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stonej

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Feb 10, 2008, 11:21:41 AM2/10/08
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No way could they get away with cartoon characters doing something
like this these days.
Back in the early 1960s Winston was a big sponsor of the show.

stonej

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Feb 10, 2008, 11:27:05 AM2/10/08
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Of course cigarette commercials are banned from TV these days.

Garondo Marondo

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Feb 10, 2008, 11:35:48 AM2/10/08
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On Feb 10, 11:21 am, stonej <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:

The Flintstones was also a primetime series back then like The
Simpsons today.

Audie Murphy's Ghost

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Feb 10, 2008, 12:53:53 PM2/10/08
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Garondo Marondo <Classic...@gmail.com> wrote:


And it was aimed at adults, or at least that was the original idea. I
don't think it worked out very well, but the kid audience has kept the
show alive for nearly fifty years now.

Barry Margolin

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Feb 10, 2008, 3:27:22 PM2/10/08
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In article <100220081253538751%takebac...@2008.com>,

It was basically a prehistoric "Honeymooners", so it was probably
targeted at the same audience.

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stonej

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Feb 10, 2008, 4:59:08 PM2/10/08
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On Feb 10, 3:27 pm, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <100220081253538751%takebackamer...@2008.com>,
>  Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamer...@2008.com> wrote:
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> > In article
> > <652fd3e7-d5bb-40f0-bc5a-2c6bf1cd1...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

> > Garondo Marondo <Classic.Mr.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Feb 10, 11:21 am, stonej <sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu> wrote:
> > > >http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c&feature=related
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> > > > No way could they get away with cartoon characters doing something
> > > > like this these days.
> > > > Back in the early 1960s Winston was a big sponsor of the show.
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> > > The Flintstones was also a primetime series back then like The
> > > Simpsons today.
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> > And it was aimed at adults, or at least that was the original idea.  I
> > don't think it worked out very well, but the kid audience has kept the
> > show alive for nearly fifty years now.
>
> It was basically a prehistoric "Honeymooners", so it was probably
> targeted at the same audience.
>
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> Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA
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I believe in its network run it came on Fridays at 7:30 PM in the
eastern time zone (network prime time started earlier back then).
It was indeed very much like the "Honeymooners" and I read somewhere
that Jackie Gleason threatened to sue them. In some ways it was the
"Simpsons" of its time but not as crude and insulting.

Russell Watson

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Feb 10, 2008, 7:19:57 PM2/10/08
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They won't even show old cartoons where people smoke now (such as the
old Popeye cartoons where he smoked a pipe and Brutus/Bluto often had
a cigarette hanging off his bottom lip), let alone use cartoon
characters in cigarette ads (if they were still allowed).

sarah...@gmail.com

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Feb 10, 2008, 7:50:58 PM2/10/08
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This is probably veering off-topic, but I watched Disney's 1950s
movie '20,000 Leagues Under the Sea' last week and remarked to a
friend that they'd never let Kirk Douglas' character drink, let alone
get drunk, if that movie was made today. I don't remember if there
was any smoking involved, but there was lots of drinking, and one
character got shot. For a Disney movie, aimed at kids, it was pretty
rough!

Garondo Marondo

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Feb 10, 2008, 8:09:24 PM2/10/08
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Johnny Depp drinks a lot in the Pirates films, also a Disney effort.

Michael Black

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Feb 11, 2008, 1:03:28 AM2/11/08
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Garondo Marondo (Classic...@gmail.com) writes:

> On Feb 10, 7:50=A0pm, sarah.ly...@gmail.com wrote:
>> This is probably veering off-topic, but I watched Disney's 1950s
>> movie =A0'20,000 Leagues Under the Sea' last week and remarked to a

>> friend that they'd never let Kirk Douglas' character drink, let alone
>> get drunk, if that movie was made today. =A0I don't remember if there

>> was any smoking involved, but there was lots of drinking, and one
>> character got shot. For a Disney movie, aimed at kids, it was pretty
>> rough!
>
> Johnny Depp drinks a lot in the Pirates films, also a Disney effort.

