Brass Eye
Alan Mockler
Brass Eye:- simply magnificent. Haven't laughed so hard since the day today.
Let's hope it can keep it's momentum. And that C4 don't edit it too heavily.
Alan.
Mad Scientist
In article <32f1d5ff...@192.168.2.1>, Mike Henry <mi...@tw2.com>
writes
>now only 5 programmes of 30 mins each (including adverts), I make that a
>whole hour's worth of footage which has been cut.
>
>That has to be heavy editing in anyone's book.
>
I think that we should press for an out-takes video :-)
BTW I actually felt quite sorry for poor Jilly; am I too soft?
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In article <Nq8mLKAI...@antigrav.demon.co.uk>, Mad Scientist
<ru...@spamdeath.org> writes
>BTW I actually felt quite sorry for poor Jilly; am I too soft?
I think that Oliver Skeet was the only innocent victim. However, because
he isn't a pretentious git, but only a slightly dim normal(ish) person,
he only appeared slightly dim in the gag. That's the beauty of Brass
Eye. People are only caught out to the extent of their self love.
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>I think that Oliver Skeet was the only innocent victim. However, because
>he isn't a pretentious git, but only a slightly dim normal(ish) person,
>he only appeared slightly dim in the gag. >
Am I right in thinking that he hired dear old Maxie Clifford a few
years back to hype up his showjumping career? If so, I think Mr Skeet
may be a bit of a 'publicity user'.
Elvis Presley
In article <32f77246.12995309@news>, Pete Bowman
<10633...@compuserve.com> writes
>Am I right in thinking that he hired dear old Maxie Clifford a few
>years back to hype up his showjumping career? If so, I think Mr Skeet
>may be a bit of a 'publicity user'.
He certainly is. A couple of months ago he appeared in Superbike
magazine in a feature where he swopped mounts with one of the
journalists. (ie Skeet got his knee down and pulled wheelies on his
Honda CBR900RR in jodphurs and cork hat whilst the journo jumped Skeets
horse whilst wearing full leathers and crash helmet.)
Still, simply being a publicity user doesn't *necessarily* make one a
bad person. (Not that I'm particularly inclined to defend Skeet, I think
he, like everyone else, got what he deserved from Chris Morris. My point
was that the fact that he wasn't made to look *too* pathetic might
indicate that he isn't.)
David Patrick
Mad Scientist <ru...@spamdeath.org> wrote:
>In article <32f1d5ff...@192.168.2.1>, Mike Henry <mi...@tw2.com>
>writes
>>On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:46:10 GMT, moc...@prl.research.philips.com (Alan
>>Mockler) wrote:
>>>Brass Eye:- simply magnificent. Haven't laughed so hard since the day today.
>>>Let's hope it can keep it's momentum. And that C4 don't edit it too heavily.
>>
>>Erm, well seeing as it was going to be 6 programmes of 35 mins each, but is
>>now only 5 programmes of 30 mins each (including adverts), I make that a
>>whole hour's worth of footage which has been cut.
>>
>>That has to be heavy editing in anyone's book.
>>
>I think that we should press for an out-takes video :-)
According to Channel 4 there are SIX episodes. They were saying five
episodes, now it's back up to six.
>BTW I actually felt quite sorry for poor Jilly; am I too soft?
Yes, way too soft. She deserved it for being so bloody stupid.
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Elvis Presley
In article <32f77f4...@news.demon.co.uk>, David Patrick
<da...@alberon.demon.co.uk> writes
>According to Channel 4 there are SIX episodes. They were saying five
>episodes, now it's back up to six.
And "Cake" was last night which was the one I thought they weren't going
to show. I didn't think it ws quite as good as the animal rights one
though. The MP they conned seemed pretty genuine and wasn't pretending
to be an expert at all. I did like the way they got them to call it a
made up drug.
Taking the piss out of the actual dealers was good though.
Darren Meldrum
On Thu, 06 Feb 1997 09:51:50 -0800, Susan Ward <sw...@scigen.co.uk>
wrote:
>I missed the first half of the programme (which I suspect was probably
>funny, coz the tail end that I saw reminded me of 'The Day Today') but
>saw all the stuff about 'Cake'.
Then you missed the most ironic part:
> But if it's just an excuse for watching
>famous people make fools of themselves, well then this is just a
>victim-unfriendly version of the Gotchas on Noel's House Party, and I've
>laughed more at those than I think I ever would at these set ups on Brass
>Eye. Chris Morris is Noel Edmonds in disguise and I claim my five pounds!
Which was Noel Edmonds making his very sincere to camera piece about
Cake.
I agree that picking on soft targets like Rolf Harris wasn't
particularly brave. Picking on politicians is however very valid, as
it shows that with a bit of lobbying, or in this case the opportunity
to appear on camera, politicians will do anything, talk about anything
and ask questions in parliament about subjects on which they have no
knowledge whatsoever.
It puts the recent Gallagher comments about drugs and politicians into
perspective, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
--
Darren Meldrum (mel...@dial.pipex.com)
http://ds.dial.pipex.com/meldrum/
some bloke
> According to Channel 4 there are SIX episodes. They were saying five
> episodes, now it's back up to six.
Yes. Yes. Yes. If it's true, then that has just made my year. Words
cannot describe how simply excellent last night's episode was...
MC
some bloke
> And "Cake" was last night which was the one I thought they weren't going
> to show. I didn't think it ws quite as good as the animal rights one
> though. The MP they conned seemed pretty genuine and wasn't pretending
> to be an expert at all. I did like the way they got them to call it a
> made up drug.
David Amess is the MP for Basildon. I have lived in Basildon for 13
years, and can tell you that Mr. Amess is the slimiest most unpleasant
man to have ever walked the face of the earth. His Larynx is probably
incaple of forming the word 'genuine' let alone him being genuine. He
fell for it hook, line and sinker and desrves everything he gets. Yes!
I'm off now. I'm having an outbreak of 'Czech Neck'.
MC
some bloke
It would be that the only voice of dissent I have read so far has
been from a woman. Typical. There they go, feeling sorry for the anally
retentive stars that made complete arses of themselves for the benefit of
the viewing public. I think they deserve everything they get...
MC
some bloke
> > It puts the recent Gallagher comments about drugs and politicians into
> > perspective, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
>
>
> Anyway, all that said, it still wasn't very _funny_ was it?
Infidel! It was indescribably hilarious. I swear that every single person
in our TV room had tears in their eyes by the end. I laughed so much it
hurt. I think it is possibly the funniest thing I have ever seen...
But as you say, we are all entitled to an opinion (except David Amess).
