Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Doesn't This Prove Their Point?

1 view
Skip to first unread message

Ubiquitous

unread,
May 23, 2012, 5:50:37 AM5/23/12
to
Why this is marked as abuse? It has been marked as abuse.
Report not abuse
"Some said I lacked 'gravitas,' which I've since decided is Latin for
'testicles.' "
-- TV news anchor Katie Couric, quoted by NewsBusters.org, May 21


anim8rFSK

unread,
May 23, 2012, 9:46:13 AM5/23/12
to
In article <jpigk4$s1u$2...@dont-email.me>,
I don't know why everybody says she's so stupid ...

--
So we're all agreed that Clod is as stupid as Charlie Sheen?

Jim T.

unread,
May 23, 2012, 11:26:00 AM5/23/12
to
On Wed, 23 May 2012 05:50:37 -0400, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

>"Some said I lacked 'gravitas,' which I've since decided is Latin for
>'testicles.' "
> -- TV news anchor Katie Couric, quoted by NewsBusters.org, May 21

Prove what? That you're too dumb to recognize an obvious joke?

Obveeus

unread,
May 23, 2012, 11:22:05 AM5/23/12
to

"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> "Some said I lacked 'gravitas,' which I've since decided is Latin for
>> 'testicles.' "
>> -- TV news anchor Katie Couric, quoted by NewsBusters.org, May 21
>
> I don't know why everybody says she's so stupid ...

That was actually one of the very few things she said in the speech that
seemed accurate.


Jim G.

unread,
May 23, 2012, 11:25:30 AM5/23/12
to
anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/23/2012 8:46 AM:
> In article<jpigk4$s1u$2...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous<web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> "Some said I lacked 'gravitas,' which I've since decided is Latin for
>> 'testicles.' "
>> -- TV news anchor Katie Couric, quoted by NewsBusters.org, May 21
>
> I don't know why everybody says she's so stupid ...

It's nice to know that she took someone else's big day--a lot of someone
elses, actually--and turned it into an opportunity to climb onto her own
cross and complain about being a victim. I'm sure that it made it all
extra special for the graduates.

--
Jim G. | Waukesha, WI
"I find it's best if you just ... go with it." -- Lincoln Lee, providing
us with FRINGE's "Every question just leads to more questions" moment

Mason Barge

unread,
May 23, 2012, 12:16:57 PM5/23/12
to
On Wed, 23 May 2012 06:46:13 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>In article <jpigk4$s1u$2...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> "Some said I lacked 'gravitas,' which I've since decided is Latin for
>> 'testicles.' "
>> -- TV news anchor Katie Couric, quoted by NewsBusters.org, May 21
>
>I don't know why everybody says she's so stupid ...

She peeked!

anim8rFSK

unread,
May 23, 2012, 4:10:01 PM5/23/12
to
In article <jpivhi$dmk$3...@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/23/2012 8:46 AM:
> > In article<jpigk4$s1u$2...@dont-email.me>,
> > Ubiquitous<web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Some said I lacked 'gravitas,' which I've since decided is Latin for
> >> 'testicles.' "
> >> -- TV news anchor Katie Couric, quoted by NewsBusters.org, May 21
> >
> > I don't know why everybody says she's so stupid ...
>
> It's nice to know that she took someone else's big day--a lot of someone
> elses, actually--and turned it into an opportunity to climb onto her own
> cross and complain about being a victim. I'm sure that it made it all
> extra special for the graduates.

Yeah, I especially like the "this fresh hell waits for you" message.

Steve Bartman

unread,
May 23, 2012, 5:52:32 PM5/23/12
to
On Wed, 23 May 2012 10:25:30 -0500, "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com>
wrote:

>It's nice to know that she took someone else's big day--a lot of someone
>elses, actually--and turned it into an opportunity to climb onto her own
>cross and complain about being a victim. I'm sure that it made it all
>extra special for the graduates.

In 1980 I sat on that same Lawn at UVA, graduating, listening to an
alumnus speak. He was the CEO of AT&T and as I recall the speech was
about the coming breakup of Ma Bell and deregulation in the perfect
economic climate we were soon to experience.

