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Obveeus
Nov 10, 2012, 8:25:11 AM11/10/12
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I watched:
BLOOD & CHROME: The first two 'episodes' of the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
prequel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT79x4qM4FE&list=PL549EB9DBB2FF8C24&index=1&feature=plcp
I like the universe and I am interested in learning more about the history.
I am sad that this is a TV movie rather than a TV series. The guy from
SKINS (UK) plays a young, cocky Adama just assigned to a shinny new
GALACTICA well, but the film of this series is quite annoying as the camera
never seems to pan out enough to capture a whole character or a whole ship.
GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state. This
was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with PTSD that
has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white male. I just
didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes make lousy
detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the execution so the
first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in prison's wife? Then
they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on either of these two trips?
When they do finally decide to go after the bad guy, they don't arrest him
when they talk to him...instead, they let him go and then they head off to
his house and break in under the guise that they have a right to break into
his house because he has an outstanding warrant. It seems to me that a good
lawyer would end up having 100% of the dead body evidence in his home thrown
out because it was illegally obtained. Ah well, at least they finally went
to his house as it was the FIRST place they should have gone. Our heroes
are lucky that there was a second pile of evidence at the other property
location. Meanwhile, the way politicians work, there is close to zero
chance that the Governor would have taken a call and taken action to stay a
death row execution in the remaining 60 seconds that our heroes left for
that stage of the show. About the only thing in this episode that I liked
was the bit with the Captain finally being proactive and working to solve
his obsession...and, of course, it will be interesting to see how/if
he(they) can get Monroe's help without the Captain having to reveal his
Wesen-ness.
AUDREY:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCTP481uj2b96qsbmK8AgGnP3o4YVNqFO&feature=plcp
Kim Shaw plays a person on a TV cooking show that *loves* food. I think
this is supposed to fill the erotic needs for all you people that talk about
SANDRA LEE and fantasize about women seductively putting food into their
mouth.
What did you watch?
BLOOD & CHROME: The first two 'episodes' of the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
prequel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT79x4qM4FE&list=PL549EB9DBB2FF8C24&index=1&feature=plcp
I like the universe and I am interested in learning more about the history.
I am sad that this is a TV movie rather than a TV series. The guy from
SKINS (UK) plays a young, cocky Adama just assigned to a shinny new
GALACTICA well, but the film of this series is quite annoying as the camera
never seems to pan out enough to capture a whole character or a whole ship.
GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state. This
was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with PTSD that
has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white male. I just
didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes make lousy
detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the execution so the
first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in prison's wife? Then
they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on either of these two trips?
When they do finally decide to go after the bad guy, they don't arrest him
when they talk to him...instead, they let him go and then they head off to
his house and break in under the guise that they have a right to break into
his house because he has an outstanding warrant. It seems to me that a good
lawyer would end up having 100% of the dead body evidence in his home thrown
out because it was illegally obtained. Ah well, at least they finally went
to his house as it was the FIRST place they should have gone. Our heroes
are lucky that there was a second pile of evidence at the other property
location. Meanwhile, the way politicians work, there is close to zero
chance that the Governor would have taken a call and taken action to stay a
death row execution in the remaining 60 seconds that our heroes left for
that stage of the show. About the only thing in this episode that I liked
was the bit with the Captain finally being proactive and working to solve
his obsession...and, of course, it will be interesting to see how/if
he(they) can get Monroe's help without the Captain having to reveal his
Wesen-ness.
AUDREY:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCTP481uj2b96qsbmK8AgGnP3o4YVNqFO&feature=plcp
Kim Shaw plays a person on a TV cooking show that *loves* food. I think
this is supposed to fill the erotic needs for all you people that talk about
SANDRA LEE and fantasize about women seductively putting food into their
mouth.
What did you watch?
Ubiquitous
Nov 10, 2012, 8:37:44 AM11/10/12
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In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>What did you watch?
KITCHEN NIGHTMARES:
"Mama Maria's". Still the same formulaic crap, but now with amped up
dramatics! This week was about some sad bloke who took over his parent's
pizzaria/restaurant after they died. I couldn't decide on how I felt
about the owner. On the one hand, he was clearly having issues with his
dead parents but the other hand, he needed to let it go and move on
already. Is this the first time someone was literally sent to the
hospital after eating at a restaurant?
FRINGE:
"Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found". The team investigate
a pocket universe Walter created for another piece to the Rube Goldberg
solution to The Observers. I liked the pocket universe part, but it made
no sense.
THE WALKING DEAD:
"The Killer Within". The prison is suddenly overrun by A bunch of
Walkers who somehow got past the perimeter fencing. Meanwhile, Andrea
and Michonne putz around with The Governor.
THE O'REILLY FACTOR
� The sudden exit of Gen. Petraeus
� Artur Davis: GOP should focus on Latinos and blue collars
� The danger of moving to the middle
NIGHT GALLERY:
A sorceror (which is NOT a male witch, BTW!) hires a man to translate
some obscure book he and his late twin were working on. The story and
ending were too muddled, much like most of the stories on this show.
Hey, it's Bill Bixby and Vincent Price!
What did you watch?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
>What did you watch?
KITCHEN NIGHTMARES:
"Mama Maria's". Still the same formulaic crap, but now with amped up
dramatics! This week was about some sad bloke who took over his parent's
pizzaria/restaurant after they died. I couldn't decide on how I felt
about the owner. On the one hand, he was clearly having issues with his
dead parents but the other hand, he needed to let it go and move on
already. Is this the first time someone was literally sent to the
hospital after eating at a restaurant?
FRINGE:
"Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found". The team investigate
a pocket universe Walter created for another piece to the Rube Goldberg
solution to The Observers. I liked the pocket universe part, but it made
no sense.
THE WALKING DEAD:
"The Killer Within". The prison is suddenly overrun by A bunch of
Walkers who somehow got past the perimeter fencing. Meanwhile, Andrea
and Michonne putz around with The Governor.
THE O'REILLY FACTOR
� The sudden exit of Gen. Petraeus
� Artur Davis: GOP should focus on Latinos and blue collars
� The danger of moving to the middle
NIGHT GALLERY:
A sorceror (which is NOT a male witch, BTW!) hires a man to translate
some obscure book he and his late twin were working on. The story and
ending were too muddled, much like most of the stories on this show.
Hey, it's Bill Bixby and Vincent Price!
What did you watch?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
David V. Loewe, Jr
Nov 10, 2012, 10:40:52 AM11/10/12
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Grey's Anatomy - I think William Daniels' Dr. Craig Thomas (Mark Craig
with the serial numbers filed off) finally succeeded in humanizing
Christina.
Scandal - I see a train wreck coming.
Last Resort
Body of Proof "Your Number's Up"
Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
equal footing.
--
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we
should thank God that such men lived."
George Smith Patton, Jr.
with the serial numbers filed off) finally succeeded in humanizing
Christina.
Scandal - I see a train wreck coming.
Last Resort
Body of Proof "Your Number's Up"
Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
equal footing.
--
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we
should thank God that such men lived."
George Smith Patton, Jr.
Mason Barge
Nov 10, 2012, 11:32:52 AM11/10/12
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THE PACIFIC (3 & 4)
Not as good as Band of Brothers, but still pretty good. I think it would
have done better if it hadn't had such high expectations. I actually like
it better now than the first time I watched it. Plus, my wife will
actually watch it with me.
Grade: B+
For whatever reason I'm just over second-rate sci-fi and monster stuff.
Suddenly I can hardly bear to watch it.
Not as good as Band of Brothers, but still pretty good. I think it would
have done better if it hadn't had such high expectations. I actually like
it better now than the first time I watched it. Plus, my wife will
actually watch it with me.
Grade: B+
For whatever reason I'm just over second-rate sci-fi and monster stuff.
Suddenly I can hardly bear to watch it.
Arthur Lipscomb
Nov 10, 2012, 11:55:12 AM11/10/12
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On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
> equal footing.
>
Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
> equal footing.
>
I watched:
Supernatural - "Southern Comfort" Sam and Dean chase a Civil War ghost
with help from the new Bobby. It was OK.
The Raven (Netflix rental) - John Cusack as Edgar Allen Poe who has to
help the police track down a serial killer using Poe's work as
inspiration. I didn't really follow the plot but I am glad I didn't pay
to see in the theater.
(Recorded for later: Nikita, Grimm and Degrassi)
Ian J. Ball
Nov 10, 2012, 11:20:08 AM11/10/12
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In article <r60t98pb8qqsubu9v...@4ax.com>,
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> THE PACIFIC (3 & 4)
>
> Not as good as Band of Brothers, but still pretty good. I think it would
> have done better if it hadn't had such high expectations. I actually like
> it better now than the first time I watched it. Plus, my wife will
> actually watch it with me.
>
> Grade: B+
Apparently, Caribe Heine from "H2O" is in the last episode of this.
> THE PACIFIC (3 & 4)
>
> Not as good as Band of Brothers, but still pretty good. I think it would
> have done better if it hadn't had such high expectations. I actually like
> it better now than the first time I watched it. Plus, my wife will
> actually watch it with me.
>
> Grade: B+
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
Robin Miller
Nov 10, 2012, 12:41:37 PM11/10/12
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Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>>
>> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
>> equal footing.
>>
>
> Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
>
Because characters in TV shows always do that.
> On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>>
>> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
>> equal footing.
>>
>
> Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
>
--Robin
Ian J. Ball
Nov 10, 2012, 11:49:14 AM11/10/12
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In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
with Reid was silly.
And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
of this current season.
Madison County (Chiller) - A micro-horror flick that follows the usual
tropes - inbred town sheltering a pig's head wearing psycho killer.
There's a better flick to be made from this premise, but this wasn't it
- especially maddening was the 'idiot plotting' from the characters:
such as, when you've got a psycho killer down, stab (or axe) him MORE
THAN ONCE, YOU **IDIOT**!! - in fact, you should both stab him in the
heart *and* cut off his head for good measure. Ditto for killing any of
his family - once you've figured out that they are the killer's family,
and mean you only harm. Oy yoy yoy...
Beauty and The Beast (recorded) - "Saturn Returns". Truthfully, I only
watched this to see an episode with a fair amount of Nicole Gale
Anderson as Kristin Kreuk's sister - she's gotten a 'bob' haircut, which
I don't care for (though it looks OK on her), but I'm hoping she grows
her hair back out. Anyway, this show does nothing for me - everyone's in
love with Kristen Kreuk despite the fact that she's boring... [yawn].
Nikita - "Consequences". Not only is Owen (Devon Sawa) back, but so is
Amanda! (and Uri, and Amanda's new "lieutenant" played by Sarah Allen),
in probably the best outing of the season so far. Good balance between
action, and character development (Owen really presses Nikita on the
"reformed" Division, and whether the gov't which just stab them in the
back at the end...). Meanwhile, Shawn Pierce righteously dumps Alex, who
really has no business still sticking around anymore (and who's now a
re-addict for her efforts). Basically, a "To Be Continued", as this
represents just Amanda's opening gambit to take revenge on Nikita.
CSI:NY (OnDemand) - "Clue". A relatively silly episode, guest-starring
Tara Summers (from "Ringer" and "Damages") and Jake Thomas (formerly of
"Lizzie McGuire"! - he's now 22!!!). I initially enjoyed the subplot
with the "prank" on Lindsay, but it didn't really go anywhere. Neither
did the ballet opening (I figured this was going to be about the ballet
company, but the case soon veered away from that...)
I only saw a bit of "Blue Bloods" - don't care for Danny's new temp.
partner (who's conveniently relevant knowledge of voodoo was incredibly
forced and tacky writing...), and the cases were lame this week anyway.
Recorded for later: Degrassi, Fringe, and Haven.
wrote:
> What did you watch?
Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> What did you watch?
Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
with Reid was silly.
And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
of this current season.
Madison County (Chiller) - A micro-horror flick that follows the usual
tropes - inbred town sheltering a pig's head wearing psycho killer.
There's a better flick to be made from this premise, but this wasn't it
- especially maddening was the 'idiot plotting' from the characters:
such as, when you've got a psycho killer down, stab (or axe) him MORE
THAN ONCE, YOU **IDIOT**!! - in fact, you should both stab him in the
heart *and* cut off his head for good measure. Ditto for killing any of
his family - once you've figured out that they are the killer's family,
and mean you only harm. Oy yoy yoy...
Beauty and The Beast (recorded) - "Saturn Returns". Truthfully, I only
watched this to see an episode with a fair amount of Nicole Gale
Anderson as Kristin Kreuk's sister - she's gotten a 'bob' haircut, which
I don't care for (though it looks OK on her), but I'm hoping she grows
her hair back out. Anyway, this show does nothing for me - everyone's in
love with Kristen Kreuk despite the fact that she's boring... [yawn].
