How do straight actresses stand lesbian sex scenes?
Ronald O. Christian
<gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
>now since most of these actresses are straight,
...as far as you know...
>how can they stand to do
>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>french kiss another guy even if paid.
Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
you say? Honestly now.
>is same-sex sex inherently less
>repulsive for women?
I've heard that, but don't have any hard data. I think it's a money
thang.
Ron
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How do straight actors stand kissing opposite sex actors that repulse them?
How do actors that hate kids cozy up to them?
How do actors pretend to care about things they don't care about?
How do actors strip off their clothes and expose their imperfect naked
bodies to the world for criticism and abuse?
Gee.
Must be acting.
If you can't stand the heat. . .
Deb
Hank
"Freeway Sniper" <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote in message
news:Pine.BSF.4.05.102032...@mtolympus.ari.net...
> there
> are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> french kiss another guy even if paid.
Then perhaps they would not be well suited for acting in roles which might
include kissing. Similarly, there are some people who are not well suited
to be CPAs, dentists, or rodeo clowns. Big ol' world.
It is really a basic transaction. An actor reads the script, and considers
if the money / prestige / experience is worth auditioning for, or taking,
the part. The folks you see up on the big screen doing perhaps
less-than-pleasant things are the people who haven't self-selected out.
David Johnston
<gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
>movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
>sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
>reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
>chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
>
>now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>french kiss another guy even if paid.
How much? For a hundred grand I'm betting you could find plenty of
slobbering straight guys who would french kiss another guy...or at
least pretend to. You don't actually have to slip the tongue, you
know.
Mike Rhino
news:Pine.BSF.4.05.102032...@mtolympus.ari.net...
>
> What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
> movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
> sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
> reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
> chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
>
> now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
> something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
> are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> repulsive for women?
I heard that when Arnold Schwartzenegger was about 20, he posed for a gay
magazine. I don't know if he did any kissing or not.
One actress quit a series, because she was doing gay scenes every week and
didn't like it. The writers decided to make her character gay.
Ruth gb
Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote:
>
>
> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
> you say? Honestly now.
Can I play this and can I choose Jeff Goldblum?
--
SmkMirrors
>slobbering straight guys who would french kiss another guy...or at
>least pretend to. You don't actually have to slip the tongue, you
>know.
>
When though people always say they will do XYZ for money, they usually chicken
out. I doubt that there would be as many people to take you up on the offer as
you might think.
As for the original question:
There are many actors who won't do a part that they feel is demeaning, or won't
do nude work, or wear fur, or work that goes to far against thier basic
ideals...
Deciding NOT to do something even in the face of money and the pressure of a
vocal minority is always more impressive than simply going along with group
think.
For the actresses that choose to do lesbian sex scenes that is fine, but for
the actresses that choose NOT to do lesbian sex scenes; bravo.
CJ
www.kinkyceline.com
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SmkMirrors said...
When though people always say they will do XYZ for money, they usually
chicken
out. I doubt that there would be as many people to take you up on the
offer as
you might think.
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Geoff
newsgroup
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
>>movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
>>sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
>>reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
>>chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
Granting your unsupported assertion that lesbianism is
experiencing some odd surge of media popularity....
>>
>>now since most of these actresses are straight,
Oh? And how come you by that information?
>> how can they stand to do
>>something like this,
It's called acting.
>> even when they're being paid handsomely for it?
That's called professional acting.
>> there
>>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>>french kiss another guy even if paid.
No. Just the homophobic ones.
>> is same-sex sex inherently less
>>repulsive for women?
Inherently? It's quite obvious that women have less of a
homophobic nature than men, since they don't fear their own
sex the way men do, but your insinuation that everyone finds
homosexual sex repulsive says more about your own viewpoint
and very little about the reality of human sexual behavior,
so it's basically a stupid troll question.
I give this bait three points: one for brevity, one for
weakness of assertion, and one for trenchant reminder of the
state of American sexual education.
Regards,
Geoff "But that's out of, like, 50."
"Words, words. They're all we have to go on."
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Ronald O. Christian
Jeff Goldblum is of the inappropriate sex?
jere7my tho?rpe
Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote:
> Jeff Goldblum is of the inappropriate sex?
Yes, regardless of the sex(es) you prefer. He got the bugeyes.
----j7y
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William December Starr
smkmi...@aol.com (SmkMirrors) said:
> As for the original question: There are many actors who won't do a
> part that they feel is demeaning, or won't do nude work, or wear
> fur, or work that goes to far against thier basic ideals...
>
> Deciding NOT to do something even in the face of money and the
> pressure of a vocal minority is always more impressive than simply
> going along with group think.
Is there really a "vocal minority" out there telling heterosexual
actresses that they have to play love scenes with other actresses?
-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
William December Starr
"Mike Rhino" <news...@alexanderpics.com> said:
> One actress quit a series, because she was doing gay scenes every
> week and didn't like it. The writers decided to make her character
> gay.
Who was this?
Terwilliger
Freeway Sniper <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> forked over the
usual $0.00023 cents while saying:
>-x-no-archive: yes
>-
>-What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
<sneep>
Counter question: How do gay actors and actresses stand
kissing and having sex with the opposite gender?
