What the hell is going on?
Baseball. FOX has the World Series. If you saw the last episodes
coming attractions they said Fringe will return in
November.
Baseball.
They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
--
JWH
Oh, you again. <sigh>
Fringe is a FOX show. Turn to the FOX channel and you'll get your answer.
Baseball playoffs are on. <d'uh>
Go buy a friggin tv guide.
<back into the killfile>
..
New to our planet are you?
AW, CHRIST!!!!!!!!!! Somebody talk Marc Berman down off a ledge. He'll
have to wait another week or two to precum "...and the underrated
'Bones'..." for Thursday's next-morning ratings on Friday. Actually,
if he's up there, I'll get a megaphone out and tell him to jump.
He'll probably say tomorrow: "Blah, blah, blah, I'm Marc Berman and my
op-ed opinions matter. Blah, blah, blah 'Survivor' still gives me a
shiver up my leg. Blah, blah, blah the underrated Bones did better
than boring baseball a year ago with X number in October of 2008..."
Yep. And in case anyone has any doubts:
% whois 76.64.159.192
Bell Canada BELLCANADA-16 (NET-76-64-0-0-1)
76.64.0.0 - 76.71.255.255
Sympatico HSE HSE20070209111-CA (NET-76-64-156-0-1)
76.64.156.0 - 76.64.159.255
><back into the killfile>
Ditto.
Patty
Illogical. They replaced it with Law and Order, not baseball.
> If you saw the last episodes coming attractions they said Fringe will return in
> November.
I saw the last episodes and they didn't say anything. As my original
post says, there was no mention of this scheduling change in advance
that I saw. If the station ever mentioned it it was not during Fringe
or any other show I actually watch on that station.
Illogical. They replaced it with Law and Order, not baseball.
> They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
They did not, or if they did, it was not during Fringe or any other
show I watch on the same channel.
No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
> Turn to the FOX channel and you'll get your answer.
I don't get a "FOX channel". I watch on A-BAR, one of my local TV
stations and the only one that carries Fringe.
> Baseball playoffs are on.
So? What does that have to do with Fringe, the price of tea in China,
or much of anything else?
> [insults deleted]
No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
Cute.
Also uninformative.
No. None of the nasty things that either of you have said or implied
>>>Why was Fringe replaced by a Law and Order rerun? And why was there no
>>>announcement in advance of this scheduling change? There has also been
>>>no announcement of whether Fringe returns to its usual time next week,
>>>has moved permanently (and if so, to what day and time), or was
>>>canceled.
>>>What the hell is going on?
>>[implied insult deleted]
>No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
>are at all true.
Oh dear. Our favorite troll is off his meds again.
>On Oct 22, 8:58�pm, "elze...@aol.com" <elze...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 22, 8:53�pm, Little Green Man <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Why was Fringe replaced by a Law and Order rerun? And why was there no
>> > announcement in advance of this scheduling change? There has also been
>> > no announcement of whether Fringe returns to its usual time next week,
>> > has moved permanently (and if so, to what day and time), or was
>> > canceled.
>>
>> > What the hell is going on?
>>
>> � Baseball.
>
>Illogical. They replaced it with Law and Order, not baseball.
This routine was old the last three times you did it. It isn't
getting any funnier.
>Cute.
>Also uninformative.
Very informative! For the first time in your entire miserable morphing
trolling existence on Usenet, you failed to deny an insult!
Mr. Hole has outed you! You ARE an alien. So what planet are you from?
And how soon are you returning?
Not TV related.
You were not paying close enough attention.
That's so funny. They figure it's you, and you do the definitive
identification with the "none of the nasty things" line. Nobody else
says that around here.
Michael
That's an interesting line.
Maybe TV is his opiate. And he goes off it when something isn't on when
it's scheduled.
Michael
Since when does Fox show Law and Order? Didn't think they'd paid NBC
for the syndication rights for that. Wonder who'd like to write and
let 'em know?
> > They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
I remember that, not on Fringe because I don't watch it, but on House
and Bones. A friend who downloaded Fringe, said the "until November"
snippet was on her copy. She wrote and asked me why (she lives in
Wales, so didn't know about the playoffs and World Series).
> They did not, or if they did, it was not during Fringe or any other
> show I watch on the same channel.
Do you watch teasers for upcoming shows? It's generally in there
(just before they start).
I think he's in Canada and it's shown on a different channel there.
>>> They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
>
> I remember that, not on Fringe because I don't watch it, but on House
> and Bones. A friend who downloaded Fringe, said the "until November"
> snippet was on her copy. She wrote and asked me why (she lives in
> Wales, so didn't know about the playoffs and World Series).
