>I was watching the BBC videos of The Young Ones with some friends and
It's just part of the surrealism of the show. No other reason--IMHO, of
course! :)
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I doubt if the Beeb even noticed. I remember a few years ago the
Spiitin' Image team got a b*llocking in the national press for using
the techniques which is supposidly illegal (subliminal advertising ?).
They actually displayed a page of text ripping someone or something
apart but I can't remember whom.
David Tucker
Was it Spitting Image that superimposed the head of either Norris
McWhirter or his brother onto a picture of a naked woman for a couple of
frames?
If not who was it? I do seem to remember someone getting a bollocking
for it...
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I seem to remember seeing one in TIME ,when it was last shown on Beeb 2. I
think it was a sail off a yacht. I don't ever remember seeing the flashes when
it was first broadcast, I used to record them on video and would remember if I
had ever seen them. I did think that they had been added after so that when
they were shown on Beeb 2 again no-one would video them, or if they did they
would get the flashes and think, "bollocks, that's really annoying" and then
they would go out and buy the videos. I'm probably totally wrong.
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>In article: <3a7fsc$b...@nof.abdn.ac.uk> u01...@nof.abdn.ac.uk (u01orb) writes:
>> I was watching the BBC videos of The Young Ones with some friends and noticed
>> that every so often there are screen flashes. After spending some time with the
>> Freeze Frame we discovered pictures of a frog, a skier and a dove. The dove and
>> frog were in Sick and the skier was in Cash. We think they may have something to
>> do with the dialogue that follows, but wondered if there is any reason for them
>> other than that, who is respnosible for them and why the BBC let them do it.
The Young Ones' production team were responsible for the screen flashes, which
were an elaborate joke: the idea was that there was some hidden meaning to
them taken all together (ie the joke was spread across the whole series). It
was covered in the press at the time.
>I doubt if the Beeb even noticed. I remember a few years ago the
>Spiitin' Image team got a b*llocking in the national press for using
>the techniques which is supposidly illegal (subliminal advertising ?).
Screen flashes like those in TYO or Spitting Image are not "subliminal" (if
they were, you wouldn't have noticed them!). That's why they were allowed to
do it.
In article <CzF48...@festival.ed.ac.uk>
d...@festival.ed.ac.uk (David E Newton) writes:>Was it Spitting Image that
superimposed the head of either Norris>McWhirter or his brother onto a picture
of a naked woman for a couple of>frames?
Yes it was. I think McWhirter sued them for it.
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In article: <3a7fsc$b...@nof.abdn.ac.uk> u01...@nof.abdn.ac.uk (u01orb) writes:
>
> I was watching the BBC videos of The Young Ones with some friends and noticed
> that every so often there are screen flashes. After spending some time with the
> Freeze Frame we discovered pictures of a frog, a skier and a dove. The dove and
> frog were in Sick and the skier was in Cash. We think they may have something to
> do with the dialogue that follows, but wondered if there is any reason for them
> other than that, who is respnosible for them and why the BBC let them do it.
>
> Owen Billcliffe
>
>
There's also one of a potters wheel but I don't remember in which one
Gareth
PS: if you are going to start an alt.joolz.and.sandi's.legs, can I join?
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS INDEEEDY DO!
I'm having trouble with the group configure at the mo, so just to
keep us going for now I setting up a listserver mail list -
More news soon. Eddibaby :->
PS You sure you're not just a little bit welsh???
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My mate said that to my mother 3 years ago. He still hasn't recovered from the
ear-bashing she gave him. Send an SAE and I will enclose full genetic samples
Certe Toto, sentio nos in Kansate no iam adesse
Ah the benefits of a Latin education!
Gareth
Shite name, 100% Yorkshire. Born & Bred
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>In article <689869...@telstar.demon.co.uk> tuc...@telstar.demon.co.uk (David Tucker) writes:
>>I doubt if the Beeb even noticed. I remember a few years ago the
>>Spiitin' Image team got a b*llocking in the national press for using
>>the techniques which is supposidly illegal (subliminal advertising ?).
>Screen flashes like those in TYO or Spitting Image are not "subliminal" (if
>they were, you wouldn't have noticed them!). That's why they were allowed to
>do it.