Nikita - "Consequences". Not only is Owen (Devon Sawa) back, but so is
Amanda! (and Uri, and Amanda's new "lieutenant" played by Sarah Allen),
in probably the best outing of the season so far. Good balance between
action, and character development (Owen really presses Nikita on the
"reformed" Division, and whether the gov't which just stab them in the
back at the end...). Meanwhile, Shawn Pierce righteously dumps Alex, who
really has no business still sticking around anymore (and who's now a
re-addict for her efforts). Basically, a "To Be Continued", as this
represents just Amanda's opening gambit to take revenge on Nikita.
CSI:NY (OnDemand) - "Clue". A relatively silly episode, guest-starring
Tara Summers (from "Ringer" and "Damages") and Jake Thomas (formerly of
"Lizzie McGuire"! - he's now 22!!!). I initially enjoyed the subplot
with the "prank" on Lindsay, but it didn't really go anywhere. Neither
did the ballet opening (I figured this was going to be about the ballet
company, but the case soon veered away from that...)
I only saw a bit of "Blue Bloods" - don't care for Danny's new temp.
partner (who's conveniently relevant knowledge of voodoo was incredibly
forced and tacky writing...), and the cases were lame this week anyway.
Recorded for later: Degrassi, Fringe, and Haven.
JRStern
Nov 10, 2012, 12:51:34 PM11/10/12
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CSI:NY
Mac finally confides his problem. Oh, and there was a psycho killer.
Blue Bloods
We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye. And there was a voodoo
murder. And Magnum, er Selleck, that is Frank arranges to save the
career of his PR guy from a brief affair, very timely with the
Petraeus thing in the news.
--
Funny, in both of these the presumed A plot of murder, was just a
framework for the more dramatic B, C, or contractual plots. Is this
some kind of screenwriting fad?
J.
Mac finally confides his problem. Oh, and there was a psycho killer.
Blue Bloods
We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye. And there was a voodoo
murder. And Magnum, er Selleck, that is Frank arranges to save the
career of his PR guy from a brief affair, very timely with the
Petraeus thing in the news.
--
Funny, in both of these the presumed A plot of murder, was just a
framework for the more dramatic B, C, or contractual plots. Is this
some kind of screenwriting fad?
J.
Dano
Nov 10, 2012, 1:15:16 PM11/10/12
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"Arthur Lipscomb" wrote in message news:k7m0th$r8p$1...@dont-email.me...
On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
> equal footing.
>
Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
==========================================
Uh...because it's crazy freaking dangerous? To himself...but maybe to all
of them. You gotta think it's a pretty nutty, desperate measure.
Besides...the Observers have that whole mind reading thing going for them
too. By leaving his own people out of the loop he's shielding the knowledge
from getting to the Observers if nothing else.
On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
> equal footing.
>
Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
Uh...because it's crazy freaking dangerous? To himself...but maybe to all
of them. You gotta think it's a pretty nutty, desperate measure.
Besides...the Observers have that whole mind reading thing going for them
too. By leaving his own people out of the loop he's shielding the knowledge
from getting to the Observers if nothing else.
anim8rFSK
Nov 10, 2012, 1:41:05 PM11/10/12
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-FE9...@news.eternal-september.org>,
All this drama over a drunken smooch at a party with a guy she dates
casually? Really!?!?
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
<ijball-NO_SPAM-FE9...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What did you watch?
>
>
> In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What did you watch?
>
>
> Beauty and The Beast (recorded) - "Saturn Returns". Truthfully, I only
> watched this to see an episode with a fair amount of Nicole Gale
> Anderson as Kristin Kreuk's sister - she's gotten a 'bob' haircut, which
> I don't care for (though it looks OK on her), but I'm hoping she grows
> her hair back out. Anyway, this show does nothing for me - everyone's in
> love with Kristen Kreuk despite the fact that she's boring... [yawn].
Seriously. Her partner's hot, and seems fun, and definitely easy.
> watched this to see an episode with a fair amount of Nicole Gale
> Anderson as Kristin Kreuk's sister - she's gotten a 'bob' haircut, which
> I don't care for (though it looks OK on her), but I'm hoping she grows
> her hair back out. Anyway, this show does nothing for me - everyone's in
> love with Kristen Kreuk despite the fact that she's boring... [yawn].
All this drama over a drunken smooch at a party with a guy she dates
casually? Really!?!?
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
erilar
Nov 10, 2012, 2:17:50 PM11/10/12
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I watched Rachel Maddow and finished a really good book. I've decided
not to waste any more time on either CSI-NY or Grimm. I have one other
show on TuesdayNCIS), two on Monday(Bones and Castle), and one I keep
watching in amused disbelief on Wednesday(Arrow). Oh, and I record
Covert Affairs(I like Augie and don't have any strong dislikes) and
watch it in fits and starts. I have a real backlog of ebooks. . .
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
not to waste any more time on either CSI-NY or Grimm. I have one other
show on TuesdayNCIS), two on Monday(Bones and Castle), and one I keep
watching in amused disbelief on Wednesday(Arrow). Oh, and I record
Covert Affairs(I like Augie and don't have any strong dislikes) and
watch it in fits and starts. I have a real backlog of ebooks. . .
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
erilar
Nov 10, 2012, 2:19:28 PM11/10/12
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anim8rFSK
Nov 10, 2012, 2:34:56 PM11/10/12
to
In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-F36...@news.eternal-september.org>,
on the teen nick site, HEARTBREAK and CONNECTIONS.
The back half is still not nearly as good as the front half of this
series, and it occurs to me that the final 13 director might be a Joel
Schumuker type, which would explain the lack of cute girl surfing (it's
all stock footage now isn't it?) and cute girl energy dance (almost no
energy, and no dancing) in exchange for lots of shirtless glistening
boys and children.
In the second ep Piper the Police Dog is back! - but - only in inserted
stock footage. Director Clarry apparently doesn't like dogs either;
just horses.
Kiki gets a smooch!
Brandon gets super powers and turns pretty much evil, which comes as no
surprise to anybody that remembers him from the beginning of the series.
The teen nick video stuff is all screwed up and keeps jumping to the
wrong thing. They have 5 minutes of HEARTBREAK stuck on the end of
CONNECTIONS.
Cameo or guest appearances by Mom, Bandit, Diner Owner, and douchebag
teacher. I think Madison may be toast.
For Ian & David:
www.imdb.com/list/Yc17SX8XfZY/
"Awesome austrailiens"
<ijball-NO_SPAM-F36...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> In article <r60t98pb8qqsubu9v...@4ax.com>,
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > THE PACIFIC (3 & 4)
> >
> > Not as good as Band of Brothers, but still pretty good. I think it would
> > have done better if it hadn't had such high expectations. I actually like
> > it better now than the first time I watched it. Plus, my wife will
> > actually watch it with me.
> >
> > Grade: B+
>
> Apparently, Caribe Heine from "H2O" is in the last episode of this.
Speaking of witch, I watched the two latest episodes of ALIEN SURFGIRLS
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > THE PACIFIC (3 & 4)
> >
> > Not as good as Band of Brothers, but still pretty good. I think it would
> > have done better if it hadn't had such high expectations. I actually like
> > it better now than the first time I watched it. Plus, my wife will
> > actually watch it with me.
> >
> > Grade: B+
>
> Apparently, Caribe Heine from "H2O" is in the last episode of this.
on the teen nick site, HEARTBREAK and CONNECTIONS.
The back half is still not nearly as good as the front half of this
series, and it occurs to me that the final 13 director might be a Joel
Schumuker type, which would explain the lack of cute girl surfing (it's
all stock footage now isn't it?) and cute girl energy dance (almost no
energy, and no dancing) in exchange for lots of shirtless glistening
boys and children.
In the second ep Piper the Police Dog is back! - but - only in inserted
stock footage. Director Clarry apparently doesn't like dogs either;
just horses.
Kiki gets a smooch!
Brandon gets super powers and turns pretty much evil, which comes as no
surprise to anybody that remembers him from the beginning of the series.
The teen nick video stuff is all screwed up and keeps jumping to the
wrong thing. They have 5 minutes of HEARTBREAK stuck on the end of
CONNECTIONS.
Cameo or guest appearances by Mom, Bandit, Diner Owner, and douchebag
teacher. I think Madison may be toast.
For Ian & David:
www.imdb.com/list/Yc17SX8XfZY/
"Awesome austrailiens"
Mason Barge
Nov 10, 2012, 2:44:52 PM11/10/12
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bikinis (preferably on a board) and/or dancing for at least a minute, I
ain't watching!
Mason Barge
Nov 10, 2012, 2:46:43 PM11/10/12
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like:
http://masonbarge.com/WaitingWings1680.jpg
I could try a sharpen filter on this, but it might mess up the oil paint
effect.
Ian J. Ball
Nov 10, 2012, 2:06:15 PM11/10/12
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In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> Blue Bloods
>
> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
Esposito's Jackie?...
JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >What did you watch?
>
> CSI:NY
>
> Mac finally confides his problem.
Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >What did you watch?
>
> CSI:NY
>
> Mac finally confides his problem.
> Blue Bloods
>
> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
Esposito's Jackie?...
David Barnett
Nov 10, 2012, 3:47:05 PM11/10/12
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In article <k7llc2$kng$1...@dont-email.me>,
web...@polaris.net says...
>
> What did you watch?
Yesterday I went on too watch:
BLUE BLOODS: Greener Grass
JE was credited but didn't appear.
Average episode
BONES: The Tiger in the Tale
Posts elsewhere about Sweets girlfriend.
Another average episode.
NIKITA: True Believer
Yet another average episode.
XIII: Pilot
Missed this show twice before, but now on automatic
recording from a cable channel.
Interesting Canadian show, with an Australian lead &
Stephen McHattie.
This morning, Sun Nov 11, I watched:
KINGDOM: 3-04
A UK show I like & discussed previously.
--
David Barnett
web...@polaris.net says...
>
> What did you watch?
Yesterday I went on too watch:
BLUE BLOODS: Greener Grass
JE was credited but didn't appear.
Average episode
BONES: The Tiger in the Tale
Posts elsewhere about Sweets girlfriend.
Another average episode.
NIKITA: True Believer
Yet another average episode.
XIII: Pilot
Missed this show twice before, but now on automatic
recording from a cable channel.
Interesting Canadian show, with an Australian lead &
Stephen McHattie.
This morning, Sun Nov 11, I watched:
KINGDOM: 3-04
A UK show I like & discussed previously.
--
David Barnett
JRStern
Nov 10, 2012, 4:12:05 PM11/10/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >What did you watch?
>>
>> CSI:NY
>>
>> Mac finally confides his problem.
>
>Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
>
>> Blue Bloods
>>
>> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
>
>OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
>Esposito's Jackie?...
She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >What did you watch?
>>
>> CSI:NY
>>
>> Mac finally confides his problem.
>
>Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
>
>> Blue Bloods
>>
>> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
>
>OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
>Esposito's Jackie?...
for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
his coffee, roll credits.
J.
BTR1701
Nov 10, 2012, 4:44:38 PM11/10/12
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In article <3lgt98tg1eu1i9k2b...@4ax.com>,
just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
I don't know of any police department that just lets you pack up and
take off for however long you feel like and keeps paying you and keeps
your job open for whenever you decide to come back.
JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What did you watch?
> >>
> >> CSI:NY
> >>
> >> Mac finally confides his problem.
> >
> >Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
> >
> >> Blue Bloods
> >>
> >> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
> >
> >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
> >Esposito's Jackie?...
>
> She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
> for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
> She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
> anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
> his coffee, roll credits.
I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >What did you watch?
> >>
> >> CSI:NY
> >>
> >> Mac finally confides his problem.
> >
> >Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
> >
> >> Blue Bloods
> >>
> >> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
> >
> >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
> >Esposito's Jackie?...
>
> She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
> for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
> She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
> anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
> his coffee, roll credits.
just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
I don't know of any police department that just lets you pack up and
take off for however long you feel like and keeps paying you and keeps
your job open for whenever you decide to come back.
BTR1701
Nov 10, 2012, 4:47:56 PM11/10/12
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-FE9...@news.eternal-september.org>,
I mean, the whole notion of an apprentice is where a novice studies and
assists someone accomplished in the field. If the serial killer is still
just budding, he ain't no master. Lillard should have hooked up with
Hannibal Lecter or something if he wanted to be an apprentice.
> I only saw a bit of "Blue Bloods" - don't care for Danny's new temp.
> partner (who's conveniently relevant knowledge of voodoo was incredibly
> forced and tacky writing...), and the cases were lame this week anyway.
