least talking to each other in last night's episode, and in the election episode two weeks back. Whether or not they get together, I'm not too
concerned about, but the storyline possibilities involving their interaction
are much greater than with other characters of the show, plus I've always
enjoyed the interaction between them and the clash of their backgrounds.
--
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Charles Blair
>The camera panned across the faces of people enjoying themselves (at
>Joel's!) and the stopped and held on Joel and O'Connell. It seemed
>in the photo that they were not only enjoying the party, but each
>others company (more than usual).
Don't forget the scene with Joel & Maggie alone after the departure
of the exorcist.
Doug Harris
In response to the people wondering about the feeling of finality in
the 3/9 episode...
No, no, no....
Ever notice how most episodes have two or three threads that involve
different characters and unrelated events but are thematically joined,
often with the help of the town chorus a la Chris Stevens? This
episode had Joel with the ghost, Maurice's visit with the colonel, and
Chris narrating the mood from K-Bear (with Eve's story added for
comedy). The Joel and Maurice threads dealt with mortality and human
interdependence. Joel learns about Jack and learns more about
himself and his social needs. Maurice's conflict with mortality (the
colonel's, not his) is best summed up in his comment to Joel, "Don't
tell me he's just human, I've got too many humans as it is". Chris,
in classical chorus style, links and foreshadows as he ponders the
evolution of the cities -- respect for the dead, leading to tribes,
leading to cities. Joel has come to respect his "roommate", Maurice
comes back to earth (at 70 mph and into a tree), Joel has a party and
the whole tribe is there. Choral Chris sums things up with the
Einstein quote and the tribal theme is rubbed in with the closing
shots and sounds from the party.
This isn't final. This is a new community.
And Eve is preggers.
Does anybody know what the music was that was playing at the end
during the panning around the party picture? It was a male vocalist
singing (but not a song with lyrics) over soft music. Please help me,
I loved it.
doug
--
Doug Harris do...@panix.com
Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.
- Mark Twain
k...@ccu.umanitoba.ca
>|> The camera panned across the faces of people enjoying themselves (at
>|> Joel's!) and the stopped and held on Joel and O'Connell. It seemed
>|> in the photo that they were not only enjoying the party, but each
>|> others company (more than usual).
>
Actually as the camera panned over the photograph I was sure that the
GHOST would appear over someone's shoulder...
Ken De Cruyenaere U of Manitoba
James D. Jones
I expected to see the ghost in the photo (smoking a pipe and lifting a
beer) and was a bit disappointed when this didn't happen. Oh well, maybe
too obvious...
Jim Napier
Just to add my 2 cents to the observations about last night's show-
1) I completely agree Chris is beginning to get long-winded. It's always been
interesting the way all the characters in this show reveal an intellectual
level that's hard to believe but that's part of the show's charm. But
Chris's ramblings are starting to sound like filler to pad out the episodes.
2) I was very surprised when they panned over the photograph that an image of
the ghost didn't appear in it but now I think that's exactly what they
wanted everyone to think. It looks like it was just a way of showing that
Joel had broken through socially (especially the way they lingered on him
and Maggie at the end).
3) Did anyone else think there was an incongruity in the way they described the
suicide? Supposedly the guy blew his brains out yet Maggie said that he
"left a note...sort of" by crawling over to a wall and writing "Alone,alone"
in his own blood. I may be splitting hairs here but I can't see a guy with
his head blown away doing anything but bleeding profusely.
Jim Napier
UC San Diego
John Carey
>Just to add my 2 cents to the observations about last night's show-
>2) I was very surprised when they panned over the photograph that an image of
> the ghost didn't appear in it but now I think that's exactly what they
> wanted everyone to think. It looks like it was just a way of showing that
> Joel had broken through socially (especially the way they lingered on him
> and Maggie at the end).
I was a little surprised too. But nobody ever really said that the ghost
really existed. I am sure that the people in Cicely had seen this before--
a guy from civilization starts to get lonely and starts hearing things.
So they decide to tell him this story about the other guy that had gone
off the deep end, hoping to scare some sense into him. Well, they eventually
did, although Joel probably took it much more literally than they might
have intended. The scene with the exorcist was hilarious.
>3) Did anyone else think there was an incongruity in the way they described the
> suicide? Supposedly the guy blew his brains out yet Maggie said that he
> "left a note...sort of" by crawling over to a wall and writing "Alone,alone"
> in his own blood. I may be splitting hairs here but I can't see a guy with
> his head blown away doing anything but bleeding profusely.
Sure, old ghost stories tend to pick up gruesome details for dramatic
effect. But a head injury is not necessarily instantly fatal. If he
didn't hit something crucial, he would bleed to death eventually.
On the subject of Chris, I think they are trying to return his role to
the "greek chorus" idea. We have hardly seen him outside of the radio
station for the last few episodes.
--
John Carey
University of Illinois
Dept. of Computer Science
ca...@a.cs.uiuc.edu {uu-net,pur-ee,convex,...}!uiucdcs!carey
Robert J. Granvin
|> suicide? Supposedly the guy blew his brains out yet Maggie said that he
|> "left a note...sort of" by crawling over to a wall and writing "Alone,alone"
|> in his own blood. I may be splitting hairs here but I can't see a guy with
|> his head blown away doing anything but bleeding profusely.
It's very easy to bleed before shooting ones self, though. A bullet
killed him, but that doesn't preclude slashed wrists or even a carefully
orchestrated bloodletting.
Morris Bernstein
>
>Just to add my 2 cents to the observations about last night's show-
>
>1) I completely agree Chris is beginning to get long-winded. It's always been
> interesting the way all the characters in this show reveal an intellectual
> level that's hard to believe but that's part of the show's charm. But
> Chris's ramblings are starting to sound like filler to pad out the episodes.
Hard to argue with this. I like the character and his monologues
(especially his introspective moodiness), but it's one-dimensional to
have him sitting (isolated) in the radio station commenting on what's
going on around him. He needs to get out more, like he did in earlier
episodes.
Maybe he should start something with that itinerant ophthalmologist
(yes, I looked it up in the dictionary). Maybe not; it was just a
brief infatuation.
I'ld like to see more of his scuptures.
>
>2) I was very surprised when they panned over the photograph that an image of
> the ghost didn't appear in it but now I think that's exactly what they
> wanted everyone to think. It looks like it was just a way of showing that
> Joel had broken through socially (especially the way they lingered on him
> and Maggie at the end).
I completely missed the cliche. Of course, the ghost should have been
in the photograph :-). I just took the scene at face value, showing the
characters having fun and being themselves, even as they grow through
life.
