Red Triangle films on Channel 4
Scott Gilhooly
in the mid eighties there were a series of films on Channel 4 preceded
by a red triangle warning. I remember watching these as a teenager,
admittedly, on the off chance of something dirty but being surprised that
some of the films were actually very good. of course now I don't remember
any of the names except "Pixote". What I'm after is a list of the films
that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature perspective!
Anyone know where I can find one??
Thanks
Scott
Mark Whitaker
On 19 Sep 1997 15:00:15 GMT, "Scott Gilhooly"
<scott.g...@micromass.co.uk> wrote:
Nice try, Scott, you little devil you!
;)
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Scott Gilhooly
Mark Whitaker <mark.w...@ncl.ac.uk> wrote in article
<3426085e.746107@news>...
> > some of the films were actually very good. of course now I don't
remember
> > any of the names except "Pixote". What I'm after is a list of the films
> > that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature
perspective!
> >
> > Anyone know where I can find one??
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott
>
> Nice try, Scott, you little devil you!
Hey, I'm serious!!!
I don't remember but I was told that "Out of the blue" and "Ai No Corrida"
were
among them. I'd just like to know what films I've actually seen even if I
am
unlikely to ever (legally) see them again.
I should point I was after the LIST not copies of the films themselves
as that would be illegal and I am as honest as t'day is long.
Scott
Simon Coward
On 19 Sep 1997 15:00:15 GMT, "Scott Gilhooly" <scott.g...@micromass.co.uk> wrote:
>in the mid eighties there were a series of films on Channel 4 preceded
>by a red triangle warning.
>What I'm after is a list of the films
>that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature perspective!
The only title I can remember is of what I think was the first one to be shown - it was called
"Themroc".
Simon
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Scott Gilhooly
Simon Coward <si...@invisible.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<34282a81...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> On 19 Sep 1997 15:00:15 GMT, "Scott Gilhooly"
<scott.g...@micromass.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >in the mid eighties there were a series of films on Channel 4 preceded
> >by a red triangle warning.
>
> >What I'm after is a list of the films
> >that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature
perspective!
>
> The only title I can remember is of what I think was the first one to be
shown - it was called
> "Themroc".
>
> Simon
thanks. I seem to remember the first one being in French and involving a
man bricking himself and his daughter into the front room of their flat,
then
knocking out the front wall for some reason.
strange what you remember.
Also, a couple of Japanese(?) ones, one about a couple who lived in a house
at the
bottom of a pit ( ai no corrida???) and one which involved a girl who
carried a rabbit
everywhere and ended with a nuclear explosion.
Anyone else???
Scott
William HamBevan
Scott Gilhooly (scott.g...@micromass.co.uk) wrote:
: Simon Coward <si...@invisible.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
: <34282a81...@news.demon.co.uk>...
: > On 19 Sep 1997 15:00:15 GMT, "Scott Gilhooly"
: <scott.g...@micromass.co.uk> wrote:
: >
: > >in the mid eighties there were a series of films on Channel 4 preceded
: > >by a red triangle warning.
: >
: > >What I'm after is a list of the films
: > >that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature
: perspective!
'The Clinic' was one: an American comedy set in a VD clinic. The
pull-quote for the film was 'Even the laughter is contagious!'
I recall that it was fairly awful.
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Simon Coward
On 24 Sep 1997 10:38:36 GMT, "Scott Gilhooly" <scott.g...@micromass.co.uk> wrote:
>Simon Coward <si...@invisible.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
>> The only title I can remember is of what I think was the first one to be
>>shown - it was called "Themroc".
>thanks. I seem to remember the first one being in French and involving a
>man bricking himself and his daughter into the front room of their flat,
>then knocking out the front wall for some reason.
I think eating a policeman was involved too (?) - but yep, the one you describe was "Themroc".
Ian Foulsham
>thanks. I seem to remember the first one being in French and involving a
>man bricking himself and his daughter into the front room of their flat,
>then
>knocking out the front wall for some reason.
>strange what you remember.