>
>> They did not, or if they did, it was not during Fringe or any other
>> show I watch on the same channel.
>
> Do you watch teasers for upcoming shows? It's generally in there
> (just before they start).
Maybe they didn't show that in his version, or he missed it.
Could be. Hadn't read further down the thread, or I would have just
ignored the OP. You know, since pretty much everyone else had already
said the same thing I did <grin>.
>>>>>Why was Fringe replaced by a Law and Order rerun? And why was there no
>>>>>announcement in advance of this scheduling change? There has also been
>>>>>no announcement of whether Fringe returns to its usual time next week,
>>>>>has moved permanently (and if so, to what day and time), or was
>>>>>canceled.
>>>>>What the hell is going on?
>>>>[implied insult deleted]
>>>No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
>>>are at all true.
>>Oh dear. Our favorite troll is off his meds again.
>That's an interesting line.
I only steal the best ones!
>Maybe TV is his opiate. And he goes off it when something isn't on when
>it's scheduled.
Heh.
No, you're the crazy one.
It isn't intended to be funny.
No, you're the liar.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> For the first time in your entire [insult deleted] on Usenet, you
> [insult deleted]!
No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
> [silliness deleted]
Off-topic.
None of the nasty things that clouddreamer or Patty have said or
implied about me are at all true.
> Not TV related.
Believe me, I noticed.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
You're presuming that I want to hide my identity for some reason. But
I'm not the dishonest one here.
No, Adam's the crazy one.
None of the nasty things that Adam has said or implied about me are at
all true.
> That's an interesting line.
No, it was a stupid and childish insult.
> Maybe [insult deleted]
Definitely not. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied
Well it certainly isn't productive.
I don't watch Fox. I watch A-Bar.
> > > They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
>
> I remember that, not on Fringe because I don't watch it, but on House
> and Bones.
I watch House and I didn't see anything during that, either.
> > They did not, or if they did, it was not during Fringe or any other
> > show I watch on the same channel.
>
> Do you watch teasers for upcoming shows? It's generally in there
> (just before they start).
I do, and I saw nothing of the sort.
So first of all we have a bogus claim that it was pre-empted for a
baseball game, even though that's not what replaced it, Law and Order
was. No doubt someone will say the American station pre-empted it for
the game and claim that it's somehow impossible for the Canadian
station to still air it on schedule in that case.
At which point I point out that:
1. We are now getting L&O:SVU one day before you Yanks, contrary to
that claim;
2. We got last week's Cold Case a whole week before you Yanks, who
had it pre-empted by a football game, exactly the same situation
you now claim happened with Fringe -- so why would Cold Case be
treated differently from Fringe? Nevermind that it also disproves
your universal statement that nothing can EVER air earlier in
Canada than in the US; and
3. Even if you were somehow right anyway and it was truly impossible
for them to air a new Fringe episode, there's still the little
matter that the correct thing for them to do was to AIR A FRINGE
RERUN, not some other random thing. They DID behave correctly
with the night's CSI, assuming that your precious baseball game
is what affected that too.
Oh, and
4. Why SHOULD your silly sports events interfere with regular TV
programming? There are gobs of dedicated sports channels on cable,
gobs of dedicated sports channels on satellite, and gobs of new
DTV "subchannels" down south, so whether you get your TV OTA, via
cable, or via satellite, there's easily enough bandwidth and
channels for every major network to dedicate a channel to
scheduled scripted shows and stick to the schedule on that channel
like glue while having a SECOND channel for sports, special news
events, and whatever other malarkey they feel the need to air that
won't fit into a neat and predictable box on a day-planner sheet.
Last year they might have gotten away with an excuse based on having
to choose between one or the other for the 0.1% of their customers
that get their network OTA instead of on cable or satellite. Since
this summer's DTV transition, that excuse has completely gone away.
Bingo! Apparently at least *some* other people in this newsgroup are
of decent IQs.
> >>> They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
>
> > I remember that, not on Fringe because I don't watch it, but on House
> > and Bones.
No, it wasn't on House either. (Bones I can't vouch for.)
> >> They did not, or if they did, it was not during Fringe or any other
> >> show I watch on the same channel.
>
> > Do you watch teasers for upcoming shows? It's generally in there
> > (just before they start).
>
> Maybe they didn't show that in his version
Bingo! Apparently at least *some* other people in this newsgroup are
of decent IQs.
Bingo! Apparently at least *some* other people in this newsgroup are
of decent IQs.
> > >>> They announced last week that no new eps would air "until November".
