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Peter Thomas

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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For some bizarre reason, some collegues of mine (me included) are
having an argument about what T.I.S.W.A.S. stood for.

Suggestion #1:

Today
Is
Saturday
Watch
And
Smile

Suggestion #2:

Today
Is
Saturday
Wear
A
Smile


At first, I went for suggestion 1. Until someone pointed out that the
video box says the second one.

Now someone is saying the video makers got it wrong.

Anyone got any ideas to this?

Oh, and it was a fantastic programme, btw!

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Darren Meldrum

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Peter Thomas wrote on Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:52:14 GMT:

>Now someone is saying the video makers got it wrong.

>Anyone got any ideas to this?

>Oh, and it was a fantastic programme, btw!

DejaNews is your friend. I'd rather we didn't open up this long debate
again.

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Dave Porter

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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In article <890344373.20393.4...@news.demon.co.uk>,
pe...@prodge.demon.co.ukSPAMSTILLSUXX (Peter Thomas) wrote:

>For some bizarre reason, some collegues of mine (me included) are
>having an argument about what T.I.S.W.A.S. stood for.

<Snip>

>Suggestion #2:
>
>Today
>Is
>Saturday
>Wear
>A
>Smile

Suggestion #2 is correct.

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Andrew Wiseman

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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Dave Porter wrote:
>
> In article <890344373.20393.4...@news.demon.co.uk>,
> pe...@prodge.demon.co.ukSPAMSTILLSUXX (Peter Thomas) wrote:
>
> >For some bizarre reason, some collegues of mine (me included) are
> >having an argument about what T.I.S.W.A.S. stood for.
>
> <Snip>
>
> >Suggestion #2:
> >
> >Today
> >Is
> >Saturday
> >Wear
> >A
> >Smile
>
> Suggestion #2 is correct.

No it isn't.

I grew up in the Midlands and watched Tiswas from its humble beginnings
when it wasn't available anywhere else on the ITV Network. One year at
the Ideal Home Exhibtion at the NEC, there was a Tiswas stand where
Peter Tomlinson signed my Tiswas poster magazine. My dad also bought me
a Tiswas T-shirt which had the old logo in the middle encircled by the
words: "TODAY IS SATURDAY WATCH AND SMILE".

No other answers are acceptable :-)

Andrew

an...@adavids.demon.co.uk

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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In article <890344373.20393.4...@news.demon.co.uk>,

pe...@prodge.demon.co.ukJUSTREMOVETHIS wrote:
>
> For some bizarre reason, some collegues of mine (me included) are
> having an argument about what T.I.S.W.A.S. stood for.
>
> Suggestion #1:
>
> Today
> Is
> Saturday
> Watch
> And
> Smile

I always thought this one was correct.

Andy

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Rob Burridge

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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Changing the subject slightly, I too am having a disagreement with work
collegues.
Anyone remember a clip from ' It'll be alright on the night' where the
little girl is doing a report on the Grand Prix but actually says 'Grand
PRICKS' instead.
I say it was from Tiswas, my collegues say it was 'Why don't you'.
Any idea who's right?
Thanks
Rob

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47 Group

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>Changing the subject slightly, I too am having a disagreement with work
>collegues.
>Anyone remember a clip from ' It'll be alright on the night' where the
>little girl is doing a report on the Grand Prix but actually says 'Grand
>PRICKS' instead.
>I say it was from Tiswas, my collegues say it was 'Why don't you'.
>Any idea who's right?
>Thanks
>Rob

Neither of you :) - The girl was Susan "Michelle" Tully, the prog was
"Our Show", a saturday morning kids strand made by LWT circa about 1978,
hence this clip is often dragged out of the LWT archives along with
Denis Norden. It had the same live TX / kids in studio audience format,
though the most exuberance they were allowed to show was clapping like
drugged sealions at a Sunday School music morning.

"Our Show" was also [briefly] shown in some other ITV regions in place
of Tiswas, mostly due to middle englander parents complaining that
Tiswas encouraged irresponsible behaviour, presumably by causing their
dogs to gob at people and their West Indian neighbours to wear silly
hats and eat condensed milk sandwiches.

