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Ewan Spence

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Feb 1, 1994, 1:17:07 PM2/1/94
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do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gareth Morrell) writes:


>In a previous article, jhig...@baloo.axion.bt.co.uk (Jeff Higgott) says:

>>A Blue Peter question for you all...
>>
>> Which presenter was it who was impressed by "a lovely pair of knockers"
>>attached to a front door in the studio?
>>
>> I seem to remember that it was Chris Wenner, though could it have been
>>Simon Groome?
>>
>>Jeff...
>>
>This is partly correct. I'm pretty sure the presenter involved was Simon
>Groome, but the segment in question concerned a feature about the medieval
>sanctuary knocker at Durham cathedral. I believe at the time the original
>knocker was being removed to protect it from corrosion, and was being
>replaced by a replica. As the film ended we returned to the studio, and at
>this point Mr Groome uttered the immortal words "what a magnificent pair of
>knockers", or words to that effect.

>However as he said them, his face clouded over in an attitude of
>puzzlement, which suggested to me that the script on the tele-prompter had
>been tampered with, and the offending sentence inserted as a joke.
>Certainly it's hard to believe that this would have slipped through the
>dress rehearsal (Blue Peter is a very thoroughly rehearsed show). If my
>analysis is correct, I'm wondering if the culprit was fired.
>--
>Gareth Morrell do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu

Well done, Gareth.

BUT!!!!!!

Blue Peter may be a thorougly rehearsed show (doesn't look like it
nowadays, though), but THEY NEVER USED AN AUTOCUE UNTIL YYVETTE FIELDING
CAME ALONG <Caps Lock Off>

The autocue is very prohibitive, and locks off some of the tracking
shots for the crew. Simon Groome either forgot precisly what he was
going to say (very probably, considering how bad Tina Heath, Chris
Wenner and himself were at learning scripts), or _he_ was making the
joke.

Best bet is to read Biddy Baxters book >>The Blue Peter Story<<. It's
got all sorts of info in it like this.

PS, can anyone remember the furore that happened when Mark Curry took
that mud massage in Russia. Sheesh!!!!

--Ewan

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Jeff Higgott

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Feb 2, 1994, 5:45:01 AM2/2/94
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From article <2iln1s$8...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, by do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu !

>
> In a previous article, jhig...@baloo.axion.bt.co.uk (Jeff Higgott) says:
>
>>A Blue Peter question for you all...
>>
>> Which presenter was it who was impressed by "a lovely pair of knockers"
>>attached to a front door in the studio?
>
> However as he said them, his face clouded over in an attitude of
> puzzlement, which suggested to me that the script on the tele-prompter had
> been tampered with, and the offending sentence inserted as a joke.
> Certainly it's hard to believe that this would have slipped through the
> dress rehearsal (Blue Peter is a very thoroughly rehearsed show). If my
> analysis is correct, I'm wondering if the culprit was fired.

I wonder just how much ad libbing there was on Blue Peter.
I can't believe that when dressed in a suit of armour, Simon Groome's
announcement to every under 10 in the country...

"Once a king always a king - but once a (k)night is enough!"

...was scripted. Nor can I believe that when cooking, Pete Duncan's
instruction...

"Finely chop one raw egg"

...came out as planned!


Jeff


"Gerd would park his Volkswagen at the end of the day
willy nilly in the driveway
usually the wrong way round." - MES

Gareth Morrell

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Feb 2, 1994, 8:45:20 AM2/2/94
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>I wonder just how much ad libbing there was on Blue Peter.
>I can't believe that when dressed in a suit of armour, Simon Groome's
>announcement to every under 10 in the country...
>
> "Once a king always a king - but once a (k)night is enough!"
>
> ...was scripted. Nor can I believe that when cooking, Pete Duncan's
>instruction...
>
> "Finely chop one raw egg"
>
> ...came out as planned!

I was one of the fortunate people to be listening to Test Match Special
when Don Mosey announced "The batsman's Holding, the bowler's Willey". Now
was that a mistake, or did Mr Mosey wait for years for that particular
combination? And what about the late Brian Johnston's many goofs?

I agree that the "pair of knockers" line could have been an ad lib, but it
certainly didn't look like it. And it COULD have been a line slipped into
the script on an autocue, since they were using it from time to time from
the 70's onwards.
--
Gareth Morrell do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu

Louise Wootton

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Feb 1, 1994, 1:23:47 PM2/1/94
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I remember watching the show that day but though I can picture
the presenter, I can't name him.. however to add spice to the
pot I have a half memory that the same presenter was later
found to have made some rather steamy (sordid?) blue movies
before becoming a presenter on the show? I remember some headlines
in which the blue of "Blue Peter" was related to this other "Blue".
Speaking as the proud owner of a "BLUE PETER BADGE" of course
I don't believe a word of it!

Roderick Begbie

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Feb 2, 1994, 5:44:00 PM2/2/94
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-=> Once upon a time, LOUISE WOOTTON muttered... <=-

-=> pot I have a half memory that the same presenter was later
-=> found to have made some rather steamy (sordid?) blue movies
-=> before becoming a presenter on the show? I remember some headlines
-=> in which the blue of "Blue Peter" was related to this other "Blue".

No, that was Peter Duncan who then went on to do "Duncan Dares" and has
thankfully never been seen again!