>
> > > I remember that, not on Fringe because I don't watch it, but on House
> > > and Bones.
Nope, they didn't mention anything during House, either.
> > >> They did not, or if they did, it was not during Fringe or any other
> > >> show I watch on the same channel.
>
> > > Do you watch teasers for upcoming shows? It's generally in there
> > > (just before they start).
>
> > Maybe they didn't show that in his version, or he missed it.
Bingo! Apparently at least *some* other people in this newsgroup are
of decent IQs.
> Could be. Hadn't read further down the thread, or I would have just
> ignored the OP. You know, since pretty much everyone else had already
> said the same thing I did <grin>.
Nah, most of them were much flamier and nastier, as usual. For some
reason the most asinine and vocal assholes seem to be the quickest to
the "reply" button and the marginally sane to actually normal people
show up only some hours later, if at all (since the assholes' posts
may put them off). My guess is that the same mindset that makes
someone feel the need to treat usenet like a battlefield and *pounce*
on anything they find remotely disagreeable also provokes such people
to obsessively click refresh every five minutes all day long or
something.
No, you're the crazy one.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> >That's an interesting line.
No, it's a particularly boring (since SOOOOOO unoriginal) insult.
> I only steal the best ones!
The only things you ever steal are the sorts of things you can go to
jail for stealing, Adam.
> >Maybe [insult deleted]
>
> Heh.
Definitely not. None of the nasty things that Michael has said or
> 4. Why SHOULD your silly sports events interfere with regular TV
> programming? There are gobs of dedicated sports channels on cable,
> gobs of dedicated sports channels on satellite, and gobs of new
> DTV "subchannels" down south, so whether you get your TV OTA, via
> cable, or via satellite, there's easily enough bandwidth and
> channels for every major network to dedicate a channel to
> scheduled scripted shows and stick to the schedule on that channel
> like glue while having a SECOND channel for sports, special news
> events, and whatever other malarkey they feel the need to air that
> won't fit into a neat and predictable box on a day-planner sheet.
Because not everyone has a dish or cable TV. I don't and haven't most of
my life.
>On Oct 23, 11:46�pm, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Little Green Man
>> <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 23, 2:42�am, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> >> This routine was old the last three times you did it. �It isn't
>> >> getting any funnier.
>>
>> >It isn't intended to be funny.
>>
>>Well it certainly isn't productive
>
>
[Tedious nonsense deleted]
Sure they did. Better luck next time, liar :)
>Smokie Darling (Annie) wrote:
>> On Oct 23, 12:38 am, Little Green Man <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 22, 8:58 pm, jewahe <rega...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Little Green Man wrote:
>>>>> Why was Fringe replaced by a Law and Order rerun? And why was there no
>>>>> announcement in advance of this scheduling change? There has also been
>>>>> no announcement of whether Fringe returns to its usual time next week,
>>>>> has moved permanently (and if so, to what day and time), or was
>>>>> canceled.
>>>>> What the hell is going on?
>>>> Baseball.
>>> Illogical. They replaced it with Law and Order, not baseball.
>>
>> Since when does Fox show Law and Order? Didn't think they'd paid NBC
>> for the syndication rights for that. Wonder who'd like to write and
>> let 'em know?
>
>I think he's in Canada and it's shown on a different channel there.
>
Of course he's in Canada. It's That Guy. The one who is constantly
whining about how American shows get pre-empted when they aren't run
in the United States and switches names every time to do it.
>>>>>Why was Fringe replaced by a Law and Order rerun? And why was there no
>>>>>announcement in advance of this scheduling change? There has also been
>>>>>no announcement of whether Fringe returns to its usual time next week,
>>>>>has moved permanently (and if so, to what day and time), or was
>>>>>canceled.
>>>>>What the hell is going on?
>>>>New to our planet are you?
>>>Cute.
>>>Also uninformative.
>>[calls me a liar]
>No, you're the liar.
No, I called you a space alien. Get it right.
But it is also shown on FOX up here, so unless you have a tv with an
over the air antenna, you're getting FOX and it's only a matter of
turning the channel to find out that baseball is pre-empting it.
And don't go into your shit about Canadian Channels broadcasting the
episode since it's already been made. We've explained that a million
times and you WON'T LISTEN. Is it no wonder people call you stupid???
<plonk once again>
Stop changing your nick.
..
--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.
Oh what an excellent idea. Best way to reply to this irritant from here on.
Of course, it depends on your viewpoint. I have no interest in sports at
all, so not having them on real tv channels wouldn't upset me one bit, it
would leave so much more room for "good" programming.
But yes, for those who want sports, it is an issue.