*eewwwwww*
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Nadia
And for a similiar amount you'd find a lot of gay guys willing to kiss
a girl.
Actually it's interesting I saw people bitch when Anne Heche was with
Harrison Ford in "Six Days, Seven Nights" because she was "gay" (at
the time) and what would she know about kissing a man? Yet no-one
bitched about straight actors playing gay (like Jude Law in "The
Taleneted Mr. Ripley" or "Wilde" for example). Talk about homophobic
double standards.
Nadia
rande...@aol.com
Only if he's in full "Fly" make-up.
-Rich
John Harkness
>Actually it's interesting I saw people bitch when Anne Heche was with
>Harrison Ford in "Six Days, Seven Nights" because she was "gay" (at
>the time) and what would she know about kissing a man? Yet no-one
>bitched about straight actors playing gay (like Jude Law in "The
>Taleneted Mr. Ripley" or "Wilde" for example). Talk about homophobic
>double standards.
>
>Nadia
Just out of curiosity, on what grounds did you deduce that Dickie
Greenleaf in The Talented Mr. Ripley is a "gay" character?
John Harkness
RogerM
> Talk about homophobic
> double standards.
>
> Nadia
For a change, let's not.
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>
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
> movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
> sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
> reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
> chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
>
> now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
> something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
> are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> repulsive for women?
It's called acting.
Tea Monkey
"Ronald O. Christian" wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:37:47 -0500, Freeway Sniper
> <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
> >now since most of these actresses are straight,
>
> ...as far as you know...
>
> >how can they stand to do
> >something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
> >are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> >french kiss another guy even if paid.
>
> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
> you say? Honestly now.
>
> >is same-sex sex inherently less
> >repulsive for women?
>
> I've heard that, but don't have any hard data. I think it's a money
> thang.
>
> Hard data? OMG ;-)
Nadia
There were sublte hints which I can't recall off the top of my head. I
think actually his character was being more bisexual, that he'd get
with anyone he felt like - a proper little hedonist. It's a while
since I saw it but I remember noticing them at the time (besides the
fact that Dickie has gay friends, there were other things too).
Nadia
Barry Margolin
<Pine.BSF.4.05.102032...@mtolympus.ari.net>,
Freeway Sniper <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
> now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
> something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it?
I think it's along the same lines as kissing a person of the opposite
sex who you don't find attractive: it's called acting. The profession
is all about pretending to be a different kind of person than you
actually are.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Genuity, Inc., Woburn, MA
John Harkness
Dickie has three friends -- Freddie, Marge and Tom, one of whom is gay
and obsessed with him, and when Tom starts trying to get up close and
personal Dickie rejects him. Unless you think the Italian singer in
the club is gay, of course. (Freddie comes off a bit swishy, but he's
not gay.)
Dickie's having sex with two characters in the film, both of them
women.
Heck, if Dickie were gay or bi-sexual, there'd be no problem -- he's
amoral enough to cheat on Marge with Tom...
John Harkness
Lynn
>
> Counter question: How do gay actors and actresses stand
> kissing and having sex with the opposite gender?
> *eewwwwww*
Not only that, but why is it so much more distasteful than having to do a
love scene with a) and actor she can't stand, or b) one she doesn't even
know? It's not like they're off in a dark corner having a hot time in the
old town tonight - it's doing a scene, probably under bright lights and in
front of 60 people.
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Ronald O. Christian
<jer...@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <udsi9uoipsq15b828...@4ax.com>,
> Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote:
>
>> Jeff Goldblum is of the inappropriate sex?
>
> Yes, regardless of the sex(es) you prefer. He got the bugeyes.
Well yeah... casting him in The Fly was genius.
Ronald O. Christian
<tea.m...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>"Ronald O. Christian" wrote:
>> >is same-sex sex inherently less
>> >repulsive for women?
>>
>> I've heard that, but don't have any hard data. I think it's a money
>> thang.
>>
> Hard data? OMG ;-)
Geeze, you just can't talk to some people. :-)
Geoff
<n...@spam.com> deposited this nugget in this here newsgroup
>>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 05:36:10 GMT, gbur...@erinet.com (Geoff) wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>>>> is same-sex sex inherently less
>>>>>repulsive for women?
>>>
>>>Inherently? It's quite obvious that women have less of a
>>>homophobic nature than men, since they don't fear their own
>>>sex the way men do, but your insinuation that everyone finds
>>>homosexual sex repulsive says more about your own viewpoint
>>>and very little about the reality of human sexual behavior,
>>>so it's basically a stupid troll question.
>>
Sure, no problem.
>>So if someone does not like the idea of homosexual sex personally they
>>are antigay or bigoted ?
Nope. I didn't say that, did I? What I did point out was
that the poster's question was biased, in that it implied
that ALL "same-sex sex:" (and please note that is not
limited to male homosexuality) was "inherently...repulsive."
In short, it was a loaded question that revealed a rather
blatant homophobia on the poster's part.
>>Look,gays can do what they like with my blessing, but sucking a dick
>>or taking it up the arse is not my idea of showing solidarity.
I suppose that would depend on whether you're gay or not,
now wouldn't it? And what does assfucking or cocksucking
have to do with lesbianism, which was the original focus of
this particular troll's post?