MC
Elvis Presley
In article <32FA1A...@scigen.co.uk>, Susan Ward <sw...@scigen.co.uk>
writes
>I'm sorry, but I can't see what all the
>fuss has been about. Having 'celebrities' and MPs reading pre-prepared
>statements on a fake drug which we all know is fake but they (at the
>time) didn't - where's the joke? Admittedly I was left wondering why they
>hadn't twigged (particularly when they started to read the obviously
>preposterous ingredient names). But if it's just an excuse for watching
>victim-unfriendly version of the Gotchas on Noel's House Party
I agree with you there. The 1st episode got celebs to make arses of
themselves by saying things that were completely preposterous and could
be identified as such by any earth dweller. The cake thing otoh was all
too believable and did indeed put the victim in a "Gotcha" type
situation where they really had little option but to believe it.
Elvis Presley
In article <32f9ca92...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Darren Meldrum
<mel...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>Picking on politicians is however very valid, as
>it shows that with a bit of lobbying, or in this case the opportunity
>to appear on camera, politicians will do anything, talk about anything
>and ask questions in parliament about subjects on which they have no
>knowledge whatsoever.
>
>It puts the recent Gallagher comments about drugs and politicians into
>perspective, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
But why should they know about drugs? Just because Gallagher does know
about them doesn't stop him being a witless moron.
Andrew Fovargue
>statements on a fake drug which we all know is fake but they (at the
>time) didn't - where's the joke?
Noel Edmonds saying -
'Cake effects the Shatner's Bassoon, the bit of the brain which does
time perception - sounds like fun. But it wasn't fun for the Czech boy
who was run over by a tram, he thought he had 1000 hours to cross the
road'
t'was the funniest thing I've heard for ages.
I laughed and laughed and laughed.
Andy
.... Never put off till tomorrow anything which can be put off
until the day after that.
Trevor (Not Trevor)
>I missed the first half of the programme (which I suspect was probably
>funny, coz the tail end that I saw reminded me of 'The Day Today') but
>fuss has been about.
About the huge chunk they edited out, probably. [anyone have an
approximation of the length? Seemed very short..]
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Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970206143909.6326D-100000@teaching7>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
>Yes. Yes. Yes. If it's true, then that has just made my year. Words
>cannot describe how simply excellent last night's episode was...
Seems to have gone down well with the druggie student types anyway.
Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970206144711.6326F-100000@teaching7>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
I am not a woman. (Although I do have powerful breasts)
Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970206144247.6326E-100000@teaching7>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
>He
>fell for it hook, line and sinker and desrves everything he gets.
So do most gotcha victims but that doesn't make them funny.
DuncanRV
I agree re MP for Basildon.
Last nights episode was pure genius, especially the 1970s documentary and
the "Shatners Basoon" Hah Edmonds got you at last.
Felt a teeny bit sorry for Rolf "kids and water - they love it" Harris but
not for the others. Good to see Bruno Brookes get pulled up.
How they didn't twig something was wrong re the FUKT (or whatever it was
called) name I'll never know.
Still proves that they never watched The Day Today (shades of the
brilliant "speak your brain")
They probably think that Alan Partridge is real as well!!
Cheers
Duncan
ps - now remember... take care, and I really do mean that!
Tony Hindle
>>
>Surely that's the whole point of asking questions?
>
>>It puts the recent Gallagher comments about drugs and politicians into
>>perspective, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
>
>But why should they know about drugs? Just because Gallagher does know
>about them doesn't stop him being a witless moron
I must admit I was a bit wary when chris was pestering the drug
dealers with stupid questions. I asumed at first that they would just
pop him in the back of the head with a bullet. Ah but that just goes to
show that even the most sceptical of us start to believe that all drug
dealers are evil murderers if we are bombarded with such propoganda for
long enough.
In fact I thought the drug dealer's responses to chris showed
that he was just another person on the street eeking out a living as
best he can.
" they say pot makes you unmotivated..LIE.....
when your high you can do anything you can do
when your straight,...
It's just that when you are high you realise...
it aint worth the fuckin effort
(there IS a difference)". ...Bill Hicks, worlds funniest comedian
(although even he died in february 1994)".....The Reverend. C. Darwin .
Brian Duguid
Elvis Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <32f9ca92...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Darren Meldrum
><mel...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>Picking on politicians is however very valid, as
>>it shows that with a bit of lobbying, or in this case the opportunity
>>to appear on camera, politicians will do anything, talk about anything
>>and ask questions in parliament about subjects on which they have no
>>knowledge whatsoever.
>>
>Surely that's the whole point of asking questions?
What appears to have been omitted from the programme is the fact that
not only did Amess ask the question in the House, but that he received
replies from two government ministers, one of whom stated that the
government was already dealing with the cake menace. Frankly, that's a
scandal.
Brian Duguid brian....@mottmac.com
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Ray McNaughton
In article <aqjXI4AH...@presley.demon.co.uk>, Elvis Presley
<el...@presley.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <32f9ca92...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Darren Meldrum
><mel...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>Picking on politicians is however very valid, as
>>it shows that with a bit of lobbying, or in this case the opportunity
>>to appear on camera, politicians will do anything, talk about anything
>>and ask questions in parliament about subjects on which they have no
>>knowledge whatsoever.
>>
>Surely that's the whole point of asking questions?
>
ask them like "why is the Government not banning this terrible drug
called cake?", while pretending to know all about it themselves.
>>It puts the recent Gallagher comments about drugs and politicians into
>>perspective, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.
>
>But why should they know about drugs? Just because Gallagher does know
>about them doesn't stop him being a witless moron.
--
Ray McNaughton
(England)
Ray McNaughton
>
>Yes, way too soft. She deserved it for being so bloody stupid.
And for not knowing who Christopher Morris is!
One problem with this type of humour is that presumably people won't be
taken in another time, so it would make a second series difficult.
--
Ray McNaughton
(England)
Elvis Presley
In article <X2PfJAAR...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
> In fact I thought the drug dealer's responses to chris showed
>that he was just another person on the street eeking out a living as
>best he can.
So are pimps and child pornographers I would think.
JOHN OSHEA
<cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk>' wrote:
> It would be that the only voice of dissent I have read so far has
>been from a woman. Typical. There they go, feeling sorry for the anally
>retentive stars that made complete arses of themselves for the benefit of
>the viewing public. I think they deserve everything they get...
Don't entirely agree - there have been several posts critical of some
aspects of the "cake" programme, including one from me.
John
JOHN OSHEA
<cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk>' wrote:
>> And "Cake" was last night which was the one I thought they weren't going
>> to show. I didn't think it ws quite as good as the animal rights one
>> though. The MP they conned seemed pretty genuine and wasn't pretending
>> to be an expert at all. I did like the way they got them to call it a
>> made up drug.
>David Amess is the MP for Basildon. I have lived in Basildon for 13
>years, and can tell you that Mr. Amess is the slimiest most unpleasant
>man to have ever walked the face of the earth.