I agree that it was beyond silly for his new partner to show up and just
happen to have the rare expertise needed to deal with the case, but I
did like the actress and wouldn't mind seeing her stick around.
<ijball-NO_SPAM-FE9...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What did you watch?
>
> Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer.
Wouldn't they both just be budding serial killers, then?
> wrote:
>
> > What did you watch?
>
> Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer.
I mean, the whole notion of an apprentice is where a novice studies and
assists someone accomplished in the field. If the serial killer is still
just budding, he ain't no master. Lillard should have hooked up with
Hannibal Lecter or something if he wanted to be an apprentice.
> I only saw a bit of "Blue Bloods" - don't care for Danny's new temp.
> partner (who's conveniently relevant knowledge of voodoo was incredibly
> forced and tacky writing...), and the cases were lame this week anyway.
happen to have the rare expertise needed to deal with the case, but I
did like the actress and wouldn't mind seeing her stick around.
Ian J. Ball
Nov 10, 2012, 4:33:43 PM11/10/12
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In article <atropos-031934...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
She was boring and stilted. So, no - get rid of her, please.
Ian J. Ball
Nov 10, 2012, 4:36:42 PM11/10/12
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In article <3lgt98tg1eu1i9k2b...@4ax.com>,
IIRC, last we saw of Jackie, she had a rich boyfriend - a better
write-out would have been that she was marrying the rich boyfriend, and
was leaving the job for that reason.
Man, even a 2-year-old could have written that.
JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Blue Bloods
> >>
> >> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
> >
> >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
> >Esposito's Jackie?...
>
> She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
> for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
> She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
> anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
> his coffee, roll credits.
That's a really shitty way to write her out, IMO.
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Blue Bloods
> >>
> >> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
> >
> >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
> >Esposito's Jackie?...
>
> She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
> for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
> She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
> anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
> his coffee, roll credits.
IIRC, last we saw of Jackie, she had a rich boyfriend - a better
write-out would have been that she was marrying the rich boyfriend, and
was leaving the job for that reason.
Man, even a 2-year-old could have written that.
Ian J. Ball
Nov 10, 2012, 4:41:58 PM11/10/12
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In article <atropos-36BA03...@news-europe.giganews.com>,
I can at least partially answer that:
First, no said anything about a *paid* leave of absence - any leave of
absence beyond a short period of time will almost certainly be *unpaid*
leave.
As for why you would do it, you'd do it because getting a person back
after, say, a year, means you get a *fully-trained and experienced*
person back on the job. Now, it's true, that person might no longer have
a position when they come back, but for the bosses, if they have the
option, it might be preferable to bring an experienced person back from
a leave than to hire a noOb instead.
First, no said anything about a *paid* leave of absence - any leave of
absence beyond a short period of time will almost certainly be *unpaid*
leave.
As for why you would do it, you'd do it because getting a person back
after, say, a year, means you get a *fully-trained and experienced*
person back on the job. Now, it's true, that person might no longer have
a position when they come back, but for the bosses, if they have the
option, it might be preferable to bring an experienced person back from
a leave than to hire a noOb instead.
David Loewe, Jr.
Nov 10, 2012, 5:57:42 PM11/10/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:41:37, Robin Miller <compl...@invalid.com>
wrote:
Peter has a history of that. Remember when he didn't tell anyone that
he was hunting and killing shapeshifters for their second data storage
units?
--
"And so it was that later
As the Miller told his tale
That her face, at first just ghostly
Turned a whiter shade of pale"
Keith Reid & Gary Brooker
wrote:
he was hunting and killing shapeshifters for their second data storage
units?
--
"And so it was that later
As the Miller told his tale
That her face, at first just ghostly
Turned a whiter shade of pale"
Keith Reid & Gary Brooker
KoshN
Nov 10, 2012, 6:02:49 PM11/10/12
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On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> What did you watch?
Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
> What did you watch?
Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep. Only 1 more ep. for year. I really want to see what develops at the spice shop in the next ep.. Bye, bye erilar. You're missing a great show. Oh well....
KoshN
David Loewe, Jr.
Nov 10, 2012, 6:04:43 PM11/10/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 13:19:28, erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid>
wrote:
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <dave...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Body of Proof "Your Number's Up"
>
>What? It's back?
No. This ep was aired on December 6th of 2011. I have them stored up
on my DVR and am finally getting around to viewing them (having recently
finished off all I had recorded of NYC 22). Once I catch up with Dr.
Hunt, I will move on to either Patrick Jane and company or Dr. Who
(Series 6).
If I just name the show, it was either viewed live or is the most recent
new show aired. If I give the show *and* episode name (so it can be
looked up), it is probably from a while ago.
--
"Everything is politics."
- Thomas Mann
wrote:
> "David V. Loewe, Jr" <dave...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Body of Proof "Your Number's Up"
>
>What? It's back?
on my DVR and am finally getting around to viewing them (having recently
finished off all I had recorded of NYC 22). Once I catch up with Dr.
Hunt, I will move on to either Patrick Jane and company or Dr. Who
(Series 6).
If I just name the show, it was either viewed live or is the most recent
new show aired. If I give the show *and* episode name (so it can be
looked up), it is probably from a while ago.
--
"Everything is politics."
- Thomas Mann
Robin Miller
Nov 10, 2012, 6:16:58 PM11/10/12
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David Loewe, Jr. wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:41:37, Robin Miller <compl...@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What did you watch?
>
>>>> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
>>>> equal footing.
>
>>> Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
>
>> Because characters in TV shows always do that.
>
> Peter has a history of that. Remember when he didn't tell anyone that
> he was hunting and killing shapeshifters for their second data storage
> units?
>
That's true. Olivia doesn't keep as many secrets. Of course, when Walter
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:41:37, Robin Miller <compl...@invalid.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>>> On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What did you watch?
>
>>>> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
>>>> equal footing.
>
>>> Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
>
>> Because characters in TV shows always do that.
>
> Peter has a history of that. Remember when he didn't tell anyone that
> he was hunting and killing shapeshifters for their second data storage
> units?
>
"recruited" Peter, he had been living a life of secrecy and, it seemed,
crime. So I suppose hiding things has become part of his natural behavior.
--Robin
Michael Black
Nov 10, 2012, 6:44:58 PM11/10/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
> with Reid was silly.
Was that "Shaggy"? I think it was that episode where I thought someonw
> In article <k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
> with Reid was silly.
was familiar, I can't remember now if I thought of someone specific, but I
dismissed it, not quite a match.
That's one thing, they actually do (this and the L&Os) make an effort to
tamper with the looks of the guest stars so you have to look carefully.
> And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
> is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
> of this current season.
>
substantial, apart from how she isnt' making an impact on the audience.
Where's the woman who stood up to Kevin Costner in "Waterworld"? There's
none of that here.
> CSI:NY (OnDemand) - "Clue". A relatively silly episode, guest-starring
> Tara Summers (from "Ringer" and "Damages") and Jake Thomas (formerly of
> "Lizzie McGuire"! - he's now 22!!!). I initially enjoyed the subplot
> with the "prank" on Lindsay, but it didn't really go anywhere. Neither
> did the ballet opening (I figured this was going to be about the ballet
> company, but the case soon veered away from that...)
>
Michael
JRStern
Nov 10, 2012, 7:04:21 PM11/10/12
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:41:58 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> > >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
>> > >Esposito's Jackie?...
>> >
>> > She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
>> > for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
>> > She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
>> > anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
>> > his coffee, roll credits.
>>
>> I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
>> just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
>>
>> I don't know of any police department that just lets you pack up and
>> take off for however long you feel like and keeps paying you and keeps
>> your job open for whenever you decide to come back.
>
>I can at least partially answer that:
>
>First, no said anything about a *paid* leave of absence - any leave of
>absence beyond a short period of time will almost certainly be *unpaid*
>leave.
>
>As for why you would do it, you'd do it because getting a person back
>after, say, a year, means you get a *fully-trained and experienced*
>person back on the job. Now, it's true, that person might no longer have
>a position when they come back, but for the bosses, if they have the
>option, it might be preferable to bring an experienced person back from
>a leave than to hire a noOb instead.
All that, and union rules, too.
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> > >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
>> > >Esposito's Jackie?...
>> >
>> > She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
>> > for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
>> > She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
>> > anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
>> > his coffee, roll credits.
>>
>> I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
>> just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
>>
>> I don't know of any police department that just lets you pack up and
>> take off for however long you feel like and keeps paying you and keeps
>> your job open for whenever you decide to come back.
>
>I can at least partially answer that:
>
>First, no said anything about a *paid* leave of absence - any leave of
>absence beyond a short period of time will almost certainly be *unpaid*
>leave.
>
>As for why you would do it, you'd do it because getting a person back
>after, say, a year, means you get a *fully-trained and experienced*
>person back on the job. Now, it's true, that person might no longer have
>a position when they come back, but for the bosses, if they have the
>option, it might be preferable to bring an experienced person back from
>a leave than to hire a noOb instead.
Besides, script-wise this is better than being abducted by aliens ...
isn't it?
J.
BTR1701
Nov 10, 2012, 7:27:29 PM11/10/12
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-E45...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Okay, then, I'd like to meet the NYC detective that can just forego her
paycheck for what? Months? Has to be at least weeks, or what's the point
of a leave of absence? This is New York we're talking about. It ain't
cheap.
> As for why you would do it, you'd do it because getting a person back
> after, say, a year, means you get a *fully-trained and experienced*
> person back on the job. Now, it's true, that person might no longer have
> a position when they come back, but for the bosses, if they have the
> option, it might be preferable to bring an experienced person back from
> a leave than to hire a noOb instead.
If I hired a new guy, he's be fully trained and have a decent amount of
experience a year later and I wouldn't have been without a cop for that
amount of time.
<ijball-NO_SPAM-E45...@news.eternal-september.org>,
paycheck for what? Months? Has to be at least weeks, or what's the point
of a leave of absence? This is New York we're talking about. It ain't
cheap.
> As for why you would do it, you'd do it because getting a person back
> after, say, a year, means you get a *fully-trained and experienced*
> person back on the job. Now, it's true, that person might no longer have
> a position when they come back, but for the bosses, if they have the
> option, it might be preferable to bring an experienced person back from
> a leave than to hire a noOb instead.
experience a year later and I wouldn't have been without a cop for that
amount of time.
anim8rFSK
Nov 10, 2012, 8:41:16 PM11/10/12
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In article <9jbt98d5bkh7ac3lv...@4ax.com>,
One ep had the earth girl teaching two kids and about to lose her
business because there are no more kids to teach (I'm not sure where
these kids come from anyway) and there was some light 'walking around
carrying boards' but that was about it. Kiki wears shorts a lot though.
business because there are no more kids to teach (I'm not sure where
these kids come from anyway) and there was some light 'walking around
carrying boards' but that was about it. Kiki wears shorts a lot though.
anim8rFSK
Nov 10, 2012, 8:43:32 PM11/10/12
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> In article <3lgt98tg1eu1i9k2b...@4ax.com>,
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> > <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> > > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >What did you watch?
> > >>
> > >> CSI:NY
> > >>
> > >> Mac finally confides his problem.
> > >
> > >Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
> > >
> > >> Blue Bloods
> > >>
> > >> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
> > >
> > >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
> > >Esposito's Jackie?...
> >
> > She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
> > for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
> > She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
> > anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
> > his coffee, roll credits.
>
> I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
> just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
They used to exist. I remember the completely incompetent copywriter
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> > <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <7m4t9857pramcp63v...@4ax.com>,
> > > JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >What did you watch?
> > >>
> > >> CSI:NY
> > >>
> > >> Mac finally confides his problem.
> > >
> > >Yeah, forgot to mention that - that was good.
> > >
> > >> Blue Bloods
> > >>
> > >> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
> > >
> > >OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
> > >Esposito's Jackie?...
> >
> > She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
> > for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
> > She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
> > anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
> > his coffee, roll credits.
>
> I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
> just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
for a construction firm I used to work for took a multi-week or month
leave of absence to 'get his head together' and go chant someplace, and
there were people in the building campaigning to NOT let him come back!
>
> I don't know of any police department that just lets you pack up and
> take off for however long you feel like and keeps paying you and keeps
> your job open for whenever you decide to come back.
> I don't know of any police department that just lets you pack up and
> take off for however long you feel like and keeps paying you and keeps
> your job open for whenever you decide to come back.
Arthur Lipscomb
Nov 10, 2012, 8:44:26 PM11/10/12
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On 11/10/2012 3:02 PM, KoshN wrote:
> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
I'll watch Grimm later. With 3 shows I like to watch on at the same
> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
time (Grimm, Nikita and Fringe) something has to be relegated to the
secondary DVR or OnDemand and Grimm is that show. Plus Fringe has far
more of a must watch *now* factor to it than either Grimm or Nikita.
anim8rFSK
Nov 10, 2012, 8:45:14 PM11/10/12
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Obveeus
Nov 10, 2012, 9:54:49 PM11/10/12
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"KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
> HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
that have any mainstream interest.