Either the ghost wasn't 'real' (after all, we all know that ghosts
don't exist), or the ghost was, as was suggested (by Ruth-Ann?),
warning Joel not to isolate himself. Hence, by throwing the party,
Joel allowed the ghost to finally achieve peace (defrocked priests
notwithstanding).
I liked the way Maggie and Joel are starting to get along. At least I
picked up on that :-). It's nice to have the writers thoughfully and
carefully developing the characters. One of the most charming points
about the show is how rich and complex the characters can be.
>
>3) Did anyone else think there was an incongruity in the way they described the
> suicide? Supposedly the guy blew his brains out yet Maggie said that he
> "left a note...sort of" by crawling over to a wall and writing "Alone,alone"
> in his own blood. I may be splitting hairs here but I can't see a guy with
> his head blown away doing anything but bleeding profusely.
I didn't save the tape (sacrilege!), but it bothered me too. The way
I interpreted it was that Ruth-Ann never actually described the death,
except to say that he shot himself.
Joel hysterically filled all the gory details in his mind. This would
be consistent with his character.
Back to reality (which is still a crutch for those of us who can't
handle drugs)...
Morris
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Craig A. Simpson
I expected it as well and was also disappointed until I started to
think about it later. NE has been doing supernatural stories all
year (the trees talking and the frozen Frenchman, etc.) but
have never actually crossed the line. Remember Joel trying to
hear the trees talk?
I KNEW the ghost was at the party. Why show it? I like NE
because Cicely SEEMS like magical place, not because it IS
a magical place. If they start having visible ghosts then maybe
it will not seem as special.
--
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Mike Godfrey
> GHOST would appear over someone's shoulder...
You're not the only one....
--
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Dept of Comp Sci, UofT -- allegedly, the last words
mi...@turing.toronto.edu of Oscar Wilde
John Carey
more of a spirit. The Indians could see it, but I don't think any
of the white people saw it. (that is why Ed said that he believed in
ghosts when Joel asked him) (also in the tribal initiation episode
where Joel asks Ed if he had had any visions)
Really, the main character in the series is Ed.
marc.colten
> am...@hubcap.clemson.edu (Amie Hamilton) writes:
>
> >I am an avid fan of Northern Exposure!!! I LIVE for monday nights at 10 pm. As
> >usual, last night was no exception for watching the show. At the end, however,
> >I got the sinking feeling that when he said "Goodnight Sicily." and they
> >started showing the pictures that this was the last show. Is there anyone
>
> According to TV Watch in the ATlanta Journal-Constitution today (3/10),
> Nothern Exposure was just renewed for 2 more seasons (50 episodes)
> yesterday. YEAH!
I'm sure glad to hear this, as I also thought that they were "wrapping
things up". BTW - was anyone else hoping that the ghost would show
up in the photo, maybe behind Joel? I was kind of hoping but no
such luck.
marc colten
Will B Bell
Hi folks. I haven't seen the r.a.tv FAQ for a while so let me post this
friendly reminder...
We've developed an abbreviation scheme that we use when we talk about our
favorite shows. This is so that people who aren't interested in your
show can "kill" the articles they don't want to read.
Just include the appropriate abbreviation in the "subject" as I have done
in this posting. (NEXP seems to be an alternate abbrev. for this show.)
Thanks!
WBB
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Lance Cogsworth Smith
>ji...@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
>>In article <1992Mar11....@ccu.umanitoba.ca> k...@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
>>>In article <1992Mar10....@rice.edu> sch...@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk) writes:
>>> Actually as the camera panned over the photograph I was sure that the
>>I expected to see the ghost in the photo (smoking a pipe and lifting a
>>beer) and was a bit disappointed when this didn't happen. Oh well, maybe
>>too obvious...
>I KNEW the ghost was at the party. Why show it? I like NE
>because Cicely SEEMS like magical place, not because it IS
>a magical place. If they start having visible ghosts then maybe
>it will not seem as special.
I think the picture, the camera countdown and then the scanning of the
photo all suggested that we'd see the ghost. The whole delay and slow
scan really set up our expectations.
On the other hand, they didn't let us hear the ghost talking, so why should
we see it? We assume that the ghost exists and maybe it really doesn't.
I think the point (if there is a point, I don't want to sound like a freshman
literature student) is that what was in the photo was what was important.
The living are more important than the dead. The real colonel, now, is more
important than how Maurice remembers him. Eve's expectations for new life
were more important than her concerns about illness and death.
Without sounding too much like Chris, (too late?) the final picture was sort
of the writers' way of tweaking us. Most of us (I'd guess) expected the
ghost and so we paid more attention to the picture than if it had just been
people having a good time. And that's not the way it should be.
But to sound way material, I'd spend big bucks to get a copy of that photo. It
would make a great poster...
(Born to Bingo)
--
Lance "Call me Norm" Smith | "Life's but a walking pitcher, a poor player,
(lsm...@cs.umn.edu) | That balks and frets his innings on the mound
Just another pathetic sheep, | And then is heard no more; it is a tale
following the flock. | Told by a manager, full of rosin and pine tar."
John F Carr
Is it common for shows to be renewed for more than one season at a time?
--
John Carr (j...@athena.mit.edu)
Lucien Dupont
>Does anybody know what the music was that was playing at the end
>during the panning around the party picture? It was a male vocalist
>singing (but not a song with lyrics) over soft music. Please help me,
>I loved it.
It was Bobby McFerrin.. it's off of an album that I picked up about a year
ago.. I can't remember the name right now, but I am 99% postive! :-)
Lucien
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Laura Randall
>
>This all started with the opening sequence where Joel is writing the
>letter basically telling how lucky he feels and (essentially) how
>wonderful of a place this is.
>
>It all adds up to what might be a change in attitude for Joel toward
>the place and its people.
On the contrary, I got an entirely different impression from this opening.
Joel is writing to his friend who has a job in a NYC big-time clinic or
hospital (can't remember exactly) and to make his friend envy Joel's
job in Alaska, Joel really tries to describe his situation as one he loves
not one he is crossing days off the callendar until the end.
One other comment - I think they are overusing Chris as the "chorus"
(as someone else described him). He is beginning to grate on me.
>
>In any case, I would expect a final episode to end with more of a bang
>or a stronger emotional device. This just seemed more like setting
>up the next chapter.
>
yup....probably true.
Laura Randall
CSU, Chico
A.D.C.Elly
I've seen articles about "Northern Exposure" in this group.
I believe the show will begin showing here in England on
Channel 4 this week.
Could anybody out there mail or post me with an idea of what
the show is about. Is it comedy? Who's in it? Is it doing
well in the US? How long has it been running?
A summary of the show and answers to these questions would be
well appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Adrienne
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Jo Theis
>In <craig.700339520@sibelius> cr...@unx.sas.com (Craig A. Simpson) writes:
>
>
>But to sound way material, I'd spend big bucks to get a copy of that photo. It
>would make a great poster...