Surely not - I present Mr Max Clifford or Mr Michael Howard to top that. :)
John
William HamBevan
I've finally seen the damned show, on video. All that I can say is that I
haven't been that hysterical since the days of 'Who Dares Wins' and the
Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass Eye
less than superlative? I suspect a lot of people simply don't get the joke...
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David Patrick
Elvis Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970206144247.6326E-100000@teaching7>, some
>bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
>>He
>>fell for it hook, line and sinker and desrves everything he gets.
>
>So do most gotcha victims but that doesn't make them funny.
True, what made it funny was the absolute drivel that he was reading
out. You don't need a medical degree to realise that it didn't make
sense.
If they had paid closer attention to what was going on and what they
were reading out, they'd have some idea of what was going on.
Elvis Presley
In article <32faf87...@snews.zippo.com>, Brian Duguid
<B...@removethis.mm-croy.mottmac.com> writes
>What appears to have been omitted from the programme is the fact that
>not only did Amess ask the question in the House, but that he received
>replies from two government ministers, one of whom stated that the
>government was already dealing with the cake menace. Frankly, that's a
>scandal.
What you've written there could have been a line lifted from one of the
piss poor current affairs programmes that Brass Eye is taking the piss
out of.
JOHN OSHEA
SORRY ABOUT THE MISTAKEN DUPLICATE POST! PRESSED THE WRONG BUTTON...
'wham...@jesus.ox.ac.uk (William HamBevan)' wrote:
>I've finally seen the damned show, on video. All that I can say is that I
>haven't been that hysterical since the days of 'Who Dares Wins' and the
>Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass Eye
>less than superlative? I suspect a lot of people simply don't get the
joke...
Wonderful satire and an unmissable part of the week's viewing.
As you mentioned Spitting Image, I particularly remember the version they
did of "Every Breath You Take" with references to the world's troubles and
hates. Truly biting.
Chris Morris and Rory Bremner (plus the Two Johns, of course) are keeping
satire alive and well on British TV.
John
JOHN OSHEA
On Feb 07, 1997 20:03:06 in article <Re: Brass Eye>,
'wham...@jesus.ox.ac.uk (William HamBevan)' wrote:
>I've finally seen the damned show, on video. All that I can say is that I
>haven't been that hysterical since the days of 'Who Dares Wins' and the
>Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass Eye
>less than superlative? I suspect a lot of people simply don't get the
joke...
>
Dom Robinson
In article <5diiil$k...@join.news.pipex.net>
pf...@dial.pipex.com (Ross Brown) writes:
>WHAT!!!! If you got approached by an "organisation" known as F.U.K.D
>and B.O.M.B.D about a new drug called CAKE, resembling an elephant's
>suppository, wouldn't the penny drop??? Nah, probably not.
Talking of elephant's, Carla Lane said in the Daily Mail on Friday that all
her work to help the fight against animal cruelty has been undone after her
appearance on the show, but if she can't tell when someone's joking, when
she's doing a feature on an elephant who needs help because it's got its own
trunk stuck up its arse, then she needs a brain transplant.
Then again, she probably needs a humour transplant after most of the series
of Bread.
TTFN,
Dom
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In article <2lYRePAq...@mirzam.demon.co.uk>, Ray McNaughton
<ray...@mirzam.demon.co.uk> writes
This is one of the problems (amongst many others) that that Dennis
Pennis has. Paul Daniels ran away, so did most of the other people. How
comes they fell for Chris Morris. Lets face it Pennis might be of the
same mold but cast from baser metals.
I still have flash backs just thing about it. Should I put in my .sig
the Bernie Manning quote. This little girl was so sick she puked up her
pelvis! I must stop writing this.
--
Geoff
Ross Brown
Elvis Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
>I agree with you there. The 1st episode got celebs to make arses of
>themselves by saying things that were completely preposterous and could
>be identified as such by any earth dweller. The cake thing otoh was all
>too believable and did indeed put the victim in a "Gotcha" type
>situation where they really had little option but to believe it.
WHAT!!!! If you got approached by an "organisation" known as F.U.K.D
and B.O.M.B.D about a new drug called CAKE, resembling an elephant's
suppository, wouldn't the penny drop??? Nah, probably not.
They're all upset because Chris Morris made them look stupid - Even
reading out "..Cake is a made up drug..." didn't make them twig - how
thick can you get?! They deserve all they get. NO SYMPATHY. If
people find it funny, that's a bonus.
Did Chris Morris make you look stupid on TV? Don't cry about it - try
and _pretend_ to have an ounce of common sense next time.
Ross
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Tony Hindle
In article <9hTuKAAF...@presley.demon.co.uk>, Elvis
Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <X2PfJAAR...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
><t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>> In fact I thought the drug dealer's responses to chris showed
>>that he was just another person on the street eeking out a living as
>>best he can.
>
>So are pimps and child pornographers I would think.
You really havent given things much thought. Can't you
see there is a big difference between these three things.
You just class them all as "against the law".
Tony Hindle.
Liam Gretton
In article <GvftpBAk...@fentek.demon.co.uk>, Andrew Fovargue
<URL:mailto:An...@fentek.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 'Cake effects the Shatner's Bassoon, the bit of the brain which does
> time perception - sounds like fun. But it wasn't fun for the Czech boy
> who was run over by a tram, he thought he had 1000 hours to cross the
> road'
I think maybe C4 cut a bit here. In the next day's Guardian, the prog was
reviewed, and the reviewer distinctly quoted another of Edmond's lines:
'Just think how he felt as his skull was crushed', or something similar.
--
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Elvis Presley
In article <5ditr2$ot$1...@sys10.cambridge.uk.psi.net>, JOHN OSHEA
<j_o...@uk.pipeline.com> writes
>Chris Morris and Rory Bremner (plus the Two Johns, of course) are keeping
>satire alive and well on British TV.
! Rory Bremner? Funny? Do you get a different version of Channel 4 from
me?
Elvis Presley
In article <PHLJFBAEBS$yE...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>>> In fact I thought the drug dealer's responses to chris showed
>>>that he was just another person on the street eeking out a living as
>>>best he can.
>>
>>So are pimps and child pornographers I would think.
>
>
>You really havent given things much thought.
Why should I?
>Can't you
>see there is a big difference between these three things.
Yes, there's a big difference between drug dealing and bus driving too,
but they are still both ways of making a living.
>You just class them all as "against the law".
Well they are aren't they? My point was that if you leave these things
to the conscience of the individual, they will always be able to justify
to themselves whatever it is they are doing.
Michael F Gordon
In <a6kX81Aa...@presley.demon.co.uk> Elvis Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> writes:
>I agree with you there. The 1st episode got celebs to make arses of
>themselves by saying things that were completely preposterous and could
>be identified as such by any earth dweller. The cake thing otoh was all
>too believable and did indeed put the victim in a "Gotcha" type
>situation where they really had little option but to believe it.