>
> Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep.
Note to police officers: if you think someone is a cannibal, before you go
> Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep.
moving their refrigerator and looking underneath it for secret trap doors to
a basement burial ground, why not open that refrigerator and see what sort
of food is inside. Our heroes likely could have saved themselves a lot of
time.
KoshN
Nov 11, 2012, 12:10:15 AM11/11/12
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On Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:54:51 PM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> > Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep.
>
> Note to police officers: if you think someone is a cannibal, before you go
> moving their refrigerator and looking underneath it for secret trap doors to
> a basement burial ground, why not open that refrigerator and see what sort
> of food is inside. Our heroes likely could have saved themselves a lot of
> time.
True. Also check any simmering pots on the stove.
KoshN - watching Dracula (1931) on Svengoolie and can't help thinking about "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" which I actually like more.
> "KoshN" wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>
> >> What did you watch?
>
> > Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
> > HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
>
> GRIMM ratings are greater than FRINGE and NIKITA combined...but this
> newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
> that have any mainstream interest.
Grimm IS a fringe show.
>
> > On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>
> >> What did you watch?
>
> > Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
> > HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
>
> GRIMM ratings are greater than FRINGE and NIKITA combined...but this
> newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
> that have any mainstream interest.
> > Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep.
>
> Note to police officers: if you think someone is a cannibal, before you go
> moving their refrigerator and looking underneath it for secret trap doors to
> a basement burial ground, why not open that refrigerator and see what sort
> of food is inside. Our heroes likely could have saved themselves a lot of
> time.
KoshN - watching Dracula (1931) on Svengoolie and can't help thinking about "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" which I actually like more.
shawn
Nov 11, 2012, 12:11:40 AM11/11/12
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until I have watched all the shows that get discussed to avoid
spoilers. Since I also watch Fringe, but haven't gotten to it yet that
means I shouldn't even be here now. ;)
Fun stuff is going to happen next week as this all plays out (though
only for the viewers.)
William December Starr
Nov 11, 2012, 12:17:02 AM11/11/12
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In article <ijball-NO_SPAM-FE9...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> said:
> Madison County (Chiller) - A micro-horror flick that follows the
> usual tropes - inbred town sheltering a pig's head wearing psycho
> killer. There's a better flick to be made from this premise, but
> this wasn't it - especially maddening was the 'idiot plotting'
> from the characters: such as, when you've got a psycho killer
> down, stab (or axe) him MORE THAN ONCE, YOU **IDIOT**!! - in fact,
> you should both stab him in the heart *and* cut off his head for
> good measure. Ditto for killing any of his family - once you've
> figured out that they are the killer's family, and mean you only
> harm. Oy yoy yoy...
<http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnceIsNotEnough>
-- wds
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> said:
> Madison County (Chiller) - A micro-horror flick that follows the
> usual tropes - inbred town sheltering a pig's head wearing psycho
> killer. There's a better flick to be made from this premise, but
> this wasn't it - especially maddening was the 'idiot plotting'
> from the characters: such as, when you've got a psycho killer
> down, stab (or axe) him MORE THAN ONCE, YOU **IDIOT**!! - in fact,
> you should both stab him in the heart *and* cut off his head for
> good measure. Ditto for killing any of his family - once you've
> figured out that they are the killer's family, and mean you only
> harm. Oy yoy yoy...
<http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OnceIsNotEnough>
-- wds
anim8rFSK
Nov 11, 2012, 8:15:09 AM11/11/12
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In article <92ed9e0f-1507-44f2...@googlegroups.com>,
KoshN <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:54:51 PM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> > "KoshN" wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> >
> > >> What did you watch?
> >
> > > Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
> > > HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
> >
> > GRIMM ratings are greater than FRINGE and NIKITA combined...but this
> > newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
> > that have any mainstream interest.
>
> Grimm IS a fringe show.
But is Fringe a grim show?
> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:54:51 PM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> > "KoshN" wrote:
> >
> > > On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> >
> > >> What did you watch?
> >
> > > Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
> > > HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
> >
> > GRIMM ratings are greater than FRINGE and NIKITA combined...but this
> > newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
> > that have any mainstream interest.
>
> Grimm IS a fringe show.
>
> > > Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep.
> >
> > Note to police officers: if you think someone is a cannibal, before you go
> > moving their refrigerator and looking underneath it for secret trap doors
> > to
> > a basement burial ground, why not open that refrigerator and see what sort
> > of food is inside. Our heroes likely could have saved themselves a lot of
> > time.
>
> True. Also check any simmering pots on the stove.
>
> KoshN - watching Dracula (1931) on Svengoolie and can't help thinking about
> "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" which I actually like more.
I hate the unhappy ending. :(
> > > Grimm "To Protect and Serve Man" - Good ep.
> >
> > Note to police officers: if you think someone is a cannibal, before you go
> > moving their refrigerator and looking underneath it for secret trap doors
> > to
> > a basement burial ground, why not open that refrigerator and see what sort
> > of food is inside. Our heroes likely could have saved themselves a lot of
> > time.
>
> True. Also check any simmering pots on the stove.
>
> KoshN - watching Dracula (1931) on Svengoolie and can't help thinking about
> "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" which I actually like more.
Arthur Lipscomb
Nov 11, 2012, 10:49:06 AM11/11/12
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On 11/11/2012 5:15 AM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <92ed9e0f-1507-44f2...@googlegroups.com>,
> KoshN <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:54:51 PM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>>> "KoshN" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>>> Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
>>>> HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
>>>
>>> GRIMM ratings are greater than FRINGE and NIKITA combined...but this
>>> newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
>>> that have any mainstream interest.
>>
>> Grimm IS a fringe show.
>
> But is Fringe a grim show?
>>
This season, yes.
> In article <92ed9e0f-1507-44f2...@googlegroups.com>,
> KoshN <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 9:54:51 PM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>>> "KoshN" wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:25:14 AM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>>> Grimm, as apparently a lot of people did (ratings), just almost nobody
>>>> HERE. Grimm trounced Fringe in the ratings.
>>>
>>> GRIMM ratings are greater than FRINGE and NIKITA combined...but this
>>> newsgroup is known for having more support for fringe shows than for ones
>>> that have any mainstream interest.
>>
>> Grimm IS a fringe show.
>
> But is Fringe a grim show?
>>
Mason Barge
Nov 11, 2012, 12:43:54 PM11/11/12
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resolution. I know it looks Photoshopped with some sort of oil-paint
filter, but it isn't. Whedon just shot it to look like a Rembrandt or
Vermeer or early Manet or something.
I'm just smitten with it. In fact, that whole episode would be pretty far
up my "best episodes in the history of tv" list.
anim8rFSK
Nov 11, 2012, 3:23:04 PM11/11/12
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chicagofan
Nov 11, 2012, 11:22:42 PM11/11/12
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Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article<k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
> In article<k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
> Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
> with Reid was silly.
I enjoyed it. I liked seeing Reid's macho ego inflated a bit. :)
> Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
> with Reid was silly.
> And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
> is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
> of this current season.
make JT as drab and unattractive as they can. I rarely ever notice things like this unless they are extreme, and in her
case, it looks like she hasn't looked in a mirror in ten years.
> I only saw a bit of "Blue Bloods" - don't care for Danny's new temp.
> partner (who's conveniently relevant knowledge of voodoo was incredibly
> forced and tacky writing...), and the cases were lame this week anyway.
fit the role. It will take a few more episodes, to make up my mind, but she's not as bad as I expected. Wonder how
many episodes her trial will be?
bj
chicagofan
Nov 11, 2012, 11:30:11 PM11/11/12
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anim8rFSK wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but what does a copywriter do at a construction firm? Did they have their own advertising
department or something? Must have been a very large company.
bj
>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:06:15 -0700, "Ian J. Ball" wrote:
>>>> JRStern<JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>
>>>> JRStern<JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Blue Bloods
>>>>>
>>>>> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
>>>> OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
>>>> Esposito's Jackie?...
>>> She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
>>> for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
>>> She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
>>> anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
>>> his coffee, roll credits.
>> I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
>> just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
> They used to exist. I remember the completely incompetent copywriter
> for a construction firm I used to work for took a multi-week or month
> leave of absence to 'get his head together' and go chant someplace, and
> there were people in the building campaigning to NOT let him come back!
LOL!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> We get to see Jennifer Esposito say goodbye.
>>>> OK, I blew this episode off - can you tell me what happened vis a vis
>>>> Esposito's Jackie?...
>>> She's missing from the episode, then Danny goes back to the precinct
>>> for a cup of coffee, and there she is, cleaning out her desk. What?
>>> She'd been on vacation, and she decides she just can't do the job
>>> anymore, taking a leave of absence. Exit, stage left. Danny drinks
>>> his coffee, roll credits.
>> I want to know where these jobs are that we see on TV where people can
>> just take 'leaves of absence' and still have a job.
> They used to exist. I remember the completely incompetent copywriter
> for a construction firm I used to work for took a multi-week or month
> leave of absence to 'get his head together' and go chant someplace, and
> there were people in the building campaigning to NOT let him come back!
Pardon my ignorance, but what does a copywriter do at a construction firm? Did they have their own advertising
department or something? Must have been a very large company.
bj
anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 12:53:30 AM11/12/12
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In article <k7pu0k$aml$1...@dont-email.me>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:
Yeah, small art and advertising department that I worked for, and he ...
probably worked for public relations. He was as worthless a person as
you're likely to run into, and borderline illiterate; we completely
rewrote everything he submitted, and he'd read the final and inevitably
puff up and say "God I write good copy" even though if there was a word
in there that was in his original, it was pretty much by coincidence.
It was a good sized company. They built cities. :)
wrote:
probably worked for public relations. He was as worthless a person as
you're likely to run into, and borderline illiterate; we completely
rewrote everything he submitted, and he'd read the final and inevitably
puff up and say "God I write good copy" even though if there was a word
in there that was in his original, it was pretty much by coincidence.
It was a good sized company. They built cities. :)
BTR1701
Nov 12, 2012, 1:11:59 AM11/12/12
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In article <k7ptij$8p8$1...@dont-email.me>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:
> Ian J. Ball wrote:
> > In article<k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> What did you watch?
> > Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> > Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
> > with Reid was silly.
>
> I enjoyed it. I liked seeing Reid's macho ego inflated a bit. :)
>
>
> > And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
> > is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
> > of this current season.
>
> I've been wondering if prime time shows don't employ hairdressers?
> If CM has one, it appears to me they are *trying* to make JT as drab
> and unattractive as they can.
They must, because JJ's hair is always perfectly done up.
And yes, it's a studio show. There's a whole phalanx of make-up and hair
people.
wrote:
> Ian J. Ball wrote:
> > In article<k7lkjp$go5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> What did you watch?
> > Criminal Minds (recorded) - "The Apprenticeship". An OK episode with
> > Matthew Lillard apprenticing a budding serial killer. The softball stuff
> > with Reid was silly.
>
> I enjoyed it. I liked seeing Reid's macho ego inflated a bit. :)
>
>
> > And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
> > is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
> > of this current season.
>
> I've been wondering if prime time shows don't employ hairdressers?
> If CM has one, it appears to me they are *trying* to make JT as drab
> and unattractive as they can.
And yes, it's a studio show. There's a whole phalanx of make-up and hair
people.
KoshN
Nov 12, 2012, 1:25:53 AM11/12/12
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You hate the unhappy ending in "Dracula: Dead and Loving It" ? Whaaaat? Renfield drew a smiley face in Drac's ashes. ;-)
KoshN
KoshN
anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 7:50:57 AM11/12/12
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In article <9bbef3d4-b46c-47e9...@googlegroups.com>,
No no no, in the 1931 version. Pesky burglars break into Castle
Dracula, break up the lovebirds.
Dracula, break up the lovebirds.
Michael Black
Nov 12, 2012, 9:56:13 AM11/12/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, chicagofan wrote:
>> And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
>> is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
>> of this current season.
>
> I've been wondering if prime time shows don't employ hairdressers? If CM has
> one, it appears to me they are *trying* to make JT as drab and unattractive
> as they can. I rarely ever notice things like this unless they are extreme,
> and in her case, it looks like she hasn't looked in a mirror in ten years.
>
>
Every time I see her on the show, as I've mentioned already, I think first
>> And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
>> is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
>> of this current season.
