St. Elsewhere in-jokes

[Bill van Heerden]

Below is an excerpt from my upcoming book on in-jokes in television. Can
anyone add to my entry on St. Elsewhere?

St. Elsewhere
On St. Elsewhere, almost all of the pages over the
loudspeaker were inside jokes. Friends of the writers were always
listening to see if they got paged each week. From a legal
standpoint, it's not a particularly bad idea. You've got to page
somebody and if you pick friends' names and someone tries to sue
because you are making fun of him or her, you can always say, "I
wasn't making fun of you. I was making fun of my friend here." Of
course, the friend is usually delighted to hear his or her name
on television.
Other pages were of fictional characters from other shows.
One example was a page for "Dr. Morton Chegley", who was played
by Lloyd Nolan on the series Julia.
Jack Riley, who played the troubled Mr. Carlin on The Bob
Newhart Show, appeared occasionally as Mr. Carlin, a patient in
the psychiatric ward. He was watching TV with John Doe #2, an
amnesiac. While channel surfing, they came upon The White Shadow
to which Mr. Carlin commented, "Hey, The White Shadow. The guy
who came up with this show sure had his act together." That guy
was Bruce Paltrow, St. Elsewhere's executive producer. Then they
switched to The Mary Tyler Moore Show. John Doe #2 began to
believe he was Mary Richards and that various staff members were
other MTM show characters. One of the guest stars in this St.
Elsewhere episode was Betty White, a regular on Mary Tyler Moore,
and when "Mary" saw Betty White's character, he exclaimed, "Sue
Ann! Sue Ann Niven, the Happy Homemaker! Its me, Mary!" The Mary
Tyler Moore Show, The Bob Newhart Show, The White Shadow and St.
Elsewhere were all MTM productions.
The name of an NBC executive was once given to a cadaver.
In an episode appropriately titled "Cheers" originally
broadcast March 27, 1985, Westphal, Craig and Auschlander stop by
the bar on Cheers for drinks. The "Cheers" sign is also visible
during one of Jack's strolls through Boston (see Cheers, above).
Warren Coolidge, one of the orderlies, was played by Byron
Stewart, who played the same character on The White Shadow (which
was produced by the same company). He even explained that he
played basketball at Boston College on the recommendation of his
coach, but he blew out his knee and that's why he was working at
St Eligius. In one episode, Timothy van Patten, who had played
Salami on The White Shadow, appeared on St. Elsewhere as another
character, and Coolidge spotted him and said, "Hey Salami... it's
me Coolidge!" Van Patten replied, "I don't know what you're
talking about... you got the wrong guy."
In the final episode, one of the doctors does an autopsy on
a Henry Blake, patient #4077, who died in when his plane crashed
into the hospital, referring to the character from M*A*S*H.
Also in the final episode, Coolidge runs around the hospital
looking for a one-armed patient. When he spots him, he says, "Dr.
Kimble's looking for you!" Eventually, we are told that Coolidge
captures the man on top of a water tower on the hospital roof.
All this is a reference to The Fugitive.
Two police officers were introduced as "Mike Stone" and
"Pete Malloy". Stone was a character on The Streets of San
Francisco and Malloy was one of the leads on Adam-12.
In a fall 1986 episode, after the rival medical series Kay
O'Brien debuted opposite St. Elsewhere, one physician mentioned
to another that "O'Brien" had gone to New York. The other doctor
slyly retorted, "I'll bet she won't last thirteen weeks." He was
right.

Bill

--
Bill van Heerden
bv...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
"Two guys walk into a bar which is really stupid 'cause you figure if the
first guy walked right into it, the second one would've seen it" Howie Mandel

[ANIM8Rfsk]

(( Other pages were of fictional characters from other shows.

One example was a page for "Dr. Morton Chegley", who was played

by Lloyd Nolan on the series Julia.))

They paged Tom Swift in one episode, and Professor (Doctor?) John Robinson
in another (Guy Williams character from Lost In Space)

[Stephen C. Gilardi]

In article <DwJw5v.KD8...@torfree.net> Bill van Heerden,
bv...@torfree.net writes:

> In the final episode, one of the doctors does an autopsy on
>a Henry Blake, patient #4077, who died in when his plane crashed
>into the hospital, referring to the character from M*A*S*H.