>
>Also, a couple of Japanese(?) ones, one about a couple who lived in a house
>at the
>bottom of a pit ( ai no corrida???) and one which involved a girl who
>carried a rabbit
>everywhere and ended with a nuclear explosion.
television, although it has an 18 in the cinema now. Ai No Corida
involves obsessional love between 2 Japanese in th 20's (I think) and
was monumentally explicit.
I remember that the Swedish film 'Montenegro' was shown, but I fell
asleep.
Although I plead for clemency as these were shown late on a Friday night
in 1986/7 and I had only just got back from the pub most times.
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Scott Gilhooly
Ian Foulsham <IanFo...@bluchip.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<fMsv4GAu...@bluchip.demon.co.uk>...
> >
> >Also, a couple of Japanese(?) ones, one about a couple who lived in a
house
> >at the
> >bottom of a pit ( ai no corrida???) and one which involved a girl who
> >carried a rabbit
> >everywhere and ended with a nuclear explosion.
> That is not Ai No Corida which will probably never be shown on UK
> television, although it has an 18 in the cinema now. Ai No Corida
> involves obsessional love between 2 Japanese in th 20's (I think) and
> was monumentally explicit.
apparently so. I only mentioned it as someone else told me it had been
shown as
part of the series. Admittedly I thought it was unlikely but still....
> I remember that the Swedish film 'Montenegro' was shown, but I fell
> asleep.
I'll look up the plot and see if it rings any bells.
> Although I plead for clemency as these were shown late on a Friday night
> in 1986/7 and I had only just got back from the pub most times.
uh
huhhh
thats nearly as good as my "i was only a pubescent teenager
and didnt know any better" excuse...=)
and i wasn't trying to make you feel old.
to be fair though, it was a brave move on Channel 4s part and,
on a personal level, made me realise there was more to films
than Dirty Harry (erm...probably an unfortunate choice, that).
Given the choice between staying up late to watch that kind
of "dirty" obsucre arty films and watching a
split-over-the-news-and-cut-to-shreds Bruce Willis "epic",
i know which way Im leaning
Anyone know dates when they were on ( are those years about right??)
and I could try scanning the newspapers from the time?
(Mental Note: Must Get Out More....sigh)
Scott
P.S. if any one is interested the list so far is :-
Pixote
Out of the blue
Montenegro
Themroc
The Clinic
Chris Muskett
Scott Gilhooly (scott.g...@micromass.co.uk) wrote:
Snippety snip
:
: P.S. if any one is interested the list so far is :-
: Pixote
: Out of the blue
: Montenegro
: Themroc
: The Clinic
I think that there was a french film in this series called Bof, which
involved an unusual relationship between this bloke, his wife and his Dad.
One classic scene has man and wife at the dinner table, she asks him what
he wants for pudding, he says the usual, and so she stands on a chair and
pops his head up her skirt.
Incidentally The Clinic was mentioned in another post as being an American
film, when in fact it was an Australian/New Zealand effort.
I also remember a couple of scenes from films in this series, but dont
know what films they were from:
A turkish guy walking around with a knife embedded in his forehead ( a
later scene has him showing off his scar after the knife was removed).
A sexy latino woman dancing in some strip joint naked whilst some guy
drives around a radio controlled tank with a dildo mounted on the gun! The
dance ended with the woman taking pleasure from the tank (off camera) to
much applause.
Its amazing the things you remember about watching the telly when youre
supposed to be in bed.
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Damian Hurley
Ping!!! Da-daaaa!!
Whew! back again......
Not sure of the title - probably something like Debbie Does Dallas or
Boycott Does Barnsley etc..
Damian.
>
> Shame about your link going down, I hope you get it up!
>
> What was it called?
>
>
Damian Hurley
I do recall (Gideon Soames voice if poss.) one of them being a spendid
adaptation of the late Viceroy Wilheim Buggeration III's novel which dealt
primarily with the exploits of Carmen D'Angelo who pondered with much
merriment and not a small degree of pain on whether the simple old English
cricket bat would prove more of a satisfaction that her inept lover at the
time who although prodigious in size and had an eye-wartering girth
couldn't get the proverbial stonker even if he'd been involved in a
poptastic sexcapade of epic proportions involving the entire female cast of
Friends, Pans People, Angela Rippon, the lead singer out of the Bangles,
and even sgh.ss.fkx ;oaelr?G t///NFGX///XN???XHNcG?Mh/?AEr?...