What a fine, fine idea! Andy, do you know if there's a way to
explore this possibility? I would dearly love to have a poster
of that picture.
>
>(Born to Bingo)
>--
> Lance "Call me Norm" Smith | "Life's but a walking pitcher, a poor player,
> (lsm...@cs.umn.edu) | That balks and frets his innings on the mound
> Just another pathetic sheep, | And then is heard no more; it is a tale
> following the flock. | Told by a manager, full of rosin and pine tar."
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Jo Theis
n2...@cray.com
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Dennis Doubleday
In article <1992Mar11.1...@bnrmtl.bnr.ca>, mor...@samson.bnr.ca (Morris Bernstein) writes:
|> In article <15...@deadmin.ucsd.edu> nap...@sierra.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier) writes:
|> >2) I was very surprised when they panned over the photograph that an image of
|> > the ghost didn't appear in it but now I think that's exactly what they
|> > wanted everyone to think. It looks like it was just a way of showing that
|> > Joel had broken through socially (especially the way they lingered on him
|> > and Maggie at the end).
|>
|> I completely missed the cliche. Of course, the ghost should have been
|> in the photograph :-). I just took the scene at face value, showing the
|> characters having fun and being themselves, even as they grow through
|> life.
My interpretation was that it was reflection on our shared human condition,
the fact that we will all be "ghosts" someday, only our photgraphic images
there for later generations to see, just like the picture of Jack that Joel
kept looking at. It ties in with the earlier conversation with Maggie and
Holling--when Maggie says "you've made it very clear that you're just passing
through" she is talking about Joel's assignment in Alaska, but the line also
has a metaphysical allusion--we are all "just passing through", and we can
let our brief existence slip away or we can make the most of it by reaching
out to others and really living.
Dennis Doubleday (d...@sei.cmu.edu)
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213 (412)268-5873
George Fergus
sh...@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
>>In article <1992Mar10....@rice.edu> sch...@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk) writes:
>> Actually as the camera panned over the photograph I was sure that the
>>
>
>beer) and was a bit disappointed when this didn't happen. Oh well, maybe
>too obvious...
>
My wife and I expected this as soon as Holling set up his camera and we
were watching for a GHOST somewhere in the picture. The picture as a whole
wasn't up long enough for a detailed look and I didn't get a chance to
back and check it on tape yet. But I thought I saw somebody with a pipe
standing in the background in the upper left corner. Perhaps I was trying
too hard to see something. I'll check tonight.
Sam.
Linda Snow
>would make a great poster...
I was thinking the same thing. If anyone sees it offered for sale, please
inform the net.
.
.
.
.
Andrew Chia-Tso Ku
>In article <1992Mar12....@cs.umn.edu> lsm...@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Cogsworth" Smith) writes:
>>In <craig.700339520@sibelius> cr...@unx.sas.com (Craig A. Simpson) writes:
>>
>>
>>But to sound way material, I'd spend big bucks to get a copy of that photo. It
>>would make a great poster...
>
>What a fine, fine idea! Andy, do you know if there's a way to
>explore this possibility? I would dearly love to have a poster
>of that picture.
I'm surprised that no one's mentioned this yet, but the photograph
closeups are not all from the photo that hangs on the window
of the radio station. There are at least two differences:
Ruth-Anne is eating (a hot dog?) in Chris's photo, while she's laughing
in the close-up; and Maggie and Joel's heads are farther apart in Chris's
photo. I *think* Ed is in a different position as well (directly
facing the photo in the close-up). The close-ups of Eve (holding a mug),
Holling and Shelly (Holling's head on Shelly's shoulder), Maurice and
Marilyn, and Chris (sticking out his tongue) *are* from the group picture.
Andrew
Dan N. Bernardo
Turney) says:
>
>Doug Harris asks:
> Does anybody know what the music was that was playing at the end
> during the panning around the party picture? It was a male vocalist
> singing (but not a song with lyrics) over soft music. Please help me,
> I loved it.
>
>fragment from any of his albums. If you liked it and want to check
>him out, I'd recommend either "Spontaneous Inventions" (1986) or "The
>Voice" (1984). Both of these are live (as opposed to studio)
>recordings. The studio recordings "Bobby McFerrin" (year?) and
>"Simple Pleasures" (1988) are also very good.
>
The song is Bobby McFerrin's "Common Threads," which is on his
"Medicine Music" disc (1990, EMI-USA).
Dan
Kimiye Tipton;407-660-6472
>>But to sound way material, I'd spend big bucks to get a copy of that photo. It
>>would make a great poster...
>
>What a fine, fine idea! Andy, do you know if there's a way to
>explore this possibility? I would dearly love to have a poster
>of that picture.
Yes, but which picture? The long shot as Chris leaves the studio shows
Joel and Maggie at least arm's length apart, but by the time the closeup
pans back over to them, they are cuddling up. Different photos must
have been used in dissolves to get the best shots of each character.
But I agree--what a great poster. In fact, I'd like anything from NX
except that damned moose.
Kimiye Tipton ki...@kokomo.att.com or ki...@newsance.att.com Maitland, FL
"Wait a minute, Fleischman, you hate cigarettes. You always give me
a hard time when I light up--you don't smoke."
"Sometimes I do...after a good conversation."
fielden j.a.
No, in fact when I read about it in the paper it was commented upon
how unusual a step this was. It was attributed to the fact that
Northern Exposure was key in making CBS's Monday Night line up more
popular than NBC's Thursday Night lineup.
James D. Jones
>>
>>Is it common for shows to be renewed for more than one season at a time?
>how unusual a step this was. It was attributed to the fact that
>Northern Exposure was key in making CBS's Monday Night line up more
>popular than NBC's Thursday Night lineup.
I recall that this happened with "Night Court" a few years ago, and also
with "Brothers" (on Showtime). I remember hazily an article about the
Night Court renewal stating that such a move is desirable because it
makes the show automatically viable as a syndication property (i.e.,
it is guaranteed to have enough episodes). In the case of Night Court,
they were able to use this to pre-market the show to syndication, and
apparently the syndication market is hungry for material.
I don't know
if this type of thinking has a role in the NE renewal or not (unless CBS has a
piece of the show, and then I'd say yes, for sure). The risk with this
strategy, syndication-wise, is that the show might go downhill and lose
popularity during the next two years, so that nobody _wants_ to see it
in syndication.
William R Thompson
>Do any of you get the feeling that this show needs a newsgroup of its own?
Agreed! I second the rec.arts.nexp newsgroup!
--The Rook
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" 'It takes a big man to tame a big land.' "
--Maurice
" 'All we are are monkeys with car keys.' "
--Grandma Ed to Ed
Linda Snow
>Hello there!