Actually, the pilot of the plane who crashed into the hospital was the
mysterious Dr. London (sp?) (Mark Craig's long time nemesis). He
survived the crash:

Nurse Panadrao - "Dr. London's still alive?"
Nurse Rosenthal - "Bandaid on his forehead, clean underwear --
completely new man."

The quote about Henry Blake is:

Dr. Novino - "Patient 4-0-7-7 Blake, Henry -- cause of death thought to
be injuries sustained in a helicopter crash."

> Also in the final episode, Coolidge runs around the hospital
>looking for a one-armed patient. When he spots him, he says, "Dr.
>Kimble's looking for you!" Eventually, we are told that Coolidge
>captures the man on top of a water tower on the hospital roof.
>All this is a reference to The Fugitive.

The patient's name is Mr. Mirkin. (A name not unknown in the world of
TV.)

Nurse Rosenthal - "Mr. Mirkin, Dr. Kimble's patient. He's a fugitive."

During Coolidge's chase, he yells out: "Ella, hold that 'vator" to a
woman in the hallway. (More of a cheap joke than an inside joke.)

Also he says "C'mon, move that gurney, Hal!" - I'm sure this is a
reference to the director of "Late Night with David Letterman" Hal
Gurnee.

(Unfortunately, I'm not sure how to spell "gurney" and can't find
anything like it in my dictionary. It's a table with wheels on it that
patients lie on while being rolled around the hospital...)

Some more from the final episode:

[1] The episode opens with Dr. Fiscus examining a well dressed older man
with white hair and glasses:

Dr. Fiscus - "So you see General Sarnoff, it's quite a network and optic
nerves need their rest. So do your eyes a favor and cut down on the
time you spend in front of the television."

General Sarnoff was a broadcasting pioneer, former head of RCA. I don't
know much more about him, although I have an impression that he was a
founder of CBS. (The network with the "Eye" logo).

[2] A reference to an R.E.M song:

Luther - "It's over, you're through at St. Eligius forever."
Dr. Fiscus - "Yeah, it's the end of the world as we know it and I feel
fine."

[3] A reference to a Rolling Stones song when the plane hits the
hospital:

Dr. Auschlander - "Jumpin' Jack, what was that flash?"

[4] A reference to the Andy Grifith Show:

A patient named "Mr. Pearson" is having his hair cut before starting
chemo-therapy. The barber's name is "Floyd":

Dr. Griffin - "See ya, Floyd"
Dr. Griffin - "He's been trimming heads here since nobody knows when.
Mr. Shaprio may bury us all."

(Floyd is dressed to look like "Floyd the barber" on the Andy Grifith
show.)

[5] Mr. Pearson asks Dr. Griffin about Alaska:

Mr. Pearson - "' ever been to Alaska? [...] a place where everyone pulls
together for survival."

I believe this is a reference to "Northern Exposure" some years before
"Northern Exposure" existed. St. Elsewhere and Northern Exposure were
both created by the team of Joshua Brand and John Falsey. I suspect
they had an idea for a show about Alaska around the end of St.
Elsewhere's run.

[6] Mr. Pearson's heart stops while four of the doctors are saying
goodbye to each other in the lounge. Over the intercom:

"Code Blue - Room 222 - Code Blue".

I doubt the room number was an accident. Also, it turns out to have
been the wrong room number - they have trouble finding Mr. Pearson.

[7] Near the end of the episode we meet one of the new first year
residents. His name is "Dr. Brandon Falsey". This is a play on "Brand
and Falsey".

Mr. Pearson - "Who are you?"
Dr. Falsey - "Brandon Falsey - Dr. Falsey, I arrived today."
Mr. Pearson - "I hate hospitals."
Dr. Falsey - "Yeah, this one's a dump--but I'll turn it around."

I'm sure there are more in the final episode, but those are the biggies
as I saw it.

