Kay Lenz on The Closer
Dano
even 60 yet. What is wrong with these (once) beautiful women who think they
must look the same forever? Truly sad...
Smokie Darling (Annie)
I saw her in something a year or two back, and she looked worse
(bloated and wrinkled at the same time). It sems like she may have
had to have her entire upper lip rebuilt (could have been Botox I
guess). I think she had a nose job too. Sad innit? She did used to
be pretty.
Turk
wrote:
Was flipping channels and had same reaction. She was once a sexy
thing who had real acting chops. Sometimes plastic surgery from past
comes back to haunt you - her face looked lopsided. She also looked
tiny or shrunken.
Turk
suzeeq
She always was really petite though.
Tom
Linda Hamilton isn't looking so good, either.
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I suppose all of that smoking hasn't done either of them any good.
Tom
pkj...@aol.com
I think being out in the sun too much over the years has done most of
the damage to both of them.
With Kay Lenz, she looks to me more like she's had a few too many
significant weight gains and losses. After a while, the skin won't
snap back, resulting in a weird appearance. And ya know, she's
pushing 60 years old. These days, no one remembers what a 60-year-old
is supposed to look like. She most likely had her lips and nose done,
but the rest of her face doesn't appear to me like too much plastic
surgery. Give her a few more years, and she'll be on SS and Medicare
. . . what do people expect??
What drives me nuts about these conversations is that someone like
Linda Hamilton, who looks like you're supposed to when you're almost
55 years old and haven't had any work done, has people ragging on her.
AFAIK, she's always been close to the correct weight for her frame but
evidently has spent a lot of time in the sun. So, she has some deep
smile/frown furrows, along with a few in her forehead. Plus, she's
bi-polar, and meds can really screw up your skin.
Meanwhile, Jennifer Aniston looks almost the same as she did on
FRIENDS. Hello . . . she was 25 back then but is now 41. To me,
she's a little too Dorian Gray for my taste.
Either we want actors to try to improve their aging appearance, or we
want them to age naturally. If they choose improvement, it might
result in a bad outcome, but I get impatient with the weird
inconsistencies posted here.
Dano
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Smoking and sun too. She's even younger. Too bad. Time has not been kind.
shawn
I think it may also be a lack of makeup. Over on IMDB they had a
picture of her from 2005 at some event where she was in full makeup
and looked quite nice. Age and sun will cause damage to the skin but
much of that can be covered up with makeup. She isn't going to look
like she did when she was 20 but there's no reason she has to look
like she's 100.
>Meanwhile, Jennifer Aniston looks almost the same as she did on
>FRIENDS. Hello . . . she was 25 back then but is now 41. To me,
>she's a little too Dorian Gray for my taste.
She definitely looks older, but she doesn't have a lot of the wrinkles
that most people get. Heck, I'm older than her and I don't have any
wrinkles to speak of either (and I wasn't blessed with good genetics.)
It mostly comes down to limiting the time in the sun and taking at
least moderate care of yourself. In Hollywood it seems many of the
actors live outdoors when not working so it's little wonder they look
like prunes by the time they hit 50.
>Either we want actors to try to improve their aging appearance, or we
>want them to age naturally. If they choose improvement, it might
>result in a bad outcome, but I get impatient with the weird
>inconsistencies posted here.
I don't mind moderate improvements ( a little botox, maybe a small
lift to get rid of bags under the eyes) but when people start getting
a number of operations there's a good chance for something to go
wrong. Witness Janice Dickinson as a case where she appears to have
been trying to maintain her same look over the years but ended up
looking like something other than herself.
Dano
I didn't think I was "ragging on" either lady. I'm 58. My wife is 62.
While we may not be great beauties, I think we're pretty normal in the scope
of this whole aging thing and we both look much younger than either of these
two women. Without their advantages of wealth and personal trainers and
plastic surgeons. I don't know all the particulars of anyone's meds. At
our "advanced" age...we old folks all have our problems. My intent was not
to defame anyone. I just think it sad that so many actors that have been
blessed with natural good looks, can't simply accept the aging process and
go with the flow.
