AbFab: Helena Bonham-Carter
Christian Araujo
In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
explain this reference to me?
Chris Araujo
ara...@eden.rutgers.edu
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your lack of knowledge about Helena Bonham-Carter is readily
understandable. Actually, she is a movie actress, very pretty, who
starred in a couple of Merchant-Ivory movies (Room with a View and
Howard's End come to mind). She was also recently the love interest in
Kenneth Branagh's movie, Frankenstein. The reference to her in AbFab is
meant to convey that Saffy is a porcelein, Victorian goody-two-shoes,
since that is the type of character Bonham-Carter usually plays. The
actress herself is much more down-to-earth.
Tom Haapanen
ara...@eden.rutgers.edu (Christian Araujo) writes:
> In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
> dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
> "Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
> explain this reference to me?
She's a young (well, 28) British actress who plays mostly historical
dramas -- very little comedy up to now; her movie debut was the out-
standing Room with a View.
Here is her filmography from a combination of the Internet movie database
(point your Web browser to http://www.msstate.edu/Movies/) and Microsoft
Cinemania '95:
1983 A Pattern of Roses
1986 A Room with a View*
1986 Lady Jane (aka Queen Jane)
1987 The Vision
1987 Maurice*
1987 A Hazard of Hearts (TV)
1988 La Maschera
1989 Getting it Right
1989 Francesco
1990 Hamlet
1991 Where Angels Fear to Tread*
1992 Howards End*
1993 Fatal Deception: Mrs. Lee Harvey Oswald (TV)
1994 Mary Shelley's Frankenstein
* Based on a E.M. Forster novel
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K.V. Quinn
>From: ara...@eden.rutgers.edu (Christian Araujo)
>Subject: AbFab: Helena Bonham-Carter
>Date: 28 Feb 1995 17:20:35 -0500
>In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
>dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
>"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
>explain this reference to me?
She is almost type-cast these days as an edwardian young lady...she played
Elizabeth in Kenneth Branagh's version of "frankenstein", and all her roles
seem to involve her dressing up in big frocks with big hair. I suppose you
would be inferring that someone was a bit stuck up and boring/pompous if you
called them "Helena Bonham-Carter", although I can't abide AbFab so I've never
seen these references
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> ara...@eden.rutgers.edu (Christian Araujo) writes:
> > In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
> > dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
> > "Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
> > explain this reference to me?
>
> She's a young (well, 28) British actress who plays mostly historical
> dramas -- very little comedy up to now; her movie debut was the out-
> standing Room with a View.
<list of film credits deleted>
A few more TV appearances:
Arms and the man
Dancing queen (with Rik Mayall, comedy; she played a stripper)
a short dramatization of Beatrix Potter's life as a young girl
A dark adapted eye
The Gallery (a short, semi-silent film with Tony Robinson; she played a
pick-pocket)
a sketch with Jo Brand (UK stand-up comedian)
She's also used by Yardley in their cosmetic ads (both in print and on TV).
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Rob and Sandy Candioglos
>In article <3j07jj$t...@er6.rutgers.edu> ara...@eden.rutgers.edu (Christian Araujo) writes:
>>In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
>>dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
>>"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
>>explain this reference to me?
>She is almost type-cast these days as an edwardian young lady...she played
>Elizabeth in Kenneth Branagh's version of "frankenstein", and all her roles
>seem to involve her dressing up in big frocks with big hair. I suppose you
>would be inferring that someone was a bit stuck up and boring/pompous if you
>called them "Helena Bonham-Carter", although I can't abide AbFab so I've never
>seen these references
I've never seen AbFab, either (I read this group even though my cable company
sucks so bad, they don't provide CC), but Helena Bonham-Carter I do know a
little more about. She was also Ophelia in the recent version of Hamlet that
Mel Gibson was Hamlet in, and she was the main character in "Room With a View".
I thought she did an excellent job in Hamlet, but then, what do I know about
Shakespeare? :) I'm sure she's been in other things, too, but those are
the ones I remember.
-Sandy
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Simon
pha...@leeds.ac.uk (K.V. Quinn) wrote:
>In article <3j07jj$t...@er6.rutgers.edu> ara...@eden.rutgers.edu
(Christian Araujo) writes:
>>From: ara...@eden.rutgers.edu (Christian Araujo)
>>Subject: AbFab: Helena Bonham-Carter
>>Date: 28 Feb 1995 17:20:35 -0500
>>"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
explain this reference to me?
>
>She is almost type-cast these days as an edwardian young lady..