[8] In another episode, Ellen Craig is talking to someone in her kitchen
when they hear a noise outside in the yard. Her companion asks "What
was that." Ellen replies that it's the gardener (I think she gave his
name) installing a "Plot Device" in the yard. Later, Mark Craig opens a
window and is sprayed by water from a lawn sprinkler.

--Steve

Stephen C. Gilardi
SQ Software

[Matt Hefferman]

Stephen C. Gilardi <sque...@concentric.net> writes:
:
: [2] A reference to an R.E.M song:

:
: Luther - "It's over, you're through at St. Eligius forever."
: Dr. Fiscus - "Yeah, it's the end of the world as we know it and I feel
: fine."
:
: [3] A reference to a Rolling Stones song when the plane hits the
: hospital:
:
: Dr. Auschlander - "Jumpin' Jack, what was that flash?"

There were lots of instances of song lyrics being incorporated into dialogue,
some of which were truly inside jokes. But these are among the ones which I
interpret as the character making a conscious play on words.

: [5] Mr. Pearson asks Dr. Griffin about Alaska:

:
: Mr. Pearson - "' ever been to Alaska? [...] a place where everyone pulls
: together for survival."
:
: I believe this is a reference to "Northern Exposure" some years before
: "Northern Exposure" existed. St. Elsewhere and Northern Exposure were
: both created by the team of Joshua Brand and John Falsey. I suspect
: they had an idea for a show about Alaska around the end of St.
: Elsewhere's run.

Maybe -- but I doubt it. Brand and Falsey were no longer involved with StE
by the end of the first season. For all the gory details, see Joseph Turow's
_Playing Doctor_.

: [6] Mr. Pearson's heart stops while four of the doctors are saying

: goodbye to each other in the lounge. Over the intercom:
:
: "Code Blue - Room 222 - Code Blue".
:
: I doubt the room number was an accident. Also, it turns out to have
: been the wrong room number - they have trouble finding Mr. Pearson.

Also, Eric Laneuville had a recurring role on "Room 222."

: [7] Near the end of the episode we meet one of the new first year

: residents. His name is "Dr. Brandon Falsey". This is a play on "Brand
: and Falsey".
:
: Mr. Pearson - "Who are you?"
: Dr. Falsey - "Brandon Falsey - Dr. Falsey, I arrived today."
: Mr. Pearson - "I hate hospitals."
: Dr. Falsey - "Yeah, this one's a dump--but I'll turn it around."

After reading Turow's book, it's pretty apparent that this exchange is
directed sarcastically at the show's creators, rather than in loving tribute.

--
Matt Hefferman <heff...@bbn.com>
BBN Corp., Middletown, RI
"Oh dear, he's signed his name again." - MPFC

[David Serchay]

ANIM8Rfsk (anim...@aol.com) wrote:
: (( Other pages were of fictional characters from other shows.

In the final episode, the new 1st year resedent is named Brandon Falsey
as in Brand and Falsey, the show's creators.

--

David Serchay
a013...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

[Daniel Kravetz]

There was the time William Daniels sang, "It's hot as hell in
Philadelphia," which was sung in the stage and screen musical "1776" in
which Daniels played John Adams.

###

[squi...@nntp.best.com]

In one episode they refer to a character who works as a fudge
packer--eeeuuwww, I don't even want to try to explain this one.

[Pamela Jaye Ashworth]

anim...@aol.com (ANIM8Rfsk) wrote:

>(( Other pages were of fictional characters from other shows.
>One example was a page for "Dr. Morton Chegley", who was played
>by Lloyd Nolan on the series Julia.))

i think the esteemed Dr. Chegley was also referred to this season on
Chicago Hope : )
I also remember, i thinkk it was Westphall, referring to "Paul
Lochner, my colleague at Boston General" (something like that) Lochner
was on Medical Center.
Boy i missed the Fugitive jokes and apparently a lot more!
Pam
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[Elizabeth P. Blazejewski]

Not only that, in the same episode, he reminisced that when he was in
medical school (U. Penn, in Philadelphia), he was "obnoxious and
disliked," a quote directly lifted from "1776."