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Steve Phillips

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Feb 3, 1994, 4:37:50 AM2/3/94
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More "Blue Peter" scandal:

Tina Heath was found not to be married to her baby's father......

Peter Duncan made a couple of (very) soft porn movies.....

Michael Sundin was gay (he died of AIDS last year)......

Simon Groom ad-libbed quote (he is standing next to a suit of armour):
"Once a king, always a king. But once a knight is enough for any man."

STeve

David Gibbs

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Feb 3, 1994, 7:06:02 AM2/3/94
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do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gareth Morrell) writes:
:
: I agree that the "pair of knockers" line could have been an ad lib, but it

: certainly didn't look like it. And it COULD have been a line slipped into
: the script on an autocue, since they were using it from time to time from
: the 70's onwards.

If you read Biddy Baxter's book on Blue Peter, you'll find that it most
definitely wasn't scripted, that she was furious, and that Simon Groome was
damn lucky to keep his job! She sees the funny side now, though ...

In this book, she also explains how the autocue was very rarely used, except
for very complicated technical stuff, as it lacked spontaneity -- but
everything was scripted rather than ad libbed. However, when Yvette Fielding
joined, she had a complete inability to remember a single line, and so she
got to use the autocue, much to Biddy's regret.

--

David Gibbs

Gareth Morrell

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Feb 3, 1994, 8:44:59 AM2/3/94
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In a previous article, dav...@compnews.co.uk (David Gibbs) says:


>If you read Biddy Baxter's book on Blue Peter, you'll find that it most
>definitely wasn't scripted, that she was furious, and that Simon Groome was
>damn lucky to keep his job! She sees the funny side now, though ...
>
>In this book, she also explains how the autocue was very rarely used, except
>for very complicated technical stuff, as it lacked spontaneity -- but
>everything was scripted rather than ad libbed. However, when Yvette Fielding
>joined, she had a complete inability to remember a single line, and so she
>got to use the autocue, much to Biddy's regret.

Funnily enough Biddy Baxter's book is not a best-seller in the USA, so
maybe you could tell me what year she claims to have begun using the
autocue extensively. I visited the set of Blue Peter three times between
1984 and 1986, and the autocue was quite definitely in use at that time,
and not just for "complicated technical stuff". Call me cynical if you
like, but I don't necessarily believe it because Ms Baxter writes it! It
sounds impressive to claim that a scripted program is done live on one
day's rehearsal, and with no autocue, but I doubt whether that was the way
it really happened.
--
Gareth Morrell do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu

Andrew Welsh

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Feb 3, 1994, 12:24:32 PM2/3/94
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In article <2ioapg$6...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, do...@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gareth Morrell) writes:
|>
|>

[snip!]

|> I was one of the fortunate people to be listening to Test Match Special
|> when Don Mosey announced "The batsman's Holding, the bowler's Willey". Now
|> was that a mistake, or did Mr Mosey wait for years for that particular
|> combination? And what about the late Brian Johnston's many goofs?
|>

According to the piece about Brian Johnson on the Nine O'Clock News recently, it
was intentional, and they had been waiting quite some time for that combination
to arise.

--
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Don't assume that I'm speaking for anyone other than myself

David Gibbs

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Feb 5, 1994, 7:28:18 AM2/5/94
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roderic...@almac.co.uk (Roderick Begbie) writes:
: -=> Once upon a time, LOUISE WOOTTON muttered... <=-

:
: -=> pot I have a half memory that the same presenter was later
: -=> found to have made some rather steamy (sordid?) blue movies
: -=> before becoming a presenter on the show? I remember some headlines
: -=> in which the blue of "Blue Peter" was related to this other "Blue".
:
: No, that was Peter Duncan who then went on to do "Duncan Dares" and has
: thankfully never been seen again!
:
I hate to be contrary, but surely the infamous "Blue" Peter porn star was
none other than Michael "Piggy Eyes" Sundin, who was sacked when the story
made the tabloids?
--

David Gibbs

Roderick Begbie

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Feb 6, 1994, 4:29:00 PM2/6/94
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-=> Once upon a time, DAVID GIBBS muttered... <=-

-=> : No, that was Peter Duncan who then went on to do "Duncan Dares" and has
-=> : thankfully never been seen again!

-=> I hate to be contrary, but surely the infamous "Blue" Peter porn star was
-=> none other than Michael "Piggy Eyes" Sundin, who was sacked when the story
-=> made the tabloids?

Well, I'm convinced that what I read said Peter Duncan. I didn't
remember the name "Micheal Sundin" until this thread started (although I
remember who he was - the guy that was in Cats and that Wizard of Oz
film that Disney made).

CG RUSSELL

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Feb 15, 1994, 3:52:09 AM2/15/94
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Roderick Begbie (roderic...@almac.co.uk) wrote:

: Well, I'm convinced that what I read said Peter Duncan. I didn't


: remember the name "Micheal Sundin" until this thread started (although I
: remember who he was - the guy that was in Cats and that Wizard of Oz
: film that Disney made).

He also appeared in the Culture Club video of "I'll Tumble for You", at
least I think it was the Culture Club. He was the guy doing the back flips
all over the place, I remember Blue Peter doing a special programme
because of it.

Cheers,
chris.
--
Chris Russell Hear all, See all, Say Nowt,
Electronic Imaging Eat all, Drink all, Pay Nowt,
and Media Communications And if evva tha' does owt fer nowt,
University of Bradford Allus do it fer thisen.

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