Andrew Boulton
In article <01bcc8d5$901696c0$153e82c2@cashmorep>, Scott Gilhooly wrote:
> hanks. I seem to remember the first one being in French and involving a
> man bricking himself and his daughter into the front room of their flat,
> then
> knocking out the front wall for some reason.
>
>
> Also, a couple of Japanese(?) ones, one about a couple who lived in a house
> at the
> bottom of a pit ( ai no corrida???) and one which involved a girl who
> carried a rabbit
> everywhere and ended with a nuclear explosion.
>
Wasn't 'Jubilee' in there too?
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Jon McInnes
Damian Hurley <Damian...@charnwood.gb.astra.com> wrote in article
<01bcca9c$3f30c140$5439...@2IT766.charnwood.gb.astra.com>...
Shame about your link going down, I hope you get it up!
What was it called?
NickJVC
THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
19/09/86 Themroc (1972 - "Invented Language")
03/10/86 Pastoral Hide-and-See (1974 - Japanese)
10/10/86 Throw Away Your Books; Let's Go Into the Streets (1971 -
Japanese, TV Version)
17/10/86 Identification of a Woman (1982 - Italian/French)
24/10/86 Pixote (1981 - Brazilian)
31/10/86 The Clinic (1982 - Australian)
14/11/86 Montenegro, or: Pigs and Pearls (1981 - Swedeish/British, with a
Yugoslavian director!)
28/11/86 No Mercy, No Future (1981 - West German)
10/01/87 Out of the Blue (1980 - American)
17/01/87 The Wall (1983 - Turkish)
"Red Triangle" is actually a bit of a misnomer - it was a white triangle
with red edging. The offical C4 term was Special Discretion Required, or DSR.
Nick Cooper
["The truth is rarely pure and never simple. Modern life would be very
tedious if it were either, and modern literature a complete impossibility"
- Wilde]
Scott Gilhooly
NickJVC <nic...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970928191...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
>
> Nick Cooper
> ["The truth is rarely pure and never simple. Modern life would be very
> tedious if it were either, and modern literature a complete
impossibility"
> - Wilde]
oooooo you WONDERFUL human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now the question is HOW and WHERE did you get that list???????
Scott
Andrew Wiseman
NickJVC wrote:
>
> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
Wasn't Sebastien (sp?) also part of this season and wasn't this also the
only time an erect penis has been shown on UKTV?
Andrew
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NickJVC
In article <01bcccb9$b160d2e0$153e82c2@cashmorep>, "Scott Gilhooly"
<scott.g...@micromass.co.uk> writes:
>NickJVC <nic...@aol.com> wrote in article
><19970928191...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
>> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
>>
>> Nick Cooper
>> ["The truth is rarely pure and never simple. Modern life would be very
>> tedious if it were either, and modern literature a complete
>impossibility"
>> - Wilde]
>
>oooooo you WONDERFUL human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Now the question is HOW and WHERE did you get that list???????
If I answer that question, I'll become known as "that bloke who has every
'TV' & 'Radio Times' since 1984" :-)
NickJVC
In article <342FBB27...@dircon.co.uk>, Andrew Wiseman
<ba...@dircon.co.uk> writes:
>NickJVC wrote:
>>
>> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
>[list snipped]
>
>Wasn't Sebastien (sp?) also part of this season and wasn't this also the
>only time an erect penis has been shown on UKTV?
No, that was screened as part of C4's 'Banned' season in 1991 and more
recently after Derek Jarman died. In both cases the film was cropped, so
the stiffy wasn't present. What did cause the furore was that there was a
documentary in the 'Banned' season, during which Jarman explained the
background to the shot in question. Basically, when it was shown to the
BBFC it was at a ratio that cut this particular detail off the bottom of
the screen - it was passed with an X certificate (similar to a US R)
because they didn't know it was there! During this interview, however, the
full scene was playing on a screen behind Jarman, so the erection was
visible, albeit slightly blurred, but it was obvious enough to suggest that
the only people who would complain were blokes who'd feel a bit inadequate
in comparison!