Regards,
Geoff "Now, muffdiving...that's a sacrament!"
Doug
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:37:47 -0500, Freeway Sniper
>
> >are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> >french kiss another guy even if paid.
>
> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
> you say? Honestly now.
>
> >repulsive for women?
>
> thang.
I believe there's a Masters and Johnson study on this. I know I read
about it somewhere, but I don't recall the book offhand.
To sum up:
Male sexuality tends to be polarized, either straight or gay, while
female sexuality tends to be less rigorously delineated. While most
women have sexual preferences, they are more willing to experiment
with homosexuality than men are and find it less offensive or
threatening when a woman is a lesbian.
It's one of the reasons we don't find it as unusual for women to be
touchy-feely with each other than men. It's a cultural bias that
stems from biology.
Doug
Dawn Taylor
> >What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
> >movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
> >sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
> >reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
> >chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
> >
> >now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
> >something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it?
It's called "acting."
Dawn
Dawn Taylor
per lees wrote:
> i can only think of a couple reasons why the ladies do it.
>
> money.
>
> more money.
I like this quote from Susan Sarandon on how the director of "The Hunger" thought
her character should down a couple of glasses of wine before the love scene with
Catherine Deneuve:
"Doing a love scene, whether it’s with a man or a woman, in front of a room full of
people, for three or four days is probably the most unnatural thing you could do.
Forget about the gender of the person you’re with. But I definitely was the one who
said, you know, I shouldn’t be drunk. What’s the point? I mean, if you’re gonna
choose to go to bed with a woman, and it’s Catherine Deneuve, you don’t need to be
drunk."
Dawn
Alun Jones
>This girl doesn't chicken out......
Bull. I quote from the site, at <web-site-stripped-out>/celinfo.htm:
"What stuff will you not do? I am not into lesbian stuff "
Obviously this was just another spammish, off-topic, porn come-on. And here's
me hoping that it was a web site where someone was discussing this topic.
Yeah, alright, I know. Even I'm not _that_ naive. :-)
Alun.
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geoff <gbur...@erinet.com> wrote:
|On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 21:58:34 +1100, Sam Richards
|<n...@spam.com> deposited this nugget in this here newsgroup
|>>On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 05:36:10 GMT, gbur...@erinet.com (Geoff) wrote:
|>>
|>><snip>
|>>>>> is same-sex sex inherently less
|>>>>>repulsive for women?
|>>>
|>>>Inherently? It's quite obvious that women have less of a
|>>>homophobic nature than men, since they don't fear their own
|>>>sex the way men do, but your insinuation that everyone finds
|>>>homosexual sex repulsive says more about your own viewpoint
|>>>and very little about the reality of human sexual behavior,
|>>>so it's basically a stupid troll question.
|>>
|>>Give me a freaking break......
|
|Sure, no problem.
|
|>>So if someone does not like the idea of homosexual sex personally they
|>>are antigay or bigoted ?
|
|Nope. I didn't say that, did I?
well, yes, you pretty much did say that. more precisely, here's what
you said:
|>> there are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff
|>>who would not french kiss another guy even if paid.
|
|No. Just the homophobic ones.
so are you saying now that you realize that what you wrote was silly
and that you want to retract it?
Ruth gb
Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:41:09 GMT, Ruth gb <rut...@there.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <gmhi9ukubu5hurgup...@4ax.com>,
> > Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
> >> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
> >> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
> >> you say? Honestly now.
> >
> >Can I play this and can I choose Jeff Goldblum?
>
> Jeff Goldblum is of the inappropriate sex?
>
>
> Ron
Oh? Oh. Never mind.
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> Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote in message news:<gmhi9ukubu5hurgup...@4ax.com>...
>>
>> >something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
>> >are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>> >french kiss another guy even if paid.
>>
>> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
>> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
>> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
>> you say? Honestly now.
>>
>> >is same-sex sex inherently less
>> >repulsive for women?
>>
>> I've heard that, but don't have any hard data. I think it's a money
>> thang.
> I believe there's a Masters and Johnson study on this. I know I read
> about it somewhere, but I don't recall the book offhand.
> To sum up:
> Male sexuality tends to be polarized, either straight or gay, while
> female sexuality tends to be less rigorously delineated. While most
> women have sexual preferences, they are more willing to experiment
> with homosexuality than men are and find it less offensive or
> threatening when a woman is a lesbian.
Oh for heaven's sake. If I were an actor and if someone were
paying me, a gay man, to kiss a woman, it wouldn't be any big deal. And
for what it's worth, there are any number of gay themed flicks in which 2
straight men kiss. These people are professionals. Give them some
credit, please.
cl
tim gueguen
"Lynn" <cheops.k...@mailops.compound> wrote in message
news:u9js78a...@news.supernews.com...
> "Terwilliger" <Terwilliger-...@onebox.com> wrote...
> >
> > Counter question: How do gay actors and actresses stand
> > kissing and having sex with the opposite gender?
> > *eewwwwww*
>
> Not only that, but why is it so much more distasteful than having to do a
> love scene with a) and actor she can't stand,
The classic example of this being Deborah Winger and Richard Gere in An
Officer and a Gentleman, Winger supposedly not liking her costar in the
least.
tim gueguen 101867
tim gueguen
"Barry Margolin" <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:barmar-D7EAD9....@lrnws01.ne.mediaone.net...