IIRC Today is Saturday, Watch and Suffer was also an acceptable acronym
by Tarrants time on the show - some of the kids in the audience had this
written on their signs.

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Dave Porter

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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In article <35126611...@base.org>,
Andrew Wiseman <6...@base.org> wrote:

>I grew up in the Midlands and watched Tiswas from its humble beginnings
>when it wasn't available anywhere else on the ITV Network. One year at
>the Ideal Home Exhibtion at the NEC, there was a Tiswas stand where
>Peter Tomlinson signed my Tiswas poster magazine. My dad also bought me
>a Tiswas T-shirt which had the old logo in the middle encircled by the
>words: "TODAY IS SATURDAY WATCH AND SMILE".
>
>No other answers are acceptable :-)

Okay Andrew, obviously you're correct. I have never heard that before, I
have always understood that it was "Today Is Saturday, Wear A Smile". Can't
argue with a T Shirt though can I.

jon.crane1

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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As far as I can recall, suggestion 1 is correct.
Regards
Jon


C.M.Woods

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In article <B1389A2C9...@wcbs.demon.co.uk>, Dave Porter
<da...@wcbs.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <35126611...@base.org>,
>Andrew Wiseman <6...@base.org> wrote:
>
>>I grew up in the Midlands and watched Tiswas from its humble beginnings
>>when it wasn't available anywhere else on the ITV Network. One year at
>>the Ideal Home Exhibtion at the NEC, there was a Tiswas stand where
>>Peter Tomlinson signed my Tiswas poster magazine. My dad also bought me
>>a Tiswas T-shirt which had the old logo in the middle encircled by the
>>words: "TODAY IS SATURDAY WATCH AND SMILE".
>>
>>No other answers are acceptable :-)
>
>Okay Andrew, obviously you're correct. I have never heard that before, I
>have always understood that it was "Today Is Saturday, Wear A Smile". Can't
>argue with a T Shirt though can I.
>
Thought it was This is Shite, Watch another show..... :)
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Ben Coffer

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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In article <sbH2iEAF...@rsm6.demon.co.uk>, 47 Group
<47...@rsm6.ratcotel.net> writes

>Denis Norden. It had the same live TX / kids in studio audience format,

TX!!!??? TX!!??? I thought *i* was the only one who remember *that*!!!
Can you remember who presented it?

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Tim Matthews

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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In article <35157f73...@news.dial.pipex.com>,
mike.p...@dial.pipex.com (Mike Plowman) wrote:

> Actually, the name Melissa Wilkes has just popped into my head and I
> have a feeling it was something like that.

Could be right. It was Fay from Grange Hill, Zamo's girlfriend.

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Tim Matthews

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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In article <3512d...@newsread1.dircon.co.uk>, "Rob Burridge"

<r...@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Changing the subject slightly, I too am having a disagreement with work
> collegues.

Changing the subject not so slightly, I too am having a disagreement with work collegues.

Somebody is swearing blind that the janitor's name was actually Penry, not Henry. But I'm not so sure.

Cathie Holtman

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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In article <na.3d6b75482...@argonet.co.uk>,

Tim Matthews <ti...@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <35157f73...@news.dial.pipex.com>,
> mike.p...@dial.pipex.com (Mike Plowman) wrote:
>
> > Actually, the name Melissa Wilkes has just popped into my head and I
> > have a feeling it was something like that.

> Could be right. It was Fay from Grange Hill, Zamo's girlfriend.

No ... Fay was played by Alison Bettles. Zammo's girlfriend was Jackie
Wright.

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Peter Mandelson

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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TISWAS can stand for many things. Arguing which came first is a
bit pointless. The name "TISWAS" came before all the acronyms
anyway. It even stood for "Tarrant Is Supreme - Work And Shut-up!"
at one point, amongst the crew (jokingly, of course).

Yep, Melissa Wilkes, not Sue Tully. And Our Show, a poor TISWAS
replacement from Southern in the late '70s.

Yep, Penry Pooch. The poor sound quality on Hanna Barbera cartoons
may have caused the confusion.