>
>I've seen articles about "Northern Exposure" in this group.
>
>I believe the show will begin showing here in England on
>Channel 4 this week.
>
>Could anybody out there mail or post me with an idea of what
>the show is about. Is it comedy? Who's in it? Is it doing
>well in the US? How long has it been running?
>
>A summary of the show and answers to these questions would be
>well appreciated.
>
Once I got started I just couldn't stop.
You'll love it!
As far as who's in the show, virtually the entire cast was unknown
when the show debuted. Barry Corbin was the only recognizable face
(you may not know the name but you'll know the face -- he's been in
many movies). Later they added Adam Arkin who's fairly well-known.
All other questions covered in the following.
This does mention a few things that happen in some of the episodes,
so fanatical spoiler-avoiders beware!
INTRODUCTION TO NORTHERN EXPOSURE
The show premiered as a summer show (I think) in 1990, disappeared
for awhile, came back in winter 1991; became a regular show in fall of 1991.
One of those that you could swear was too good to last, it turned into a major
hit and has just been renewed for 2 full years. EVERYONE watches it.
Northern Exposure is set in the small, ficitional town of Cicely, Alaska.
The premise centers around Dr. Joel Fleischman, a young doctor from New York
who made an agreement with the State of Alaska to come and practice medicine
there for (4?) years in return for having his medical education paid for.
He had assumed he'd be practicing in Anchorage; when he arrived in the
first episode, he discovered he'd been reassigned to the boonies. He spent
the first few episodes frantically trying to get out of it, but found out
he'd not only have to repay the money; he'd go to jail too. In the process
he lost his New York girlfriend and he's still not resigned to the situation.
The residents of Cicely are, without exception, loony and lovable. The town
seems to exist in sort of an alternate universe, one you'd love to visit --
maybe permanently.
Main Characters
JOEL FLEISCHMAN -- Typical New York Jewish yuppie doctor, still complains
about missing New York delis and bagels and cultural things. Never understands
where any of the Cicely-ites are coming from. Most episodes revolve around
elements of Cicely culture that have Joel completely dumbfounded. He's
pretty self-centered but is getting over it. If the show has any central
theme at all, it's the contrast between the me-generation culture
(epitomized by Joel) and an
example of a true community (Cicely) of people who support and care about
each other even without the formality of family ties. It's interesting to
note that none of the main characters has a spouse, or any evidence of
family in attendance. (If you don't count Adam and Eve, see below).
MAGGIE O'CONNELL -- Airplane pilot, provides all air transportation in and
out of Cicely. Very independent, stubborn and vain; has a temper. She and
Joel have an up-and-down, love-hate relationship. It seems pretty certain
they'll end up in bed eventually, but they may be in the retirement home
before it happens. Her history includes a string of former boyfriends (5?)
all of who died on her. The latest one was Rick, the only one we ever saw:
he died when a satellite fell on him and sort of merged with his body, making
it difficult to get him in a casket. On a later episode Maggie was convinced
he was reincarnated as a German Shepherd. She used to have a shelf with
shrines to each of the dear departed, but it was destroyed when her visiting
mother recently (accidentally) burned her house down. She's also Joel's
landlady.
MAURICE MINIFIELD -- Former astronaut, connoisseur of music and gourmet food.
Was enamored for awhile of a semi-butch lady cop who dumped him because he
cheated on his taxes or some such thing.
SHELLY -- 19-20 year-old airhead-with-a-heart-of-gold. Former beauty queen
from the lower-48 or Canada (can't remember which), was imported to Cicely
by Maurice to be his sweetie, dumped him almost instantly for Holling, whom
she's been with ever since (this was all told in narration and flashbacks,
happened before the virtual time of the show).
HOLLING VINCOEUR -- Proprietor of The Brick, Cicely's social center. Early
60's and looks it but very well-preserved. Almost married Shelly early in the
show when she thought she was pregnant (turned out to be a false alarm), but
backed out because of his family history: seems all his male ancestors live
to be 100 or more but their wives die in middle age, leaving the men to mourn.
Guess he thought he could avert his fate by not marrying Shelly. But they're
still together and very devoted. (One of the most memorable episodes was
when Shelly discovered that Holling's "thing" was a little different and he
almost decided to get circumcised at his advanced age to please her. I just
kept sitting there saying "They're *not* really doing this on TV!").
MARILYN -- Very inscrutable Indian, she's Joel's receptionist. On one recent
episode a man in a traveling circus fell in love with her. He never spoke
except in mime but she always understood him.
ED -- Everyone's favorite character. He's Indian or part Indian, late teens
to early 20's, an aspiring film director. Knows everything about Woody
Allen and just about everything else about movies. Sort of innocent and
disingenuous, more intelligent than he appears.
CHRIS -- The radio announcer/DJ. Acts as a Greek chorus by providing
literary and philosophical commentary on what's happening in town. It was
recently revealed that he's an ex-con but I don't think they ever said
for what. A memorable couple of episodes revolved around his long-lost
half brother showing up in town; apparently their mutual father was a
travelling man and bigamist -- the "brother" happens to be black. (Pun
intended?) Chris has a seasonal "disease" where he emits these pheromones
or something that cause any woman who smells him to desire him. He was
very frustrated when a visiting eye doctor was immune to him.
RUTH ANN -- Runs the "general store"; she's about 75 and has been in
Cicely most of her life. Has grown children somewhere that she doesn't
see often. She's close friends with Ed.
ADAM -- Only shows up once every couple of months, he's a wild man who
lives in a shack out in the woods and used to be sort of a semi-mythical
character along the lines of Bigfoot, until Joel discovered him. He
sometimes comes to town now. He's a master chef who has eaten and cooked
all over the world and never makes anything that isn't to die for. He's
also totally foul-tempered about everything, all the time. He has a
wife, incredibly named.....
EVE -- who takes hypochondria to the same level that Adam takes gastronomy.
She talks medical tests and diseases the same way Adam talks herbs and
spices and is always convinced she's dying of something.