There was a minimum time for a flash frame laid down by the IBA (I guess it is
still upheld by the ITC). If a flash frame lasts less than the specified time
then complaints will result in action being taken against the TV company
involved.
>In article <CzF48...@festival.ed.ac.uk>
>d...@festival.ed.ac.uk (David E Newton) writes:>Was it Spitting Image that
>superimposed the head of either Norris>McWhirter or his brother onto a picture
>of a naked woman for a couple of>frames?
>Yes it was. I think McWhirter sued them for it.
There is a book called "Tooth and Claw, the Inside Story of Spitting Image"
that details this whole story.
Andy
> In article <785429...@antigrav.demon.co.uk> J_E
> dgar_...@antigrav.demon.co.uk (Eddibaby) writes:
>
> PS You sure you're not just a little bit welsh???
>
> ,-----------------------------------------------------.
> | Hey Toto; I don't think we're in Kansas any more. |
> | J_Edgar...@antigrav.demon.co.uk |
> `-----------------------------------------------------'
> My mate said that to my mother 3 years ago. He still hasn't recovered from the
> ear-bashing she gave him. Send an SAE and I will enclose full genetic samples
Oooh errr - I think I feel another newgroup coming on:
alt.binaries.dna.sequences.evidence.defence
> Certe Toto, sentio nos in Kansate no iam adesse
>
Nice one. If you do the rest of the film I'll certainly come and watch it!
>Shite name, 100% Yorkshire. Born & Bred
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SNAP!!!! And very proud of it too... Better than Oldham...(please
don't flame me about this. The person it is aimed at knows who he is!)
love and whippets
Joolz
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Yeah. Mine stops at 'Quantum est ille canis in fenestra?'.
I don't suppose you know of anyone who runs evening classes? (London area)
I really need the business vocabulary, in particular; thinking of working
in Gaul, may as well go for the lingua franca.
> Gareth
> Shite name, 100% Yorkshire. Born & Bred
Nothing wrong with being English and having a Welsh name.
Nickey Davies
100% Isleworth, born and bred.
and needing a lie-down
> In article <GME.94No...@jupiter.alt.usage.english>,
> Gareth Mark Evans <g...@jupiter.alt.usage.english> wrote:
>
> >Shite name, 100% Yorkshire. Born & Bred
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> SNAP!!!! And very proud of it too... Better than Oldham...(please
> don't flame me about this. The person it is aimed at knows who he is!)
>
> love and whippets
>
What, no ferrets?
Eddibaby (Average sort of name, 100% Middlesex born & bred.)
AC
> In article <1994Dec1.0...@csc.canberra.edu.au>,
> Andrew Clarke <a...@libserver.canberra.edu.au> wrote:
> >And I thought this thread was about Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick.
>
> Eh????
> Explanation please
It refers to the classic radio show "Round The Horne" -- one of the runnng
sketches featured Sandy and Julian, two amazingly camp characters.
Can someone else fill in more? My dad has a few of the tapes but it's been
a while since I heard them; I remember bing amazed by just how much
innuendo they'd managed to sneak in...
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> In article <3bn6o6$jh2@cc_sysk.coventry.ac.uk>,
> cei...@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl) wrote:
>
> > In article <1994Dec1.0...@csc.canberra.edu.au>,
> > Andrew Clarke <a...@libserver.canberra.edu.au> wrote:
> > >And I thought this thread was about Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick.
> >
> > Eh????
> > Explanation please
>
> It refers to the classic radio show "Round The Horne" -- one of the runnng
> sketches featured Sandy and Julian, two amazingly camp characters.
>
> Can someone else fill in more? My dad has a few of the tapes but it's been
> a while since I heard them; I remember bing amazed by just how much
> innuendo they'd managed to sneak in...
Probably the funniest programme ever broadcast on radio, and still very
popular in the USA, I'm led to believe. There should be something on it
in the BritCom Digest.
Scripted by Barry Took and Marty Feldman*. Starring Kenneth Horne*,
Kenneth Williams*, Hugh Paddick, Betty Marsden, Bill Pertwee and
Douglas Smith*. * = Now dead.