Michael
Your completely ignoring the DTV subchannels has been noted.
No, you're the liar.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> [unused quoted material deleted]
Learn to trim!
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
(Implied bigotry noted.)
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
By the way, it's rather inefficient when three or four of you reply to
the same post with essentially the same useless insult. Do at least
try to read the other replies to a post before posting your own to
make sure you aren't just going to be repeating something that's
already been said. That's standard Usenet etiquette.
No, you're the liar.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
Even assuming I did get FOX, why on earth would I want to tune it in?
I'm not a Republican, FOX doesn't carry any shows I like to watch that
I can't get from local stations, and Leeann Tweeden left them two
years ago.
> And don't go into your shit about Canadian Channels broadcasting the
> episode since it's already been made. We've explained that a million
> times and you WON'T LISTEN.
I WON'T LISTEN because YOU'RE WRONG, as proven by
1. our seeing this week's Cold Case when you had it pre-empted,
2. our getting L&O:SVU a day earlier than you, and
3. after some random browsing of the group, I found another
example: we continue to get a show called Defying Gravity
that got postponed until midseason for you folks.
Item number 1 in particular is an identical situation to this one. If
we can see Cold Case right away even when your football pre-empts it
down south, then logically we can also see Fringe right away even when
your baseball pre-empts it down south, moron.
> [insult deleted]
>
> [insult deleted]
>
> [rude demand deleted]
No. And none of the nasty things that you have said or implied about
No, you're the irritant.
None of the nasty things that either of you have said or implied about
Not since the DTV transition. Or at least it doesn't NEED to be,
depending on how the network affiliates allocate programming among
their shiny new subchannels.
No one believes you plonked him the first time, dipshit. Try for
consistency next time.
> On Oct 23, 11:17�am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> On Oct 23, 12:38�am, Little Green Man <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Oct 22, 8:58�pm, jewahe <rega...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > > Little Green Man wrote:
>> > > > What the hell is going on?
>>
>> > > Baseball.
>>
>> > Illogical. They replaced it with Law and Order, not baseball.
>>
>> Since when does Fox show Law and Order?
>
> I don't watch Fox. I watch A-Bar.
That channel's website says that Fringe is preempted and will return on
Nov. 7.
http://www.atv.ca/windsor/tvshows_fringe.aspx
[snipped discussion]
> So first of all we have a bogus claim that it was pre-empted for a
> baseball game, even though that's not what replaced it, Law and Order
> was. No doubt someone will say the American station pre-empted it for
> the game and claim that it's somehow impossible for the Canadian
> station to still air it on schedule in that case.
The U.S. network pre-empted it for the game. This is true. This made
it unavailable for the Canadian station to air the show on schedule.
This is true.
> At which point I point out that:
> 1. We are now getting L&O:SVU one day before you Yanks, contrary to
> that claim;
But if L&O:SVU were to be pre-empted, it would not be available for the
Canadian network to air the day before.
> 2. We got last week's Cold Case a whole week before you Yanks, who
> had it pre-empted by a football game, exactly the same situation
> you now claim happened with Fringe -- so why would Cold Case be
> treated differently from Fringe? Nevermind that it also disproves
> your universal statement that nothing can EVER air earlier in
> Canada than in the US; and
That was an unplanned pre-emption. The football game went into
overtime, and as such Cold Case was replaced with a re-run so that the
network could show the pre-empted episode on all CBS channels on the
same night. The Cold Case episode had already been distributed to the
Canadian Channel. This would not be the case for Fringe, where the pre-
emption was planned well in advance.
> 3. Even if you were somehow right anyway and it was truly impossible
> for them to air a new Fringe episode, there's still the little
> matter that the correct thing for them to do was to AIR A FRINGE
> RERUN, not some other random thing. They DID behave correctly
> with the night's CSI, assuming that your precious baseball game
> is what affected that too.
They may not have had a Fringe re-run to air. It depends on the
agreement between Fox and the Canadian channel.
> Oh, and
>
> 4. Why SHOULD your silly sports events interfere with regular TV
> programming? There are gobs of dedicated sports channels on cable,
> gobs of dedicated sports channels on satellite, and gobs of new
> DTV "subchannels" down south, so whether you get your TV OTA, via
> cable, or via satellite, there's easily enough bandwidth and
> channels for every major network to dedicate a channel to
> scheduled scripted shows and stick to the schedule on that channel
> like glue while having a SECOND channel for sports, special news
> events, and whatever other malarkey they feel the need to air that
> won't fit into a neat and predictable box on a day-planner sheet.