Steve Phillips
> >NickJVC wrote:
> >>
> >> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
> >[list snipped]
> >
> >Wasn't Sebastien (sp?) also part of this season and wasn't this also the
> >only time an erect penis has been shown on UKTV?
>
> from the film, but appeared on a television screen in the background of
> a debate about the film with Derek Jarmann (sp?) IIRC.
Quite correct. In the original showing of the film, they got round the
problem by simply zooming-in a bit on the appropriate frames in their
telecine, thus moving the "member" off the bottom of the screen.
The documentary which *did* show the scene was one about
sex-in-the-cinema in general. Ch4 got a rapping from the ITC for it
because they showed it at 9pm during the Christmas holiday season. The
other curious thing about this was that it showed Jim Ferman visibly
getting upset whilst watching cut scenes from "Deathwish" in his office,
claiming in a next-to-tears voice "this is very difficult to watch".
Steve
Scott Gilhooly
NickJVC <nic...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970929221...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> >
> >oooooo you WONDERFUL human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >Now the question is HOW and WHERE did you get that list???????
>
> If I answer that question, I'll become known as "that bloke who has every
> 'TV' & 'Radio Times' since 1984" :-)
>
ouch.
But then I'm going to be "that pervy bloke who wanted the list
of dodgy films" =)
I have to ask though...WHY do you have all them???
Just to make you feel less sad ( well, than me at any rate) is there
an online archive of the aforementioned magazines????
Scott
Keith Topping
NickJVC <nic...@aol.com> writes
>>> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
>'TV' & 'Radio Times' since 1984" :-)
Cooper, that's *sad* even by your standard!!!
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Gary Jones
In article <EH476...@fsa.bris.ac.uk>, Chris Muskett
<gl...@zeus.bris.ac.uk> wrote
>
>I also remember a couple of scenes from films in this series, but dont
>know what films they were from:
>
>A turkish guy walking around with a knife embedded in his forehead
>A sexy latino woman dancing in some strip joint naked whilst some guy
>drives around a radio controlled tank with a dildo mounted on the gun!
Both scenes were from "Montenegro".
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NickJVC
In article <bf$BBjBwl...@tooon.demon.co.uk>, Keith Topping
<ke...@tooon.demon.co.uk> writes:
Hey, you never complained when you wanted to check something in the past!
Keith Topping
NickJVC <nic...@aol.com> writes
>>Wasn't Sebastien (sp?) also part of this season and wasn't this also the
>>only time an erect penis has been shown on UKTV?
>recently after Derek Jarman died. In both cases the film was cropped, so
>the stiffy wasn't present. What did cause the furore was that there was a
>documentary in the 'Banned' season, during which Jarman explained the
>background to the shot in question. Basically, when it was shown to the
>BBFC it was at a ratio that cut this particular detail off the bottom of
>the screen - it was passed with an X certificate (similar to a US R)
>because they didn't know it was there! During this interview, however, the
>full scene was playing on a screen behind Jarman, so the erection was
>visible, albeit slightly blurred, but it was obvious enough to suggest that
>the only people who would complain were blokes who'd feel a bit inadequate
>in comparison!
--
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Paul Shields
On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:13:04 +0100, Keith Topping
<ke...@tooon.demon.co.uk> shared the following with us all:
>NickJVC <nic...@aol.com> writes
>>>> THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
>>If I answer that question, I'll become known as "that bloke who has every
>>'TV' & 'Radio Times' since 1984" :-)
>
>Cooper, that's *sad* even by your standard!!!
What he doesn't mention is that he's only missing the July 7th - 14th
issue of TV Times from 84 and he'll have the lot.