Anyone with more than two working neurons should have realised it was
nonsense. How they managed to sit there spouting lines like "Cake is
a made-up psychedelic drug" and telling stories about people throwing
up their own pelvis or crying all the water out of their bodies without
realising something odd was going on is beyond me. As others have said,
they were just mouthing the fashionable anti-drugs line without really
having a clue what they were talking about and, as such, deserved
everthing they got and more.
Michael Gordon
--
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some bloke
> One problem with this type of humour is that presumably people won't be
> taken in another time, so it would make a second series difficult.
I think another series would probably kill me if it carried on at such an
intense level... MC
some bloke
> I've finally seen the damned show, on video. All that I can say is that I
> haven't been that hysterical since the days of 'Who Dares Wins' and the
> Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass Eye
> less than superlative? I suspect a lot of people simply don't get the joke...
I absolutely aggree. But apparently (according to a well known deceased
rock'n'roll star) it just seems to appeal to us 'druggie' student types.
I am proud to be at the university that God attended.
MC
some bloke
> I agree with you there. The 1st episode got celebs to make arses of
> themselves by saying things that were completely preposterous and could
> be identified as such by any earth dweller. The cake thing otoh was all
> too believable and did indeed put the victim in a "Gotcha" type
> situation where they really had little option but to believe it.
Oh yeah? What about Shatner's Bassoon? Czech Neck? Woman vomits up own
pelvis? Man run over because he thinks he has a month to cross? People
killed by saucepans falling from blocks of flats? One song lasting four days?
"Cake is a made-up drug?". Absolutely now way they could have spotted
they were being wound up. It was all SOOOO believable. Face it, they have
all been exposed for the self-obsessed gobshites that they are. It was
superb.
MC
Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970210150902.15677D-100000@teaching7>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
Fair do's. I never suggested that anything on Brass Eye was less funny
than the South Africans Song from Spitting Image though.
Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970210145441.15677B-100000@teaching7>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
>Face it, they have
>all been exposed for the self-obsessed gobshites that they are. It was
>superb.
OK, but it still wan't as funny as the previous wekk's offering IMO.
Christopher Chantler
Ross Brown wrote:
> WHAT!!!! If you got approached by an "organisation" known as F.U.K.D
> and B.O.M.B.D about a new drug called CAKE, resembling an elephant's
> suppository, wouldn't the penny drop??? Nah, probably not.
And I know very little about elephants, but it's so obviously impossible
for them to get their trunk stuck up their anus - how did animal experts
like Lane and Cooper ever think it was possible? If they're such experts
shouldn't they know a bit about the physiognomy of the elephant?
Absolutely no sympathy, couldn't agree more. Comparing it to a 'Gotcha'
is ludicrous - Gotchas don't play on the hypocrisy, gullibility, and
smugness of the victims. With a Gotcha, you end up asking "What did Jon
Pertwee (or whoever) do to deserve that?" while with Morris' fake
campaigns the fact that they're taking part is reason enough for them to
deserve severe egg on the face. Basically, Morris' fake campaigns aren't
pointless little runarounds like 'Gotchas'; they expose the
bandwagoneering idiocy of self-serving celebrities anxious to attach
themselves to a cause they know nothing about (though - in the case of
Lane - they claim to know lots about. Of course, as an animal
rights activist, Carla's all-too-aware of the horrible problem of
weasel-fighting in the East End.)
Tony Hindle
>>You just class them all as "against the law".
>
>Well they are aren't they? My point was that if you leave these things
>to the conscience of the individual, they will always be able to justify
>to themselves whatever it is they are doing.
>
Imagine this if you will....
You have no education, no chance of a legal job, lots of
people already label you as scum before they know anything
about your situatuon. You cant get a girl because you are
skint and low status. Then an opportunity to make money
and achieve status among women presents itself... It means
breaking a law made by a society that seems set against
you but no violence is involved. What would you do?
It's in our genes mate. When society denies these
men any other option they have no choice but to act in
whatever way is required in order to win sex and status.
Luckily we are programed by our genes to find anyway that
avoids murder. Drug dealing avoids murder, so does
prostitution/pimping. Paedophiles are sick and should be
locked up in mental institutions to protect the children
so dont group them all together just to try and win your
point.
Your call.
" they say pot makes you unmotivated..LIE.....
when your high you can do anything you can do
when your straight,...
It's just that when you are high you realise...
it aint worth the fuckin effort
(there IS a difference)". ...Bill Hicks, worlds funniest comedian
(although even he died in february 1994)".....The Reverend. C. Darwin .
JOHN OSHEA
Interesting article from the Observer (9/2/97), posted without permission.
(Sorry guys, please don't sue me!)
I've edited slightly, but haven't altered the sense. It should be of
interest to those who want to know how Brass Eye works and to those of us
interested in the issues wider than the great satire. Just adding to the
discussion:
Claire Rayner: Brassed Off with Brass Eye
---QUOTE---
..A brief account of my entrapment. Last summer, in a flurry, I took part
in what I had been assured was a series on ethical issues for Channel Four,
to be presented by a person new to such a task... I hurried off to do the
programme, made by a production company I'd never heard of... no one can
know them all.
The presenter startled me. He looked vaguely familiar, but then I meet a
lot of people. He interviewed me at great speed about what seemed be
serious at first but became ever more bizarre; like a Japanese invention
for linking humas to dogs that smoked tobacco or pot...
Anyway, I did the job and went on holiday rather uneasy about it all. I
bagged the cheque they'd sent (you bet I did, they'd had a morning out of
my busy life).... but all the time there was a tug of doubt about "The Main
Agenda"
Just before Christmas, I phoned to say I was suspicious... "I'll get
someone to phone you" promised the voice at the other end (the original
company making the series had been wound up)... No one phoned me and
Christmas intervened... until I forgot they hadn't phoned.
Two weeks ago, when I watched Chris Morris' Brass Eye, I realised I had
been conned....
What we all had in common, I believe, was a genuine concern for the welfare
of our fellow citizens. Oh you may jeer and sneer, but some of us actually
do have causes we care about... soft targets for... Morris.
..set yourself up in government and you're entitled to all the flak that
comes your way... Most of us are perfectly well able to make fools of
ourselves but... in the case of Brass Eye, I was led into the arena
blindfolded.
.. I chose to threaten the company with an injunction. They were so very
eager to encourage me that I realised just in time that they'd love the
juicy publicity, for which I would foot the bill... I was angry, but not
stupid.
..Just how far it is legitimate to attack people who do their jobs in
public? I'd say Spitting Image and suchlike is legitimate. The targets may
not enjoy it (my own Spitting Image puppet was particularly hideous) but we
can't say we were tricked in any way. Morris plays on genuinely held
feelings and concerns in his victims in a way that devalues satire. It
should be acid and cruel and steeped in malice - but honest and clean in
itself. If it isn't, it is as dubious as the matters it purports to hold up
to scorn.
