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v113...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu

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Jan 30, 1995, 5:27:01 PM1/30/95
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More rhyming slang...

North (and south) = mouth
Duchess (of Fife) = wife

Cheerio, Geoff

Martin Underwood

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Jan 31, 1995, 1:19:48 PM1/31/95
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v113...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu wrote:
: More rhyming slang...

: North (and south) = mouth
: Duchess (of Fife) = wife

: Cheerio, Geoff

There's also

Farmer (Giles) = piles (as heard on last night's "Steptoe and Son" -
"My farmers are playing up today")

Pony (and trap) = crap ("I'm just going for a pony")

Elephants (trunk) = drunk ("Fred was roaring elephants last night")

Brahms (and Liszt) = pissed

Huey (Green) = green (ie about to throw up) [Huey Green used to present
"Opportunity Knocks"]

Barnet (Fair) = hair


What's the origin of "drum", meaning "house/flat"?

Does anyone know the origin of the various animal names (eg pony, monkey) for
sums of money? (eg I think money is 500 pounds and pony is 25 pounds - but I
could well be wrong).

James Kew

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Feb 1, 1995, 5:26:34 AM2/1/95
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In article <D3A89...@oasis.icl.co.uk>, m...@oasis.icl.co.uk (Martin
Underwood) wrote:

> Huey (Green) = green (ie about to throw up) [Huey Green used to present
> "Opportunity Knocks"]

That's not rhyming slang, surely? What's the rhyme? No, it's onomatopoeic.
Reminds me of the Billy Connolly sketch about "calling on Huey... and
occasionally Ralph."

[Three years I've waited to use that word in a posting. My life is complete.]

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Ian Collier

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Feb 1, 1995, 1:15:52 PM2/1/95
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In article <D3A89...@oasis.icl.co.uk>, m...@oasis.icl.co.uk (Martin Underwood) wrote:
>Huey (Green) = green (ie about to throw up) [Huey Green used to present
> "Opportunity Knocks"]

Surely the word Huey is onomatopoeic and has nothing whatsoever to do with
Hughie Green or rhyming slang?!

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Alan (Fred) Pipes

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Feb 1, 1995, 2:40:52 PM2/1/95
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In article <D3A89...@oasis.icl.co.uk>, m...@oasis.icl.co.uk (Martin
Underwood) wrote:

> v113...@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu wrote:
> : More rhyming slang...

> Elephants (trunk) = drunk ("Fred was roaring elephants last night")

cheeky!

Don't forget gypsy's kiss = piss ("I'd love to list more examples, but
I'm dying for a gypy's!")

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Alan (Fred) Pipes

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Feb 1, 1995, 2:49:07 PM2/1/95
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> Don't forget gypsy's kiss = piss ("I'd love to list more examples, but
> I'm dying for a gypy's!")
>
that's better!!!

best Fools & Horses one is syrup
as in syrup of fig(s) = wig

creases me up every time!!!

Simon Thornton

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Feb 1, 1995, 3:29:17 PM2/1/95
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In article <pipes-01029...@line04.gunn-du.pavilion.co.uk>,

pi...@pavilion.co.uk (Alan (Fred) Pipes) wrote:

> > Don't forget gypsy's kiss = piss ("I'd love to list more examples, but
> > I'm dying for a gypy's!")
> >
> that's better!!!
>
> best Fools & Horses one is syrup
> as in syrup of fig(s) = wig
>
> creases me up every time!!!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I think you need to get out more, Fred...

Simon.

Robert Ramsay

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Feb 1, 1995, 4:05:07 PM2/1/95
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My own personal favourite for unpleasantness is "Giving her one up the
Gary"

Gary Glitter = well, I'll leave you to work it out

What a comedown. Once an internationally famous popstar, now a
rather unpleasant piece of rhyming slang. :-)

Also -

Hampton = Hampton Wick = dick (The Goons once had a character called
Hugh Jampton...)
Teddington = Teddington Lock = cock
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Alan (Fred) Pipes

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Feb 1, 1995, 5:08:34 PM2/1/95
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In article <simonth-0102...@line07.gunn-du.pavilion.co.uk>,
sim...@pavilion.co.uk (Simon Thornton) wrote:

It's all that Rosie Lee I've been drinking today
BTW this weather's a pain in the Khyber, ain't it just?

Alan (Fred) Pipes

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Feb 1, 1995, 7:33:10 PM2/1/95
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In article <j.kew-01029...@155.198.209.115>, j....@ic.ac.uk (James
Kew) wrote:

> In article <D3A89...@oasis.icl.co.uk>, m...@oasis.icl.co.uk (Martin
> Underwood) wrote:
>
> > Huey (Green) = green (ie about to throw up) [Huey Green used to present
> > "Opportunity Knocks"]
>
> That's not rhyming slang, surely? What's the rhyme? No, it's onomatopoeic.

But Russell Harty = party

how many rhyming slang things are based on TV personalities?
(we've already had Lionel Blairs = flairs ( or maybe they should be Tonys now))

Steve Phillips

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Feb 2, 1995, 6:05:47 AM2/2/95
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In article <5994...@uk.ac.ox.prg>, i...@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier) writes:
> In article <D3A89...@oasis.icl.co.uk>, m...@oasis.icl.co.uk (Martin Underwood) wrote:
>>Huey (Green) = green (ie about to throw up) [Huey Green used to present
>> "Opportunity Knocks"]
>
> Surely the word Huey is onomatopoeic and has nothing whatsoever to do with
> Hughie Green or rhyming slang?!