:)
Paul
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Mad Scientist
In article <19970928191...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, that bloke
who has every TV & Radio Times since 1984 <nic...@aol.com> writes
>THAT LIST OF DODGY CHANNEL 4 "RED TRIANGLE" FILMS IN FULL (MAYBE):
>03/10/86 Pastoral Hide-and-See (1974 - Japanese)
>10/10/86 Throw Away Your Books; Let's Go Into the Streets (1971 -
>Japanese, TV Version)
>17/10/86 Identification of a Woman (1982 - Italian/French)
>24/10/86 Pixote (1981 - Brazilian)
>31/10/86 The Clinic (1982 - Australian)
>14/11/86 Montenegro, or: Pigs and Pearls (1981 - Swedeish/British, with a
>Yugoslavian director!)
>28/11/86 No Mercy, No Future (1981 - West German)
>10/01/87 Out of the Blue (1980 - American)
>17/01/87 The Wall (1983 - Turkish)
Which one was it where a bunch of people reverted to a sort of
Neanderthal mentality and took over the third floor of some flats to
'build a nest' - throwing lots of rocks at riot police in the process?
(Very strange but fun cinima.)
Prof.
Keith Topping
Mad Scientist <ru...@spamdeath.org> writes
Themroc... quite a laugh that one, I thought...
--
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Gary Jones
In article <$Jq6jBA0...@127.0.0.1>, Mad Scientist
<ru...@spamdeath.org> wrote
>
>Which one was it where a bunch of people reverted to a sort of
>Neanderthal mentality and took over the third floor of some flats to
>'build a nest' - throwing lots of rocks at riot police in the process?
Themroc. (I think.)
NickJVC
>In article <19970928191...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, that bloke
>who has every TV & Radio Times since 1984 <nic...@aol.com> writes
Bah!
Richard Augood
Keith Topping wrote in reponse to a response to Nick Cooper:
> >>28/11/86 No Mercy, No Future (1981 - West German)
Was this the one with the deranged girl who thought that Christ had
returned and wanted to have sex with him? (cue: sex with paraplegics in
lifts during firework displays, sex with enormous black convicts on
sheets drenched in blood)
If so, I'm glad I now know its name so I can give it a very wide berth
in future.
You're right about "Themroc" though. Great fun.
Richard.
janet
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> in the mid eighties there were a series of films on Channel 4 preceded
> by a red triangle warning. I remember watching these as a teenager,
> admittedly, on the off chance of something dirty but being surprised that
> some of the films were actually very good. of course now I don't remember
> any of the names except "Pixote". What I'm after is a list of the films
> that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature perspective!
>
> Anyone know where I can find one??
>
> Thanks
> Scott
I remember Montenegro and maybe themroc- I was 17 at the time in 1986 - one of which I though was in 1986 may have been later and that was the French movie BOF
which some one has mentioned on here,,
my question is though there was another movie I saw - don't remember if it was 1986 red triangle movie or later on in the 90's - it was in black and white Russian/german?? set during wartime - some scenes involved a female having sex with a much older guy on a settee getting pregnant she later on befriends a younger man who ends up thinking the child is is, another scene involves soldiers searching houses for enemies and another sex scene takes place with a local woman - this film has bugged me for years - anyone any ideas
may have been a 1986 red triangle or part of another series later on - also remember Bergmans virgin spring - maybe around the same time as that
many thanks
melha...@gmail.com
Thanks people.
Regards
Mel
Stuart Herkes
> in the mid eighties there were a series of films on Channel 4 preceded
> by a red triangle warning. I remember watching these as a teenager,
> admittedly, on the off chance of something dirty but being surprised that
> some of the films were actually very good. of course now I don't remember
> any of the names except "Pixote". What I'm after is a list of the films
> that were on so I can try to see them again with a more mature perspective!
> Anyone know where I can find one??
> Thanks
> Scott
Thermroc 1973
Pastrol hide & seek 1974
Throw away your books, rally in the streets 1971
Identification of a woman 1982
Pixote 1981
The Clinic 1982
montenegro or Pis & pearls 1981
Die beruta 1981
Out of the blue 1980 (directed by Dennis hopper)
The Wall 1983
hope this helps!