> In article
> <Pine.BSF.4.05.102032...@mtolympus.ari.net>,
> Freeway Sniper <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
>
> > now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
> > something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it?
>
> I think it's along the same lines as kissing a person of the opposite
> sex who you don't find attractive: it's called acting. The profession
> is all about pretending to be a different kind of person than you
> actually are.
>
say spending several 16 hour days in a water tank filming a shipwreck scene,
some simple kissing is hardly up there on the discomfort scale.
tim gueguen 101867
CJ
The message I quoted in my reply was a general statement that "someone
says they'll do xyz for $$$ then they usually don't"
My reply was to post www.kinkyceline.com to show one girl who does do
xyz - anytime...
Obviously Celine prefers not to do lesbian.....but she will do a pony
or a horse.
Doesn't say much for lesbos does it?
I was not promoting her site per say..just pointing out that some
girls will do xyz when they say they will....
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userb3
>now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it?
They're actresses. Its what they do. It probably helps that they're not
homophobic morons.
> there
>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>french kiss another guy even if paid.
Those guys aren't actors.
> is same-sex sex inherently less
>repulsive for women?
Probably, but that is beside the point.
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The Girl Connor
"William December Starr" wrote
> > One actress quit a series, because she was doing gay scenes every
> > week and didn't like it. The writers decided to make her character
> > gay.
>
> Who was this?
>
Could it be Michelle Green (I think that's her name) from LA Law? I
remember she had intense misgivings when the writers suggested taking her
character in a gay direction.
Connor
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Geoff
jdo...@math-lw-n01.math.ucr.edu (James Dolan) deposited this
Nope. The original poster said nothing direct about "not
[liking] the idea of homosexual sex personally." In fact,
he implied that straight men DO like homosexual sex, as long
as it's female. What he directly claimed was that no such
straight male (even though they're attracted to lesbianism)
"would...french kiss another guy even if paid," to which I
replied, "No. Just the homophobic ones."
So, what I wrote was in no way "silly" and I certainly see
no reason to retract it.
Regards,
Geoff "Perhaps you'd like to retract your statements."
Geoff
<dta...@clackamasreview.com> deposited this nugget in this
here newsgroup
>>"Doing a love scene, whether it’s with a man or a woman, in front of a room full of
>>people, for three or four days is probably the most unnatural thing you could do.
>>Forget about the gender of the person you’re with. But I definitely was the one who
>>said, you know, I shouldn’t be drunk. What’s the point? I mean, if you’re gonna
>>choose to go to bed with a woman, and it’s Catherine Deneuve, you don’t need to be
>>drunk."
I can think of only one reason I might need to be drunk to
go to do a love scene with Catherine Deneuve.
Regards,
Geoff "And that's the straight-up truth."
Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y
>
> Oh for heaven's sake. If I were an actor and if someone were
>paying me, a gay man, to kiss a woman, it wouldn't be any big deal. And
>for what it's worth, there are any number of gay themed flicks in which 2
>straight men kiss. These people are professionals. Give them some
>credit, please.
Yeah. I'm not gay myself, but pay me enough and sure I'd kiss another
guy on camera. Doubt anyone would want to pay me for that, though,
since I'm *not* an actor and probably wouldn't be able to look
convincingly like I enjoyed it much.
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> is same-sex sex inherently less
> repulsive for women?
>
CJ
Not this one.... www.kinkyceline.com
Be sure to check out the mpeg clips where Celine "works out" with the
horse...
I think I got a new girlfriend.....!!!!!
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squirts_the_ejaculating_groundhog said....
>All women are inherently bi-sexual.
----------
Lynn
> > >
> > > Counter question: How do gay actors and actresses stand
> > > kissing and having sex with the opposite gender?
> > > *eewwwwww*
> > >
> >
> > Not only that, but why is it so much more distasteful than having to do
> > a love scene with a) and actor she can't stand,
> >
>
> The classic example of this being Deborah Winger and Richard Gere in An
> Officer and a Gentleman, Winger supposedly not liking her costar in the
> least.
Who was it who would chew garlic first, if s/he didn't like her costar?
I've heard it attributed to both Spencer Tracy and Bette Davis.
John R. Rybock
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
>movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
>sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
>reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
>chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
>
>now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>french kiss another guy even if paid. is same-sex sex inherently less
>repulsive for women?
>
>
What about gay men and women who kiss or simulate sex with the
opposite sex, though their personal reaction may be quite similar to
what you're talking about. Think of Amanda Bearse on "Married... with
Children", and the stuff she did on that show.
Marc Fleury
>now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it?
Are you seriously asking this?
The answer is simple: If they don't want to do it, they shouldn't. If
they don't mind, then they can go ahead.
And there are plenty of heterosexual men (myself included) who would
willingly star in a role which involved homosexual scenes. If *you*
don't want to, then don't.
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<gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
>movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
>sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
>reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
>chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
>
>now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>french kiss another guy even if paid. is same-sex sex inherently less
>repulsive for women?
>
It's the job. If the script says do this and your a professional you
do it. You don't have to enjoy it just do it.