Stirring stuff.

Steve

Obveeus

unread,
May 23, 2012, 6:18:42 PM5/23/12
to
This is the perfect point to blame the media. If media were not covering
these events, there would be a much greater chance that the speech would be
written to the graduates instead of to the general public / stockholders.


William December Starr

unread,
May 23, 2012, 6:40:19 PM5/23/12
to
In article <jpivhi$dmk$3...@news.albasani.net>,
"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com> said:

> It's nice to know that she took someone else's big day--a lot of
> someone elses, actually--and turned it into an opportunity to
> climb onto her own cross and complain about being a victim. I'm
> sure that it made it all extra special for the graduates.

Has any graduate anywhere ever listened to their commencement
speaker's speech?

-- wds

anim8rFSK

unread,
May 23, 2012, 9:31:42 PM5/23/12
to
In article <jpjno4$q86$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
Oh, I don't know. I think Katie's capable of giving a self serving and
dishonest report on or off camera.

anim8rFSK

unread,
May 23, 2012, 9:38:47 PM5/23/12
to
In article <jpjp0j$ip6$1...@panix3.panix.com>,
Yes. We booed one of the speakers off the stage at ASU.

Steve Newport

unread,
May 24, 2012, 9:07:55 AM5/24/12
to
From: anim...@cox.net (anim8rFSK)
Katie's capable of giving a self serving and dishonest report on or off
camera.
-----------------------------------------
SN: Misogynist Alert!

*********************************

trotsky

unread,
May 24, 2012, 10:38:05 AM5/24/12
to
On 5/24/12 8:07 AM, Steve Newport wrote:
> From: anim...@cox.net (anim8rFSK)
> Katie's capable of giving a self serving and dishonest report on or off
> camera.
> -----------------------------------------
> SN: Misogynist Alert!


In spades.

Remysun

unread,
May 24, 2012, 11:09:07 AM5/24/12
to
On May 23, 9:38 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <jpjp0j$ip...@panix3.panix.com>,
>  wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:

> > Has any graduate anywhere ever listened to their commencement
> > speaker's speech?

> Yes.  We booed one of the speakers off the stage at ASU.

That hardly qualifies as listening.

tdciago

unread,
May 24, 2012, 12:13:39 PM5/24/12
to
On May 23, 11:25 am, "Jim G." <jimgy...@geemail.com> wrote:
> It's nice to know that she took someone else's big day--a lot of someone
> elses, actually--and turned it into an opportunity to climb onto her own
> cross and complain about being a victim. I'm sure that it made it all
> extra special for the graduates.

You hit the nail on the head. That's what infuriated me when I read
about this. Keeping it TV-related, I flashed back to the annoyance I
felt when Rory Gilmore made her valedictory speech all about herself
on "Gilmore Girls."

At the University of Georgia, we got Gov. Nathan Deal talking about
_Through the Looking Glass_ and _Tuck Everlasting_, which was rather
weird, but at least he didn't make the speech all about himself:
http://commencement.uga.edu/article/georgia-governor-nathan-deal-2012-spring-semester/

Obveeus

unread,
May 24, 2012, 12:57:45 PM5/24/12
to

"William December Starr" <wds...@panix.com> wrote:

> Has any graduate anywhere ever listened to their commencement
> speaker's speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDggB-MhYC4


Steve Bartman

unread,
May 24, 2012, 1:06:43 PM5/24/12
to
I don't recall any media covering the graduation at UVA in 1980 except
maybe due to us wearing the (first?) yellow ribbons to support a
senior US diplomat then sitting in chains in Teheran and whose
offspring was graduating college than day.

The CEO talked about deregulation because the was the center of his
universe and he couldn't imagine that it wasn't fascinating. Which was
largely my point about Katie's speech, although I would have much
preferred her to have spoken to us in 1980 than AT&T Guy.

(Especially given how she looked in 1980. Bada BOOM!!!)


Steve

Steve Bartman

unread,
May 24, 2012, 1:07:44 PM5/24/12
to
On Wed, 23 May 2012 18:38:47 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
Classy.