Toni Spurgeon
>
>I am an avid fan of Northern Exposure!!! I LIVE for monday nights at 10 pm. As
>usual, last night was no exception for watching the show. At the end, however,
>I got the sinking feeling that when he said "Goodnight Sicily." and they
>started showing the pictures that this was the last show. Is there anyone
\
Not to worry... it's been renewed for two more years... a very strong
show of support from CBS in these troubled times. It's my favorite show too!
unknown user
In article <ks220r...@male.EBay.Sun.COM> ji...@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
[shows being renewed for more than 1 year at a time]
>I recall that this happened with "Night Court" a few years ago, and also
>with "Brothers" (on Showtime). I remember hazily an article about the
>Night Court renewal stating that such a move is desirable because it
>makes the show automatically viable as a syndication property (i.e.,
>it is guaranteed to have enough episodes).
show to go into syndication (obviously more is better, and somehow some of
the cable companies seem to get shows that ran only a season!)... {I am
finally seeing "It's Your Move" on USA on the weekends sometimes! I remember
so many years ago, that show and "Night Court" were two that I really really
wanted to be renewed! Only "Night Court" was though.. both started mid-season
if I remember correctly}
>I don't know
>if this type of thinking has a role in the NE renewal or not (unless CBS has a
>piece of the show, and then I'd say yes, for sure). The risk with this
>strategy, syndication-wise, is that the show might go downhill and lose
>popularity during the next two years, so that nobody _wants_ to see it
>in syndication.
But hour-long shows do _crappy_ in syndication! It seems they want
sitcoms, sitcoms, and more sitcoms! (I want Wonder Years to go into
syndication! I sure wish someone would run them _uncut_ so I could get
copies on videotape, but that's a pipedream)
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the documentary "Stories from the Quilt", about the giant AIDS
quilt.
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Elaine Wenderholm
>In article <1992Mar12.1...@lmpsbbs.mot.com> you write:
>
>>Do any of you get the feeling that this show needs a newsgroup of its own?
>
>
>Agreed! I second the rec.arts.nexp newsgroup!
>
>
>--The Rook
> <wth...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>
I agree also.
Doug Harris
>ADAM -- Only shows up once every couple of months, he's a wild man who
>lives in a shack out in the woods and used to be sort of a semi-mythical
>character along the lines of Bigfoot, until Joel discovered him. He
>sometimes comes to town now. He's a master chef who has eaten and cooked
>all over the world and never makes anything that isn't to die for. He's
>also totally foul-tempered about everything, all the time. He has a
>wife, incredibly named.....
You forgot to mention Adam's other notable trait -- he's either in the
know about EVERYTHING (FBI, CIA, writes a column for the New Republic)
or he's the world's biggest liar. Joel holds the latter opinion. As
he said to Adam in one episode "Nobody should believe a word you say,
not even hello."
My advice to the English and anybody else about to get this show...
WATCH IT!!!
doug
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annoying than the piano when played by a sister or near relation.
John Barta
KT>except that damned moose.
What have you got against "Morty"? Every notice at the very
beginning of the show when Morty first appears that it looks like
he's been given a shove to speed him along? He starts off really
stepping-out, but immediately slowing to a more sedate pace, one
more befitting a moose of his station...
John
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HELD HOSTAGE -- YEAR ONE
> INTRODUCTION TO NORTHERN EXPOSURE
>
>MAURICE MINIFIELD -- Former astronaut, connoisseur of music and gourmet food.
>Was enamored for awhile of a semi-butch lady cop who dumped him because he
>cheated on his taxes or some such thing.
What? Do you not like Maurice? I can think of a great many things more to
say about Maurice Minifield. Though I suppose it would spoil a few of the
shows to do so. Like the fact that he set Joel up in Cicely, and then there's
his obsession with having a son (and then when he found out he HAD a son!),
and his infamous feuds with Holling and that Russian who visits Cicely.
Michael -- who doesn't even own a television, and misses Northern Exposure
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Greg Kwan
>>Hello there!
>>
>>I've seen articles about "Northern Exposure" in this group.
>
>
>The show premiered as a summer show (I think) in 1990, disappeared
>for awhile, came back in winter 1991; became a regular show in fall of 1991.
>One of those that you could swear was too good to last, it turned into a major
>hit and has just been renewed for 2 full years. EVERYONE watches it.
>
>Northern Exposure is set in the small, ficitional town of Cicely, Alaska.
>The premise centers around Dr. Joel Fleischman, a young doctor from New York
>who made an agreement with the State of Alaska to come and practice medicine
>there for (4?) years in return for having his medical education paid for.
In the last (3/9) episode, I seem to remember Marilyn asking Joel if she
should renew his subscription to the _The New Yorker_ for another 4 years.
He tells her *THREE* years. Since he arrived in Alaska in summer 1990,
shouldn't his 4 year contract be over in ~2 more years?
>SHELLY -- 19-20 year-old airhead-with-a-heart-of-gold. Former beauty queen
>from the lower-48 or Canada (can't remember which), was imported to Cicely
>by Maurice to be his sweetie, dumped him almost instantly for Holling, whom
>she's been with ever since (this was all told in narration and flashbacks,
>happened before the virtual time of the show).
Here's an airhead question: How could Shelley be "MISS Northwest Passage"
is she were already married to that Wayne guy?
>ED -- Everyone's favorite character. He's Indian or part Indian, late teens
>to early 20's, an aspiring film director. Knows everything about Woody
>Allen and just about everything else about movies. Sort of innocent and
>disingenuous, more intelligent than he appears.
I like the character Ed, but my favorite is Shelley. She gets the best
lines.
greg
(To borrow a quote about St. Elsewhere: "NEXP--the funniest half-hour in
television." ;-)
Leslie Hechtel
>
>I got the exact opposite impression, that we're about to see some
>(somewhat minor) changes.
I agree!
>The camera panned across the faces of people enjoying themselves (at
>Joel's!) and the stopped and held on Joel and O'Connell. It seemed
>in the photo that they were not only enjoying the party, but each
>others company (more than usual).
I hope they avoid this trap! (They do seem to have backed off it
considerably). These situations are always more interesting (on TV)
when the tension is there...but tension cannot be held over several
seasons (c.f. Remington Steel, Moonlighting), and whichever scenario
relieves the tension seems invariably to be less interesting. The
writers seemed to have settled on a prickly but maturing friendship;
I think that's sustainable and invites character growth.
>Add to this the berating of Joel for making it clear that he's "only
>passing through" and Holling commenting that he likes him, but that
>Joel is too much of a loner to be _really_ considered a friend.
>
>This all started with the opening sequence where Joel is writing the
>letter basically telling how lucky he feels and (essentially) how
>wonderful of a place this is.
>
>It all adds up to what might be a change in attitude for Joel toward
>the place and its people.
Yes, although _I_ took the opening scene as more of a "Joel lying through
his teeth to save face" situation. However, it may turn out he was
telling more truth than he thought.
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Joshua Delahunty
>KT>But I agree--what a great poster. In fact, I'd like anything from NX
>KT>except that damned moose.
>
>What have you got against "Morty"? Every notice at the very
>beginning of the show when Morty first appears that it looks like
>he's been given a shove to speed him along? He starts off really
>stepping-out, but immediately slowing to a more sedate pace, one
>more befitting a moose of his station...