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> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:37:47 -0500, Freeway Sniper
> <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
>
> >x-no-archive: yes
> >
> >What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
> >movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
> >sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
> >reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
> >chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
> >
> >now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
> >something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
> >are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> >french kiss another guy even if paid. is same-sex sex inherently less
> >repulsive for women?
> >
>
> It's the job. If the script says do this and your a professional you
> do it. You don't have to enjoy it just do it.
It's definitely the job. There are many stories of opposite sex
co-stars who they hate, have bad breath etc. It's their craft to
make it look passionate. I'm sure a lesbian scene is "harder" for
some women but it's not real sex after all. There *is* a big
difference. I heard Denise Richards had a hard time with her menage a
trois in Wild Things but that may have been because she was nude as
much as anything else. But she seems to have survived. Yeah how many
guys would kiss another male for $100K?
Arthur Levesque
Hell, I've been involved in Rocky Horror for years, and I've seen a
lot of people (male/female, gay/straight) kiss someone that they wouldn't
be attracted to for *free*. It's all about acting.
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> It's the job. If the script says do this and your a professional you
> do it.
Unless you're Will Smith in 6 Degrees.
cl
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> It's definitely the job. There are many stories of opposite sex
> co-stars who they hate, have bad breath etc. It's their craft to
> make it look passionate. I'm sure a lesbian scene is "harder" for
> some women but it's not real sex after all. There *is* a big
> difference. I heard Denise Richards had a hard time with her menage a
> trois in Wild Things but that may have been because she was nude as
> much as anything else. But she seems to have survived.
She and Neve both admitted to drinking plenty of tequila before shooting the
sex scenes.
Arthur Levesque
AR>scene such a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene
AR>does nothing for straight women?
It's not as common as the lesbian fetish among men (which is far
from universal), but there are still LOTS of women who enjoy male/male
homoerotica... From the dawn of the sci-fi "slash" genre (which was
started primarily by women reading and writing Kirk/Spock stories) to
Japanese bishounen/yaoi anime to the works of female authors like Anne
Rice all the way up to hardcore male porn, there's always been an
interest among some women in the "guy/guy scene".
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fend off unwanted attention from men in bars. ("Yes, this IS my girlfriend,
now GO AWAY!") Either that, or we'll just use it for our own entertainment
purposes and tease you unmercifully.
MJF
MJF
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> X-No-Archive: yes
>
> jimsum...@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in message
news:<20020322053041...@mb-me.aol.com>...
> > >All women are inherently bi-sexual.
> >
supposedly
> > straight women get a weird look in their eyes and you look over and
notice that
> > they are staring at a woman's legs, butt, or breasts.
> >
> > And don't give me the, "they are just comparing" line
>
>
> Yeah, I got to agree with this. This thread was unavoidably hijacked
> by the usual crowd: either, hey, we ALL have gay tendencies and you
> are in denial or a homophobe (no we don't) or straight women are no
> more experimental than straight men are. When you go to a party where
> the beer flows too freely and there is an impulsive same-sex kiss
> followed by laughter and whooping all around, it's always 2 girls.
> The quoted Masters and Johnson earlier (women's orientation is more
> free flowing than men's) rings true to me.
>
> Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
> a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
> for straight women?
Well, according to you, it's because all of us women are also waiting for
the girl/girl scenes.
MJF
squirts_the_ejac...@hotmail.com
Alun Jones
>Yeah, I got to agree with this. This thread was unavoidably hijacked
>by the usual crowd: either, hey, we ALL have gay tendencies and you
>are in denial or a homophobe (no we don't) or straight women are no
>more experimental than straight men are. When you go to a party where
>the beer flows too freely and there is an impulsive same-sex kiss
>followed by laughter and whooping all around, it's always 2 girls.
Obviously I went to the wrong kind of parties. :-(
>Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
>a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
>for straight women?
Women are less often interested by visual stimuli than men are. Women seem
more interested in development of emotion and relationship. This is a rough
explanation of why women read more romance books than men do, and why men buy
more porn than women do. It also explains a difference between what sort of
film men and women like to watch.
Or, put a different way, men like to watch, women like to emote. Maybe a
guy/guy scene that is the result of an intense, emotionally complex
relationship over the course of a two-hour movie would be a turn-on for many
women, but I can't imagine that such a movie would get much time in mainstream
movies, let alone be targeted towards women.
Alun.
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>On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:37:47 -0500, Freeway Sniper
><gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>What with lesbian scenes becoming more and more common in non-porno TV and
>>movies, it seems like just about every pretty mainstream actress will
>>sooner or later have to tongue-kiss another actress for "artistic"
>>reasons or do much more. like the great, romping, stomping scene that joan
>>chen ended up doing with pre-coming-out anne heche in "wild side."
>>
>>now since most of these actresses are straight, how can they stand to do
>>something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
>>are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
>>french kiss another guy even if paid. is same-sex sex inherently less
>>repulsive for women?
>>
>
>It's the job. If the script says do this and your a professional you
>do it. You don't have to enjoy it just do it.
I wouldn't do it.
A bigger question is how do straight guy actors, like on Queer as Folk, do the gay scenes?
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> In alt.showbiz.gossip Doug <tr...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> > Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote in message news:<gmhi9ukubu5hurgup...@4ax.com>...