Williams and Paddick played a couple of 'gay' out-of-work actors "filling in
between engagements" - they were called Julian and Sandy and sketches would
start with Kenneth Horne ordering domestics or entering a law firm or a dating
agency. Then Paddick would say "Hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy"
and they would continue in an *extremely* camp, lewd, bawdy and suggestive
manner for the rest of the sketch.
Some of the characters Ken Williams played also warrant a mention. There was
Rambling Syd Rumpo, a country bumpkin who would come on and sing 'folk songs'
where half the words were made up but sounded very rude and hence were
totally hilarious.
My favourite was J. Peasmould Gruntfuttock ("My father was a Grunt from the
Rotherhide Grunts and my mother was an Oxton Futtock"), a completely 'ordinary'
man who would assume exhalted titles every week, such as Archbishop or King
Gruntfuttock III of Peasmouldia, etc.
AFAIK the BBC Radio Collection sells six double-cassettes (24 half-hour episodes).
Yours off-to-look-for-his-round-the-horne-tapes
Andy.
>> It refers to the classic radio show "Round The Horne" -- one of the runnng
>> sketches featured Sandy and Julian, two amazingly camp characters.
>Probably the funniest programme ever broadcast on radio, and still very
>popular in the USA, I'm led to believe. There should be something on it
>in the BritCom Digest.
The BBC World Service also repeated some of them earlier this year (oh, about
April/May I should think) which went out on Wednesdays 6.30 CET.
I had some of them on tape, but, alas, haven't anymore...
Yours trying to think of what I can buy people for Xmas pressies
Before your time:-
" 'Ello I'm Jules and this is my friend Sandeey - Ooo 'ello mister 'Orne!"
Round the Horne, Saturday lunchtime, Light Programme. Joolz & Sandi
(errm..sp) appeared in every episode, running some enterprise or other
that was patronised by Kenneth Horne. I know they did a hairdresser
('course), but ISTR there was a building company as well, amongst others.
Out-ness, in its day.
I didn't get this for years, because I didn't realise that men could be
lesbians too. Or something. Well, that was my thinking, anyway.
> love and marketing seminar vibes
I always sympathise with these love & things. You have to do some shit
stuff.
> Joolz
>
Nickey
> > It refers to the classic radio show "Round The Horne" -- one of the runnng
> > sketches featured Sandy and Julian, two amazingly camp characters.
>
> Williams and Paddick played a couple of 'gay' out-of-work actors "filling in
> between engagements" - they were called Julian and Sandy and sketches would
> start with Kenneth Horne ordering domestics or entering a law firm or a dating
> agency. Then Paddick would say "Hello, I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy"
> and they would continue in an *extremely* camp, lewd, bawdy and suggestive
> manner for the rest of the sketch.
Ah yes but they also talked using an argot called "Polari" which was the
secret language of the gay community - this was why they kept coming up
with things like "Ooh Mr'Orne 'ow lovely to vada yer eek again."
> My favourite was J. Peasmould Gruntfuttock
Note also Doctor Chu En Ginsberg - Japanese Master Spy (played with
increasing resentment by Kenneth Williams) and those two darlings of the
thirties stage and screen Dame Cecelia Molestrangler and Binkie Huckaback.
Happy days - round the Horne used to be on the radion on a Sunday Lunchtime
and the sound of Rambling Sid Rumpo dangling his cordwangles-o is
in extricably linked with the sight of my Dad carving the Sunday joint and the
smell of Mum's gravy and Yorkshire pud.
Kate
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>
>Ken and Hugh as Julian and Sandy made regular appearances in Round the Horne
>(many volumes of which available on cassette, of course, as is a Julian and
>Sandy compilation - BBC catalogue no ZBBC 1415).
>
>
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>Paul Rhodes (paul....@liffe.com - accept no substitutes)
> [My opinions not Liffe's]
That's right: Jules & Sand of "Bona Prods", the Cecil Bs of the 16 de Mille.
And how bona to vada your jolly old eek again --
Andrew C.
>The BBC World Service also repeated some of them earlier this year (oh, about
>April/May I should think) which went out on Wednesdays 6.30 CET.