Because the U.S. networks show the programs which will maximize the
number of viewers. That's their business model. More people watch
these baseball games than watch their regular programming.
> Last year they might have gotten away with an excuse based on having
> to choose between one or the other for the 0.1% of their customers
> that get their network OTA instead of on cable or satellite. Since
> this summer's DTV transition, that excuse has completely gone away.
Note that Fox does not have subchannels, at least not on any of the
channels owned by the network. Neither does CBS. ABC, NBC, and CW do,
but they do not show the primary network shows - these subchannels have
their own programming schedules, and are not required to be included in
Cable systems since they are not the primary channel.
In addition, having two high-definition streams in a single channel can
seriously impact the quality of the video, especially when one of them
is a sports program. Fox is not going to put their regular programs in
standard def, and they are definitely not putting a baseball game in
standard def.
I would recommend a website such as http://tvcountdown.com to track
shows. There is no registration necessary - just select the shows
you're interested in, click 'Go', and set a bookmark. It's intended for
the U.S. audience, but it will tell you which weeks a new episode will
be available.
Except that where I live there are only 4 "local" (ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC)
channels then a few non-local (MSNBC, C-SPAN, PBS, TBS, CW, Discovery
and Lifetime), and the "sports tier" (beginning with ESPN) is an
additional fee ($24 a month for "basic" cable, then $59 for extended,
for alot of people that $35 is undoable). There would be nowhere else
to place sports coverage for local viewers who do not have extended
basic.
Oh and public access channel that shows "infomercials" from the local
Social Services office on benefits available. So, it isn't feasible
to put sport on another channel, there isn't one available to OTA
receivers.
>>>>>>>Why was Fringe replaced by a Law and Order rerun? And why was there no
>>>>>>>announcement in advance of this scheduling change? There has also been
>>>>>>>no announcement of whether Fringe returns to its usual time next week,
>>>>>>>has moved permanently (and if so, to what day and time), or was
>>>>>>>canceled.
>>>>>>>What the hell is going on?
>>>>>>Baseball.
>>>>>Illogical. They replaced it with Law and Order, not baseball.
>>>>This routine was old the last three times you did it. It isn't
>>>>getting any funnier.
>>>It isn't intended to be funny.
>>[implied insult deleted]
It wasn't an implied insult. It was direct sarcasm. Get it right.
>By the way, it's rather inefficient when three or four of you reply to
>the same post with essentially the same useless insult. Do at least
>try to read the other replies to a post before posting your own to
>make sure you aren't just going to be repeating something that's
>already been said. That's standard Usenet etiquette.
Ooh, the topic censor has spoken. Dude, if you don't wish to be the topic
of discussion, don't make such an ass of yourself.
No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
(Why did you post the same stupid message twice?)
But why on earth would I want to tune in FOX when all the shows I want
to watch are carried by local stations?
> > We've explained that a million times and you WON'T LISTEN.
That's because YOU'RE WRONG, as proven by Cold Case being pre-empted
in the States last week but not on Canadian TV.
> > [insults deleted]
No, clouddreamer is the idiot.
None of the nasty things that clounddreamer has said or implied about
me are at all true.
> > [rude demand deleted]
No.
Except nothing. Since the DTV transition, the network affiliates have
had these handy things called "subchannels" that can be used to
broadcast more than one thing at once. So it is now possible for one
of your FOX affiliates, say, to air, say, baseball and Fringe at the
same time, using two different subchannels.
No, you're the idiot.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> >By the way, it's rather inefficient when three or four of you reply to
> >the same post with essentially the same useless insult. Do at least
> >try to read the other replies to a post before posting your own to
> >make sure you aren't just going to be repeating something that's
> >already been said. That's standard Usenet etiquette.
>
> [insult deleted]
No, you're the ass.
Christ. You are stupid. And that's not implied. That's fact.
Cold case was BROADCAST IN CANADA BEFORE THE GAME PRE-EMPTED Cold Case.
I saw Cold Case at 7 EDT on the Nova Scotia channel. The decision to
pre-empt Cold Case didn't occur until 8:40 pm.
D'uh.
It's an exception. Not a rule.
>
>>> [insults deleted]
>
> No, clouddreamer is the idiot.
Oh look. You can give it but you can't take it. Grow up.
>
> None of the nasty things that clounddreamer has said or implied about
> me are at all true.
They are. I've proven it over and over and over and over. No one agrees
with you. No one ever has. Just because YOU don't want to believe the
truth doesn't make it false.
Stop changing your nick. <plonk>
..
is irrelevant. I don't watch the channel's website. I watch the
channel's TV broadcasts.