> >>
> >>
> >> >repulsive for women?
> >>
> >> I've heard that, but don't have any hard data. I think it's a money
> >> thang.
>
> > I believe there's a Masters and Johnson study on this. I know I read
> > about it somewhere, but I don't recall the book offhand.
>
> > To sum up:
>
> > Male sexuality tends to be polarized, either straight or gay, while
> > female sexuality tends to be less rigorously delineated. While most
> > women have sexual preferences, they are more willing to experiment
> > with homosexuality than men are and find it less offensive or
> > threatening when a woman is a lesbian.
>
> Oh for heaven's sake. If I were an actor and if someone were
> paying me, a gay man, to kiss a woman, it wouldn't be any big deal. And
> for what it's worth, there are any number of gay themed flicks in which 2
> straight men kiss. These people are professionals. Give them some
> credit, please.
That's not the part of the statement I was responding to, obviously.
(For those having trouble keeping score, "inherently less repulsive"
rather than "gay for pay.")
Doug
squirts_the_ejac...@hotmail.com
> A bigger question is how do straight guy actors, like on Queer as Folk,
> do the gay scenes?
Or how do straight actors on OZ allow them selves to be fucked in the ass.
R. Cohen
Well whatever works right? I'm sure Matt Dillon was equally
challenged! NOT! Well most actors and actresses talk about how nude
love scenes are just odd and very unsexy given the mechanical aspects
of filming and re-fliming scenes. Is it time to discuss our favorite
lesbian movies scenes yet?
Susan Sarandon and Catherine Denenuve in the Hunger!
Cardinal Chunder
> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex.
For that kind of money I'd fist a guy.
Doctor Wu
Cardinal Chunder <c...@foo.no.spam.xyzabcfghllaa.com> wrote:
LOL!
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Dawn Taylor
squirts_the_ejac...@hotmail.com wrote:
It's easy to see in this thread who gets all their information about
women from Penthouse and Maxim.
Dawn
Dawn Taylor
Arthur Levesque wrote:
> Abdul Rahim>Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl
> AR>scene such a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene
> AR>does nothing for straight women?
>
> It's not as common as the lesbian fetish among men (which is far
> from universal), but there are still LOTS of women who enjoy male/male
> homoerotica... From the dawn of the sci-fi "slash" genre (which was
> started primarily by women reading and writing Kirk/Spock stories) to
> Japanese bishounen/yaoi anime to the works of female authors like Anne
> Rice all the way up to hardcore male porn, there's always been an
> interest among some women in the "guy/guy scene".
Oh yeah.
I mean <ahem> from what I've read, yes.
Dawn
(is it hot in here?)
MJF
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>
> jimsum...@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in message
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> >
supposedly
> > straight women get a weird look in their eyes and you look over and
notice that
> > they are staring at a woman's legs, butt, or breasts.
> >
> > And don't give me the, "they are just comparing" line
>
>
> by the usual crowd: either, hey, we ALL have gay tendencies and you
> are in denial or a homophobe (no we don't) or straight women are no
> more experimental than straight men are. When you go to a party where
> the beer flows too freely and there is an impulsive same-sex kiss
> followed by laughter and whooping all around, it's always 2 girls.
Did you ever consider that maybe these two girls are kissing each other
because they know they'll suddenly become the center of attention, with
masses of slobbering, drooling men focused entirely on them?
David Johnston
rahim) wrote:
>Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
>a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
>for straight women?
Read some slash fanfiction, and learn better. There are plenty of
women who find the idea of two guys together to be very erotic.
Maybe not quite as many as guys into lesbians, but enough to have
created their own micro-genre of amateur writing.
T Berk
>
<snip>
> Regards,
> Geoff "Now, muffdiving...that's a sacrament!"
>
In this long drawn out thread, even here, there are pearls of wisdom.
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>
> jimsum...@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in message news:<20020322053041...@mb-me.aol.com>...
>
> Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
> a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
> for straight women?
I know girls who are into male/male stuff, although I guess it's nowhere near as common as guys liking lesbian
scenes.
DebT
abdul rahim wrote in message ...
>Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
>a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
>for straight women?
Are you living in a bubble or what?
You might want to check out that internet classic - the Slash Archives. In
the beginning written primarily by straight women and featuring a lot of boy
on boy lovemakin', not to mention the good old S&M and B&D. It all began
with Kirk and Spock, but I think it found its true expression in the
X-Files. Good old Mulder had so many partners to choose from and none of
them female, let alone Scully.
Deb
DebT
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>For that kind of money I'd fist a guy.
But would you be willing to be fisted?
Deb
Greg
Greg
Mike V.
> > is same-sex sex inherently less
> > repulsive for women?
> >
I wouldn't go so far as to say that all women are bisexual. There are
plenty of lesbians who have no sexual attraction to men whatsoever.
Brent McKee
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>
> "William December Starr" wrote
> > > One actress quit a series, because she was doing gay scenes every
> > > week and didn't like it. The writers decided to make her character
> > > gay.
> >
> > Who was this?
> >
>
> Could it be Michelle Green (I think that's her name) from LA Law? I
> remember she had intense misgivings when the writers suggested taking her
> character in a gay direction.