Is the World service actually receivable in the UK? (World...I guess it must
be, somewhere...)
>Yours trying to think of what I can buy people for Xmas pressies
Well, I'd like a 31" colour TV with NICAM, Dolby Pro-logic, and, and.... :-)
Brian.
Brian Ruth (b.r...@ucl.ac.uk)
>> > >And I thought this thread was about Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddick.
>Williams and Paddick played a couple of 'gay' out-of-work actors "filling in
>between engagements" -
Hugh Paddick, if you thought you'd never seen him,
was one of the two restoration ACTORS in Blackadder
the Third.
"ngohhhhhHHHH, To be or not to be!"
Davo,
Not mentioning "MacBeth" oh damn! Now I have to take the curse off it.....
>> love and marketing seminar vibes
>I always sympathise with these love & things. You have to do some shit
>stuff.
Thank you midear... We EBATters will mention you in our prayers tonight
for your sypathetic understanding...
Just a quick moan about the amount of work (nothing to do with TV, I just
wanna get it out of my system...)
Tues - German
Thurs - Body Shop report
Mon - 303Man coursework
Tues - German coursework + marketing exam
Thurs - 308Man work on report
Fri - International Business report
And probably sommat else I've forgotten and will fail... :-(
I don;t feel any better for getting that out of my system at all... :-(
love and completely fed up vibes
Actually, Polari (Parlare?) was actually used by theatricals rather than
by the gay community, albeit the two did tend to coincide in the days of
Noel Coward, Binky Beaumont, Ivor Novello and so on. It seems to contain
a mixture of dog Italian (vada < vedere = to see) Latin (bona = good)
backslang (riah = hair) and a lot of inexplicable (?) words like "latty" =
house, "eek" = face, "lallies" = arms (or is it legs?).
Jules (Hugh Paddick) was the sensitive artiste with a broken heart. I
think the love of his life was called Gerald, but they definitely met in
Tangier.
Their predecessors in Eric Merriman's Beyond Our Ken were the prissy (but
not overtly gay) couple Rodney and Charles. More overt was Merriman's
superb satire of wet English musical comedy in a BOK piece called"Follow
That Salad" (Follow That Dream/Salad Days) in which Paddick played the
author Julian Wilson (Julian Slade/Sandy Wilson) and Williams the leading
man. From the audience reaction, there was a good deal of camping up in
the studio invisible to the listeners. It culminated in the lover duet
between the leading lady (who won the part in a raffle) and the not very
masculine leading man, entitled "That's What You Do To Me"
You're the ripples in a stream, you're a tin of clotted cream,
You're the teabag in a pot of tea,
You're a piano played by Russ, you're a No. 13 bus,
Yes, that's what you are to me ...
You're a breath of spring, a Ming, a thing
To cherish every day,
You're a lucky charm, a chicken farm,
You're a load of new-mown hay,
You're the winner of the fight,
You're the stuff that washes white,
You're a frogman underneath the sea,
(He) You're a pint of old-and-mild
(She) You're both films on Oscar Wilde ...
(Both) Yes, that's what you are to me, my darling,
That's what you are to me.
Andrew Clarke
Institut fur Funftzigsforschungen Frankfurt
> In article <19941203....@raffle.demon.co.uk>
> and...@raffle.demon.co.uk "Andrew Raffle" writes:
>
<--- much snipping --->
> > My favourite was J. Peasmould Gruntfuttock
>
> Note also Doctor Chu En Ginsberg - Japanese Master Spy (played with
> increasing resentment by Kenneth Williams) and those two darlings of the
> thirties stage and screen Dame Cecelia Molestrangler and Binkie Huckaback.
>
> Happy days - round the Horne used to be on the radion on a Sunday Lunchtime
> and the sound of Rambling Sid Rumpo dangling his cordwangles-o is
> in extricably linked with the sight of my Dad carving the Sunday joint and the
> smell of Mum's gravy and Yorkshire pud.
>
> Kate
Yes, I toyed with the idea of typing all the characters in, but suddenly I was
overtaken by an urge to dig my RTH tapes out and play them all again.
Infinitely more fun.