Almost, but fortunately not totally type-cast, as she proved very
nicely in Rik Mayall's "Dancing Queen", where she played a stripper.
Simon.
Chris Sampson
> A few more TV appearances:
>
> Arms and the man
> Dancing queen (with Rik Mayall, comedy; she played a stripper)
> a short dramatization of Beatrix Potter's life as a young girl
> A dark adapted eye
> The Gallery (a short, semi-silent film with Tony Robinson; she played a
> pick-pocket)
> a sketch with Jo Brand (UK stand-up comedian)
>
> She's also used by Yardley in their cosmetic ads (both in print and on TV).
She was also in a particularly inadequate episode of 'Miami Vice'
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Tina M. Croke
>> In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
>> dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
>> "Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
>> explain this reference to me?
Actually what it boils down to is the fact that Helena Bonham Carter
bears a striking resemblance to `Saffie'
Tina
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Lalaine Rosario So
: >In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
: >dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
: >"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
: >explain this reference to me?
: She is almost type-cast these days as an edwardian young lady...she played
: Elizabeth in Kenneth Branagh's version of "frankenstein", and all her roles
: seem to involve her dressing up in big frocks with big hair. I suppose you
: would be inferring that someone was a bit stuck up and boring/pompous if you
: called them "Helena Bonham-Carter", although I can't abide AbFab so I've never
: seen these references
: ********************************************************
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: Crunchy on the outside! Armadillos!"
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I always thought it was because whenever Helena Bonham-Carter gave any
interviews she always came across as somewhat of a "miss goody two shoes"
type of person, which is exactly what Saffy's character is.
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Bill Jennings
: : >In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
: : >dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
: : >"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
: : >explain this reference to me?
: : She is almost type-cast these days as an edwardian young lady...she played
: : Elizabeth in Kenneth Branagh's version of "frankenstein", and all her roles
: : seem to involve her dressing up in big frocks with big hair. I suppose you
: : would be inferring that someone was a bit stuck up and boring/pompous if
you
: : called them "Helena Bonham-Carter", although I can't abide AbFab so I've
never
: : seen these references
:
: I always thought it was because whenever Helena Bonham-Carter gave any
: interviews she always came across as somewhat of a "miss goody two shoes"
: type of person, which is exactly what Saffy's character is.
Actually, its because Helena B-C looks EXACTLY like Saffy.
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University of California, Berkeley
Harry S. Doyle
I think Helena Bonham-Carter was excellent in "Dancing Queen". It was
really interesting to see her play such a radically different role
than the costume drama roles she usually plays, and she acted very
convincingly in it.
Though of course I have to admit a certain bias due to seeing her
topless in the strip-tease scene! :-)
Harry.
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Yes, I agree, she was very good in "Dancing Queen"
Speaking as a Yorkie, she even made a good attempt at the accent.
One of my fave bits was when they were in the train together heading for
Scarborough and Rik realised he only had a one way ticket and she said in a
deadpan voice "Well, yer buggered then arn't yer " - excellent !
Steve_Grist
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>In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
>dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
>"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
>explain this reference to me?
>Chris Araujo
>ara...@eden.rutgers.edu
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Helena Bonham-Carter is an upper-class actress (or at least with upper-class
looks and accent), who was fantastic in "Room with a View". She's also done
other Merchant-Ivory stuff and was recently in Frankenstein.
She has the best hair *EVER*.
Steve
Liam Cairney
> Almost, but fortunately not totally type-cast, as she proved very
> nicely in Rik Mayall's "Dancing Queen", where she played a stripper.
The first Rik Mayall Presents, "Micky Love" was repeated after the
new three. Does anyone know if the other two from the first series
are due for a repeat? Particularly Dancing Queen, which was the
best of the lot to date.
Liam.
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Fiona Bennett
What about her performance in A Dark Adapted Eye. The Barbara Vine book
which hit the small screen Xmas 94. I thought she was OK and she even
managed to play a 14 year old girl.....to be quite honest she passed that
off better than being a)her real age and b) older.
There were som othr good actresses too...anyone remember who?
Fiona.
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Lee Nichols
> In article <3jpukm$l...@news.kth.se>, nv91...@oder.nada.kth.se (Gustav
Taxén) says:
> >
> >In <1995Mar04....@kuentos.guam.net> l...@kuentos.guam.net
(Lalaine Rosario So) writes:
> >
> >>: >In "Hospital", Helena Bonham-Carter plays the "Saffron" in Edina's
> >>: >dream. But in another episode, Patsy refers to Saffy in disgust as
> >>: >"Helena Bonham-Carter". Who *is* Helena Bonham-Carter? Can someone
> >>: >explain this reference to me?