>
> I've been wondering if prime time shows don't employ hairdressers? If CM has
> one, it appears to me they are *trying* to make JT as drab and unattractive
> as they can. I rarely ever notice things like this unless they are extreme,
> and in her case, it looks like she hasn't looked in a mirror in ten years.
>
>
of Marcia Gay Hardin, when she was on SVU as an undercover FBI agent (she
appeared more than once). I see the hair, I don't see the face. And I
can't say I've done that in the past. Jeanne Tripplehorn has a nice
face, but somehow it's lost on the show.
If you look at "Greg", he has taken a very deliberate facial expression
for the show, it's consistent, it seems to cover his emotions yet at the
same time giving an almost permanent snarl. But he is acting, while
Jeanne doesn't seem to be doing much on the show.
Michael
KoshN
Nov 12, 2012, 12:59:42 PM11/12/12
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Well, that's a twisted view of things, Van Helsing and Harker as burglars.
KoshN
KoshN
anim8rFSK
Nov 12, 2012, 2:31:30 PM11/12/12
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In article <0f876ac2-e3da-438d...@googlegroups.com>,
KoshN <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, that's a twisted view of things, Van Helsing and Harker as burglars.
In Dracula's castle?
> Well, that's a twisted view of things, Van Helsing and Harker as burglars.
KoshN
Nov 12, 2012, 2:41:20 PM11/12/12
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Yes. Twisted.
KoshN
KoshN
suzeeq
Nov 12, 2012, 10:11:01 PM11/12/12
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Obveeus wrote:
> I watched:
>
> BLOOD & CHROME: The first two 'episodes' of the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
> prequel:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT79x4qM4FE&list=PL549EB9DBB2FF8C24&index=1&feature=plcp
> I like the universe and I am interested in learning more about the history.
> I am sad that this is a TV movie rather than a TV series. The guy from
> SKINS (UK) plays a young, cocky Adama just assigned to a shinny new
> GALACTICA well, but the film of this series is quite annoying as the camera
> never seems to pan out enough to capture a whole character or a whole ship.
>
> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
> in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state. This
> was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with PTSD that
> has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white male. I just
> didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes make lousy
> detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the execution so the
> first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in prison's wife? Then
> they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on either of these two trips?
They had 36 hours, not 7.
> I watched:
>
> BLOOD & CHROME: The first two 'episodes' of the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
> prequel:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT79x4qM4FE&list=PL549EB9DBB2FF8C24&index=1&feature=plcp
> I like the universe and I am interested in learning more about the history.
> I am sad that this is a TV movie rather than a TV series. The guy from
> SKINS (UK) plays a young, cocky Adama just assigned to a shinny new
> GALACTICA well, but the film of this series is quite annoying as the camera
> never seems to pan out enough to capture a whole character or a whole ship.
>
> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
> in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state. This
> was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with PTSD that
> has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white male. I just
> didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes make lousy
> detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the execution so the
> first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in prison's wife? Then
> they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on either of these two trips?
They had 36 hours, not 7.
Obveeus
Nov 13, 2012, 8:39:05 AM11/13/12
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"suzeeq" <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
> Obveeus wrote:
>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped
>> out in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state.
>> This was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with
>> PTSD that has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white
>> male. I just didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes
>> make lousy detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the
>> execution so the first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in
>> prison's wife? Then they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on
>> either of these two trips?
>
> They had 36 hours, not 7.
They very clearly said 7 hours when Nick/Hank were looking for the bad guy's
>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped
>> out in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state.
>> This was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with
>> PTSD that has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white
>> male. I just didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes
>> make lousy detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the
>> execution so the first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in
>> prison's wife? Then they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on
>> either of these two trips?
>
> They had 36 hours, not 7.
current employer. Then, as if the lack of speedy effort on their part
wasn't glaring enough, there was a transition between the time of seeing the
employer (where they got the man's home address) and actually going to his
home. Whatever went on during that time transition (maybe Nick and Hank
went out for donuts?), the sun managed to go down.
suzeeq
Nov 13, 2012, 9:35:23 AM11/13/12
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Obveeus wrote:
> "suzeeq" <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>> Obveeus wrote:
>>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped
>>> out in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state.
>>> This was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with
>>> PTSD that has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white
>>> male. I just didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes
>>> make lousy detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the
>>> execution so the first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in
>>> prison's wife? Then they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on
>>> either of these two trips?
>> They had 36 hours, not 7.
>
> They very clearly said 7 hours when Nick/Hank were looking for the bad guy's
> current employer.
That was the 2nd day of their investigation. They started it the day
> "suzeeq" <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>> Obveeus wrote:
>>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped
>>> out in jail 10 years ago is innocent before he is executed by the state.
>>> This was a lame episode. First off, show me one military was vet with
>>> PTSD that has ever gone to execution for killing one able bodied white
>>> male. I just didn't find this premise believable. Worse yet, our heroes
>>> make lousy detectives. They know they have only 7 hours before the
>>> execution so the first thing they do is waste time visiting the guy in
>>> prison's wife? Then they visit the guy in prison? Why waste time on
>>> either of these two trips?
>> They had 36 hours, not 7.
>
> They very clearly said 7 hours when Nick/Hank were looking for the bad guy's
> current employer.
before with 36 hours which is when they first visited the wife, then
went to the prison which you said they were wasting time by doing so
with only 7 hours left.
Then, as if the lack of speedy effort on their part
> wasn't glaring enough, there was a transition between the time of seeing the
> employer (where they got the man's home address) and actually going to his
> home. Whatever went on during that time transition (maybe Nick and Hank
> went out for donuts?), the sun managed to go down.
was set for 9pm, it would be very dark by 6.
~consul
Nov 13, 2012, 3:22:57 PM11/13/12
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'tis on this 11/10/2012 8:25 AM, wrote Obveeus thus to say:
> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
((snip
> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
> his house because he has an outstanding warrant. It seems to me that a good
> lawyer would end up having 100% of the dead body evidence in his home thrown
> out because it was illegally obtained. Ah well, at least they finally went
> to his house as it was the FIRST place they should have gone. Our heroes
> are lucky that there was a second pile of evidence at the other property
> location.
What I don't understand, is what was under the store? I can't imagine why there would be anything there, given that a store would have dug way below the house depth for a basement just for the foundation and structures.
> that stage of the show. About the only thing in this episode that I liked
> was the bit with the Captain finally being proactive and working to solve
> his obsession...and, of course, it will be interesting to see how/if
> he(they) can get Monroe's help without the Captain having to reveal his
> Wesen-ness.
Is that part of the mystery? I figured that everyone who goes into the shop and asks for stuff like he was asking for, he knows he's a Wesen. I think that is why he made the slight joke about it possibly being an animal. I gather that if you can morph into another animal, you might also fall in love with that same natural species. :p
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Jim G.
Nov 13, 2012, 3:28:15 PM11/13/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11 -0500:
>
> What did you watch?
GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / To Protect and Serve Man
[Hank remembers an arrest he made earlier in his career when a man
claimed he committed murder in self-defense against monsters; Monroe
gets involved in an unexpected situation.]
We get toe jam soup, cannibal style! (Hopefully he added some basil.)
And we get Nick passing up an opportunity to talk with Juliette and
bring her up to date on what's going on and who he is. (TELL HER,
dipwad!) And we get more lame justification for yet another breaking and
entering by Nick and Hank. Of course, I'm willing to look the other way
when we're talking cannibals. And once they have their proof in the form
of some gooey bodies under the house, Hank is off to save the guy on
death row. The guy who's on death row at least in part because of him.
Oh, wait. Hank's suddenly more interested in catching the bad guy than
in saving the good guy, who is minutes away from his fatal chemical
cocktail. Go figure. But after another pretty good fight scene or two,
justice somehow ultimately prevails. The bad Wessen is dead; more dead
bodies are accounted for under a store whose builders apparently cut a
lot of corners; an innocent man is freed from prison (and not dead); and
the DA/future mayor (?) is indebted to Nick and Hank for saving her from
executing said innocent man. So they have that going for them.
Meanwhile, Monroe catches Juliette and Renard giving each other
tonsillectomies at the spice shop. Aaaawkward.
Grade: B+
FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
There
[A team member assumes a new role; Walter follows a lead.]
Raspberry donuts! After having Peter leave the reservation last week, we
see Walter doing it this time around. Because isn't that what teamwork
is all about? Sneaking around on your partners and not keeping them in
the loop with regard to what you're doing? And our "team" is somehow
able to wander about in public freely, up to and including using public
transportation because ... well, I guess it's because the authorities in
this dark, dictatorial, dystopian world of the future have never heard
of APBs or BOLOs. How is it that every little Hitler in town doesn't
have the image of our gang imprinted on his brain? How is it that Wanted
posters for our gang aren't on every street corner, or flashing on cool,
futuristic devices? It's as bad as when Stanton Parrish was wandering
around Central Park in broad daylight on ALPHAS. On the plus side, we
get some good bits with Walter worrying about losing his humanity and
with Olivia clearly showing that she suspects that something is going on
with Peter. And finally, there's that little thing about Peter being
able to kick the crap out of an Observer these days. Now *that's* a neat
little skill to have. All in all, though, I continue to get the sense
that the writers are more interested in using up all of the crazy plot
ideas that they've written on Post It notes over the years than they are
in much of anything else. So far, this season has been more or less a
series of standalone geo-caching episodes with some random "science"
tossed in.
Grade: B- (saved by the fight between Peter and an Observer)
HAVEN (SYFY, 9 PM) / Magic Hour
[Audrey and Duke return from Colorado; Audrey, Duke and Tommy tries to
find the woman with the resurrection touch.]
We have a dead Nathan at the start of this one, but never fear. In
Haven, resurrection is only a trouble away. And Audrey et al do a pretty
good job of using the assets that they have available to ensure that
Nathan ultimately ends up breathing again, as do both Good Sister and
Chip-on-Shoulder Bitch Sister. For his sake, I sure hope that Duke's
trouble is able to handle HIV and the like, since direct exposure to
someone's blood is generally not a good idea these days. And speaking of
Duke, he should probably share with Nathan and Audrey the fact that he
has learned that Tommy is/was troubled. Before anyone assumes that that
lame boat explosion took care of our little bolt gun killer, and all
that. Elsewhere, Vince and Dave show that they're a couple of pretty
tough old codgers and we end up thinking that they're gonna stop hiding
things from the others--until Vince turns around and hides yet another
thing from Audrey. Maybe it's just habit. But it's all good, because in
a nice nod to an early outing in season one, it's Taco Tuesday at the
Gull!
Grade: A-
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN
>
> What did you watch?
GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / To Protect and Serve Man
[Hank remembers an arrest he made earlier in his career when a man
claimed he committed murder in self-defense against monsters; Monroe
gets involved in an unexpected situation.]
We get toe jam soup, cannibal style! (Hopefully he added some basil.)
And we get Nick passing up an opportunity to talk with Juliette and
bring her up to date on what's going on and who he is. (TELL HER,
dipwad!) And we get more lame justification for yet another breaking and
entering by Nick and Hank. Of course, I'm willing to look the other way
when we're talking cannibals. And once they have their proof in the form
of some gooey bodies under the house, Hank is off to save the guy on
death row. The guy who's on death row at least in part because of him.
Oh, wait. Hank's suddenly more interested in catching the bad guy than
in saving the good guy, who is minutes away from his fatal chemical
cocktail. Go figure. But after another pretty good fight scene or two,
justice somehow ultimately prevails. The bad Wessen is dead; more dead
bodies are accounted for under a store whose builders apparently cut a
lot of corners; an innocent man is freed from prison (and not dead); and
the DA/future mayor (?) is indebted to Nick and Hank for saving her from
executing said innocent man. So they have that going for them.
Meanwhile, Monroe catches Juliette and Renard giving each other
tonsillectomies at the spice shop. Aaaawkward.
Grade: B+
FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
There
[A team member assumes a new role; Walter follows a lead.]
Raspberry donuts! After having Peter leave the reservation last week, we
see Walter doing it this time around. Because isn't that what teamwork
is all about? Sneaking around on your partners and not keeping them in
the loop with regard to what you're doing? And our "team" is somehow
able to wander about in public freely, up to and including using public
transportation because ... well, I guess it's because the authorities in
this dark, dictatorial, dystopian world of the future have never heard
of APBs or BOLOs. How is it that every little Hitler in town doesn't
have the image of our gang imprinted on his brain? How is it that Wanted
posters for our gang aren't on every street corner, or flashing on cool,
futuristic devices? It's as bad as when Stanton Parrish was wandering
around Central Park in broad daylight on ALPHAS. On the plus side, we
get some good bits with Walter worrying about losing his humanity and
with Olivia clearly showing that she suspects that something is going on
with Peter. And finally, there's that little thing about Peter being
able to kick the crap out of an Observer these days. Now *that's* a neat
little skill to have. All in all, though, I continue to get the sense
that the writers are more interested in using up all of the crazy plot
ideas that they've written on Post It notes over the years than they are
in much of anything else. So far, this season has been more or less a
series of standalone geo-caching episodes with some random "science"
tossed in.