>
They used bananas to keep 'im moving. "Guess he likes bananas."
They shipped him in just for those shot. Hollywood, you know.
Reminds me of the trouble they had with all the pigeons in
"Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves." It really ruins the magic when
you know... you know?
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Pamela T. Pon pam@btr.com
>KT>except that damned moose.
>
>What have you got against "Morty"?
I don't know about the original poster, but I think that the moose in the
show is fine -- while the moose currently used on the NX merchandise
is STUPID-looking!
Marvin H. Blachman
man...@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (HELD HOSTAGE -- YEAR ONE) writes:
>In article <9...@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>
ls...@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda
> Snow) writes:
>> INTRODUCTION TO NORTHERN EXPOSURE
>>
>>MAURICE MINIFIELD -- Former astronaut, connoisseur of music and gourmet food.
>>Was enamored for awhile of a semi-butch lady cop who dumped him because he
>>cheated on his taxes or some such thing.
>
>What? Do you not like Maurice? I can think of a great many things more to
>say about Maurice Minifield. Though I suppose it would spoil a few of the
>shows to do so. Like the fact that he set Joel up in Cicely, and then there's
>his obsession with having a son (and then when he found out he HAD a son!),
>and his infamous feuds with Holling and that Russian who visits Cicely.
>
>Michael -- who doesn't even own a television, and misses Northern Exposure
>
there. In fact, aside from owning (probably) half the county (with the
"Mayor" owning the other half), it was his vision, years ago, that the
town develop into the thriving metropolis it now is (or may someday be -
with shopping malls, fast food chains, etc.). He owns the local radio
station and newspaper, saying once that to get a town going, the
pioneers always started by setting up a local communication facility. He
has said that he likes to push buttons and be in the background rather
than to be an official leader, but his presence (and controlling
influences) are certainly a significant part of what Cicely is. He's
also best friends with Holling (although they've had their differences).
Just a few more things about one of my favorite characters (but that may
be obvious!)
Marvin
Nanette Reisor
=>
=>Joel is writing to his friend who has a job in a NYC big-time clinic or
=>hospital (can't remember exactly) and to make his friend envy Joel's
I believe the friend is in Texas. The name mentioned was the doctor in Texas
who was one of the pioneers in heart transplant surgery (sorry, I recognized
the name but can't remember it now.). But, in any case, it *is* an
impressive place to be working.
OK, I'll go away now...
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Larry W. Virden
:>>
:>>Is it common for shows to be renewed for more than one season at a time?
:> No, in fact when I read about it in the paper it was commented upon
:>how unusual a step this was. It was attributed to the fact that
:>Northern Exposure was key in making CBS's Monday Night line up more
:>popular than NBC's Thursday Night lineup.
:
:I recall that this happened with "Night Court" a few years ago, and also
:with "Brothers" (on Showtime). I remember hazily an article about the
Talking about shows being renewed for multiple seasons - anyone know what
the record is? I think it was Growing Pains - I seem to remember after
the first or second season the big deal made when it was renewed for something
like 5 years? Of course, my memory may be so totally shot from watching so
much TV that I am remembering two or more stories .... I know there is
SOMEONE out there who will provide definite collaboration or denial on
the second part of this (wrt Growing Pains).
But what about the first part - anyone know what the record for longest number
of seasons renewed - and did the show make it thru the renewal contract?
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Just another theatre geek.....
> But hour-long shows do _crappy_ in syndication! It seems they want
>sitcoms, sitcoms, and more sitcoms! (I want Wonder Years to go into
>syndication!
It will, shortly.
I sure wish someone would run them _uncut_ so I could get
>copies on videotape
Sorry, but Turner paid the syndie rights.
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The definition of having balls is a non-singer who goes karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue.
Just another theatre geek.....
>In article <1992Mar10....@news2.cis.umn.edu> r...@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:
>>This all started with the opening sequence where Joel is writing the
>>letter basically telling how lucky he feels and (essentially) how
>>wonderful of a place this is.
>his teeth to save face" situation. However, it may turn out he was
>telling more truth than he thought.
Oh, it definitely that. That's the beauty of that scene. It's BOTH.
Debra R.Douglass
I don't know about the original poster, but I think that the moose in the
show is fine -- while the moose currently used on the NX merchandise
is STUPID-looking!
Please, where can I get Nothern Exposure merchandise? Is there a
mail-order address?
-Debbie Douglass
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Patrick Delahanty
> --
> !Joshua Delahunty | jos...@altair.csustan.edu !
> ! Writing from: | (130.17.1.50) !
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> !Turlock, CA 95380 | (130.17.1.70) !
I know this isn't the time or the place...but...
I like your last name.
From Patrick Delahanty (Lewiston, Maine)
William R McDaniel
>
>man...@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (HELD HOSTAGE -- YEAR ONE) writes:
>>In article <9...@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>
>ls...@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda
>> Snow) writes:
>>> INTRODUCTION TO NORTHERN EXPOSURE
>>>
>>>MAURICE MINIFIELD -- Former astronaut, connoisseur of music and gourmet food.
>>>Was enamored for awhile of a semi-butch lady cop who dumped him because he
>>>cheated on his taxes or some such thing.
>>
>>What? Do you not like Maurice? I can think of a great many things more to
>>say about Maurice Minifield. Though I suppose it would spoil a few of the
>>shows to do so. Like the fact that he set Joel up in Cicely, and then there's
>>his obsession with having a son (and then when he found out he HAD a son!),
>>and his infamous feuds with Holling and that Russian who visits Cicely.
>>
>>Michael -- who doesn't even own a television, and misses Northern Exposure
>>
>
>Not only did he "set up Joel", he was instrumental in getting Joel
>there. In fact, aside from owning (probably) half the county (with the
>"Mayor" owning the other half), it was his vision, years ago, that the
>town develop into the thriving metropolis it now is (or may someday be -
>with shopping malls, fast food chains, etc.). He owns the local radio
>station and newspaper, saying once that to get a town going, the
>pioneers always started by setting up a local communication facility. He
I'm not sure, but I think this is illegal. I don't think the same
company or person can run both a newspaper and broadcast medium
(t.v. station or radio station) in the same town. I think its some
kind of FCC rule. If I'm wrong, sorry. If I'm right, this may be
an episode some day.
>Marvin
Bill
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Steve Strauss
} >...
} >with shopping malls, fast food chains, etc.). He owns the local radio
} >station and newspaper, saying once that to get a town going, the
} >pioneers always started by setting up a local communication facility. He
}
} I'm not sure, but I think this is illegal. I don't think the same
} company or person can run both a newspaper and broadcast medium
} (t.v. station or radio station) in the same town. I think its some
} kind of FCC rule. If I'm wrong, sorry. If I'm right, this may be
} an episode some day.