> This made it unavailable for the Canadian station to air the show on schedule.
If your theory were correct, then last week's Cold Case pre-emption
would have made that unavailable for the Canadian station to air on
schedule. Yet the Canadian station aired Cold Case on schedule.
Looks like you're wrong again!
> > At which point I point out that:
> > 1. We are now getting L&O:SVU one day before you Yanks, contrary to
> > that claim;
>
> But
But nothing. We are now getting L&O:SVU one day before you, contrary
to your fervently-held belief that it is somehow *impossible* for a
Canadian channel to ever air a show episode at an earlier date than
its first US air date.
> > 2. We got last week's Cold Case a whole week before you Yanks, who
> > had it pre-empted by a football game, exactly the same situation
> > you now claim happened with Fringe -- so why would Cold Case be
> > treated differently from Fringe? Nevermind that it also disproves
> > your universal statement that nothing can EVER air earlier in
> > Canada than in the US; and
>
> [irrelevancy deleted]
We got that Cold Case episode one week before you, contrary to your
fervently-held belief that it is somehow *impossible* for a Canadian
channel to ever air a show episode at an earlier date than its first
US air date.
> > 3. Even if you were somehow right anyway and it was truly impossible
> > for them to air a new Fringe episode, there's still the little
> > matter that the correct thing for them to do was to AIR A FRINGE
> > RERUN, not some other random thing. They DID behave correctly
> > with the night's CSI, assuming that your precious baseball game
> > is what affected that too.
>
> They may not have had a Fringe re-run to air.
Of course they have a Fringe re-run to air. They aired a Fringe ep a
week prior, so they had that ep lying around someplace, in particular.
> > Oh, and
>
> > 4. Why SHOULD your silly sports events interfere with regular TV
> > programming? There are gobs of dedicated sports channels on cable,
> > gobs of dedicated sports channels on satellite, and gobs of new
> > DTV "subchannels" down south, so whether you get your TV OTA, via
> > cable, or via satellite, there's easily enough bandwidth and
> > channels for every major network to dedicate a channel to
> > scheduled scripted shows and stick to the schedule on that channel
> > like glue while having a SECOND channel for sports, special news
> > events, and whatever other malarkey they feel the need to air that
> > won't fit into a neat and predictable box on a day-planner sheet.
>
> Because the U.S. networks show the programs which will maximize the
> number of viewers.
That explains why they want to make the ball game available. It fails
to explain why, now that they have the capacity, they do not make BOTH
the ball game AND Fringe available. Wouldn't that maximize the number
of viewers? They'll get all the people who wanted to watch either
baseball OR Fringe, including the ones that were only interested in
Fringe, that way. That's going to be no fewer, and probably many more,
people than if they air only one or the other.
> > Last year they might have gotten away with an excuse based on having
> > to choose between one or the other for the 0.1% of their customers
> > that get their network OTA instead of on cable or satellite. Since
> > this summer's DTV transition, that excuse has completely gone away.
>
> Note that Fox does not have subchannels, at least not on any of the
> channels owned by the network.
That's their own stupidity then. There's no reason why a FOX affiliate
couldn't use subchannels to air regular programming on one and sports
etc. on a second. That none of them apparently have CHOSEN to do so is
certainly no skin off my nose.
A solution to all of this scheduling stupidity has been offered. Until
you accept that solution, the stupidity will continue and I will
continue to complain about it.
> I would recommend a website such ashttp://tvcountdown.comto track
> shows. There is no registration necessary - just select the shows
> you're interested in, click 'Go', and set a bookmark. It's intended for
> the U.S. audience, but it will tell you which weeks a new episode will
> be available.
Apparently not; it would have said last week had no new episode of
Cold Case, but for us Canucks that would have been wrong.
If you know of a CANADIAN such site, do be sure to let me know.
Otherwise, well, pffft.
No, you're the idiot.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> >>> [insults deleted]
>
> > No, clouddreamer is the idiot.
>
> [insult deleted]
No, you're the juvenile.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> > None of the nasty things that clounddreamer has said or implied about
> > me are at all true.
>
> [calls me a liar]
No, you're the liar.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> [rude demand deleted]
No.
> [implied insult deleted]
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
>On Oct 24, 12:38�pm, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:37:16 -0700 (PDT), Little Green Man
>> <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Oct 23, 11:46�pm, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Little Green Man
>> >> <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 23, 2:42�am, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
>> >> >> This routine was old the last three times you did it. �It isn't
>> >> >> getting any funnier.
>>
>> >> >It isn't intended to be funny.
