January 2nd-8th premieres

[David]

Monday

Acorn TV - The Artful Detective
4:00 Cartoon Network - My Knight And Me (weekdays)
7:00 Nickelodeon - Paradise Run (Monday-Thursday)
8:00 ABC - The Bachelor
8:00 Disney XD - Gamer's Guide To Pretty Much Everything (2 hours)
8:00 Food Network - Kids Baking Championship
8:00 FOX - MasterChef Celebrity Showdown (2-hour special)
8:00 Freeform - Shadowhunters
8:00 PBS - Antiques Roadshow
8:00 TV One - Fatal Attraction (2 hours)
9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)
10:00 ABC - The Bachelor: Jimmy Kimmel Live (special)
10:00 NBC - The Wall (preview)
10:00 TV One - For My Man

Tuesday

7:00 Discovery Family - The Dengineers
7:30 Discovery Family - Post My Party
8:00 FOX - New Girl (new time)
8:00 NBC - The Wall (regular time)
8:30 FOX - The Mick (regular time)
9:00 FOX - Bones
9:00 NBC - Chicago Fire (special time)
9:00 OWN - The Haves and the Have Nots
10:00 Cooking Channel - Donut Showdown (special)
10:00 Discovery - Killing Fields
10:00 Food Network - Chopped
10:00 NBC - Chicago PD (special time)

Wednesday

8:00 Smithsonian - Crazy Monster
8:00 TV One - Unsung
9:00 Discovery - Alaskan Bush People
9:00 FOX - Star
9:00 PBS - Nova
9:00 Science - Outrageous Acts of Science
10:00 ABC - Match Game
10:00 CNBC - Blue Collar Millionaires
10:00 FXX - It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
10:00 Lifetime - Vivica's Black Magic
10:00 TLC - Too Close To Home
10:30 FXX - Man Seeking Woman

Thursday

Crackle - Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee
8:00 ABC - The Great American Baking Show (new time)
8:00 Bravo - Inside the Actors Studio: Viola Davis
8:00 FOX - Hell's Kitchen (new time, 2 hours)
8:00 NBC - Superstore
8:30 NBC - The Good Place
9:00 ABC - Truth and Lies: The Menendez Brothers (special)
9:00 Bravo - Top Chef (new time)
9:00 CMT - Nashville (2 hours)
9:00 NBC - Chicago Med
10:00 Food Network - Beat Bobby Flay
10:00 IFC - Portlandia
10:00 NBC - The Blacklist
10:00 Viceland - F*ck, That's Delicious
10:30 Viceland - The Pizza Show (regular time)

Friday

Netflix - Degrassi: New Class
Netflix - One Day at a Time
Netflix - Tarzan & Jane
6:00 Disney - Girl Meets World (1 hour behind-the-scenes special)
7:30 Food Network - Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives (special)
8:00 CW - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend (special time, 2 hours)
8:00 Food Network - Ginormous Food
8:00 FOX - Rosewood (new time)
8:00 NBC - Grimm
9:00 Food Network - Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives
9:00 FOX - Sleepy Hollow
9:00 NBC - Emerald City (2 hours)
10:00 Animal Planet - Treehouse Masters

Saturday

7:30 Disney XD - Ultimate Spider-Man (1-hour series finale)
8:00 A&E - Life, Animated (special)
8:00 Adult Swim - Dragon Ball Super
8:00 CBS - Ransom (regular time)
8:00 HBO - Bright Lights: Starring Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher
8:00 PBS - The Great British Baking Show (special)
8:30 Disney XD - Star Wars Rebels (1 hour)
8:30 Nickelodeon - Nicky, Ricky, Dicky & Dawn
9:00 Animal Planet - The Guardians
9:00 Science - Mythbusters: The Search

Sunday

8:00 Cooking Channel - Dinner at Tiffani's
8:00 NBC - The Golden Globe Awards
8:30 Cooking Channel - Tia Mowry at Home
9:00 Discovery - Everest Rescue
9:00 Smithsonian - The Real Mad Men of Advertising
9:30 FOX - Bob's Burgers (special time)
10:00 Travel Channel - Top Secret Swimming Holes (special)

[anim8rfsk]

In article <ejkd6c5jbec1d94mk...@4ax.com>,

David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Monday
>
> Acorn TV - The Artful Detective

Someday somebody needs to explain to us what the title change
accomplishes besides reducing viewership.

> 4:00 Cartoon Network - My Knight And Me (weekdays)
> 7:00 Nickelodeon - Paradise Run (Monday-Thursday)
> 8:00 ABC - The Bachelor
> 8:00 Disney XD - Gamer's Guide To Pretty Much Everything (2 hours)
> 8:00 Food Network - Kids Baking Championship
> 8:00 FOX - MasterChef Celebrity Showdown (2-hour special)
> 8:00 Freeform - Shadowhunters

SQUIGGLE!