}
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engine was not working and you only had one hour of oxygen left,
what would you do during that hour?
Buzz Aldrin: "I would work on the engine."
Steve Strauss
Steve Strauss
} >...
} >with shopping malls, fast food chains, etc.). He owns the local radio
} >station and newspaper, saying once that to get a town going, the
} >pioneers always started by setting up a local communication facility. He
}
} I'm not sure, but I think this is illegal. I don't think the same
} company or person can run both a newspaper and broadcast medium
} (t.v. station or radio station) in the same town. I think its some
} kind of FCC rule. If I'm wrong, sorry. If I'm right, this may be
} an episode some day.
}
It's not illegal. In Dallas, A.H.Belo Corporation owns the Dallas
Morning News and the local ABC affiliate TV station.
David Esan
>I believe the friend is in Texas. The name mentioned was the doctor in Texas
>who was one of the pioneers in heart transplant surgery (sorry, I recognized
Michael DeBakey.
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Tom Streeter
If Maurice owned the paper and the radio station before the
cross-ownership rules were enacted, he could legally retain them. He
could not sell them as a package.
Of course, the way the FCC is changing policy, the law could change
before a script could be written (and changed again before the episode
went into rerun).
(ObTangentialPoint: I was teaching an Intro to Broadcasting course and
spent a day explaining the logic behind cross-ownership regulations. I
explained how those who owned their properties prior to the law being
passed were not affected, and I used the common phrase for such a
clause. I asked, toward the end of class, if there were any questions.
A hand shot up in the back (it was a class of about a hundred or so) and
a guys says: "Mr. Streeter, I understand everything you said, but I
still don't see what someone's grandfather had to do with selling a
newspaper!")(Made my day......)
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Toshi Tsuboi
|> Please, where can I get Nothern Exposure merchandise? Is there a
|> mail-order address?
|>
|> -Debbie Douglass
Exposure clothe line (supposibly released in the fall).
Now how many of you would like to dress like Adam?
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Marvin Heffler
|>In article <1992Mar12....@ecst.csuchico.edu>
lran...@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU writes:
|>=>
|>=>Joel is writing to his friend who has a job in a NYC big-time clinic or
|>=>hospital (can't remember exactly) and to make his friend envy Joel's
|>
|>I believe the friend is in Texas. The name mentioned was the doctor in Texas
|>who was one of the pioneers in heart transplant surgery (sorry, I recognized
|>the name but can't remember it now.). But, in any case, it *is* an
|>impressive place to be working.
|>
Actually, Joel's friend was working in Houston at Methodist Hospital with
Dr. Michael DeBakey, a world-renowned medical expert in many aspects of
heart disease. For someone aspiring to be a cardiac surgeon, this would
be a most impressive position to be in.
|>OK, I'll go away now...
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Kimiye Tipton;407-660-6472
Yep, that's what I meant. I'd much rather have a T-shirt of the Roslyn's
Cafe sign, and a poster of the cast from the ghost episode ("Lost and
Found"). And just to throw some gas on the fire--what does Morty
represent regarding the show, anyway? Besides being a Hollywood touch,
and a visual gag?
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Nancy Bulinski
(Toshi Tsuboi) says:
>
>In article <DDOUG.92M...@dl5000.bc.edu>, dd...@dl5000.bc.edu (Debra
>R.Douglass) writes:
>|> Please, where can I get Nothern Exposure merchandise? Is there a
>|> mail-order address?
>|>
>|> -Debbie Douglass
>I caught the end of a local news show, and they had a piece about Northern
>Exposure clothe line (supposibly released in the fall).
>
>Now how many of you would like to dress like Adam?
>
Would like to? I know some people who already do.
Malcolm Austin
and fellow fan, and I thought you folk would enjoy it. Insert smileys
as required, except where prohibited by law.] Article starts:
Bland ep of NX, I thought. The "Baby G" plotline just seemed like a
retread of the "Unknown Corpse" line, but not as interesting. And I
am beginning to think Chris has totally lost touch with reality.
The Shelly vs Tammy plot wasn't much better. I think I've figured out what
annoys me about Shelly. Her plotlines always set you up to expect some
moment of real emotion or sensitivity, and then she always falls short. Her
basic "virtue" is that nothing deeply concerns her. I expected some sort of
confrontation based on Shelly's mom pretty much denying that she even has a
daughter. I would think that would be a traumatic thing for someone. But
not our Shelly. She just "accepts" it. This is not a healthy girl.
"Ya know, it occurs to me," said in a drawl imitating Maurice's, that it
could well turn out that Cicely is filled with disturbed personalities. You
have:
Ed, prefering the comforting illusions of cinema to a reality he feels
unwelcome in;
the emotion-dead Shelly, escaping into television, mood swings, and sex to
mask her feelings of rejection from her mom;
Maurice, control freak and repressed homosexual, with his psycho-cop
girlfriend;
Maggie, man-hater and serial killer (Satellite or catapult? You decide.
Need another hint? "Potato Salad Accident");
Adam and Eve, garden variety lunatics, delusional and aggressive;
Chris, clearly alienated from his world (recall his awkward entrance,
seething with hidden resentment, into the polling booth--how long until
he, reading his books of poetry, finds his "Helter Skelter" muse and
joins Maggie in her crazed Deathlust?)
Or maybe he already has. Let's consider that "satellite" that struck our
local victim of satyriasis, Rick. What are the odds of a satellite really
striking someone anyway? Consider instead a well-aimed catapult-hurled heap
of artsy metal. Remember the delicate spokes that were still sticking up
from the body? And this after re-entry? And have we seen the "Aurora
Borealis" scupture recently? Hmmm . . .
You can call these pathologies "quirks", I suppose, but I'm scared!
Joel, get out while you can!
They said TWIN PEAKS was weird, but it's got nothing on this show.
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Louise Marks
>In article <1992Mar11....@ccu.umanitoba.ca> k...@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
>>
>> Actually as the camera panned over the photograph I was sure that the
>> GHOST would appear over someone's shoulder...
>You're not the only one....
Atually, I think the ghost was at the party, but didn't show up in the
photo. If you have a tape, look at the picture taking scene and then
the ending pan over the photo.
For those who don't have a tape to look at: if you'll remember, Joel
and Maggie are sitting together. Maurice is standing almost directly
behind Joel and Marilyn is standing to his right (our left). When the
picture was taken, there was a tall blond man in a red shirt (sorry,
no glasses and I couldn't see if he had a pipe, but he was holding
something in his hand) standing between/behind Marilyn and Maurice.
In the photo at the end of the show, he's not there. We also don't see
him in any of the previous party scenes. Even tho I might be wrong, I
prefer to believe that the ghost joined in for the group picture.