>>
>> >> [insult deleted]
>>
>> [insult deleted]
>
[inanity deleted]
>
>If your theory were correct, then last week's Cold Case pre-emption
>would have made that unavailable for the Canadian station to air on
>schedule. Yet the Canadian station aired Cold Case on schedule.
Last week I tried to watch Cold Case on a Canadian channel and got CSI
Miami.
>> I would recommend a website such ashttp://tvcountdown.comto track
>> shows. �There is no registration necessary - just select the shows
>> you're interested in, click 'Go', and set a bookmark. �It's intended
>> fo r the U.S. audience, but it will tell you which weeks a new
>> episode will be available. �
>
> Apparently not; it would have said last week had no new episode of
> Cold Case, but for us Canucks that would have been wrong.
Last week, it said that there was a new episode of Cold Case. As it
turned out, it was correct for the Canadian audience, but not for the
U.S. audience.
That's interesting. So maybe if you're in the West, they'd already know
of the US cancellation because of the sports by that time, so they pulled
Cold Case. But in the East, they didn't know it was going to be cancelled
so they put it on assuming everything was okay.
If that assumption is correct, then we know That Guy is in the east
somewhere.
Michael
> Except nothing. Since the DTV transition, the network affiliates have
> had these handy things called "subchannels" that can be used to
> broadcast more than one thing at once. So it is now possible for one
> of your FOX affiliates, say, to air, say, baseball and Fringe at the
> same time, using two different subchannels.
Not all the local affiliates use them.
Yup, I believe only the early broadcasts of Cold Case made it to air in
Canada. When CBS nixed it for the night, the Canadian broadcasts after
8:00 EDT were nixed.
I recorded the one that was shown at 7 EDT via ATV. It was the new episode.
..
Not necessarily. If he has a decent cable or satellite package, he gets
all sorts of channels from St. John's to Victoria - CBC, CTV, A and
Global etc. So if he is in BC, he could have watched the early broadcast
of CC on ATV at 3 in the afternoon.
..
Only correct until a late running football game nixed Cold Case for the
night. By then, some Canadians had seen it. Later Canadian broadcasts
were nixed.
..
> Geoff Warren wrote:
>> Little Green Man <lgm...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:bb821b9d-d8d2-4053-8c26-2af667cd2230@
31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>>> I would recommend a website such ashttp://tvcountdown.comto track
>>>> shows. There is no registration necessary - just select the shows
>>>> you're interested in, click 'Go', and set a bookmark. It's
>>>> intended fo r the U.S. audience, but it will tell you which weeks a
>>>> new episode will be available.
>>>
>>> Apparently not; it would have said last week had no new episode of
>>> Cold Case, but for us Canucks that would have been wrong.
>>
>> Last week, it said that there was a new episode of Cold Case. As it
>> turned out, it was correct for the Canadian audience, but not for the
>> U.S. audience.
>
> Only correct until a late running football game nixed Cold Case for
> the night. By then, some Canadians had seen it. Later Canadian
> broadcasts were nixed.
Well, it was apparently correct for him.
Even if they use them, various networks do not offer multiple feeds anyway,
so the subchannel is of no use for that purpose.
> > Except
thanks for deleting the rest of my quote.
Except that where I live there are only 4 "local" (ABC, CBS, Fox,
NBC)
channels then a few non-local (MSNBC, C-SPAN, PBS, TBS, CW, Discovery
and Lifetime), and the "sports tier" (beginning with ESPN) is an
additional fee ($24 a month for "basic" cable, then $59 for extended,
for alot of people that $35 is undoable).
>
> Except nothing. Since the DTV transition, the network affiliates have
> had these handy things called "subchannels" that can be used to
> broadcast more than one thing at once. So it is now possible for one
> of your FOX affiliates, say, to air, say, baseball and Fringe at the
> same time, using two different subchannels.
and how does the programmed VCR (which my Mother-in-law uses),
attached to the incoming cable line, allow her to select a "sub"
channel (it's a valid question)?
I suspect if it were possible, the local CBS/Fox (yes, the same people
own both) affiliate would be first to do this, because they can't sell
as many local commercials during "off" (non-Broncos) team games, but
they can sell them for the procedurals.
They'd want to charge more (and they would) for any additional
programming.
The same way it selects any other cable channel: by her programming
in the channel number she wants it to record at a specific time.
Patty
No, you're the liar.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
So, it will not tell ME which weeks a new episode will be available.
No, David is the liar.
None of the nasty things that David has said or implied about me are
at all true.
> That's interesting.
No, not really. I've seen thousands of similar insults from a whole
assortment of stupid people over the years, so actually it was kinda
boring.