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[Obveeus]

On 12/30/2016 4:59 PM, David wrote:

> Monday

> 9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)

I might sample this. Did it get dumped to binge watching because it
sucks or because Squiggle is trying to rebuild an audience for its network?

> Tuesday

> 8:30 FOX - The Mick (regular time)

I might sample this.

> Wednesday
> Thursday

> 8:30 NBC - The Good Place

It's back...at least for a little bit.

> Friday

>
> Netflix - One Day at a Time

Will sample.

> 8:00 NBC - Grimm

Yeah!

> 9:00 NBC - Emerald City (2 hours)

Will sample.

> Sunday

>
> 8:00 NBC - The Golden Globe Awards

I hope they keep the mourning to a minimum.

[Obveeus]

On 12/30/2016 5:21 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <ejkd6c5jbec1d94mk...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Monday
>>
>> Acorn TV - The Artful Detective
>
> Someday somebody needs to explain to us what the title change
> accomplishes besides reducing viewership.

According to this:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/john-doyle-murdoch-mysteries-puzzles-american-critics/article28078232/

Ovation is an art channel so they wanted 'art' in the title.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <o46oko$qee$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Good grief. Why not rename the character and call it "The Art Murdoch
Mysteries"?

At least this explains why they run

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries
The Tudors
Celebrity Conversations
The Method
Millennials
On The Record
A Day In the Life
Rough Draft
The Envelope

and many more.

Hell, Murdoch is a full third of the shows with 'art' in the title.

[RichA]

On Friday, 30 December 2016 16:59:52 UTC-5, David wrote:
> Monday
>
Where is "Training Day?"
>

>
> Thursday
>
>
Where is "Chicago Justice?"
>
> Friday
>

Where is "APB?"
Where is "Emerald City?"

[Ian J. Ball]

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-8, David wrote:

> Monday

>
> 8:00 Freeform - Shadowhunters

It *pains* me to have to continue watching this, but the "eye candy" factor is just too damn high... :\

> 9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)

Huh - so this is effectively "precancelled"?!

> Saturday

>
> 8:00 CBS - Ransom (regular time)

Wow, I had no idea that CBS planned this as "burnoff" right from the start.

I guess this is this season's broadcast network entry in the "precancelled!!" Sweepstakes...

[anim8rfsk]

In article <96f91708-dd23-43c8...@googlegroups.com>,

"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:

> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>
> > Monday
> >
> > 8:00 Freeform - Shadowhunters
>
> It *pains* me to have to continue watching this, but the "eye candy" factor
> is just too damn high... :\

You didn't say it

> > 9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)
>
> Huh - so this is effectively "precancelled"?!

You didn't say it *again*!

[Robin Miller]

Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>

>
>> 9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)
>
> Huh - so this is effectively "precancelled"?!

Reviews are pretty mediocre.

>> Saturday
>>
>> 8:00 CBS - Ransom (regular time)
>
> Wow, I had no idea that CBS planned this as "burnoff" right from the start.
>

Ditto ...

--Robin

[Dimensional Traveler]

But its on Acorn.

--
Running the rec.arts.TV Channels Watched Survey.
Winter 2016 survey began Dec 01 and will end Feb 28

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 12/30/2016 6:50 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <96f91708-dd23-43c8...@googlegroups.com>,
> "Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>>
>>> Monday
>>>
>>> 8:00 Freeform - Shadowhunters
>>
>> It *pains* me to have to continue watching this, but the "eye candy" factor
>> is just too damn high... :\
>
> You didn't say it
>
>>> 9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)
>>
>> Huh - so this is effectively "precancelled"?!
>
> You didn't say it *again*!
>

He just doesn't know how to Squiggle in the shadows.

[Obveeus]

On 12/30/2016 8:31 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>

>> Saturday
>>
>> 8:00 CBS - Ransom (regular time)
>
> Wow, I had no idea that CBS planned this as "burnoff" right from the start.

From awhile back when it was originally put on the schedule, there was
this article:
http://deadline.com/2016/11/cbs-midseason-schedule-ransom-saturday-training-day-doubt-premiere-dates-1201862064/

QUOTE:
Ransom — a Canada-France treaty co-production — is a lower-cost
acquisition, allowing CBS to use it on a night with little ratings
upside like Saturday
:UNQUOTE

[Obveeus]

On 12/30/2016 11:00 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 12/30/2016 2:57 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2016 5:21 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>>> In article <ejkd6c5jbec1d94mk...@4ax.com>,
>>> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Monday
>>>>
>>>> Acorn TV - The Artful Detective
>>>
>>> Someday somebody needs to explain to us what the title change
>>> accomplishes besides reducing viewership.
>>
>> According to this:
>> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/john-doyle-murdoch-mysteries-puzzles-american-critics/article28078232/
>>
>>
>>
>> Ovation is an art channel so they wanted 'art' in the title.
>>
> But its on Acorn.