These two women do NOT look like their age is supposed to. I think you have
a rather twisted idea of what is normal aging...or "OLD" for that matter.
> Meanwhile, Jennifer Aniston looks almost the same as she did on
> FRIENDS. Hello . . . she was 25 back then but is now 41. To me,
> she's a little too Dorian Gray for my taste.
>
Well I think we can see where YOU'RE coming from if you think 41 is old.
What are you? 20?
> Either we want actors to try to improve their aging appearance, or we
> want them to age naturally. If they choose improvement, it might
> result in a bad outcome, but I get impatient with the weird
> inconsistencies posted here.
I love when people allow the flaws and lines to shine through as they get
older. Let your hair change normally and you actually look better. I'm not
talking about an occasional cosmetic procedure to correct some small or
major issue. In the case of Ms. Lenz I thought it was pretty obvious that
more was going on there. And BTW...I hardly think the 50's...in this day
and age...should be considered ancient...let alone the early 40's as you
seem to. There are many stunning 40, 50, even 60 year old folks that have
aged quite well and naturally. I find it almost tragic when I see a Kay
Lenz or Burt Reynolds and how hideously they have transformed themselves in
a pathetic and vain quest for some sort of immortality.
We haven't even touched on the issue of young people who insist on altering
every perceived "flaw" and end up looking like flawless Barbie and Ken
dolls. I love a woman who doesn't alter all of her differences. Than God
that women like Uma Thurman and Clair Danes didn't change their wonderful
faces for some boring and wrong headed notion of Madison Avenue/Hollywood
"beauty. I love the differences. The "flaws".
suzeeq
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT), Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 27, 8:43 am, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Dear God...what plastic surgeon did that to her? Good grief...she's not
>>> even 60 yet. What is wrong with these (once) beautiful women who think they
>>> must look the same forever? Truly sad...
>> Linda Hamilton isn't looking so good, either.
>>
>> Scroll down about half way...
>>
>> http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/07/26/comic-con-2010-roundup-biggest-stories/?ncid=webmail
>>
>> I suppose all of that smoking hasn't done either of them any good.
>>
>> Tom
>
> I think being out in the sun too much over the years has done most of
> the damage to both of them.
>
> With Kay Lenz, she looks to me more like she's had a few too many
> significant weight gains and losses. After a while, the skin won't
> snap back, resulting in a weird appearance. And ya know, she's
> pushing 60 years old. These days, no one remembers what a 60-year-old
> is supposed to look like. She most likely had her lips and nose done,
> but the rest of her face doesn't appear to me like too much plastic
> surgery. Give her a few more years, and she'll be on SS and Medicare
> . . . what do people expect??
I'm nearly 60 as well, and people think I'm 8-10 years younger. I went
to my 40th HS reunion last year and looked younger than many of my
classmates. A lot depends on your health as well as lifestyles.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
She was never the same after David Cassidy. I used to wonder why she
bothered marrying him, then again, I was a young teen and wondering
why *anyone* bothered getting married was pretty much the universal
thought among all my friends.
I suspect that at some point she had a substance (drugs and/or
alcohol) abuse problem. Her nose and upper lip both appeared to be
complete reconstructions.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> She definitely looks older, but she doesn't have a lot of the wrinkles
> that most people get. Heck, I'm older than her and I don't have any
> wrinkles to speak of either (and I wasn't blessed with good genetics.)
> It mostly comes down to limiting the time in the sun and taking at
> least moderate care of yourself. In Hollywood it seems many of the
> actors live outdoors when not working so it's little wonder they look
> like prunes by the time they hit 50.
Considering that Aniston has had plastic surgery (as has nearly every
other actress in Hollywood) since she was about 20 (thinking it's
funny that no one knows). She does it properly, a little here and
there. Unlike those who go from being wrinkled and awful looking to
having smooth perfect skin, then deny cosmetic work.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:03:03 -0700 (PDT), Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 27, 8:43 am, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Dear God...what plastic surgeon did that to her? Good grief...she's not
> >> even 60 yet. What is wrong with these (once) beautiful women who think they
> >> must look the same forever? Truly sad...
>
> >Linda Hamilton isn't looking so good, either.
