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KATHY DUPREE

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Dec 9, 1993, 4:52:00 PM12/9/93
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In article <1993Dec9...@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes...
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>Daisy Moses is Granny.
>Jed Clampett is Granny's son in law.
>Ellie Mae Clampett is Jed's daughter and Daisy's grand-daughter.
>Pearl Bodine is always referred to by Jed and Ellie as "Cousin Pearl".
>Jethro Bodine, Pearl's son, Jed's nephew and Ellie's cousin, is Daisy's
>grandson.
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>Several questions:
>
>1. How can Jethro be the son of Jed's cousin and Jed's nephew at the same
>time?
>
Jethro is Pearl's son who is Jed's cousin even though Jethro calls Jed
"Uncle Jed" they are really second cousins. Jed and Pearl are first
cousins.

>2. What relationship is Granny to Pearl?
>
Granny and Pearl are not related. Both Pearl and Granny are related to
Jed directly or indirectly. Pearl is Jed's cousin--direct relation,
Jed is Granny son-in-law--indirect relation.

pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca

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Dec 9, 1993, 2:35:16 PM12/9/93
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My wife and I need a mystery solved concerning the variouse relations in
the Clampett clan of Beverly Hillbillies fame.

Daisy Moses is Granny.
Jed Clampett is Granny's son in law.
Ellie Mae Clampett is Jed's daughter and Daisy's grand-daughter.
Pearl Bodine is always referred to by Jed and Ellie as "Cousin Pearl".
Jethro Bodine, Pearl's son, Jed's nephew and Ellie's cousin, is Daisy's
grandson.

Several questions:

1. How can Jethro be the son of Jed's cousin and Jed's nephew at the same
time?

2. What relationship is Granny to Pearl?

Are there answers to these or do they fall into the catch all tv category:
Why can't Gilligan get off that damned island, anyway?

Stig (in Newfoundland)

Ronald Oakes

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Dec 13, 1993, 10:09:54 AM12/13/93
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In article <2ebhp4$f...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Dawn Owens-Nicholson <da...@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> wrote:

>pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>>Daisy Moses is Granny.
>>Jed Clampett is Granny's son in law.
>>Ellie Mae Clampett is Jed's daughter and Daisy's grand-daughter.
>>Pearl Bodine is always referred to by Jed and Ellie as "Cousin Pearl".
>>Jethro Bodine, Pearl's son, Jed's nephew and Ellie's cousin, is Daisy's
>>grandson.
>
>>1. How can Jethro be the son of Jed's cousin and Jed's nephew at the same
>>time?
>
>Well it is not so clearcut. I have never heard Pearl called anything
>other than "cousin" in relation to Jed, BUT I have heard Pearl call
>Ellie her niece and Ellie call Pearl her aunt. This was a very
>early episode where the clan was staying in a New York City apartment
>and Granny got shut up in a hide-a-bed. I think that there may
>have been a script inconsistency early on.

Here is my thoughts on how this could happen (without resorting to incest,
which may be possible anyway)

Jed and Pearl are cousins.

Jed married a daughter of Daisy Moses and ?? Bodien (why Granny kept her
maiden name, I don't know. Probably family pride)

Pearl married a son of Dasiy Moses and ?? Bodien, and took her husbands
name.

Jed and his wife had a daughter named Ellie May.

Pearl had a son named Jethro.

This makes Jethro Jed's nephew, Jethro and Ellie May cousins and still
allows for Jed and Pearl to be cousins. The only question about this is
why Granny kept her name.

Ronald B. Oakes

(Strange the things the net causes us to ponder when driving)

Dawn Owens-Nicholson

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Dec 10, 1993, 11:19:48 PM12/10/93
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pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>Daisy Moses is Granny.
>Jed Clampett is Granny's son in law.
>Ellie Mae Clampett is Jed's daughter and Daisy's grand-daughter.
>Pearl Bodine is always referred to by Jed and Ellie as "Cousin Pearl".
>Jethro Bodine, Pearl's son, Jed's nephew and Ellie's cousin, is Daisy's
>grandson.

>1. How can Jethro be the son of Jed's cousin and Jed's nephew at the same
>time?

Well it is not so clearcut. I have never heard Pearl called anything


other than "cousin" in relation to Jed, BUT I have heard Pearl call
Ellie her niece and Ellie call Pearl her aunt. This was a very
early episode where the clan was staying in a New York City apartment
and Granny got shut up in a hide-a-bed. I think that there may
have been a script inconsistency early on.

-Dawn


pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca

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Dec 17, 1993, 8:03:37 AM12/17/93
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The upshot of what you're saying is that Granny is not Jethro's grandmother
either.

KATHY DUPREE

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Dec 17, 1993, 11:58:00 AM12/17/93
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In article <1993Dec17...@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes...

Unless, Pearl's husband was Granny's son. I don't think they ever
said whether Pearl was related to Granny. But being a native of the South,
I have noticed on more than one occasion one doesn't have to be a blood
relative to be acknowledged as a relative. :-)

pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca

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Dec 23, 1993, 2:02:25 PM12/23/93
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If Pearl's husband was Granny's son, wouldn't that make him a Moses and, in
turn Pearl's married name would be Pearl Moses -- but that can't be becasue
we know her married name was Bodine (hence her son's name Jethro Bodine).
Pearl always called Granny by the name Granny. So did Jethro, so I'm
assuming that Daisy was related.

All this seems silly. I started the thread in the hope that some source
actually could put an explanation to the conumdrum. I guess it's possible
that there is no explanation and that continuity was not (put on your
best Ozarks drawl) "a Filmways presentation".

David W. Tamkin

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Dec 23, 1993, 10:03:42 PM12/23/93
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pmo...@kean.ucs.mun.ca wrote in <1993Dec23...@kean.ucs.mun.ca>:

| If Pearl's husband was Granny's son, wouldn't that make him a Moses and, in
| turn Pearl's married name would be Pearl Moses -- but that can't be becasue
| we know her married name was Bodine (hence her son's name Jethro Bodine).
| Pearl always called Granny by the name Granny. So did Jethro, so I'm
| assuming that Daisy was related.

That's why the person who suggested that Pearl might be Granny's daughter-
in-law said that that would mean Granny was going by her maiden name, which
would be odd for that region in that era, extremely odd.

No one has raised the possibility that Granny was married twice, first to a
Mr. Bodine, by whom she had a son and perhaps a daughter, and later to a Mr.
Moses, who fathered her daughter if Mr. Bodine did not. She would then be a
woman named Mrs. Moses whose son's children are named Bodine.

Another possibility is that in their tradition people address first cousins
once removed as "aunt" or "uncle" for one's parents' cousins and as "niece"
or "nephew" for one's cousins' children, and that there is no relationship
(other than having married cousins) between Pearl's late husband and Jed's
late wife. In fact, since spouses of cousins are called "cousins", we don't
know for sure that Jed and Pearl are the blood-related cousins. So why
would Pearl and Jethro call Daisy "Granny"? Because back in Bug Tussle,
*everyone* called her "Granny".

David W. Tamkin P. O. Box 3284 Skokie, Illinois 60076-6284
dat...@mcs.com CompuServe: 73720,1570 MCI Mail: 426-1818

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