You want them to change the name back again? Murdoch Mysteries formerly
known as The Artful Detective formerly known as Murdoch Mysteries is a
lot to say in one breath.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <o47aee$ifb$2...@dont-email.me>,

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

> On 12/30/2016 2:57 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 12/30/2016 5:21 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >> In article <ejkd6c5jbec1d94mk...@4ax.com>,
> >> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Monday
> >>>
> >>> Acorn TV - The Artful Detective
> >>
> >> Someday somebody needs to explain to us what the title change
> >> accomplishes besides reducing viewership.
> >
> > According to this:
> > http://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/television/john-doyle-murdoch-mysteries-
> > puzzles-american-critics/article28078232/
> >
> >
> > Ovation is an art channel so they wanted 'art' in the title.
> >
> But its on Acorn.

Yeah, but Acorn's not a channel is it, but a provider of multiple
channels?

If Acorn's one channel this is galactically stupid.

[shawn]

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:31:30 -0800 (PST), "Ian J. Ball"
<ijb...@mac.com> wrote:

>On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:59:52 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>
>> Monday
>>
>> 8:00 Freeform - Shadowhunters
>
>It *pains* me to have to continue watching this, but the "eye candy" factor is just too damn high... :\

Why oh why... There are other shows with great "eye candy". How do you
get past the writing and horrible acting. I tried... I really tried,
but past episode 3 or 4 was just way too much for me to deal with.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <o47bou$pp1$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

That article made the point that just about nobody knows the title
"Artful Detective" which doesn't even make sense anyway.

[Dimensional Traveler]

I don't think TV execs care what I want.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Quote: Acorn TV is an American subscription streaming service offering
television programming from the United Kingdom, as well as Canada,
Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. It is available on a variety of
devices including Amazon Fire TV, Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, and Roku.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_TV

Since apparently Acorn started out as a VHS vendor, then a DVD/BR
vendor, I don't think it even qualifies as a "TV Channel". That would
be like claiming Netflix is a "TV Channel".

[Dimensional Traveler]

I think you lasted longer than I did.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <o47lje$mqt$1...@dont-email.me>,

Huh. I thought maybe Acorn was streaming Ovation, hence the stupid
changed Murdoch name.

[Obveeus]

...but if Ovation is now holding some US distribution right and they
renamed the show for their network (and the US DVD release even has that
'ARTFUL DETECTIVE' mention on the box), then Acorn probably has to
comply with it.

[suzeeq]

The Murdoch DVDs I got from the library were from Acorn and labeled
Murdoch Mysteries though.

[Obveeus]

The later seasons (7 and on) include 'Broadcast on Ovation as THE ARTFUL
DETECTIVE' on the box art:
https://www.amazon.com/Murdoch-Mysteries-Season-Yannick-Bisson/dp/B01EIS46CM/ref=sr_1_5?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1483200605

[Barry Margolin]

In article <o47lje$mqt$1...@dont-email.me>,

Everyone considers the streaming services to be analogous to premium TV
channels, because you have to subscribe to the channel to get its
content.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

[suzeeq]

OK, I maybe remember seeing that...

[Robin Miller]

What's odd about the Acorn distribution deal is that Ovation starts
showing season 10 on January 9:

http://www.ovationtv.com/series/artful-detective

So the two will be overlapping in the US, although I suppose there are a
lot of people who don't have access to Ovation.

--Robin

[Dimensional Traveler]

I get the feeling that Ovation is airing an "Americanized" edited
version while Acorn is airing the "straight from the UK" version.

And apparently Acorn has less than 400,000 subscribers.

[suzeeq]

Only it's Canadian...

[David]

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 4:59:52 PM UTC-5, David wrote:
> Monday

> 9:00 Freeform - Beyond (2 hours, full season on-demand, online)

Time Warner on-demand has the full season already.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <041e4593-ae76-449d...@googlegroups.com>,

WHY WON'T YOU SAY IT!?!?!?

[anim8rfsk]

In article <o48g6p$gju$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Could be. They're still idiots.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <ecqb00...@mid.individual.net>,

Me, and glad of it.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Close enough. :)

[suzeeq]

I meant that in reference to your 'straight from the UK' version comment.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Like I said....