>
> >Scroll down about half way...
>
>
> >I suppose all of that smoking hasn't done either of them any good.
>
> >Tom
>
> I think being out in the sun too much over the years has done most of
> the damage to both of them.
>
> With Kay Lenz, she looks to me more like she's had a few too many
> significant weight gains and losses. After a while, the skin won't
> snap back, resulting in a weird appearance. And ya know, she's
> pushing 60 years old. These days, no one remembers what a 60-year-old
> is supposed to look like. She most likely had her lips and nose done,
> but the rest of her face doesn't appear to me like too much plastic
> surgery. Give her a few more years, and she'll be on SS and Medicare
> . . . what do people expect??
It's the *amount* of change, and whether it looks like what nature
did, or what the person tried to stop. Most of the older females
should just give up trying to look young. I know not *one* person,
irl, who has had a facelift or any cosmetic surgery that was not
medically necessary (meaning, the eyelid trim so the person could
actually see, because they couldn't open their eyes). It's horrific
when someone goes to a butcher and thinks they look better.
> What drives me nuts about these conversations is that someone like
> Linda Hamilton, who looks like you're supposed to when you're almost
> 55 years old and haven't had any work done, has people ragging on her.
> AFAIK, she's always been close to the correct weight for her frame but
> evidently has spent a lot of time in the sun. So, she has some deep
> smile/frown furrows, along with a few in her forehead. Plus, she's
> bi-polar, and meds can really screw up your skin.
I think LH is a lovely woman. She's had a tough time in her personal
life (rather like Kathleen Turner). I have no complaints with how
either of them looks.
Cher, Faye Dunaway, Sharon Stone (these days)... those women are
frightening in their looks. Nicole Kidman is heading there, as are
several other "too-young-to-be-needing-CM" actresses/actors.
Mallard
wrote:
>Dear God...what plastic surgeon did that to her? Good grief...she's not
>even 60 yet. What is wrong with these (once) beautiful women who think they
>must look the same forever? Truly sad...
>
Yikes, I thought that was barbara hershey.
pkj...@aol.com
wrote:
Good grief . . . I'll be 59 in October. And, yeah, people think I'm
in my early 50s, too. That's not the point.
Have you looked at photos of your relatives back when they were our
age? We have a distorted image of what a person post-50 should look
like in 2010. Our relatives didn't stay out of the sun or use high
protection sunscreen. Lots of them didn't dye their hair. Lots of
them *did* smoke and drink a fair amount, and their exercise was quite
limited, in terms of what's recommended now. Plastic surgery was in
its infancy and not accessible to the general public as it is today.
>> Either we want actors to try to improve their aging appearance, or we
>> want them to age naturally. If they choose improvement, it might
>> result in a bad outcome, but I get impatient with the weird
>> inconsistencies posted here.
>
>I love when people allow the flaws and lines to shine through as they get
>older. Let your hair change normally and you actually look better. I'm not
>talking about an occasional cosmetic procedure to correct some small or
>major issue.
Oy . . . this was my point about Jennifer Aniston. She's been getting
small procedures for decades, all to look as if she hasn't aged. I
didn't say being 41 years old was "old". I said she was the new
Dorian Gray, and she is, precisely because she wants to look like
she's 25 years old forever. She's the poster child for your previous
comment:
> I just think it sad that so many actors that have been
>>blessed with natural good looks, can't simply accept the aging process and
>>go with the flow.
Do you not see the inconsistency of your defense of JA versus your
comments about KL and LH . . . "Oh, it's okay to have work done, as
long as the results are almost imperceptible to the public." . . .
????
Yeah, bad plastic surgery/too much Botox is terrible. However, you
can't support JA without acknowledging the culture *wants* actors to
look good forever, but they sometimes get crappy results. So, who is
feeding the Forever Young obsession with Hollywood? It's not in a
vacuum.
Rich
news:i2mnmh$q2d$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> Dear God...what plastic surgeon did that to her? Good grief...she's
> not even 60 yet. What is wrong with these (once) beautiful women who
> think they must look the same forever? Truly sad...
>
>
>
She has a mouth now like a bass.