[JC Woodard]

Hi,

Does anyone know of the existance of the Monday Night Football "theme"
- NOT the Hank Wililams song, the opeing 4 chord DA-DA-DA-DAH!!

Any help would be great, thanks a ton!!!

Debbi

[DAVE GUHLOW]

JC Woodard (j.c.w.@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Hi,

I think I can help a little, I believe the theme is called "Score". (as in
score a touchdown). I saw this in a newspaper column many years ago.
I've been trying to find it on a record myself, but no luck.

I remember a PBS series years ago called "Ten Who Dared" that used a
shorter version of the theme, but MNF has been using it for at least 20
years.

If anyone else knows more, I'd like to be alerted too. Thanks! DG

[John Speed]

I thought the theme was "NFL Special" by Bill Conti. I have yet to ever
see that song available anywhere. With all the crap that is
masquerading as music available, it is truly a shame that this theme is
not considered marketable. If anyone has this theme on CD, let me know,
and I'll make it worth your while.($$)
-John

[John Speed]

I thought that the music is "NFL Special" by Bill Conti. I have yet to
see it for sale anywhere. If you know where it is available, please let
me know.
-John

[David Serchay]

Elizabeth P. Blazejewski (el...@tucson.princeton.edu) wrote:

I just saw an epsiode where Craig visits with an old friend named Todd Sweeny
(though he was a doctor not a barber)

--

David Serchay
a013...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us

[pela...@gmail.com]

Season 5, episode 21, "Good Vibrations", the clip episode. Ebenezer Wright (Tim Thomerson) representing a Japanese HMO about to buy St. Eligius, is behaving in an extreme manner. Dr Auschlander (Norman Lloyd) says to him, "In all candor, Eb, you're making a cabaret out of this."
It's a musical theatre reference: CABARET has a score by composer John Kander and lyricist Fred Ebb.

[Michael OConnor]

I know this is a 20 year old thread, but Coolidge occasionally used to wear a T shirt from the high school (Carver High) he played basketball for in the White Shadow.

One one occasion Coolidge was in one of the rooms of the hospital and a TV was on and the opening credits of the White Shadow started and he said "I like that show."

Also, in the Betty White episode, at the end of the episode, Ed Flanders threw his hat in the air just like Mary Tyler Moore did at the end of the end of the opening credits of the Mary Tyler Moore show.

Also, on the hospital intercom, on several occasions there was a page to a (then) young lady named Gwyneth Paltrow, who was the daugter of the show's creator.

And I remember one time they did a page to a "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard" on the intercom.

And in the final episode they had a fat lady singing early in the episode and Howie Mandel cut her off and said, "We're not quite done yet" or something like that.

In the episode when the Craigs went to Philadelphia there were numerous references to the 1776 musical film that William Daniels appeared in.

St. Elsewhere had more inside jokes and hidden references than any show in TV history, bar none.

[Michael OConnor]

If you're still out there, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV-pYT4wldc

[anim8rfsk]

In article <b9092299-8e12-4090...@googlegroups.com>,

Michael OConnor <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote:

> I know this is a 20 year old thread, but Coolidge occasionally used to wear a
> T shirt from the high school (Carver High) he played basketball for in the
> White Shadow.
>
> One one occasion Coolidge was in one of the rooms of the hospital and a TV
> was on and the opening credits of the White Shadow started and he said "I
> like that show."
>
> Also, in the Betty White episode, at the end of the episode, Ed Flanders
> threw his hat in the air just like Mary Tyler Moore did at the end of the end
> of the opening credits of the Mary Tyler Moore show.
>
> Also, on the hospital intercom, on several occasions there was a page to a
> (then) young lady named Gwyneth Paltrow, who was the daugter of the show's
> creator.
>
> And I remember one time they did a page to a "Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr.
> Howard" on the intercom.

They also paged Professor John Robinson (from LOST IN SPACE) and Tom
Swift on one occasion.

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[EB]

"Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard" is a running joke on every medical TV show.