I am well aware that it isn't causes such as animal welfare and drugs
education that concern Morris: his target is television itself, which can
be so pompous it makes a nonsense of the very issues it sets out to
illuminate. However in abusing the trust of people who have valid points to
make and who have done no harm to anyone... he does real damage to his
argument. Because of this series, it seems likely that fewer and fewer
honest people who speak on TV out of conviction will agree to do so in
future.
Or could I be wrong? Is Morris, the arch TV hater, just the same as the
rest? If what they want is publicity, then they're no better than the
programmes they lampoon.
But I'm a nice woman. I don't bear grudges. So Chris Morris, here's your
bloody publicity - and much good may it do you.
---UNQUOTE---
Comments? I have to say, she makes some valid points.
John
JOHN OSHEA
<el...@presley.demon.co.uk>' wrote:
><j_o...@uk.pipeline.com> writes
>>Chris Morris and Rory Bremner (plus the Two Johns, of course) are keeping
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>satire alive and well on British TV.
>! Rory Bremner? Funny? Do you get a different version of Channel 4 from
>me?
Satire is not always funny - it can be deadly serious at times and is at
its most biting then. That said, I do find Rory Bremner VERY funny - worth
watching just for the Two Johns. Just a matter of personal taste - that's
why you have a choice.
John
JOHN OSHEA
<cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk>' wrote:
>> I've finally seen the damned show, on video. All that I can say is that
I
>> haven't been that hysterical since the days of 'Who Dares Wins' and the
>> Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass
Eye
>> less than superlative? I suspect a lot of people simply don't get the
>joke...
>I absolutely aggree. But apparently (according to a well known deceased
>rock'n'roll star) it just seems to appeal to us 'druggie' student types.
>I am proud to be at the university that God attended.
So that explains why the world is so screwed.
John O'Shea
Proud to be a graduate of the finest American Studies Department in the UK.
Keele University - more than just a motorway service area.
No it ISN'T in Germany.
DuncanRV
Gulp!
She does indeed make some good points, but those who live by television in
our sound bite age will no doubt ultimately die by television.
And in a war against hipocrisy (probably spelled incorrectly - too much TV
you know!) innocent people are bound to "suffer"
All I can say is that I don't consider Claire Rayner to be a fool, in the
same way that I don't consider Rolf Harris to be a fool because of Brass
Eye. Those two are the innocents, and they unwittingly took part in
something which has shown people like Edmonds and Amis to be what they
are.
What are they? well I think you only have to watch the programme and see
for yourself.
Well done Chris Morris
Elvis Presley
In article <XzJPoJANb2$yE...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>You just class them all as "against the law".
>>
>>Well they are aren't they? My point was that if you leave these things
>>to the conscience of the individual, they will always be able to justify
>>to themselves whatever it is they are doing.
>>
>
> Imagine this if you will....
>You have no education, no chance of a legal job, lots of
>people already label you as scum before they know anything
>about your situatuon. You cant get a girl because you are
>skint and low status. Then an opportunity to make money
>and achieve status among women presents itself... It means
>breaking a law made by a society that seems set against
>you but no violence is involved. What would you do?
> It's in our genes mate. When society denies these
>men any other option they have no choice but to act in
>whatever way is required in order to win sex and status.
>Luckily we are programed by our genes to find anyway that
>avoids murder. Drug dealing avoids murder, so does
>prostitution/pimping. Paedophiles are sick and should be
>locked up in mental institutions to protect the children
>so dont group them all together just to try and win your
>point.
> Your call.
>
What about the people who fall into all the above categories above
except drug dealing? Do you think society should be geared up for lazy
c**ts who can't be arsed to pay attention at school?
Why is a paedophile sick and a crack dealing pimp not? Nothing to do
with your personal perception of right and wrong being the definitive?
Anyway, you have managed to justify drug dealing to yourself. Well done.
You have demonstrated my point rather nicely thank you.
Liam Gretton
In article <5dg1pq$a...@news.ox.ac.uk>, William HamBevan
<URL:mailto:wham...@jesus.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass Eye
Anyone remember the words to this? All I can remember is:
I've never met a nice South African,
Well that's not bloody surprising mate,
'Cos they're a bunch of talentless murderers
Who hate black people.
And that was from an interview with David Lloyd on R4.
Liam Gretton
In article <32FA53...@scigen.co.uk>, Susan Ward
<URL:mailto:sw...@scigen.co.uk> wrote:
> But to some extent that is what they have to do all the time - they can't
> have knowledge of every subject they are asked by their constituents to
> raise in parliament.
But don't you think that was the point of Brasseye? The fact that in general,
we see these people as having authoratative views on every subject under the
Sun without realising that they've simply been caught short by someone from
the Beeb with a camera and a microphone?
No doubt a 'normal' interview with a politician starts with a week's worth of
paperwork detailing the questions to be asked, so that the fat bastard can
answer with a well-rehearsed response. In these circumstances, King Kong
could give a decent reply to any question you care to ask.
Let's face it - at the end of the day, politicians are expected to know what
the hell they're talking about. After all, they do get expensive researchers
to shag (shurely "do all their hard work for them"?).
Brian Duguid
Tony Hindle <t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>You have no education, no chance of a legal job, lots of
>people already label you as scum before they know anything
>about your situatuon. You cant get a girl because you are
>skint and low status. Then an opportunity to make money
>and achieve status among women presents itself... It means
>breaking a law made by a society that seems set against
>you but no violence is involved. What would you do?
> It's in our genes mate. When society denies these
>men any other option they have no choice but to act in
>whatever way is required in order to win sex and status.
>Luckily we are programed by our genes to find anyway that
>avoids murder. Drug dealing avoids murder, so does
>prostitution/pimping. Paedophiles are sick and should be
>locked up in mental institutions to protect the children
>so dont group them all together just to try and win your
>point.
Boy, you'd have gone down a treat in Nazi Germany. They thought that
criminality was genetically determined too.
Brian Duguid brian....@mottmac.com
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Tony Hindle
In article <0eLcFOAiY6$yE...@presley.demon.co.uk>, Elvis
Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> writes
>> > It's in our genes mate. When society denies these
>>men any other option they have no choice but to act in
>>whatever way is required in order to win sex and status.
>>Luckily we are programed by our genes to find anyway that
>>avoids murder. Drug dealing avoids murder, so does
>>prostitution/pimping. Paedophiles are sick and should be
>>locked up in mental institutions to protect the children
>>so dont group them all together just to try and win your
>>point.
>>
>
>What about the people who fall into all the above categories above
>except drug dealing? Do you think society should be geared up for lazy
>c**ts who can't be arsed to pay attention at school?