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Rob Burridge

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Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
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I've got Hong Kong Phooey on an old 8mm cine film. Just got it out of the
loft and played it and the name's definitely Henry.
Rob

Simon Thornton wrote in message <1d69a1u.1qgcv9i

>
>And, yet again, this is one of those tv-newsgroup threads that often go
>on for ages for no real reason. There's a video available, in fact
>there's *2* videos available for HKP : a long compilation and a shorter
>"series" tape, so it's easy enough to check up on.
>
>Simon.

Ben Fisher

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Mar 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/22/98
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Andrew Wiseman wrote:

[snip]


> > Suggestion #2 is correct.
>
> No it isn't.
>

> I grew up in the Midlands and watched Tiswas from its humble beginnings
> when it wasn't available anywhere else on the ITV Network. One year at
> the Ideal Home Exhibtion at the NEC, there was a Tiswas stand where
> Peter Tomlinson signed my Tiswas poster magazine. My dad also bought me
> a Tiswas T-shirt which had the old logo in the middle encircled by the
> words: "TODAY IS SATURDAY WATCH AND SMILE".
>
> No other answers are acceptable :-)

Spot on - apart from, in detail, the "humble beginnings" bit. On the
very first show, on New Year's Day 1974, John Asher (where he now? who
knows? who cares?) explained that the show's title was because he was
"all in a tiswas". No acronym mentioned in the earliest shows AFAIR
(showing age plus pointless gift for remembering useless detail), before
it found its stride and dropped elements such as the oh-so-hilarious
conversations with Telecine 3. If you don't remember him, you weren't
there at the start...

Ben Fisher

Cathie Holtman

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Sue

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47 Group wrote:
> >Anyone remember a clip from ' It'll be alright on the night' where the
> >little girl is doing a report on the Grand Prix but actually says 'Grand
> >PRICKS' instead.
> >I say it was from Tiswas, my collegues say it was 'Why don't you'.
> >Any idea who's right?

> Neither of you :) - The girl was Susan "Michelle" Tully, the prog was


> "Our Show", a saturday morning kids strand made by LWT circa about 1978,


No it wasn't. It was Melissa Wilkes (aka Jackie Wright, Zammo's
girlfriend in Grange Hill) and the programme it came from was 'Saturday
Banana'.

Sue.

Calum Benson

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Rob Burridge wrote:

> I've got Hong Kong Phooey on an old 8mm cine film. Just got it out of the
> loft and played it and the name's definitely Henry.

It quite clearly says 'Penry' on the cover of my HKP video...

Slainte,
Calum.

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Neil Brown

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Mar 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/23/98
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: > I've got Hong Kong Phooey on an old 8mm cine film. Just got it out of the

: > loft and played it and the name's definitely Henry.

: It quite clearly says 'Penry' on the cover of my HKP video...

I've got a T-shirt that says 'Penry' though my recollection of the
cartoon was that his name was 'Henry'.

I have a funny feeling this has already been done to death on various
NGs.

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Damien Cahill

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Ben Coffer remembered something about his childhood and has shared it with
this NG


> TX!!!??? TX!!??? I thought *i* was the only one who remember *that*!!!
> Can you remember who presented it?

If this was broadcast around 1985 on Saturday mornings before No. 73 was
the norm back then, then the male main presenter was one... Tony Slattery,
yes him! Can't help with the others, he just stood out!
As far as I remember, it only lasted one series, when Sandi Toksvig and
Neil Bucannan became the staple Saturday morning fare.

Damo.

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Peter Thomas

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"Damien Cahill" <nilspam-...@iol.ie> wrote:

>> TX!!!??? TX!!??? I thought *i* was the only one who remember *that*!!!
>> Can you remember who presented it?
>If this was broadcast around 1985 on Saturday mornings before No. 73 was
>the norm back then, then the male main presenter was one... Tony Slattery,
>yes him! Can't help with the others, he just stood out!

Sue Robbie was probably in there. (Granada jobby, so it's compulsory,
I guess.. [cf Connections; First Post, etc])

Local weirdo Frank Sidebottom also had numerous guest appearances.

>As far as I remember, it only lasted one series, when Sandi Toksvig and
>Neil Bucannan became the staple Saturday morning fare.

One series, all done by Granada, except for the sub-game-show thing
(Knock Your Block Off) which was done for them by Central in
Birmingham.