EB

[Bill Anderson]

The in-jokes flew so thick and fast in the final episode that I was
pretty sure many were going over my head. I remember being most puzzled
by the sight of an airplane that had flown into the side of a high-rise.
I wish I could remember more about the scene, but I do know it was so
bizarre that I decided something was going on there that I didn't
understand. I'm sure I have that final episode on VHS tape somewhere
around here -- if I weren't so lazy I'd dig it out and connect my last
old VHS player to the TV and have another look.

--
Bill Anderson

I am the Mighty Favog

[Bill Steele]

On 7/16/15 12:51 PM, Bill Anderson wrote:
> The in-jokes flew so thick and fast in the final episode that I was
> pretty sure many were going over my head. I remember being most puzzled
> by the sight of an airplane that had flown into the side of a high-rise.
> I wish I could remember more about the scene, but I do know it was so
> bizarre that I decided something was going on there that I didn't
> understand. I'm sure I have that final episode on VHS tape somewhere
> around here -- if I weren't so lazy I'd dig it out and connect my last
> old VHS player to the TV and have another look.

The airplane crash was one of several wild things in the episode that
seemed to emphasize the idea that it was a fantasy world, But I think I
read somewhere that it referenced some other show or movie. According to
IMDB, the pilot's name was Henry Blake, a character from M*A*S*H*. Did
an airplane ever crash into anything on that show?

[Obveeus]

Henry Blake's copter (or plane) crashed on that show causing his death.

[Barry Margolin]

In article <se-dnaBV6cLjYTrI...@earthlink.com>,

When the actor left the show, they had his character get sent home from
Korea. The episode was upbeat about him getting to leave the horrible
war zone, and he gets a happy send-off.

The last scene of the episode was Radar coming into the operating room,
to read a dispatch saying that his plane had been shot down over the
ocean, and all on board were lost.

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

[anim8rfsk]

In article <se-dnaBV6cLjYTrI...@earthlink.com>,
Bill Steele <ws...@cornel.edu> wrote:

Henry Blake's airplane crashed into the Sea of Japan.

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <mo8ved$due$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

It's possible the Godless Koreans shot him dead before the crash.

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[Obveeus]

I think the show writers would suggest that he was shot dead, then died
a second time as the plane went into the ocean. They wanted to be sure,
after all.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mo91fr$lhk$2...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>

Good point.

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[Stan Brown]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:46:21 -0400, Bill Steele wrote:
>
> The airplane crash was one of several wild things in the episode that
> seemed to emphasize the idea that it was a fantasy world, But I think I
> read somewhere that it referenced some other show or movie. According to
> IMDB, the pilot's name was Henry Blake, a character from M*A*S*H*. Did
> an airplane ever crash into anything on that show?

HIS airplane crashed, when he'd been relieved and posted back to the
States.

We didn't see it on screen; someone (probably Radar) came into a
meeting and told the other doctors about it.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

[suzeeq]

Stan Brown wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:46:21 -0400, Bill Steele wrote:
>> The airplane crash was one of several wild things in the episode that
>> seemed to emphasize the idea that it was a fantasy world, But I think I
>> read somewhere that it referenced some other show or movie. According to
>> IMDB, the pilot's name was Henry Blake, a character from M*A*S*H*. Did
>> an airplane ever crash into anything on that show?
>
> HIS airplane crashed, when he'd been relieved and posted back to the
> States.
>
> We didn't see it on screen; someone (probably Radar) came into a
> meeting and told the other doctors about it.
>

Radar came into the operating room and read from the communique he'd
received.

[Bill Anderson]

Ah. After all these years, an explanation. Thanks.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mo9mdv$9mb$2...@news.albasani.net>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>
wrote:

Radar: I have a message.
[voice breaking]
Radar: Lt. Col. Henry Blake's plane was shot down over the Sea of
Japan... it spun in. There were no survivors.
[Margaret begins to cry softly... the surgeons continue their work in
absolute silence]

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[Adam H. Kerman]

It was actually one of the best sendoffs for a character ever done,
unlike Wayne Rogers.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <moa1ri$gkl$5...@news.albasani.net>,

Of course they did it that way because they didn't *like* Stevenson. :\

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[Adam H. Kerman]

Really? I always thought it was Wayne Rogers they hated, that Alan Alda
bribed the writers to give Hawkeye all of Trapper's best lines, so Trapper
had no distinct personality at all.