> >
> >>: She is almost type-cast these days as an edwardian young lady...she
played
> >>: Elizabeth in Kenneth Branagh's version of "frankenstein", and all
her roles
> >>: seem to involve her dressing up in big frocks with big hair. I
suppose you
> >>: would be inferring that someone was a bit stuck up and boring/pompous if
> >>: you called them "Helena Bonham-Carter", although I can't abide AbFab so
> >>: I've never seen these references
> >>
> >>I always thought it was because whenever Helena Bonham-Carter gave any
> >>interviews she always came across as somewhat of a "miss goody two shoes"
> >>type of person, which is exactly what Saffy's character is.
> >
> >Helena Bonham Carter is indeed the quiet type, and often avoid questions
> >about her private life. Why she's been living with her parents until very
> >recently escapes me, but she goes to the clubs and pubs like any other normal
> >person - and detests being referred to as a "nice" actress always
dressed up in
> >period costumes. She's played Lee Harvey Oswald's Romainan wife in "Fatal
> >Deception", an eccentric lady Munday in "Getting It Right" (where her
> >character is introduced naked), a stripper in "Dancing Queen", she's been in
> >Miami Vice and if I remember correctly, she plays a prostitute in "Glace Bay
> >Miner's Museum". Lars von Trier's upcoming project will be set in present
> >time. Apparently, Helena tries to escape the "frouncy frocks" image she's
> >aquired over the years. Indeed, she had to be convinced by Kenneth
Brannagh to
> >appear in "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein", a role I suspect she'd rather have
> >avoided.
> >
> >For more information on Helena Bonham Carter, take a look at the Helena
Bonham
> >Carter WWW pages at URL:
> >
Mostly it's just because they look exactly alike!!!
> >http://www.nada.kth.se/~nv91-gta
> >
> >Regards,
> >Gustav
> >
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Adam Eccles
: In article <D5DzG...@news.gu.se>, y...@somehost.somedomain (Kalle Kula) wrote:
: > In article <3jpukm$l...@news.kth.se>, nv91...@oder.nada.kth.se (Gustav
Yeah thats it, finally someone got it, they look the same.There is another
girl who looks similar, I can't remember her name something like --- O'Neil,
or something, anybody know ? Adam:aeccles.demon.co.uk
: > >
: > >Regards,
: > >Gustav
: > >
: > >jass
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Andrew Nielsen
wrote:
>Is Dancing Queen a movie that can be found in your local video store? Or
>is it something more inaccessible?
Well, as someone who tried last night to find it in the local Video City,
the answer appears to be that it's more obscure than one might hope.
I'll keep looking.
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Liam Cairney
st91...@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> Is Dancing Queen a movie that can be found in your local video store? Or
> is it something more inaccessible?
It's an episode of the series Rik Mayall Presents, and was released
in the UK on video shortly after the series originally aired a couple
of years ago. Don't know about US availability, though.
Christine Moritz
: Lee Nichols (lee_n...@antiochsb.edu) wrote:
: : In article <D5DzG...@news.gu.se>, y...@somehost.somedomain (Kalle Kula) wrote:
: : > In article <3jpukm$l...@news.kth.se>, nv91...@oder.nada.kth.se (Gustav
: : Taxn) says:
: : > >
: : > >In <1995Mar04....@kuentos.guam.net> l...@kuentos.guam.net
: : (Lalaine Rosario So) writes:
[snip]
: : > >Helena Bonham Carter is indeed the quiet type, and often avoid questions
: : > >about her private life. Why she's been living with her parents until very
: : > >recently escapes me, but she goes to the clubs and pubs like any other normal
: : > >person - and detests being referred to as a "nice" actress always
: : dressed up in
: : > >period costumes. She's played Lee Harvey Oswald's Romainan wife in "Fatal
: : > >Deception",
Not to be too picky, but Lee Harvey Oswald's wife Marina was actually
Russian, not Romanian... He married her while he was in Russia in the
late 1950s. I believe conspiracy theorists point to the fact that he had
a relatively time getting back into the U.S. as an indication that he had
some secret links to the U.S. government.
: : > >an eccentric lady Munday in "Getting It Right" (where her
jsto...@delphi.com
I couldn't agree more. I am a big fan of AbFab and never paid any attention
to who played Saffron until I saw "Frankenstein". I turned to my sister
and said "Hey, I think that's Saffy!"
Jeff Stotsky
jsto...@delphi.com