She did. Her character (Abby) was supposed to become the love interest of
Amanda Donohoe's character. I also seem to recall that Cynthia Sykes left
"St. Elsewhere" when the producers decided that her character would become a
lesbian.
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A Adams
<squirts_the_ejac...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >
> All women are inherently bi-sexual.
Thats a crock of shit. Guys with small dicks like you only say this because
it helps their pathetic little fantasies.
Chris
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Christopher Meadowbrook
"abdul rahim" <abdul....@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
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> Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
> a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
> for straight women?
That's a generalisation. I have a female friend who finds the idea of gay
male sex v. attractive but is repulsed by the idea of lesbian sex.
-CM
Greg
"Christopher Meadowbrook" <suzer...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> That's a generalisation. I have a female friend who finds the idea of gay
> male sex v. attractive but is repulsed by the idea of lesbian sex.
>
Oh, well she's just weird... :)
Greg
Christopher Meadowbrook
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Are you trying to imply that when two women are alone together, they don't
invariably strip to their undies and start having a pillow fight?
Because it won't work.
-CM
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>>
>>jimsum...@aol.com (Jim Summers87) wrote in message news:<20020322053041...@mb-me.aol.com>...
>>>
>>> straight women get a weird look in their eyes and you look over and notice that
>>> they are staring at a woman's legs, butt, or breasts.
>>>
>>> And don't give me the, "they are just comparing" line
>>
>>
>>Yeah, I got to agree with this. This thread was unavoidably hijacked
>>by the usual crowd: either, hey, we ALL have gay tendencies and you
>>are in denial or a homophobe (no we don't) or straight women are no
>>more experimental than straight men are. When you go to a party where
>>the beer flows too freely and there is an impulsive same-sex kiss
>>followed by laughter and whooping all around, it's always 2 girls.
>>free flowing than men's) rings true to me.
>>
>>Got a question myself related to this: why is a girl/girl scene such
>>a turnon for so many straight men, while a guy/guy scene does nothing
>>for straight women?
Aside from the fact that you're wrong about the guy/guy
stuff (as other posters have pointed out), I'd say girl/girl
scenes are a turn-on to straight men for several reasons:
1. Men are more visually oriented than women. Has to do
with neural hardwiring, or some such.
2. Most straight men will never in their life get the
opportunity to enjoy girl/girl sex, either as an observer or
as part of a menage.
3. Males don't find girl/girl sex threatening, and they can
freely imagine themselves either taking part in a menage, or
"helping" the poor lipstick lesbians find the true
satisfaction of a "real" man. The poor simps.
4. It's a scenario that indulges the male obsession with
control and strength. It also allows them to indulge
whatever homosexual urges they may have, by sublimating
through the fantasy of being one of the women.
Regards,
Geoff "And other kinky things too perverse to go into here."
Geoff
squirts_the_ejac...@hotmail.com deposited this
nugget in this here newsgroup
>>> is same-sex sex inherently less
>>> repulsive for women?
>>>
What? And men aren't?
Get real.
Regards,
Geoff "I mean, really!"
Geoff
<dta...@clackamasreview.com> deposited this nugget in this
here newsgroup
>>
>>
Need a nice cooler, Dawn?
Regards,
Geoff "I have just the thing..."
David Johnston
>4. It's a scenario that indulges the male obsession with
>control and strength.
It does? I'm not sure I get that.
It also allows them to indulge
>whatever homosexual urges they may have, by sublimating
>through the fantasy of being one of the women.
Actually that's a transexual fantasy, not a homosexual fantasy.
Aunt Acid
>
> Are you trying to imply that when two women are alone together, they don't
> invariably strip to their undies and start having a pillow fight?
>
And let's not foget what guys do with other guys on all those camping trips
with their "buddies".
Auntie
zim
>>> is same-sex sex inherently less
>>> repulsive for women?
>>>
>> All women are inherently bi-sexual.
>
> I wouldn't go so far as to say that all women are bisexual. There are
> plenty of lesbians who have no sexual attraction to men whatsoever.
Hey, maybe it has nothing to do with women and men as agents of attraction
but women and men as subjects of attraction. Perhaps it's just that women
are way more attractive than men.
(I do think that women *tend* to have more fluid sexualities, at least
partially based on the fact that there is less stigma attached and other
cultural reasons.)
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hi
"Hank" <nos...@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Freeway Sniper" <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote in message
> news:Pine.BSF.4.05.102032...@mtolympus.ari.net...
>
> > there
> > are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> > french kiss another guy even if paid.
>
> Then perhaps they would not be well suited for acting in roles which might
> include kissing. Similarly, there are some people who are not well suited
> to be CPAs, dentists, or rodeo clowns. Big ol' world.
>
> It is really a basic transaction. An actor reads the script, and
considers
> if the money / prestige / experience is worth auditioning for, or taking,
> the part. The folks you see up on the big screen doing perhaps
> less-than-pleasant things are the people who haven't self-selected out.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Jason Lane
>Aside from the fact that you're wrong about the guy/guy
>stuff (as other posters have pointed out), I'd say girl/girl
>scenes are a turn-on to straight men for several reasons:
>
>1. Men are more visually oriented than women. Has to do
>with neural hardwiring, or some such.