How silly of them. Not my problem, though.
No, David is the liar.
None of the nasty things that David has said or implied about me are
at all true.
> > That's interesting.
No, it is not.
No, you're the liars.
None of the nasty things that either of you have said or implied about
No, you're the liars.
None of the nasty things that any of you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
"Clouddreamer" requested this:
Stop changing your nick.
It was not rude at all. You're the one who's rude, breaching
Usenet etiquette by constantly changing your pseudonym and
thus eluding people's killfiles.
Oh, and to save you the trouble, I didn't insult you and I
didn't call you a liar.
Patty
How stupid of them. It's the obvious solution to the scheduling
problem: two separate feeds, one for scheduled stuff and one for
irregular/unpredictable stuff, using all that new bandwidth DTV is
supposed to have made available.
If they won't see and do the obvious, then they are doomed. Already
we're seeing MyNetworkTV, CW, and NBC in trouble in the States
apparently, and CBS teetering a little. FOX is almost totally
discredited, between the fiasco that is Fox News and the fiasco that
is Dollhouse's ratings; Fringe is its main strength now, but not if
the pages of their scheduling book keep treating it as a red-headed
stepchild (which they also did all last year, with some hiatuses
lasting up to TWO MONTHS); viewers will abandon it in droves if it
can't be relied on and will wait for the DVD set or the torrents or
whatever. Which leaves what, ABC? And of course our networks here
(CTV, CBC, A) seem to mainly ride on yours' coat-tails. So if yours
implode, ours will probably follow them into a nosedive.
Then *new* companies will rise up to take television production into
the 21st century.
Is that what you want, though?
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> Except
Except nothing. Since the DTV transition, the network affiliates have
had these handy things called "subchannels" that can be used to
broadcast more than one thing at once. So it is now possible for one
of your FOX affiliates, say, to air, say, baseball and Fringe at the
same time, using two different subchannels.
> and how does the programmed VCR (which my Mother-in-law uses),
> attached to the incoming cable line, allow her to select a "sub"
> channel (it's a valid question)?
The VCR is obsolete. DTV and VCRs don't mix well anyway from what I
hear.
> I suspect if it were possible, the local CBS/Fox (yes, the same people
> own both) affiliate would be first to do this, because they can't sell
> as many local commercials during "off" (non-Broncos) team games, but
> they can sell them for the procedurals.
>
> They'd want to charge more (and they would) for any additional
> programming.
Charge more to who? They are funded by selling advertising space, and
they'd have more advertising space to sell. More eyeballs, too --
everyone who would have gone elsewhere had Fringe failed to air at
all.
Clouddreamer requested nothing. Clouddreamer demanded. *Requests*
begin with the word "please".
> [insults deleted]
No, you're the rude one.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
> Oh, and to save you the trouble, [calls me a liar]
[nothing of any value]
Wrong.
None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
>Except nothing. Since the DTV transition, the network affiliates have
>had these handy things called "subchannels" that can be used to
>broadcast more than one thing at once. So it is now possible for one
>of your FOX affiliates, say, to air, say, baseball and Fringe at the
>same time, using two different subchannels.
Except that they have no desire to do that.
>> [nothing of any value]
>
[whining deleted]
> On Oct 24, 4:26�pm, Geoff Warren <g-war...@myway.com> wrote:
>> Little Green Man <lgml...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:bb821b9d-d8d2-4053-8c26
>> -2af667...@31g2000vbf.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> I would recommend a website such as http://tvcountdown.com totrack
>> >> shows. �There is no registration necessary - just select the shows
>> >> you're interested in, click 'Go', and set a bookmark. �It's
>> >> intended fo r the U.S. audience, but it will tell you which weeks
>> >> a new episode will be available. �
>>
>> > Apparently not; it would have said last week had no new episode of
>> > Cold Case, but for us Canucks that would have been wrong.
>>
>> Last week, it said that there was a new episode of Cold Case. �As it
>> turned out, it was correct for the Canadian audience, but not for the
>> U.S. audience.
>
> So, it will not tell ME which weeks a new episode will be available.
In my experience, the only times it has not been correct is when a
change is made at the last minute. These changes have all been from
having a new episode to not having one, never having a new episode when
none was scheduled. And that doesn't happen very often.
At least, you'd know when no new episode was planned. But nothing is
absolutely certain.
LOL! How on earth can you say that I called you a liar from the
line, "Oh, and to save you the trouble, I didn't insult you and
I didn't call you a liar"??? Bwahahahaha!!!
Patty
Their stupidity and lack of much interest in maximizing revenues is no
skin off my nose.