But of course, anyone who watched the Disney show (whatever specific
title it went under at any given time) when Disney actually did
the introductions would remember when they aired that bit about
the coming attractions to Disneyland. Something about Tomorrowland,
and something about "Pirates of the Caribbean". And you can't have
seen that, or actually seen the attraction I assume, and not remember
that drinking was a part of that. The movies didn't start it, the
attraction did.

And having watched Disney's "Treasure Island" again a few weeks ago,
it's easy to assume the attraction was in part based on the mythology
about pirates built up by the movie and even the book. Rum is
common, yo ho ho.

Michael

M.L.

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Feb 11, 2008, 6:50:40 AM2/11/08
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>>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c&feature=related
>>>>
>>>> No way could they get away with cartoon characters doing something
>>>> like this these days.
>>>> Back in the early 1960s Winston was a big sponsor of the show.
>>>
>>> The Flintstones was also a primetime series back then like The
>>> Simpsons today.

>> And it was aimed at adults, or at least that was the original idea.
>> I don't think it worked out very well, but the kid audience has kept
>> the show alive for nearly fifty years now.
>
> It was basically a prehistoric "Honeymooners", so it was probably
> targeted at the same audience.

Flintstones was marketed as a family show. Back then it was nothing for
kids to watch cigarette commercials. There was even candy made that
looked like cigarettes. Eating them and playing pretend smokers at
school was no problem.

Anim8rFSK

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Feb 11, 2008, 8:13:21 AM2/11/08
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In article <fooofg$g84$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca>,
et...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) wrote:

> Garondo Marondo (Classic...@gmail.com) writes:
> > On Feb 10, 7:50=A0pm, sarah.ly...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> This is probably veering off-topic, but I watched Disney's 1950s
> >> movie =A0'20,000 Leagues Under the Sea' last week and remarked to a
> >> friend that they'd never let Kirk Douglas' character drink, let alone
> >> get drunk, if that movie was made today. =A0I don't remember if there
> >> was any smoking involved, but there was lots of drinking, and one
> >> character got shot. For a Disney movie, aimed at kids, it was pretty
> >> rough!

Of course there's smoking:

"Delightful smoke, different somehow. Havana?"
"Seaweed"

and when feeding cigars to Esme the seal:

"Take it easy, you don't have to inhale them"

There's not "lots of drinking" though; that's nonsense. Ned steals
'very pure alcohol' from the specimen case 'cause he wants the bottles
to send messages with.

"One character got shot" -- yeah, after he's murdered hundreds of
people, on screen.

--
Star Trek 08:

No Shat, No Show.

Patrick McNamara

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Feb 11, 2008, 12:37:49 PM2/11/08
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>>>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c&feature=related

> Flintstones was marketed as a family show. Back then it was nothing for
> kids to watch cigarette commercials. There was even candy made that looked
> like cigarettes. Eating them and playing pretend smokers at school was no
> problem.

Flintstones was initally a prime time animated show like Family Guy or The
Simpsons is today, so they had a little more leaway. And it came out at a
time when cigarette ads were not restricted. Smoking was practically
expected when one became an adult, much as drinking still is.

The Popeye cigarettes are still around, but they're now called "candy
sticks". Licorice cigars and pipes are still around but can be hard to find.
I haven't seen any chocolate cigarettes for some while now. With their paper
wrapping, they looked the most for the real thing.

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stonej

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Feb 11, 2008, 3:34:35 PM2/11/08
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I remember candy cigarettes and used to eat them as a kid, thankfully
I never took up the nasty habit
of smoking the real thing.

Seerialmom

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Feb 11, 2008, 4:02:45 PM2/11/08
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I bought a CD that has a bunch of these old commercials on it (Dollar
Tree...gotta love it). If you look in old magazines, you may find
similar no longer condoned ads (Doctors touting the health benefits of
smoking).

Seerialmom

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Feb 11, 2008, 4:08:21 PM2/11/08
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That's because "back then" the reality of smoking causing diseases
hadn't hit. And it was a given that once you grew up you'd possibly
smoke (similar to a rite of passage).

Ubiquitous

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Feb 18, 2008, 12:50:40 PM2/18/08
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sto...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote:

Thanks for the newsflash, dude.

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