Grade: B- (saved by the fight between Peter and an Observer)
HAVEN (SYFY, 9 PM) / Magic Hour
[Audrey and Duke return from Colorado; Audrey, Duke and Tommy tries to
find the woman with the resurrection touch.]
We have a dead Nathan at the start of this one, but never fear. In
Haven, resurrection is only a trouble away. And Audrey et al do a pretty
good job of using the assets that they have available to ensure that
Nathan ultimately ends up breathing again, as do both Good Sister and
Chip-on-Shoulder Bitch Sister. For his sake, I sure hope that Duke's
trouble is able to handle HIV and the like, since direct exposure to
someone's blood is generally not a good idea these days. And speaking of
Duke, he should probably share with Nathan and Audrey the fact that he
has learned that Tommy is/was troubled. Before anyone assumes that that
lame boat explosion took care of our little bolt gun killer, and all
that. Elsewhere, Vince and Dave show that they're a couple of pretty
tough old codgers and we end up thinking that they're gonna stop hiding
things from the others--until Vince turns around and hides yet another
thing from Audrey. Maybe it's just habit. But it's all good, because in
a nice nod to an early outing in season one, it's Taco Tuesday at the
Gull!
Grade: A-
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN
Jim G.
Nov 13, 2012, 3:28:15 PM11/13/12
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Robin Miller sent the following on Sat, 10 Nov 2012 12:41:37 -0500:
> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> > On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> >> equal footing.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
> >
>
>
> Because characters in TV shows always do that.
That is so painfully true. And it makes no sense in the vast majority of
cases, beyond keeping a given plotline from being a non-starter. No
sense whatsoever.
> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> > On 11/10/2012 7:40 AM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 08:25:11, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What did you watch?
> >>
> >>
> >> Fringe - Good to see someone finally take on the Observers on a somewhat
> >>
> >>> What did you watch?
> >>
> >>
> >> equal footing.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, but why is Peter hiding what he did?
> >
>
>
> Because characters in TV shows always do that.
That is so painfully true. And it makes no sense in the vast majority of
cases, beyond keeping a given plotline from being a non-starter. No
sense whatsoever.
Jim G.
Nov 13, 2012, 3:28:15 PM11/13/12
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Arthur Lipscomb sent the following on Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:49:06 -0800:
They're definitely embracing the "Dark is what all the cool cats are
doing" mentality.
doing" mentality.
chicagofan
Nov 13, 2012, 3:44:55 PM11/13/12
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>
> It was a good sized company. They built cities. :)
>
That definitely explains it. Thanks...
> It was a good sized company. They built cities. :)
>
bj
Obveeus
Nov 13, 2012, 3:47:29 PM11/13/12
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"~consul" <con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:
> 'tis on this 11/10/2012 8:25 AM, wrote Obveeus thus to say:
>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped
>> out
> ((snip
>> his house because he has an outstanding warrant. It seems to me that a
>> good
>> lawyer would end up having 100% of the dead body evidence in his home
>> thrown
>> out because it was illegally obtained. Ah well, at least they finally
>> went
>> to his house as it was the FIRST place they should have gone. Our heroes
>> are lucky that there was a second pile of evidence at the other property
>> location.
>
> What I don't understand, is what was under the store? I can't imagine why
> there would be anything there, given that a store would have dug way below
> the house
> depth for a basement just for the foundation and structures.
just a thick cement floor.
>> that stage of the show. About the only thing in this episode that I
>> liked
>> was the bit with the Captain finally being proactive and working to solve
>> his obsession...and, of course, it will be interesting to see how/if
>> he(they) can get Monroe's help without the Captain having to reveal his
>> Wesen-ness.
>
> Is that part of the mystery? I figured that everyone who goes into the
> shop and asks for stuff like he was asking for, he knows he's a Wesen. I
> think that is why he made the slight joke about it possibly being an
> animal. I gather that if you can morph into another animal, you might also
> fall in love with that same natural species. :p
not aware that Renard is Wesen and Renard is not aware that Monroe is
friends with Kick. Introducing Juliette into the mix blows that all wide
open.
chicagofan
Nov 13, 2012, 3:53:07 PM11/13/12
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Michael Black wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, chicagofan wrote:
>>> And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
>>> is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
>>> of this current season.
>>
>> I've been wondering if prime time shows don't employ hairdressers? If CM has one, it appears to me they are *trying*
>> to make JT as drab and unattractive as they can. I rarely ever notice things like this unless they are extreme, and
>> in her case, it looks like she hasn't looked in a mirror in ten years.
>>
>>
> Every time I see her on the show, as I've mentioned already, I think first of Marcia Gay Hardin, when she was on SVU
> as an undercover FBI agent (she appeared more than once). I see the hair, I don't see the face. And I can't say I've
> done that in the past. Jeanne Tripplehorn has a nice face, but somehow it's lost on the show.
I think that's why I noticed her hair so much, because she does have a nice face, that is really pulled down by that
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012, chicagofan wrote:
>>> And I stand by my continuing opinion that Jeanne Tripplehorn really
>>> is adding nothing here, and it wouldn't shock me if she's out at the end
>>> of this current season.
>>
>> I've been wondering if prime time shows don't employ hairdressers? If CM has one, it appears to me they are *trying*
>> to make JT as drab and unattractive as they can. I rarely ever notice things like this unless they are extreme, and
>> in her case, it looks like she hasn't looked in a mirror in ten years.
>>
>>
> Every time I see her on the show, as I've mentioned already, I think first of Marcia Gay Hardin, when she was on SVU
> as an undercover FBI agent (she appeared more than once). I see the hair, I don't see the face. And I can't say I've
> done that in the past. Jeanne Tripplehorn has a nice face, but somehow it's lost on the show.
hair [non] style.
>
> If you look at "Greg", he has taken a very deliberate facial expression for the show, it's consistent, it seems to
> cover his emotions yet at the same time giving an almost permanent snarl. But he is acting, while Jeanne doesn't seem
> to be doing much on the show.
>
> Michael
fits his character's personality. As for, JT, just because she isn't as attractive as Paget Brewster, they don't have
to ignore her completely. Hope they correct that soon, or send her packing. :)
bj
shawn
Nov 13, 2012, 5:43:48 PM11/13/12
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strange is going on with Renard after this discovery. Only way it
might happen if if our former Hexen beast somehow makes Monroe and
Juliet forget about Renard before this gets mentioned to Nick.
Obveeus
Nov 13, 2012, 5:48:10 PM11/13/12
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"shawn" <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:47:29 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>"~consul" <con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:
>>> Is that part of the mystery? I figured that everyone who goes into the
>>> shop and asks for stuff like he was asking for, he knows he's a Wesen. I
>>> think that is why he made the slight joke about it possibly being an
>>> animal. I gather that if you can morph into another animal, you might
>>> also
>>> fall in love with that same natural species. :p
>>
>>Sure, but Monroe has not recognized Renard as being Nick's boss and Nick
>>is
>>not aware that Renard is Wesen and Renard is not aware that Monroe is
>>friends with Kick. Introducing Juliette into the mix blows that all wide
>>open.
>>
> Yes, it is hard to see how Nick doesn't get clued in that something
> strange is going on with Renard after this discovery. Only way it
> might happen if if our former Hexen beast somehow makes Monroe and
> Juliet forget about Renard before this gets mentioned to Nick.
Speaking of our former Hexen beast...she showed up in the previews for next
>>> shop and asks for stuff like he was asking for, he knows he's a Wesen. I
>>> think that is why he made the slight joke about it possibly being an
>>> animal. I gather that if you can morph into another animal, you might
>>> also
>>> fall in love with that same natural species. :p
>>
>>Sure, but Monroe has not recognized Renard as being Nick's boss and Nick
>>is
>>not aware that Renard is Wesen and Renard is not aware that Monroe is
>>friends with Kick. Introducing Juliette into the mix blows that all wide
>>open.
>>
> Yes, it is hard to see how Nick doesn't get clued in that something
> strange is going on with Renard after this discovery. Only way it
> might happen if if our former Hexen beast somehow makes Monroe and
> Juliet forget about Renard before this gets mentioned to Nick.
week.
KoshN
Nov 13, 2012, 8:36:34 PM11/13/12
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Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
KoshN
KoshN
Obveeus
Nov 13, 2012, 8:44:31 PM11/13/12
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Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
faced with this truth. He did try to tell her, anyway...and now she has no
past memory of him. Given that, her mental state might just be a bit too
fragile for him to risk broaching the subject with her again right now.
faced with this truth. He did try to tell her, anyway...and now she has no
past memory of him. Given that, her mental state might just be a bit too
fragile for him to risk broaching the subject with her again right now.
suzeeq
Nov 13, 2012, 8:46:11 PM11/13/12
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~consul wrote:
> 'tis on this 11/10/2012 8:25 AM, wrote Obveeus thus to say:
>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
> ((snip
>> his house because he has an outstanding warrant. It seems to me that a good
>> lawyer would end up having 100% of the dead body evidence in his home thrown
>> out because it was illegally obtained. Ah well, at least they finally went
>> to his house as it was the FIRST place they should have gone. Our heroes
>> are lucky that there was a second pile of evidence at the other property
>> location.
>
> What I don't understand, is what was under the store? I can't imagine why there would be anything there, given that a store would have dug way below the house depth for a basement just for the foundation and structures.
They found another pit with a dozen or so skeletons. Yeah, I was
> 'tis on this 11/10/2012 8:25 AM, wrote Obveeus thus to say:
>> GRIMM: Our heroes are on the clock, trying to prove a man Hank helped out
> ((snip
>> his house because he has an outstanding warrant. It seems to me that a good
>> lawyer would end up having 100% of the dead body evidence in his home thrown
>> out because it was illegally obtained. Ah well, at least they finally went
>> to his house as it was the FIRST place they should have gone. Our heroes
>> are lucky that there was a second pile of evidence at the other property
>> location.
>
> What I don't understand, is what was under the store? I can't imagine why there would be anything there, given that a store would have dug way below the house depth for a basement just for the foundation and structures.
thinking that they may have had to dig the foundations deeper, but maybe
not. Portland probably has a fairly high water table and they may mound
up the dirt instead of dig too deep.
>> that stage of the show. About the only thing in this episode that I liked
>> was the bit with the Captain finally being proactive and working to solve
>> his obsession...and, of course, it will be interesting to see how/if
>> he(they) can get Monroe's help without the Captain having to reveal his
>> Wesen-ness.
>
> Is that part of the mystery? I figured that everyone who goes into the shop and asks for stuff like he was asking for, he knows he's a Wesen. I think that is why he made the slight joke about it possibly being an animal. I gather that if you can morph into another animal, you might also fall in love with that same natural species. :p
common herbs. Maybe some wiccans who want to try out something different.
Ubiquitous
Nov 13, 2012, 9:26:43 PM11/13/12
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jimg...@geemail.com.invalid wrote:
>FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
>There
>[A team member assumes a new role; Walter follows a lead.]
>
>Raspberry donuts! After having Peter leave the reservation last week, we
>see Walter doing it this time around. Because isn't that what teamwork
>is all about? Sneaking around on your partners and not keeping them in
>the loop with regard to what you're doing? And our "team" is somehow
>able to wander about in public freely, up to and including using public
>transportation because ... well, I guess it's because the authorities in
>this dark, dictatorial, dystopian world of the future have never heard
>of APBs or BOLOs. How is it that every little Hitler in town doesn't
>have the image of our gang imprinted on his brain? How is it that Wanted
>posters for our gang aren't on every street corner, or flashing on cool,
>futuristic devices?
I have been wondering that myself! At least The Observers seem to have
>FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
>There
>[A team member assumes a new role; Walter follows a lead.]
>
>Raspberry donuts! After having Peter leave the reservation last week, we
>see Walter doing it this time around. Because isn't that what teamwork
>is all about? Sneaking around on your partners and not keeping them in
>the loop with regard to what you're doing? And our "team" is somehow
>able to wander about in public freely, up to and including using public
>transportation because ... well, I guess it's because the authorities in
>this dark, dictatorial, dystopian world of the future have never heard
>of APBs or BOLOs. How is it that every little Hitler in town doesn't
>have the image of our gang imprinted on his brain? How is it that Wanted
>posters for our gang aren't on every street corner, or flashing on cool,
>futuristic devices?
neeb practicing their teleportation skills since the previous ep.