I know TX clashed with Saturday Superstore on BBC1. I think it took
over Central's reign of saturday morning kid's programming. (Tiswas >
Saturday Show > Saturday Starship).

Multi-ITV-produced Get Fresh took over TX's short lived slot, I guess.

Ah, doesn't the current stuff really suck these days? Scratchy & Co,
Tricky, Mashed, etc. Cheapo tat.

Ben Coffer

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In article <01bd5696$bf9d92a0$LocalHost@default>, Damien Cahill
<nilspam-...@iol.ie> writes

>Ben Coffer remembered something about his childhood and has shared it with
>this NG
>
>> TX!!!??? TX!!??? I thought *i* was the only one who remember *that*!!!
>> Can you remember who presented it?
>
>If this was broadcast around 1985 on Saturday mornings before No. 73 was
>the norm back then, then the male main presenter was one... Tony Slattery,
>yes him! Can't help with the others, he just stood out!
>As far as I remember, it only lasted one series, when Sandi Toksvig and
>Neil Bucannan became the staple Saturday morning fare.

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT!!!!!! How bloody weird is that??? I thought i was
going utterly insane with false memory syndrome, when i tried to
remember who presented it i kept getting images of tony slattery in
my mind....and i thought: surely not....but thank god someone else can
confirm it was true....how weird is that? Getting Tony Slattery to
present a childrens tv series?

Ben Coffer

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Mar 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/24/98
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In article <890695194.6116.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, Peter
Thomas <pe...@prodge.demon.co.ukSPAMSTILLSUXX> writes

>Multi-ITV-produced Get Fresh took over TX's short lived slot, I guess.

Was that with Gaz Top? :) They used to play some weird competition
where two people would see who could get the most points on Starglider
(on the atari?)...i used to wish i'd be able to go on that show just
so that i could whip everyone's arses coz i knew how to destroy the
main starglider (getting about 5000 points) within a minute's worth of
gameplay...(no-one in the series used to get more than about 200-300
points i seem to remember).

Peter Thomas

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Ben Coffer <b...@hybridgame.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>Multi-ITV-produced Get Fresh took over TX's short lived slot, I guess.
>Was that with Gaz Top? :)

Yep, and Charlotte Hindle (later on BBC's Clockwise), Gilbert The
Alien (played by Phil Cornwell of
Alan-Partridge-obsessive-fanatic-'mentalist' fame) and part-timer Gian
Sammarco (from Adrian Mole).

>They used to play some weird competition
>where two people would see who could get the most points on Starglider

Get Mucky.

>(on the atari?)...

I think it might have been the Sega Master System, actually. But I'm
not sure. Anyway, the next season had them playing Xenon.

(btw, the Tiswas acronym question did spring up in a computer emulator
newsgroup (comp.sys.sinclair), so I personally find this quite
ironic.)

>i used to wish i'd be able to go on that show just
>so that i could whip everyone's arses coz i knew how to destroy the
>main starglider (getting about 5000 points) within a minute's worth of
>gameplay...(no-one in the series used to get more than about 200-300
>points i seem to remember).

I had a mate who used to play Get Mucky at home with his brothers and
sisters on his ZX Spectrum, 'cos he had Starglider for it. And the
'gunging' for any losers was executed via a jug of
shampoo/toothpaste/shaving-foam mixture.

What a popular kid he wasn't. :)

Paul Rhodes

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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pe...@prodge.demon.co.ukSPAMSTILLSUXX (Peter Thomas) wrote:

>(played by Phil Cornwell of Alan-Partridge-obsessive-fanatic-'mentalist' fame)

Or indeed Comic Strip fame, Glam Metal Detectives fame, Stella Street
fame...

Paul

Peter Thomas

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paul....@liffe.com (Paul Rhodes) wrote:

>>(played by Phil Cornwell of Alan-Partridge-obsessive-fanatic-'mentalist' fame)
>Or indeed Comic Strip fame, Glam Metal Detectives fame, Stella Street
>fame...

I wouldn't consider the *dire* Glam Metal Detectives to have any fame
whatsoever. :)

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It was not miss Tully but a girl called Melissa Wilkes

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