I still remind everyone that Hawkeye was changed at the start, that he
was every bit as married as the rest of them were and cheating on his
wife at home, in both the movie and the novel.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mob36e$95v$3...@news.albasani.net>,

From what I understand everybody everywhere hated Stevenson. I remember
he was one of the two guests Laurie Hibbard hated most on Fox' BREAKFAST
TIME and the other one did something really vile to her, on camera. I
saw the latter but never the former so I don't know what the problem
with Stevenson was.

Rogers says that he quit because he had to sit there all day with seldom
anything to do, and realized he could make more money spending those
hours in his finance businesses.

>
> I still remind everyone that Hawkeye was changed at the start, that he
> was every bit as married as the rest of them were and cheating on his
> wife at home, in both the movie and the novel.

Yep

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[Adam H. Kerman]

Wow. I didn't know. Who the fuck would give him a talk show?

He was really funny on M*A*S*H, so I thought they liked him enough to
showcase him.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mob5f8$egp$2...@news.albasani.net>,

Same people that gave Chevy Chase a talk show?

The other most hated guest, just to put it in perspective, was the
little creep from Douche Bigalo. The set-up on BREAKFAST TIME was that
it was all filmed in a sprawling Manhattan apartment, and interviews
were done in various placed like the kitchen. Laurie goes in, and
there's a tub with a curtain drawn around it, and she pulls back the
curtain, and creep is in there, naked, pleasuring himself. And she
thought Stevenson was *worse*

>
> He was really funny on M*A*S*H, so I thought they liked him enough to
> showcase him.

Yeah, somebody liked him well enough to give him Hello Larry.

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[A Friend]

In article <anim8rfsk-5BDE4...@news.easynews.com>,

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> From what I understand everybody everywhere hated Stevenson. I remember
> he was one of the two guests Laurie Hibbard hated most on Fox' BREAKFAST
> TIME and the other one did something really vile to her, on camera. I
> saw the latter but never the former so I don't know what the problem
> with Stevenson was.

I saw it. Stevenson made an appearance with Loretta Swit to promote a
syndicated special about "home safety"; it was actually an infomercial
for one or the other of the hardware chains, I think. Tom Bergeron did
the interview. Swit was fine, but Stevenson was angrily impatient with
the questions and, especially, with Bob the Puppet, who was behind him
on the apartment's interview couch. It was pretty clear that the
advance people had supplied bad information because Tom, referring to
his notes, observed that this special was the first time that Stevenson
and Swit had appeared together since M*A*S*H. This was incorrect, and
it set Stevenson off. Swit tried to intervene and began talking about
the special, but Stevenson couldn't be contained. Ton ended the
interview abruptly, when it seemed that Stevenson was about to rip Bob
the Puppet off Al Rosenberg's arm.

They went to break, and afterward Tom talked to the camera for a bit,
while Stevenson could be observed grimacing and punching the wall in
the background. IIRC Stevenson died a few months after this
appearance.

I don't know who the other guest was that Laurie didn't like, unless it
was Mr. Blobby. BTW I was interviewed by Tom and Laurie once. They
were great. I stayed in touch with Laurie for a while after that,
almost up to the wedding.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I have no recollection. Looking it up, the character was introduced
on Diff'rent Strokes.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I don't know how I never heard of Breakfast Time before the two of you
started discuss it. Wow. It's nothing like those breakfast talk shows
originating in Chicago!

[anim8rfsk]

In article <170720151239588792%no...@noway.com>,

Wow

>
> I don't know who the other guest was that Laurie didn't like, unless it

Douche Bigalo

> was Mr. Blobby. BTW I was interviewed by Tom and Laurie once. They
> were great. I stayed in touch with Laurie for a while after that,
> almost up to the wedding.

Excellent! I loved that show. It was a sad day when it began with Tom
addressing the audience that Laurie had left the apartment.

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <mobbk2$q67$1...@news.albasani.net>,

I remember it 'cause Donna Wilkes (Angel) was one of the daughters,
although she bailed on it.