It seems to have come from an old Billy Connelly sketch (the one about
drinking two pints of creme de menthe). A lot of these supposed CRS slang
phrases are made-up. My whole family are from that part of London and there
are many they've never heard of (e.g. syrup of figs; they say it's "Irish"
as in Irish Jig).

Steve

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Ian Collier

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Feb 3, 1995, 8:45:37 AM2/3/95
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In article <pipes-02029...@line00.gunn-du.pavilion.co.uk>, pi...@pavilion.co.uk (Alan (Fred) Pipes) wrote:
>how many rhyming slang things are based on TV personalities?

doctor> What can I do for you today?
patient> I've got the Emmas......

Also, not rhyming slang, but an Archer is slang for 2000 (I think) pounds
in the City of London, because of the alleged event involving a brown paper
envelope and Victoria Station.

John Grove

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Feb 4, 1995, 11:25:17 AM2/4/95
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In article <pipes-01029...@line04.gunn-du.pavilion.co.uk>
pi...@pavilion.co.uk "Alan (Fred" writes:

:
: > Don't forget gypsy's kiss = piss ("I'd love to list more examples, but


: > I'm dying for a gypy's!")
: >
: that's better!!!

I always thought it was "Going fer a Jimmy", from Jimmy Riddle (Piddle).
Though I don't know the derivation, it's oft' quoted.

Let's 'av a bash at these regular cockney quotes (!):

1. 'Av a Deckers (look at)
2. Me ol' China (?)
3. Put yer Monica on this (signature on this)
4. Fly a Kite (get or give a loan)
5. Syrup (Wig, from Syrup of Figs)

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James Kew

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Feb 5, 1995, 10:03:42 AM2/5/95
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> Let's 'av a bash at these regular cockney quotes (!):
>

> 2. Me ol' China (?)

China plate / mate?

Brian Neal Ruth

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Feb 6, 1995, 3:47:51 AM2/6/95
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>best Fools & Horses one is syrup
>as in syrup of fig(s) = wig
>
>creases me up every time!!!

I know its not strictly rhyming slang, but I thought the best one from Only
Fools and Horses was Del's reference to a cement mixer as 'the Irish tumble
dryer'

Brilliant...

Brian.

Paul Rhodes

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Feb 6, 1995, 7:35:06 AM2/6/95
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>Let's 'av a bash at these regular cockney quotes (!):

> 3. Put yer Monica on this (signature on this)

Not rhyming slang: It's "moniker"
______________________________________________________paul....@liffe.com


Peter Bendall

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Feb 6, 1995, 9:26:04 AM2/6/95
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In <791915...@grovesey.demon.co.uk> Jo...@grovesey.demon.co.uk writes:

>
> Let's 'av a bash at these regular cockney quotes (!):
>
> 1. 'Av a Deckers (look at)

more like a version of the verb "dic" meaning exactly that - to look
at "dick the donah" - look at the lady. Anyone know the grammar?

> 2. Me ol' China (?)

China Plate = Mate

There's plenty of words in TV that seem to me to be more _theatre_ than cockney
although you hear them in Carry-on films and serials like AYBS.

Carsi (casa = house, -> littlest house -> s*house)
Parni (liquid equivalent of the above, "go for a parni")
Bevvi (pub, or alcoholic beverages consumed therein)
Denari (money - the "d" from l.s.d.)

(who turned that tap on ....)

Peter

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Ian Collier

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Feb 6, 1995, 10:22:10 AM2/6/95
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> 2. Me ol' China (?)

China plate = mate.

> 3. Put yer Monica on this (signature on this)

I think that's "moniker", but its origin is unknown.

John Grove

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Feb 6, 1995, 9:07:13 AM2/6/95
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In article <791915...@grovesey.demon.co.uk>
Jo...@grovesey.demon.co.uk "John Grove" writes:

: In article <pipes-01029...@line04.gunn-du.pavilion.co.uk>


: pi...@pavilion.co.uk "Alan (Fred" writes:
:
: :
: : > Don't forget gypsy's kiss = piss ("I'd love to list more examples, but
: : > I'm dying for a gypy's!")
: : >
: : that's better!!!
:
: I always thought it was "Going fer a Jimmy", from Jimmy Riddle (Piddle).
: Though I don't know the derivation, it's oft' quoted.
:
: Let's 'av a bash at these regular cockney quotes (!):
:
: 1. 'Av a Deckers (look at)

: 2. Me ol' China (Mate, as in China Plate)
: 3. Put yer Monica on this (signature on this)


: 4. Fly a Kite (get or give a loan)
: 5. Syrup (Wig, from Syrup of Figs)
:
: --
: John.
: jo...@grovesey.demon.uk.co
: Finchley LONDON UK
: ..........................................
: :Weather is Here, Wish you were Beautiful:
: :........................................:

:

Liam Cairney

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Feb 5, 1995, 8:48:04 PM2/5/95
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In article <pipes-02029...@line00.gunn-du.pavilion.co.uk>
pi...@pavilion.co.uk "Alan (Fred" writes:

> how many rhyming slang things are based on TV personalities?
> (we've already had Lionel Blairs = flairs ( or maybe they should be Tonys
> now))

The best is, of course, "Gareth Hunt"...

Liam.
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