"cant be arsed to pay attention", or havent ever
been encouraged to pay attention. I say the latter.
attention problems start either at birth (if they are
genetic) or during babyhood if they are environmental
(e.g., no stimulii). This is not a choice that they make.
Its not a choice that parents make either to not
stimulate the minds of their babys, its just a tragedy
that is under recognised.
>
>Why is a paedophile sick and a crack dealing pimp not? Nothing to do
>with your personal perception of right and wrong being the definitive?
A paedophile's behaviour comes from a mind that is
operating in a mode that has no adaptive explanation.
Luckily this means there is no reason to suspect that
paedophilia should be a way of life that occurs naturally
to a majority of people. It is a mental illness that
inflicts a small minority of people, who should be locked
up-not to punish them but to protect innocent children.
A crack dealing pimp is trying to climb the status
hierarchy anyway he can. The quest in a young man for
power/status/money/sex is almost universal.
As for prostitution, well that is trading the
first commodity humans (and animals) ever traded... sex.
>
>Anyway, you have managed to justify drug dealing to yourself. Well done.
>You have demonstrated my point rather nicely thank you.
Yes I can easily envisage a situation where I
would deal drugs (I used to work in a bar after all).
You must be able to also ( I may be wrong, I have
been 400 000 000 times in my life already)
Another thing I like about BRASS EYE and
such good satires is that they get people discussing
hings they might not otherwise have.
Tony Hindle.
Steve Roberts
>In article <5dg1pq$a...@news.ox.ac.uk>, William HamBevan
><URL:mailto:wham...@jesus.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>> Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass Eye
>
>Anyone remember the words to this? All I can remember is:
>
>I've never met a nice South African,
>Well that's not bloody surprising mate,
>'Cos they're a bunch of talentless murderers
>Who hate black people.
Another verse goes something like:-
I've never met a nice South African,
And that's not bloody surprising, man.
'Cos they're a load of ignorant bastards
And smell like baboons.
Steve
*** Views expressed are my own and should not be taken to represent BBC policy. ***
Elvis Presley
In article <ant10004...@binliner.demon.co.uk>, Liam Gretton
<li...@binliner.demon.co.uk> writes
>> But to some extent that is what they have to do all the time - they can't
>> have knowledge of every subject they are asked by their constituents to
>> raise in parliament.
>
>But don't you think that was the point of Brasseye? The fact that in general,
>we see these people as having authoratative views on every subject under the
>Sun without realising that they've simply been caught short by someone from
>the Beeb with a camera and a microphone?
Maybe the reason I didn't find it too funny was the fact that I had
always realised that that was what happened.
Elvis Presley
In article <jZIiyBALt8$yE...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>>What about the people who fall into all the above categories above
>>except drug dealing? Do you think society should be geared up for lazy
>>c**ts who can't be arsed to pay attention at school?
>
> "cant be arsed to pay attention", or havent ever
>been encouraged to pay attention. I say the latter.
That's where we differ.
>attention problems start either at birth (if they are
>genetic) or during babyhood if they are environmental
>(e.g., no stimulii). This is not a choice that they make.
> Its not a choice that parents make either to not
>stimulate the minds of their babys, its just a tragedy
>that is under recognised.
People who say this seem to forget that loads and loads of people have
arse holes for parents, no money, and still manage to make the best of
the opportunities they get in th eeducation system and manage to live
crime free lives. Take for example my Mum's family. They had a right
mental bastard for a Mother and a Dad who was away at war. They were so
skint that they couldn't even afford to buy their rations. None of them
did any crime apart from Grand dad who was nicked for stealing slack off
the railway line after he was de-mobbed.
Of the kids who didn't die of TB, the two sisters led normal useful
productive lives rearing 4 kids between them and the brother worked hard
and ended up in senior management in the retail sector.
It's funny, but they don't say that they got what they got simply by
genetic chance, they rather think it is because they made hard choices
and worked their nads off.
Of course, the fashionable socialist outlook has problems accounting for
those who are lazy. How can it be that one is a success whist another is
a failiure? It can't possibly be the failiure's fault! Oh, no. That
would contradict the doctrine that we are all "equal" and would be far
too upsetting to face up to.
If this is all genetic, and even where it's environmental, it may as
well be genetic because it starts at day 1, how do you justify the
welfare state paying families like this to produce kids whilst the rest
of us are constrained by the normal economic harshness of life from so
doing? Doesn't it eventually lead to a society completely populated by
these poor, "short attention span" wretches whilst they breed like
rabbits and everyone else keeps their flies buttoned?
In fact, if we accept your theory that these problems are genetic, how
are we to escape the solution that the only way to deal with them is to
eliminate the offending genes from the human race? Do you really
advocate execution for these poor victims, or would you just stop their
benefits so their kids slowly starve?
<"What's that under the bridge mummy?" Said the little goat - "Why it's
a nasty old.............">
Darren Meldrum
>! Rory Bremner? Funny? Do you get a different version of Channel 4 from
>me?
He said that Rory Bemner was keeping satire alive, which is quite
correct. He didn't say anything about being funny.
--
Darren Meldrum (mel...@dial.pipex.com)
http://ds.dial.pipex.com/meldrum/
Jacqui
some bloke wrote:
> I am proud to be at the university that God attended. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dyawanna fight about that mate?
Jac (the OTHER Oxford University)
--
"Curlicue? I tried to pot the black but I had a curly cue"
Mr Dog is dead, long live Cesar!
Marky P
In article <5dntba$g0$1...@sys10.cambridge.uk.psi.net>, JOHN OSHEA
<j_o...@uk.pipeline.com> writes
>But I'm a nice woman. I don't bear grudges. So Chris Morris, here's your
>bloody publicity - and much good may it do you.
>---UNQUOTE---
>
>Comments? I have to say, she makes some valid points.
>
>John
>
challenging or thinking about what is done and how it is done. Morris
has dared, in the face of adversity, to break some of the moulds that we
have been brainwashed into accepting. With the run up to the election,
and the current tidal wave of point winning games for censorship being
fought tooth and nail by nearly all wannabe MP's, I personally am *SICK*
of being told what I can or cannot see or do. The fact that Morris has
had the balls to do what he has done in this day and age, possibly
especially in this day and age, is admirable. You can argue forever over
the boundaries of comedy, and you can argue forever whether what he done
was right or wrong, but you cannot deny that in the tepid watered down
drivel that is todays television, it takes balls to make a stand. Morris
is in many ways the ultimate figure of democracy. The only difference is
that he hi-jacked a predominatly government owned media to portray his
views. It should also be noted that in doing so, he has inspired
intelligent debate and also, more importantly, produced something that
is *MONUMENTALLY* funny. You can debate what is funny and what is not,
but you can't deny the genius and sheer balls that Morris has shown. I
thank you. :) MARKY P.
--
Marky P
Elvis Presley
In article <33018736...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Darren Meldrum
<mel...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:07:32 +0000, Elvis Presley
><el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>! Rory Bremner? Funny? Do you get a different version of Channel 4 from
>>me?