Andy
I was always quite taken by Dr Chu En Ginsburg's lovely assistant, Lotus
Blossom (as played by Hugh Padick), and the various parts played by the
announcer (Roger Greenslade?) which culminated in him playing the whole
of the Earth, years before Orson Wells got to play the part of a planet
in some animated film.
ROTFL
> Hugh Paddick, if you thought you'd never seen him,
> was one of the two restoration ACTORS in Blackadder
> the Third.
>
> "ngohhhhhHHHH, To be or not to be!"
>
> Davo,
> Not mentioning "MacBeth" oh damn! Now I have to take the curse off it.....
Cue endless discussion on "what exactly do the actors recite when they
hear Macbeth"...
Surely, the announcer was the bona Douglas Smith. You're
getting confused with The Goon Show and Wallace Greenslade. Such
confusion indicates a completely nurdled posett and a cordwangle
in need of wattling, me deario.
Chris
ObTV How come Robert Lindsay never has any problems with Mercury
One-to-One unlike the rest of the poor saps who use it?
Actually, I believe Parlare was primarily gay, rather than primarily
"theatrical" (and some might argue that the two tend to coincide even
today). It's one of the reasons why so much of Parlare pertains to the
face and body: it basically allowed gay men to discuss things
extremely discreetly. One can still hear it used in the more
provincial gay circles in England (or perhaps I'm merely betraying my
age).
Although the origin of some of it does seem quite obscure, I recall
that "eek" is simply a contraction of ecaf (which is, of course, face
spelled backwards), and lallies are legs. I also recall "pots in the
cupboard" (teeth), naff (commonplace), nantois (bad) packet or carts
(the groin area) and dish (rump). I'm sure there are more I've
forgotten.
Although there is "The Queen's Vernacular" which documents gay North
American slang usage, Parlare seems sadly underdocumented, and I
expect it to disappear completely quite soon. The politically
excruciatingly correct will claim it was a badge of oppression and say
good riddance to it, but I will mourn its passing.
Cheers,
__
Lol
> Just a quick moan about the amount of work (nothing to do with TV, I just
> wanna get it out of my system...)
>
> Tues - German
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> Thurs - Body Shop report
> Mon - 303Man coursework
> Tues - German coursework + marketing exam
> Thurs - 308Man work on report
> Fri - International Business report
Ah ha! This explains all the free Euro-hols you keep having.
Love & fresh german neutrinos, Colin.
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>> Tues - German
>Ah ha! This explains all the free Euro-hols you keep having.
One, one free Euro-hol...
And whilst on my year out in Germany, I was meant to be studying...
Btw, you haven't voted in the Brittas Empire poll yet, though judging
by one of your posts I think I know who you'll vote for...
love and schwenzen vibes
I just found a copy in W. H. Smith's in Newbury :-))) ...
...but it immediately got taken away from me 'cos someone thought it
would make a good Christmas present for me :-(((
Guess I'll just have to wait.
> In article <787354...@antigrav.demon.co.uk>,
> Mad Scientist <ru...@antigrav.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Tues - German
>
> >Ah ha! This explains all the free Euro-hols you keep having.
>
> One, one free Euro-hol...
>
> And whilst on my year out in Germany, I was meant to be studying...
~~~~~
Know what you mean nudge-nudge.
>
> Btw, you haven't voted in the Brittas Empire poll yet, though judging
> by one of your posts I think I know who you'll vote for...
...well yes. Imagine waking up Yuletide morning and finding JSJ in a
stocking at the end of you bed - phew!
Love & stuff, Colin.
>...well yes. Imagine waking up Yuletide morning and finding JSJ in a
>stocking at the end of you bed - phew!
So that's a vote for "the lovely" JSJ then...
love and doughnuts
> love and doughnuts
>
Love and office parties with things on sticks and being away from the Net
for a week and being dragged 'round to all sorts of "friends" and relatives
and having to make intelligent conversation and eat their home-made mince
pies and Christmas puddings and no Judy Garland films on the box (oops, what
a give-away) and no snow and NOT finding TLJSJ in my stocking...oh, humbug!!!
Kissie-kissie, happy Yuletide,