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the iceberg a
second time."
KoshN
Nov 13, 2012, 10:28:05 PM11/13/12
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Clearly, keeping it from her, isn't working. Leveling with her might cause her to have a memory breakthrough.
KoshN
KoshN
David Barnett
Nov 13, 2012, 11:55:05 PM11/13/12
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In article <ar35a8h257g1tusht...@4ax.com>,
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / To Protect and Serve Man
> [Hank remembers an arrest he made earlier in his career when a man
> claimed he committed murder in self-defense against monsters; Monroe
> gets involved in an unexpected situation.]
>
> We get toe jam soup, cannibal style! (Hopefully he added some basil.)
> And we get Nick passing up an opportunity to talk with Juliette and
> bring her up to date on what's going on and who he is. (TELL HER,
> dipwad!) And we get more lame justification for yet another breaking and
> entering by Nick and Hank. Of course, I'm willing to look the other way
> when we're talking cannibals. And once they have their proof in the form
> of some gooey bodies under the house, Hank is off to save the guy on
> death row. The guy who's on death row at least in part because of him.
> Oh, wait. Hank's suddenly more interested in catching the bad guy than
> in saving the good guy, who is minutes away from his fatal chemical
> cocktail. Go figure. But after another pretty good fight scene or two,
> justice somehow ultimately prevails. The bad Wessen is dead; more dead
> bodies are accounted for under a store whose builders apparently cut a
> lot of corners; an innocent man is freed from prison (and not dead); and
> the DA/future mayor (?) is indebted to Nick and Hank for saving her from
> executing said innocent man. So they have that going for them.
> Meanwhile, Monroe catches Juliette and Renard giving each other
> tonsillectomies at the spice shop. Aaaawkward.
>
> Grade: B+
That was sort of a cliff hanger.
And as one poster wrote, does Monroe know Renard is a
Wesen?
Just Grade B for me, as I seen too many shows where the
innocent man was saved from electrocution at the last
second, & I think one where he wasn't!
--
David Barnett
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / To Protect and Serve Man
> [Hank remembers an arrest he made earlier in his career when a man
> claimed he committed murder in self-defense against monsters; Monroe
> gets involved in an unexpected situation.]
>
> We get toe jam soup, cannibal style! (Hopefully he added some basil.)
> And we get Nick passing up an opportunity to talk with Juliette and
> bring her up to date on what's going on and who he is. (TELL HER,
> dipwad!) And we get more lame justification for yet another breaking and
> entering by Nick and Hank. Of course, I'm willing to look the other way
> when we're talking cannibals. And once they have their proof in the form
> of some gooey bodies under the house, Hank is off to save the guy on
> death row. The guy who's on death row at least in part because of him.
> Oh, wait. Hank's suddenly more interested in catching the bad guy than
> in saving the good guy, who is minutes away from his fatal chemical
> cocktail. Go figure. But after another pretty good fight scene or two,
> justice somehow ultimately prevails. The bad Wessen is dead; more dead
> bodies are accounted for under a store whose builders apparently cut a
> lot of corners; an innocent man is freed from prison (and not dead); and
> the DA/future mayor (?) is indebted to Nick and Hank for saving her from
> executing said innocent man. So they have that going for them.
> Meanwhile, Monroe catches Juliette and Renard giving each other
> tonsillectomies at the spice shop. Aaaawkward.
>
> Grade: B+
And as one poster wrote, does Monroe know Renard is a
Wesen?
Just Grade B for me, as I seen too many shows where the
innocent man was saved from electrocution at the last
second, & I think one where he wasn't!
--
David Barnett
David Barnett
Nov 13, 2012, 11:55:05 PM11/13/12
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> HAVEN (SYFY, 9 PM) / Magic Hour
> [Audrey and Duke return from Colorado; Audrey, Duke and Tommy tries to
> find the woman with the resurrection touch.]
>
> We have a dead Nathan at the start of this one, but never fear. In
> Haven, resurrection is only a trouble away. And Audrey et al do a pretty
> good job of using the assets that they have available to ensure that
> Nathan ultimately ends up breathing again, as do both Good Sister and
> Chip-on-Shoulder Bitch Sister. For his sake, I sure hope that Duke's
> trouble is able to handle HIV and the like, since direct exposure to
> someone's blood is generally not a good idea these days. And speaking of
> Duke, he should probably share with Nathan and Audrey the fact that he
> has learned that Tommy is/was troubled. Before anyone assumes that that
> lame boat explosion took care of our little bolt gun killer, and all
> that. Elsewhere, Vince and Dave show that they're a couple of pretty
> tough old codgers and we end up thinking that they're gonna stop hiding
> things from the others--until Vince turns around and hides yet another
> thing from Audrey. Maybe it's just habit. But it's all good, because in
> a nice nod to an early outing in season one, it's Taco Tuesday at the
> Gull!
>
> Grade: A-
Well I just knew Nathan was going to be revived somehow,
> [Audrey and Duke return from Colorado; Audrey, Duke and Tommy tries to
> find the woman with the resurrection touch.]
>
> We have a dead Nathan at the start of this one, but never fear. In
> Haven, resurrection is only a trouble away. And Audrey et al do a pretty
> good job of using the assets that they have available to ensure that
> Nathan ultimately ends up breathing again, as do both Good Sister and
> Chip-on-Shoulder Bitch Sister. For his sake, I sure hope that Duke's
> trouble is able to handle HIV and the like, since direct exposure to
> someone's blood is generally not a good idea these days. And speaking of
> Duke, he should probably share with Nathan and Audrey the fact that he
> has learned that Tommy is/was troubled. Before anyone assumes that that
> lame boat explosion took care of our little bolt gun killer, and all
> that. Elsewhere, Vince and Dave show that they're a couple of pretty
> tough old codgers and we end up thinking that they're gonna stop hiding
> things from the others--until Vince turns around and hides yet another
> thing from Audrey. Maybe it's just habit. But it's all good, because in
> a nice nod to an early outing in season one, it's Taco Tuesday at the
> Gull!
>
> Grade: A-
especially when there is a girl in the episode who can
revive people.
There are posts elsewhere, mainly re Claudia Black.
--
David Barnett
David Barnett
Nov 13, 2012, 11:55:05 PM11/13/12
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> FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
> There
> [A team member assumes a new role; Walter follows a lead.]
>
> Raspberry donuts! After having Peter leave the reservation last week, we
> see Walter doing it this time around. Because isn't that what teamwork
> is all about? Sneaking around on your partners and not keeping them in
> the loop with regard to what you're doing? And our "team" is somehow
> able to wander about in public freely, up to and including using public
> transportation because ... well, I guess it's because the authorities in
> this dark, dictatorial, dystopian world ofHitler in town doesn't
> There
> [A team member assumes a new role; Walter follows a lead.]
>
> Raspberry donuts! After having Peter leave the reservation last week, we
> see Walter doing it this time around. Because isn't that what teamwork
> is all about? Sneaking around on your partners and not keeping them in
> the loop with regard to what you're doing? And our "team" is somehow
> able to wander about in public freely, up to and including using public
> transportation because ... well, I guess it's because the authorities in
> have the image of our gang imprinted on his brain? How is it that Wanted
> posters for our gang aren't on every street corner, or flashing on cool,
> futuristic devices? It's as bad as when Stanton Parrish was wandering
> around Central Park in broad daylight on ALPHAS. On the plus side, we
> get some good bits with Walter worrying about losing his humanity and
> with Olivia clearly showing that she suspects that something is going on
> with Peter. And finally, there's that little thing about Peter being
> able to kick the crap out of an Observer these days. Now *that's* a neat
> little skill to have. All in all, though, I continue to get the sense
> that the writers are more interested in using up all of the crazy plot
> ideas that they've written on Post It notes over the years than they are
> in much of anything else. So far, this season has been more or less a
> series of standalone geo-caching episodes with some random "science"
> tossed in.
>
> Grade: B- (saved by the fight between Peter and an Observer)
I agree with the grade, but:
> posters for our gang aren't on every street corner, or flashing on cool,
> futuristic devices? It's as bad as when Stanton Parrish was wandering
> around Central Park in broad daylight on ALPHAS. On the plus side, we
> get some good bits with Walter worrying about losing his humanity and
> with Olivia clearly showing that she suspects that something is going on
> with Peter. And finally, there's that little thing about Peter being
> able to kick the crap out of an Observer these days. Now *that's* a neat
> little skill to have. All in all, though, I continue to get the sense
> that the writers are more interested in using up all of the crazy plot
> ideas that they've written on Post It notes over the years than they are
> in much of anything else. So far, this season has been more or less a
> series of standalone geo-caching episodes with some random "science"
> tossed in.
>
> Grade: B- (saved by the fight between Peter and an Observer)
I'm sick of the Observers.
I'm sick of the tapes - could not Walter have used discs
or memory sticks?
I'm happy about Peter's new power; the Observers were
appearing too invincible
I was happy see a few seconds of the daughter again, tho
not so much re the maudlin bits.
I will be glad when this show finishes.
If there is a happy ending, it will just be too late.
--
David Barnett
David Barnett
Nov 13, 2012, 11:55:05 PM11/13/12
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In article <k7ubl2$7p5$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com
says...
To me Monroe seemed very surprised at finding Renard &
Juliette kissing. Merely at Juliette being a customer?
--
David Barnett
says...
Juliette kissing. Merely at Juliette being a customer?
--
David Barnett
Arthur Lipscomb
Nov 14, 2012, 12:56:01 AM11/14/12
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On 11/13/2012 8:55 PM, David Barnett wrote:
> In article <ar35a8h257g1tusht...@4ax.com>,
> jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
>>
>> FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
>> There
> In article <ar35a8h257g1tusht...@4ax.com>,
> jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
>>
>> FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found
>> There
> I'm sick of the tapes - could not Walter have used discs
> or memory sticks?
He needed to use a technology that he could be sure wouldn't be obsolete
> or memory sticks?
in the future. ;-)
Obveeus
Nov 14, 2012, 8:43:10 AM11/14/12
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"David Barnett" <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> In article <k7ubl2$7p5$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com
> says...
>> Sure, but Monroe has not recognized Renard as being Nick's boss and Nick
>> is
>> not aware that Renard is Wesen and Renard is not aware that Monroe is
>> friends with Kick. Introducing Juliette into the mix blows that all wide
>> open.
>
> To me Monroe seemed very surprised at finding Renard &
> Juliette kissing. Merely at Juliette being a customer?
He was definitely surprised since until this time he (and Nick) were unaware
>> is
>> not aware that Renard is Wesen and Renard is not aware that Monroe is
>> friends with Kick. Introducing Juliette into the mix blows that all wide
>> open.
>
> To me Monroe seemed very surprised at finding Renard &
> Juliette kissing. Merely at Juliette being a customer?
that Juliette had been influenced by a second spell (the wake Sleeping
Beauty spell that Renard got from Adalind's mom and used upon Juliette)
Obveeus
Nov 14, 2012, 8:44:02 AM11/14/12
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"KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
GRIMM:
> Clearly, keeping it from her, isn't working. Leveling with her might
> cause her to have a memory breakthrough.
I think the more likely memory breakthrough would occur if Nick would simply
> cause her to have a memory breakthrough.
kiss Juliette.
Obveeus
Nov 14, 2012, 8:46:53 AM11/14/12
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"David Barnett" <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...
>
>> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / To Protect and Serve Man
> That was sort of a cliff hanger.
> And as one poster wrote, does Monroe know Renard is a
> Wesen?
Monroe probably 'knows' that Renard is a Wesen (who else goes into this shop
> And as one poster wrote, does Monroe know Renard is a
> Wesen?
and asks for spells/cures), but he does not know that Renard is Nick's boss
and he does not know what type of Wesen (Hexenbeast crossbred with
something).
suzeeq
Nov 14, 2012, 11:19:24 AM11/14/12
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David Barnett
Nov 15, 2012, 4:03:54 PM11/15/12
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In article <k7vbpg$ki2$1...@dont-email.me>,
art...@alum.calberkeley.org says...
Tapes are obsolete as far as my use of them is concerned.
--
David Barnett
art...@alum.calberkeley.org says...
--
David Barnett
David Johnston
Nov 15, 2012, 11:48:20 PM11/15/12
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David Barnett
Nov 16, 2012, 2:50:39 AM11/16/12
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In article <k84gi6$5gv$2...@dont-email.me>, davidjohnston29
@block.com says...
I see that now!
I'm slow on the uptake - apologies to the poster of the
joke.
--
David Barnett
@block.com says...
I'm slow on the uptake - apologies to the poster of the
joke.
--
David Barnett
KoshN
Nov 16, 2012, 5:55:24 AM11/16/12
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True. Certainly worth a try.