>
>He said that Rory Bemner was keeping satire alive, which is quite
>correct. He didn't say anything about being funny.
>
He may be keeping it alive, but I think it's time he gave careful
consideration to its quality of life. Maybe it'd be kinder to turn off
the life support.....
JOHN OSHEA
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk>' wrote:
>>>You just class them all as "against the law".
>>
>>Well they are aren't they? My point was that if you leave these things
>>to the conscience of the individual, they will always be able to justify
>>to themselves whatever it is they are doing.
>Imagine this if you will....
>people already label you as scum before they know anything
>about your situatuon. You cant get a girl because you are
>skint and low status. Then an opportunity to make money
>and achieve status among women presents itself... It means
>breaking a law made by a society that seems set against
>you but no violence is involved. What would you do?
>men any other option they have no choice but to act in
>whatever way is required in order to win sex and status.
accepted morals? You are arguing from a very Darwinian point of view, which
has some merit from a biological point of view. It falls down because I
have seen the misery and destruction that drug abuse can cause. I'm not one
of those moralists that classes all drugs as the same and I have an equally
tough view of those who abuse alcohol or tobacco. What is a sure fact is
that the street drugs lack pharmaceutical purity and long-term effects are
often unclear or even unknown. Check with the National Poisons Unit if you
don't believe me.
I understand why people deal drugs, but don't forget that very few jobs
will offer the level of earnings or status that they seek. (Mine certainly
doesn't) Dealing may be a way out, but it is still wrong. There is always
an alternative.
>Luckily we are programed by our genes to find anyway that
>avoids murder. Drug dealing avoids murder, so does
>prostitution/pimping. Paedophiles are sick and should be
>locked up in mental institutions to protect the children
>so dont group them all together just to try and win your
>point.
>Your call.
Daniel Garrett
She makes some valid points like you say but would she really think this so
serious if she had been watching Brass Eye with someone else being
duped?? It smacks of the vaguley embarrassed sour grapes that emanated
from Noel Edmonds too, the fact is Morris made them look total idiots and
they don't like it. I really wonder how he actually got away with it, the guy's a
genius.
--
Daniel Garrett
Andrew Virnuls
In article <330128...@brookes.ac.uk>, Jacqui <9615...@brookes.ac.uk>
wrote:
>
> some bloke wrote:
>
> > I am proud to be at the university that God attended.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Dyawanna fight about that mate?
So, what degree did God do, then? He has a beard, doesn't he? And he's
unemployed. It must have been an Arts course.
Did he really get the A' levels, or did he use his connections to get in
(like the Prince of Wales)? Which LEA paid his fees?
Andrew BSc(Hons)
--
A N D R E W vir...@argonet.co.uk Honey traps more flies than vinegar
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/virnuls Fine words butter no parsnips
Tony Hindle
> "cant be arsed to pay attention", or havent ever
>>been encouraged to pay attention. I say the latter.
>
>That's where we differ.
>
>>attention problems start either at birth (if they are
>>genetic) or during babyhood if they are environmental
>>(e.g., no stimulii). This is not a choice that they make.
>> Its not a choice that parents make either to not
>>stimulate the minds of their babys, its just a tragedy
>>that is under recognised.
>
>People who say this seem to forget that loads and loads of people have
>arse holes for parents, no money, and still manage to make the best of
>the opportunities they get in th eeducation system and manage to live
>crime free lives. Take for example my Mum's family. They had a right
>mental bastard for a Mother and a Dad who was away at war. They were so
>skint that they couldn't even afford to buy their rations. None of them
>did any crime apart from Grand dad who was nicked for stealing slack off
>the railway line after he was de-mobbed.
acting over large numbers. I look at it this way, Take 1
million young men with deprived environments (and normal
genes, my point is that their behaviour is to be expected
in a minority) and you are certain to get a few drug
dealers, a few pimps (and a few murderers but I think they
should be executed anyway-you might be surprised to hear).
If you increase the sanctions against such behaviour the
supply and demand will simply re-adjust, the net effect
will be higher drugs & prostitution prices. Society has
already priced out of reach the poor's access to many
things, surely you dont begrudge them a shag and a holiday
from reality every now and again.
A true prevention would try to take away the
(relatively) deprived environments which would mean
addressing the real problems stemming from the widening
gap between rich & poor.
Your mum's early environment and her subsequent
well being is a credit to her, but if you had a million
mums in a million deprived early environments you would
have a few prostitutes, drug dealers and murderers.(unless
your mum was a man, then you would have more murderers
drug dealers and pimps and less prostitutes.)
>
>Of the kids who didn't die of TB, the two sisters led normal useful
>productive lives rearing 4 kids between them and the brother worked hard
>and ended up in senior management in the retail sector.
>
>It's funny, but they don't say that they got what they got simply by
>genetic chance, they rather think it is because they made hard choices
>and worked their nads off.
If we succeed we take credit for ourselves. If we
fail we blame external circumstances.
You assume that I automatically associate "senior
management retail sector" as success in life. I believe
that if everyone simply worked hard (even within the law)
to do better than their neighbours the world would be hell
and it would be destroyed very quickly.
>
>
>Of course, the fashionable socialist outlook has problems accounting for
>those who are lazy. How can it be that one is a success whist another is
>a failiure? It can't possibly be the failiure's fault! Oh, no. That
>would contradict the doctrine that we are all "equal" and would be far
>too upsetting to face up to.
The doctrine we are all equal refers to value. Not
to our deeds. I think you are of equal value to Bob
geldoff but your deeds may not be (although I do like your
music).
>
>If this is all genetic, and even where it's environmental, it may as
>well be genetic because it starts at day 1, how do you justify the
>welfare state paying families like this to produce kids whilst the rest
>of us are constrained by the normal economic harshness of life from so
>doing? Doesn't it eventually lead to a society completely populated by
>these poor, "short attention span" wretches whilst they breed like
>rabbits and everyone else keeps their flies buttoned?
The problem today is a price we are paying for
mistakes made in the last 20 years.
>
>In fact, if we accept your theory that these problems are genetic, how
>are we to escape the solution that the only way to deal with them is to
>eliminate the offending genes from the human race? Do you really
>advocate execution for these poor victims, or would you just stop their
>benefits so their kids slowly starve?
Extermination is the solution. However, since I am
saying that the problems are the environments not the
genes (I merely mentioned "its in the genes" to illustrate
that the behaviour is to be expected under the
circumstances), thus extermination must proceed by
eliminating the environmental causes of deprivation not
the genes (try eliminating the gene for being horny,
that'll stop prostitution. or for competing for status,
that'll stop all aggro, or the gene for curiosity, that'll
stop drugs.)
Execute the murderers,
imprison the child molestors for life
and educate all the children...(hardly fashionable
socialism).