Steve

anim8rFSK

unread,
May 24, 2012, 2:32:09 PM5/24/12
to
In article
<df6c498b-6774-484f...@kw17g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
We listened enough to know to get the bitch off stage.

Steve Newport

unread,
May 25, 2012, 5:14:19 AM5/25/12
to
From: anim...@cox.net (anim8rFSK)
We listened enough to know to get the bitch off stage.
--------------------------------------
SN: Misogynist alert. Again.

*********************************

Remysun

unread,
May 25, 2012, 11:52:50 AM5/25/12
to
On May 24, 1:06 pm, Steve Bartman <sbart...@visi.com> wrote:

> Which was
> largely my point about Katie's speech, although I would have much
> preferred her to have spoken to us in 1980 than AT&T Guy.
>
> (Especially given how she looked in 1980. Bada BOOM!!!)

Except the robes would not have done her legs justice.

Jim G.

unread,
May 25, 2012, 1:14:39 PM5/25/12
to
Steve Bartman sent the following on 5/23/2012 4:52 PM:
There have been some good commencement speakers at various venues over
the years, but I'm reminded of the "exception to the rule" bit. Of
course, when you choose an idiot to speak to your graduating class, you
kinda have to expect an idiotic speech.

Jim G.

unread,
May 25, 2012, 1:14:50 PM5/25/12
to
William December Starr sent the following on 5/23/2012 5:40 PM:
Absolutely. And some of those speakers actually made an effort to make
their speeches about the graduates instead of about themselves.
Craziness, I know, but maybe it will still catch on someday.

Jim G.

unread,
May 25, 2012, 1:17:54 PM5/25/12
to
tdciago sent the following on 5/24/2012 11:13 AM:
The older I get, the less tolerant I am with self-absorbed people have
to turn everything into Something About Them.

Steve Bartman

unread,
May 25, 2012, 2:42:45 PM5/25/12
to
On Fri, 25 May 2012 12:17:54 -0500, "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com>
wrote:

>tdciago sent the following on 5/24/2012 11:13 AM:
>> On May 23, 11:25 am, "Jim G."<jimgy...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> It's nice to know that she took someone else's big day--a lot of someone
>>> elses, actually--and turned it into an opportunity to climb onto her own
>>> cross and complain about being a victim. I'm sure that it made it all
>>> extra special for the graduates.
>>
>> You hit the nail on the head. That's what infuriated me when I read
>> about this. Keeping it TV-related, I flashed back to the annoyance I
>> felt when Rory Gilmore made her valedictory speech all about herself
>> on "Gilmore Girls."
>>
>> At the University of Georgia, we got Gov. Nathan Deal talking about
>> _Through the Looking Glass_ and _Tuck Everlasting_, which was rather
>> weird, but at least he didn't make the speech all about himself:
>> http://commencement.uga.edu/article/georgia-governor-nathan-deal-2012-spring-semester/
>
>The older I get, the less tolerant I am with self-absorbed people have
>to turn everything into Something About Them.

If you want somebody to utter shibboleths about Life, Hardship, Hope,
and Dreams you can get any schlub off the street, have him read five
self-help books, shower and shave him, and shove him out there.

But when you hire a Somebody to speak it's because they've done
something in their life the sponsors of the speech think might be
interesting. The speaker's challenge is to meld their life experiences
with the hopey-dreamy stuff. Some do it better than others.
Politicians often do it very badly, and the more senior they get the
more they use graduation speeches to do policy pronouncements.
Presidents often speak at military academy graduations because the
graduates are new employees, and to speak about foreign policy and how
the military interfaces with that. No one should be surprised at that
IMO.

From what little I read about Katie's speech she blended her
experiences as a female working in a male world in 1980 with the
expectations of her audience, particularly the female graduates. Being
related to a 25-YO female professional I can say that many in that
generation have no idea what conditions were like for their mothers
when they started working. You may not like the topic, but it was
relevant for graduation. And I'm sure Katie was funny in places, as is
appropriate.

Steve
0 new messages