KoshN
KoshN
Jim G.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:42:45 PM11/16/12
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suzeeq sent the following on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:19:24 -0700:
Agreed. But whatever the source of Monroe's unease, it's all coming to a
head as the various, separate Portland worlds are all meeting up in that
little spice shop...
head as the various, separate Portland worlds are all meeting up in that
little spice shop...
Jim G.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:42:45 PM11/16/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
be thinking risk management and reduction.
> He did try to tell her, anyway...
Badly.
> and now she has no
> past memory of him. Given that, her mental state might just be a bit too
> fragile for him to risk broaching the subject with her again right now.
Then tell her *that* much, at least. Promise to fill her in on
everything just as soon as her present mental issues are resolved.
Instead, he once again handled it very badly.
>
> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
>
> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
> faced with this truth.
And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
>
> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
> faced with this truth.
doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
be thinking risk management and reduction.
> He did try to tell her, anyway...
> and now she has no
> past memory of him. Given that, her mental state might just be a bit too
> fragile for him to risk broaching the subject with her again right now.
everything just as soon as her present mental issues are resolved.
Instead, he once again handled it very badly.
Jim G.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:42:45 PM11/16/12
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David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:55:05 +1100:
There has been nothing that *we* have seen to indicate that Monroe knows
about Renard. But it would raise an interesting question: if Monroe were
to learn things that would lead him to believe that Renard is a reformed
Wessen like himself, would he tell Nick about it, or would he protect a
fellow reformer?
> Just Grade B for me, as I seen too many shows where the
> innocent man was saved from electrocution at the last
> second, & I think one where he wasn't!
Yeah, the "ticking clock" trope has been overused, but including it here
didn't really bother me too much. For me, the biggest question was why
it took this long for Hank to connect that past case with his recent
knowledge about the existence of a Wessen world. I would think that that
seven-year-old case would have been strange enough that it would have
been one of the first things that he would have thought of when he
learned about Nick. Instead, it took a newspaper story about the
impending execution to do it.
about Renard. But it would raise an interesting question: if Monroe were
to learn things that would lead him to believe that Renard is a reformed
Wessen like himself, would he tell Nick about it, or would he protect a
fellow reformer?
> Just Grade B for me, as I seen too many shows where the
> innocent man was saved from electrocution at the last
> second, & I think one where he wasn't!
didn't really bother me too much. For me, the biggest question was why
it took this long for Hank to connect that past case with his recent
knowledge about the existence of a Wessen world. I would think that that
seven-year-old case would have been strange enough that it would have
been one of the first things that he would have thought of when he
learned about Nick. Instead, it took a newspaper story about the
impending execution to do it.
Jim G.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:42:45 PM11/16/12
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David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:55:05 +1100:
executed.
> I'm sick of the tapes - could not Walter have used discs
> or memory sticks?
approach that VCRs are outdated and therefore more in keeping with the
idea of a dystopian society.
> I'm happy about Peter's new power; the Observers were
> appearing too invincible
> I was happy see a few seconds of the daughter again, tho
> not so much re the maudlin bits.
>
> I will be glad when this show finishes.
> If there is a happy ending, it will just be too late.
hardly the most entertaining 43 minutes of my week anymore.
Jim G.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:42:45 PM11/16/12
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Arthur Lipscomb sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:56:01 -0800:
But redundancy is good. When the issue is Saving the World, you really
want to have multiple copies of the blueprints in multiple formats.
want to have multiple copies of the blueprints in multiple formats.
Jim G.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:42:45 PM11/16/12
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David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:55:05 +1100:
off its stars. In that regard, this show is a long way from GAME OF
THRONES. :)
shawn
Nov 16, 2012, 4:20:51 PM11/16/12
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:42:45 -0600, Jim G.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
>>
>> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
>>
>> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
>> faced with this truth.
>
>And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
>doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
>break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
>seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
>then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
>be thinking risk management and reduction.
That's true in this world but it may be part of their world building
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
>>
>> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
>>
>> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
>> faced with this truth.
>
>And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
>doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
>break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
>seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
>then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
>be thinking risk management and reduction.
that people can't easily handle the idea of monsters being real.
>> He did try to tell her, anyway...
>
>Badly.
monsters are real. Telling them is only likley to convince them that
you have become unhinged.
Jim G.
Nov 19, 2012, 4:06:10 PM11/19/12
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shawn sent the following on Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:20:51 -0500:
> >> He did try to tell her, anyway...
> >
> >Badly.
>
> True, but without clear proof how do you convince someone that
> monsters are real.
Do you only tell someone the truth if you think that they'll believe
you, or do you tell them the truth for its own sake?
> Telling them is only likley to convince them that
> you have become unhinged.
True, but it's not relevant in the present case. Not only can Hank and
Monrosalee back up anything that Nick chooses to tell her, but
Monrosalee can also Wessen out to back up the claims. And then there's
the trailer. So the "she'll just think I'm crazy" argument is really a
nonstarter.
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:42:45 -0600, Jim G.
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
> >>
> >> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
> >>
> >> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
> >> faced with this truth.
> >
> >And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
> >doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
> >break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
> >seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
> >then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
> >be thinking risk management and reduction.
>
> That's true in this world but it may be part of their world building
> that people can't easily handle the idea of monsters being real.
Maybe Hank will start to lose it in the second half of the season. :)
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
> >>
> >> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
> >>
> >> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
> >> faced with this truth.
> >
> >And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
> >doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
> >break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
> >seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
> >then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
> >be thinking risk management and reduction.
>
> That's true in this world but it may be part of their world building
> that people can't easily handle the idea of monsters being real.
> >> He did try to tell her, anyway...
> >
> >Badly.
>
> True, but without clear proof how do you convince someone that
> monsters are real.
you, or do you tell them the truth for its own sake?
> Telling them is only likley to convince them that
> you have become unhinged.
Monrosalee back up anything that Nick chooses to tell her, but
Monrosalee can also Wessen out to back up the claims. And then there's
the trailer. So the "she'll just think I'm crazy" argument is really a
nonstarter.
shawn
Nov 19, 2012, 5:44:50 PM11/19/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:06:10 -0600, Jim G.
before this last revelation there was the issue of Juliette not
remembering Nick. I can see why he wouldn't want to get into the
Wessen-Grimm discussion until after the two of them are back on solid
ground. As it is there's a good chance that it could be a roadblock
that Juliette can't get around because she just can't remember Nick
and how she felt about him before the cat scratch fever.
>> Telling them is only likley to convince them that
>> you have become unhinged.
>
>True, but it's not relevant in the present case. Not only can Hank and
>Monrosalee back up anything that Nick chooses to tell her, but
>Monrosalee can also Wessen out to back up the claims. And then there's
>the trailer. So the "she'll just think I'm crazy" argument is really a
>nonstarter.
Sure.. But in her current state I can see why everyone might be a bit
hesitant to go there until she's back to normal with all of her
memories.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>shawn sent the following on Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:20:51 -0500:
>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:42:45 -0600, Jim G.
>> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
>> >>
>> >> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
>> >>
>> >> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
>> >> faced with this truth.
>> >
>> >And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
>> >doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
>> >break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
>> >seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
>> >then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
>> >be thinking risk management and reduction.
>>
>> That's true in this world but it may be part of their world building
>> that people can't easily handle the idea of monsters being real.
>
>Maybe Hank will start to lose it in the second half of the season. :)
>
>> >> He did try to tell her, anyway...
>> >
>> >Badly.
>>
>> True, but without clear proof how do you convince someone that
>> monsters are real.
>
>Do you only tell someone the truth if you think that they'll believe
>you, or do you tell them the truth for its own sake?
But the situation is a bit strange. Well, now it's much stranger but
>shawn sent the following on Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:20:51 -0500:
>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:42:45 -0600, Jim G.
>> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:31 -0500:
>> >>
>> >> "KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > Yeah, gotta wonder WHY Nick doesn't level with Juliette.
>> >>
>> >> Nick has been warned that standard humans usually lose their sanity when
>> >> faced with this truth.
>> >
>> >And yet the only person we've seen find out so far has been Hank, who
>> >doesn't seem to be melting down over it all. And really, give me a
>> >break. If I found out tomorrow that monsters or aliens live among us, I
>> >seriously doubt that I'd have a mental breakdown. If they're harmless,
>> >then I'd be thinking live and let live. If they're dangerous, then I'd
>> >be thinking risk management and reduction.
>>
>> That's true in this world but it may be part of their world building
>> that people can't easily handle the idea of monsters being real.
>
>Maybe Hank will start to lose it in the second half of the season. :)
>
>> >> He did try to tell her, anyway...
>> >
>> >Badly.
>>
>> True, but without clear proof how do you convince someone that
>> monsters are real.
>
>Do you only tell someone the truth if you think that they'll believe
>you, or do you tell them the truth for its own sake?
before this last revelation there was the issue of Juliette not
remembering Nick. I can see why he wouldn't want to get into the
Wessen-Grimm discussion until after the two of them are back on solid
ground. As it is there's a good chance that it could be a roadblock
that Juliette can't get around because she just can't remember Nick
and how she felt about him before the cat scratch fever.
>> Telling them is only likley to convince them that
>> you have become unhinged.
>
>True, but it's not relevant in the present case. Not only can Hank and
>Monrosalee back up anything that Nick chooses to tell her, but
>Monrosalee can also Wessen out to back up the claims. And then there's
>the trailer. So the "she'll just think I'm crazy" argument is really a
>nonstarter.
hesitant to go there until she's back to normal with all of her
memories.
Murdoc
Nov 20, 2012, 3:09:04 AM11/20/12
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she just thought he was crazy.
Murdoc
Nov 20, 2012, 3:11:08 AM11/20/12
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:42:45 -0600, Jim G. wrote:
> David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:55:05 +1100:
> David Barnett sent the following on Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:55:05 +1100:
>> Just Grade B for me, as I seen too many shows where the
>> innocent man was saved from electrocution at the last
>> second, & I think one where he wasn't!
>
> Yeah, the "ticking clock" trope has been overused, but including it here
> didn't really bother me too much. For me, the biggest question was why
> it took this long for Hank to connect that past case with his recent
> knowledge about the existence of a Wessen world. I would think that that
> seven-year-old case would have been strange enough that it would have
> been one of the first things that he would have thought of when he
> learned about Nick. Instead, it took a newspaper story about the
> impending execution to do it.
He's had hundreds of cases since that one. It's unlikely he'll think of any
>> innocent man was saved from electrocution at the last
>> second, & I think one where he wasn't!
>
> Yeah, the "ticking clock" trope has been overused, but including it here
> didn't really bother me too much. For me, the biggest question was why
> it took this long for Hank to connect that past case with his recent
> knowledge about the existence of a Wessen world. I would think that that
> seven-year-old case would have been strange enough that it would have
> been one of the first things that he would have thought of when he
> learned about Nick. Instead, it took a newspaper story about the
> impending execution to do it.
particular one of them unless something specifically calls it to his
attention, as the newspaper story did in this instance.
Jim G.
Nov 26, 2012, 4:05:53 PM11/26/12
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shawn sent the following on Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:44:50 -0500:
I'd say an argument could be made that it's better to tell her when
there *isn't* a strong emotional connection to Nick versus telling her
when they're in love.
> >> Telling them is only likley to convince them that
> >> you have become unhinged.
> >
> >True, but it's not relevant in the present case. Not only can Hank and
> >Monrosalee back up anything that Nick chooses to tell her, but
> >Monrosalee can also Wessen out to back up the claims. And then there's
> >the trailer. So the "she'll just think I'm crazy" argument is really a
> >nonstarter.
>
> Sure.. But in her current state I can see why everyone might be a bit
> hesitant to go there until she's back to normal with all of her
> memories.
The only reason I can see to wait is to ensure that Nick has the best
chance of reconnecting with her as a couple. But to leave her frustrated
and in the dark for such selfish reasons isn't the sort of thing that's
gonna make me like Nick more.
there *isn't* a strong emotional connection to Nick versus telling her
when they're in love.
> >> Telling them is only likley to convince them that
> >> you have become unhinged.
> >
> >True, but it's not relevant in the present case. Not only can Hank and
> >Monrosalee back up anything that Nick chooses to tell her, but
> >Monrosalee can also Wessen out to back up the claims. And then there's
> >the trailer. So the "she'll just think I'm crazy" argument is really a
> >nonstarter.
>
> Sure.. But in her current state I can see why everyone might be a bit
> hesitant to go there until she's back to normal with all of her
> memories.
chance of reconnecting with her as a couple. But to leave her frustrated
and in the dark for such selfish reasons isn't the sort of thing that's
gonna make me like Nick more.
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