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <mobbv1$q67$2...@news.albasani.net>,

"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

No, it was great. Apartment, puppets, road warriors, you never knew
what was gonna happen, but it was still well structured anarchy.

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[Adam H. Kerman]

National network, or just syndicated in selected cities?

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mobebl$u77$1...@news.albasani.net>,

It was on FOX.

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[Adam H. Kerman]

Ok. I'm barely aware that Fox offers daytime television, I guess.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mobi0d$6ko$2...@news.albasani.net>,

This was back in the 20th Century. I have no idea if they do now.

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[tomcervo]

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 3:12:05 PM UTC-4, Barry Margolin wrote:

> When the actor left the show, they had his character get sent home from
> Korea. The episode was upbeat about him getting to leave the horrible
> war zone, and he gets a happy send-off.
>
> The last scene of the episode was Radar coming into the operating room,
> to read a dispatch saying that his plane had been shot down over the
> ocean, and all on board were lost.

Copied from the ending of "Mr. Roberts". Beloved military authority figure gets his wished-for transfer, a raucous going-away party, dies off-screen, has it announced by the ensemble doofus.
I watched it on MASH in disbelief--because back then "Mr. Roberts" was still running on local stations once every few months. Couldn't believe they'd do so blatant a copy, and then again when no one called them on it.

[tomcervo]

There was a bit on SCTV lampshading that. Joe Flaherty as Alda, on set, complaining to a writer/producer that someone else was getting good lines instead of him, the STAR. Then he sees the camera and turns instantly in the genial nice guy all know and love.

[Michael Black]

Maybe they were distracted by Ensign Pulver, who maybe had the better
role.

Michael

[tomcervo]

William Daniels ordering the floral arrangements to maid Elke Summmer:
"Put roses on the table and tulips on the organ."

Earlier he was interviewing her for the job, and told her to say "Moose and squirrel."

[Adam H. Kerman]

Hahahahaha

That's great!

[anim8rfsk]

In article <478cbbf6-eaf3-4e89...@googlegroups.com>,

hee hee

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[A Friend]

In article <anim8rfsk-51188...@news.easynews.com>,

Breakfast Time was on FX and debuted at FX's launch in 1994. It lasted
a little over a year. A few months after its demise, it resurfaced as
Fox After Breakfast on Fox broadcast stations. FAB was a ratings dog
and lasted a year, during which Bob, Laurie and Tom (in that order)
left or were let go. It was then retooled as The Vicki Lawrence Show,
but that lasted only five weeks, ending in late September 1997.

Somehow, Claire Carter and John Burke's FX show, Personal FX, survived
and thrived throughout, but was finally cancelled in late 1998 after
more than four years and a thousand episodes. FX let the lease on the
apartment expire at the end of that year; as I recall, the contents
were auctioned off a few days prior to that.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <170720151753199681%no...@noway.com>,

thanks

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[Adam H. Kerman]

A Friend wrote:
>anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

That's very interesting; thank you. I don't recall FX doing daytime
programming either.

[suzeeq]

Well they do, but it's shock talk shows, court shows and not much else.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I thought all that crap was syndicated. No?

[suzeeq]

Right, it is. Nothing original.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <moc6kq$3nn$1...@news.albasani.net>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>
wrote:

But is it network or just whatever your local fills in with?

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[suzeeq]

Not sure. They're syndicated but whether it's local or national, I don't
know.

[Adam H. Kerman]

I meant first-run syndicated daytime tv, not Fox network daytime tv.

[suzeeq]

Somehow I think you lost me.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mockc3$kid$2...@news.albasani.net>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>

Some navigator YOU are!

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[Adam H. Kerman]

You aren't familiar with syndication?

[shawn]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2015 21:48:40 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

Perhaps suzeeq just excels at navigating areas she already knows?

[anim8rfsk]

In article <dj4kqal28ufhjn8ci...@4ax.com>,

Like the bottom of the Grand Canyon.

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[Michael Black]

"Don't be a mysoginist".

Michael

[suzeeq]

I'm better with roads than words.