>
>2. Most straight men will never in their life get the
>opportunity to enjoy girl/girl sex, either as an observer or
>as part of a menage.
>
>3. Males don't find girl/girl sex threatening, and they can
>freely imagine themselves either taking part in a menage, or
>"helping" the poor lipstick lesbians find the true
>satisfaction of a "real" man. The poor simps.
>
>4. It's a scenario that indulges the male obsession with
>control and strength. It also allows them to indulge
>whatever homosexual urges they may have, by sublimating
>through the fantasy of being one of the women.
You forgot one: lesbian sex has no STD risk. Male/male sex, OTOH...
that will turn a LOT of women away.
hi
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steve2000
Oz tv show and had to kiss this woman who was a Oz Tv star. I was SO
nervous I automatically shoved the tongue in (which is not done.) I
was mortified but she was great about it.
It's acting. Check out the British series "Queer As Folk" sometime.
A lot of the guy are straight but they're tickling tonsils and pulling
puds and all sorts of gay stuff.
steve-- a fountain of knowledge about, well, everything.
Ronald O. Christian <ro...@europa.com> wrote in message news:<gmhi9ukubu5hurgup...@4ax.com>...
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:37:47 -0500, Freeway Sniper
> <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net> wrote:
> >now since most of these actresses are straight,
>
> ...as far as you know...
>
> >how can they stand to do
> >something like this, even when they're being paid handsomely for it? there
> >are plenty of slobbering straight guys watching this stuff who would not
> >french kiss another guy even if paid.
>
> Really? Ok, I'm offering you twenty-five MILLION dollars to french
> kiss a reasonably attractive actor of the
> inappropriate-not-that-there's-anything-wrong-with-that sex. What do
> you say? Honestly now.
>
> >is same-sex sex inherently less
> >repulsive for women?
>
> I've heard that, but don't have any hard data. I think it's a money
> thang.
>
>
> Ron
> http://roc85.home.attbi.com
> "If UN peacekeeping had been involved during the US civil war,
> it'd still be going on today."
steve2000
> female sexuality tends to be less rigorously delineated. While most
> women have sexual preferences, they are more willing to experiment
> with homosexuality than men are and find it less offensive or
> threatening when a woman is a lesbian.
>
> It's one of the reasons we don't find it as unusual for women to be
> touchy-feely with each other than men. It's a cultural bias that
> stems from biology.
>
> Doug
I agree with Gore Vidal. There's no such beast as a homosexual or a
heterosexual. There are homosexual or heterosexual (or autosexual
or...) acts.
s xx
Doug
What an amazingly stupid thing to say.
No wonder I've never liked any of Vidal's books.
Doug
hi
I see no reason for anyone to come play with me if they have all
the same toys...what's the point?
lol
"Sam Richards" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:ra1r9ucc021ovruqs...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 19:00:11 GMT, gbur...@erinet.com (Geoff) wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 02:27:05 -0000,
> >squirts_the_ejac...@hotmail.com deposited this
> >nugget in this here newsgroup
> >>>According to Freeway Sniper <gl...@mtolympus.ari.net>:
> >>>> is same-sex sex inherently less
> >>>> repulsive for women?
> >>>>
> >>>All women are inherently bi-sexual.
> >
> >What? And men aren't?
>
> No we aren't.
>
> Men, in general, do not find other men attractive.
>
> There is not one Hollywood leading male star who remotely interests me
> sexually.
>
> Sam
Marc Fleury
>>>>All women are inherently bi-sexual.
>>
>>What? And men aren't?
>No we aren't.
>Men, in general, do not find other men attractive.
>
>There is not one Hollywood leading male star who remotely interests me
>sexually.
And why do you think it's reasonable to extrapolate from one case
(you) to make a conclusion about billions of others?
--
Marc.
aa #1971
Mike Rhino
news:3c9ccc80$0$35579$272e...@news.execpc.com...
> >> why is a girl/girl scene such
> >> a turnon for so many straight men,
With still pictures, a pictures of a woman alone are fairly popular. With
some men, when they see a naked woman, the dick goes up, when they see a
naked man, the dick goes down, and when they see both together, the dick is
at half mast. Having a man in a scene can make the scene less erotic for
some male viewers. Maybe the male viewer feels threatened or is less well
endowed. In movies, you have to show action. Normally this action involves
two or more people. Thus you end up with lesbian scenes.
steve2000
> > heterosexual. There are homosexual or heterosexual (or autosexual
> > or...) acts.
> >
> > s xx
>
> What an amazingly stupid thing to say.
>
> No wonder I've never liked any of Vidal's books.
>
> Doug
What an amazingly dismissive response to one of the USA's best
essayists and thinkers. (His novels are a leetle yawny.) Did you
spend hours pondering the thought and mulling it over first?
steve-- thinking that thinking outside the circle is un-American.
Big J
news:9b1e5a4.02032...@posting.google.com:
> steve-- thinking that thinking outside the circle is un-American.
Perhaps not *un*-American, but quite *typically* American.
Big J
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"Aunt Acid" <Aunt...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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R. Cohen
> >
Yeah, they drink, smoke and talk a lot about sports, women and sex...
Wishy13764
won't mind..especially if they get paid for it. This way, if approached on the
matter, they can always say.."I did it for my career."