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Mark E. Mallett
>They said TWIN PEAKS was weird, but it's got nothing on this show.
I tuned in the other night just to give it another chance, since there's
so much talk about it here. And it impressed me the same way it did
when I tried it before: wierdness for wierdness sake, with very little
other redeeming qualities.
Now it does seem to be well-done wierdness, and at least it doesn't
have that raucous laugh-track that seems to be back in vogue (a la Home
Improvement). But I don't find it worth watching.
The other night some person on the show was ranting, and he bemoaned:
"They stuck a B-flat into my A-sharp minor concerto." As if b-flat
and a-sharp were somehow incompatible.
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won all sorts of awards on people's choice. makes me wonder where i've been
the last six months that i've missed such cleverly funny show.
hmmm.
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>In article <1992Mar19.1...@mv.mv.com> m...@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
>>
>>The other night some person on the show was ranting, and he bemoaned:
>>"They stuck a B-flat into my A-sharp minor concerto." As if b-flat
>>and a-sharp were somehow incompatible.
>are different to the ear. They will claim, especially, that the keys
>of B-b and A-# sound different.
I stand corrected and chagrined.
For some reason I related it to piano music (and to avoid further
flammage perhaps I should say pianos tuned with equal temperamant),
specifically, even though he may have even said "violin." There is
indeed a difference between A-# and b-flat, and even *I* know that!
(I still think it's a lousy show.)
U52...@uicvm.uic.edu
neighbor(sp?) was?I believe that it's Dick Van Dyke.
, Am I'm right?
John Switzer
>In article <1992Mar19.1...@mv.mv.com> m...@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
>>
>>"They stuck a B-flat into my A-sharp minor concerto." As if b-flat
>>and a-sharp were somehow incompatible.
>>
>are different to the ear. They will claim, especially, that the keys
>of B-b and A-# sound different.
Exactly right. This is most easily seen with string players like violinists
who will never play at exactly the same place for a B-flat and A-sharp.
However, as a trumpet player, I can guarantee you that although I use first
valve for both notes, they are not the same (except perhaps for some atonal
pieces).
a
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Dave Jones
>In article <1992Mar19.2...@ssd.kodak.com> d...@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>>In article <1992Mar19.1...@mv.mv.com> m...@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
>>>
>>>The other night some person on the show was ranting, and he bemoaned:
>>>"They stuck a B-flat into my A-sharp minor concerto." As if b-flat
>>>and a-sharp were somehow incompatible.
>>>
>>Believe it or not, many musicians will tell you that B-flat and A-sharp
>>are different to the ear. They will claim, especially, that the keys
>>of B-b and A-# sound different.
>
>Exactly right. This is most easily seen with string players like violinists
>who will never play at exactly the same place for a B-flat and A-sharp.
>However, as a trumpet player, I can guarantee you that although I use first
>valve for both notes, they are not the same (except perhaps for some atonal
>pieces).
This gets into the discussion of how music is more than just the stuff
written on the page. This is supposed to be the tv newsgroup but I can't
resist tossing out a few morsels for the curious:
A favorite guerrilla tactic of orchestral musicians with a conductor they
don't like is to play the music *exactly* as written on the page: not just
the notes, but all the marks for emphasis, bowing, legato etc. The result
is usually awful. Its also been known for an orchestra to put an extra beat
in every bar if they really want to screw someone up.
Singers are trained to sing slightly flat for part of a long note, only
coming up to the proper tone at the end. This adds color and interest to
the song.
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>
>>You're not the only one....
>
>Atually, I think the ghost was at the party, but didn't show up in the
>photo. If you have a tape, look at the picture taking scene and then
>the ending pan over the photo.
>
>For those who don't have a tape to look at: if you'll remember, Joel
>and Maggie are sitting together. Maurice is standing almost directly
>behind Joel and Marilyn is standing to his right (our left). When the
>picture was taken, there was a tall blond man in a red shirt (sorry,
>no glasses and I couldn't see if he had a pipe, but he was holding
>something in his hand) standing between/behind Marilyn and Maurice.
>
>In the photo at the end of the show, he's not there. We also don't see
>him in any of the previous party scenes. Even tho I might be wrong, I
>prefer to believe that the ghost joined in for the group picture.
>--
of the other people in the scene puts a hand on his shoulder.
Kind of spoils the ghost theory.
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Dave Jones
>"They stuck a B-flat into my A-sharp minor concerto." As if b-flat
>and a-sharp were somehow incompatible.
>
are different to the ear. They will claim, especially, that the keys
of B-b and A-# sound different.
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* I'm not sure if this has been discussed already, but I was wondering who the
* neighbor(sp?) was?I believe that it's Dick Van Dyke.
*
* Am I'm right?
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I believe the man's name is Earl Hindeman. He was a prominant stage actor
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I don't think so, I believe it is Tim Curry.
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Christopher Mark Conn
>>They said TWIN PEAKS was weird, but it's got nothing on this show.
>
>I tuned in the other night just to give it another chance, since there's
>so much talk about it here. And it impressed me the same way it did
>when I tried it before: wierdness for wierdness sake, with very little
>other redeeming qualities.
>
>Now it does seem to be well-done wierdness, and at least it doesn't
>have that raucous laugh-track that seems to be back in vogue (a la Home
>Improvement). But I don't find it worth watching.
>
The people on NX don't seem particularly weird to me, they just seem to
be really doing what they want to do (except for Joel, who is perhaps
being forced into doing what he probably *needs* to do).
I think they're not particularly conformist, which probably is a little
weird in our culture...
General comments: this is the best show I've seen on television in a long time.
I like the way they deal with philosophical issues in a subtle way, without
making them into a big deal... the writers assume that the audience
has a little sense and can figure things out, which is something that I rarely
see on tv these days. I like the way they allow the characters to show emotion
without getting all sentimental and winding up giving each other hugs (barf).
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Jeff Meyer
>Do any of you get the feeling that this show needs a newsgroup of its own?
No.
(Though a few more people could use the "NEXP" header.)
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Jann VanOver
>fer...@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (George Fergus) writes:
>
>>Do any of you get the feeling that this show needs a newsgroup of its own?
>
>No.
>
>(Though a few more people could use the "NEXP" header.)
>
Robert Perlberg
> In article <92080.101...@uicvm.uic.edu> U52...@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> >I'm not sure if this has been discussed already, but I was wondering who the
> > neighbor(sp?) was?I believe that it's Dick Van Dyke.
> >
> >, Am I'm right?
>
> I don't think so, I believe it is Tim Curry.
Gimme a break!
The actor's name is Earl Hindman. He is best known (to me at least)
for playing Bob Reid on the now defunct daytime soap opera "Ryan's
Hope".
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