[suzeeq]

Yes. But I don't quite understand what you mean. First run syndication
would be new materieal right, while 'second run' is repeats of old tv
shows or something? Fox daytime has both.

[suzeeq]

No necessarily. I can look at a map and have a 'picture' of it in my
brain so have a general idea of how to get from here to there.

It's the way Adam worded that sentence that I'm confused about.

[suzeeq]

You went off and left me at the last rest stop before we even got there.
I wasn't there to keep your mind on the road while you were playing
poker with the dog.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <moe5fu$r9t$4...@news.albasani.net>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>
wrote:

But if I hadn't listened to you about turning left at Albuquerque, none
of this would have ever happened.

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <super70s-999571...@reader.albasani.net>,
super70s <supe...@super70s.invalid> wrote:

> I even liked the Hello Larry show and that was just savaged by critics,
> it became something of a running joke to beat up on it.

Yeah, it wasn't great or anything, but it never deserved the scorn it
got from people that had undoubtably never watched it.

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[suzeeq]

Uh huh....

[Michael Black]

That's always an important point, look over the map before you leave, so
you have an idea before you get to the point. If you have to figure out
where you are once you're already lost, it's too late.

Michael

[Michael Black]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2015, super70s wrote:

> I even liked the Hello Larry show and that was just savaged by critics,
> it became something of a running joke to beat up on it.
>

I think the title threw people off.

I always think it's a spinoff from "Three's COmpany", since "Larry" in
that show was Jack's pal.

Michael

[suzeeq]

Unless you have a copy of the map with you and can refer to the details
to get you out of being lost.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mof04i$buj$1...@news.albasani.net>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>
wrote:

We did, but you kept it back at the last rest stop.

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[Adam H. Kerman]

I don't know that there is a Fox daytime; first run programs offered by
the network aren't syndication. For all I know, they let the station
managers program their stations during daytime without a daytime network.

[A Friend]

In article <mof4g9$gpt$2...@news.albasani.net>, Adam H. Kerman

There's no Fox daytime now. Fox After Breakfast was on the network;
Fox took the hour for itself and cut the stations in for a fraction of
the money they'd been making with syndicated programming during that
hour. The situation got even worse when the ratings for Fox After
Breakfast, which were never good, fell to around a quarter of what the
stations had been getting with judge shows and so forth. Some Fox
affiliates wound up moving Fox After Breakfast, which was live at 9
a.m. ET, to 2 a.m. the following morning.

I thought I'd read recently that Fox was going to try programing the
morning again.

[suzeeq]

Shoulda kept track of DT in the scout car ahead of you.

[suzeeq]

I think that's how they do it then.

[suzeeq]

CW used to have a morning show a few years ago, the Buzz or something I
think it was called. Probably a similar situation to Fox. Or maybe only
the affliates in larger cities carried it.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <mof6tb$8qo$1...@news.albasani.net>, suzeeq <su...@imbris.com>
wrote:

Did. Followed the sound of him yelling:

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[suzeeq]

Nope, he knew what to avoid - that was you guys. I heard it all the way
back at the rest stop.

[Adam H. Kerman]

suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:

No, it didn't. The only remaining CW Daytime show is The Bill Cunningham Show.
I don't remember the name either, but it would have been syndicated.

[Michael Black]

If I"m going somewhere, and that amounts to a different part of the city,
not some major road trip, I always take a look at the map before setting
out. It's a chance to familiarize myself with where I'm going. I may
have to look later to refresh my memory of it, but I find it really helps
to look before leaving.

Michael

[suzeeq]

Exactly.

I studied the google map of most of Seattle, though I was somewhat
familiar with where everything was from previous visits. Then I printed
out a portion of the city I wanted to visit but hadn't been before, and
wrote some basic directions to get to and from there to another area.
That helped a lot.

[Dimensional Traveler]

It was really simple. Turn right with the road when you see a really,
really big ditch in front of you. Even the wet dog could have told you
that if you hadn't been playing strip poker with it.

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[Dimensional Traveler]

No you didn't 'cause I've never yelled that!

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[anim8rfsk]

In article <55ac0350$0$36530$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

Cue DT yelling:

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