All this just goes to show that a decent bit of
hiarious satire such as brass eye can amuse us as well as
get us talking and thinking.
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT WATCH BRASS EYE.
Elvis Presley
In article <lJvjGEAo...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>Execute the murderers,
> imprison the child molestors for life
> and educate all the children...(hardly fashionable
>socialism).
Nothing to argue with there. BTW, it may suprise yu to learn that I
actually favour the complete legalisation of all recreational drugs and
prostitution.
If you want to buy whatever cack you want to and pay some old haunter to
lick your bulb, I couldn't give a toss. I don't however approve of their
use under current circumstances because the inflated prices caused by
the illegality of these practices simply leads to increased profits for
those who criminally (in the truly nasty sense of the word) exploit not
only the direct victims, ie the addicts, prozzies etc, but also the
innocent people who they steal from to pay for their bit of fun.
When I consider the type of people who are involved in supplying drugs,
from violent Columbian "businessmen" who exploit the farmers to corrupt
governments who use the kickbacks militarily to terrorize their own
populations, I am amazed that people who are delighted to Boycott Nestle
for selling powdered milk in some long forgotten "scandal" God knows
when, refuse to boycott the product of these other bastards whose
practices are several orders of magnitude worse.
I won't even start on the "fund raising" activities of terrorist
organisations which have murdered hundreds of people throughout Europe
funded by criminal activity including trading in drugs.
Tony Hindle
In article <mrjIIUA$MfAz...@presley.demon.co.uk>, Elvis
Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <lJvjGEAo...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
><t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Execute the murderers,
>> imprison the child molestors for life
>> and educate all the children...(hardly fashionable
>>socialism).
>
>Nothing to argue with there. BTW, it may suprise yu to learn that I
>actually favour the complete legalisation of all recreational drugs and
>prostitution.
>
>If you want to buy whatever cack you want to and pay some old haunter to
>lick your bulb, I couldn't give a toss. I don't however approve of their
>use under current circumstances because the inflated prices caused by
>the illegality of these practices simply leads to increased profits for
>those who criminally (in the truly nasty sense of the word) exploit not
>only the direct victims, ie the addicts, prozzies etc, but also the
>innocent people who they steal from to pay for their bit of fun.
>
>When I consider the type of people who are involved in supplying drugs,
>from violent Columbian "businessmen" who exploit the farmers to corrupt
>governments who use the kickbacks militarily to terrorize their own
>populations, I am amazed that people who are delighted to Boycott Nestle
>for selling powdered milk in some long forgotten "scandal" God knows
>when, refuse to boycott the product of these other bastards whose
>practices are several orders of magnitude worse.
There is no choice for users to make except no
drugs at all, that would be the equivalent of the mothers
boycotting nestles baby milk even though it was the only
scource available. (oh yes, mood enhancing drugs that you
sucked from a breast that would be the greatest)
All this is more reson to legalise so people would be able
to make informed choices.
I
It does make one reflect that the illegal status of drugs
serves the needs of the violent criminals at the top of
the supply chain, the ones with guns that talk to the
powerful people that make the laws. Could it be that all
the propoganda makes sure the people still support the
laws that line the pockets of the druglords?
>
>I won't even start on the "fund raising" activities of terrorist
>organisations which have murdered hundreds of people throughout Europe
>funded by criminal activity including trading in drugs.
Another argument in favour of legalisation.
Were'nt we disagreeing about something? Oh well I'm
looking foreward to tonights Brass Eye.
Today a young man on acid realised that all matter is merely
energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one
consciousness experiencing itself subjectively.
There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream
and we are the imagination of ourselves.....
...here's Tom with the weather
BILL HICKS.
Steve Paget
j_o...@uk.pipeline.com(JOHN OSHEA) wrote:
>Comments? I have to say, she makes some valid points.
But she had NOTHING to complain about. She wasn't made to look like an
arse, not like the others.
All she did was look shocked and astounded by the "Canni-bliss"
commercial, and say that using various (real) drugs was wrong.
I think she came out of it with her integrity intact, unlike Noel
Edmonds and (I'm afraid to say) my beloved Rolfie.
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sheridan
Liam Gretton wrote:
>
> In article <32FA53...@scigen.co.uk>, Susan Ward
> <URL:mailto:sw...@scigen.co.uk> wrote:
> > have knowledge of every subject they are asked by their constituents to
> > raise in parliament.
>
> But don't you think that was the point of Brasseye? The fact that in general,
> we see these people as having authoratative views on every subject under the
> Sun without realising that they've simply been caught short by someone from
> the Beeb with a camera and a microphone?
>
> paperwork detailing the questions to be asked, so that the fat bastard can
> answer with a well-rehearsed response. In these circumstances, King Kong
> could give a decent reply to any question you care to ask.
>
> Let's face it - at the end of the day, politicians are expected to know what
> the hell they're talking about. After all, they do get expensive researchers
> to shag (shurely "do all their hard work for them"?).
>
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celebrities will go to to get their bloody heads on the box. Chuck any
campaign, no matter how ludicrous it sounds at them (Elephants...arses/
cake..drugs) and they pick up on the buzz words, throw their best side at the
camera and just don't give a shit about researching it or anything, because
they got what they wanted out of it. A bit of publicity.
frankly, the one who comes off worst is Noel"Antichrist" Edmunds, who's whole
show is based around humiliating 'ordinary' people, which presumably is
alright, and family entertainment. ho hum.
Sheridan
JOHN OSHEA
<el...@presley.demon.co.uk>' wrote:
>In article <lJvjGEAo...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
><t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Execute the murderers,
>> imprison the child molestors for life
>> and educate all the children...(hardly fashionable
>>socialism).
>
>Nothing to argue with there. BTW, it may suprise yu to learn that I
>actually favour the complete legalisation of all recreational drugs and
>prostitution.
politically unpalatable:
1 Legalisation - let the market decide, if people want to pump themselves
full of intoxicating substance, let them. They know the risks, like tobacco
and alcohol. If they judge that the risks are worth the high, then let's
sell them properly manufactured drugs and tax the industry. This would have
to be done on a Europe-wide basis to prevent any one country from becoming
a Mecca for drug addicts, although the UK would find it easier than most
other countries to go it alone.
2 Military Action - Declare that the importation of drugs poses a serious
threat to the national security of this nation. Impose strict border
controls, enforceable with lethal force and launch military action against
any country not dealing with drug manufacturers. This would require NATO
co-operation, as the US would be a vital part of the military element.
The greatest shame is that we can't discuss the issue like adults -
politicians are too scared to mention it for fear of being demoted and
blasted by the middle-market tabloids.
John
JOHN OSHEA
'lo...@my.sig.for.address (Steve Paget)' wrote:
>j_o...@uk.pipeline.com(JOHN OSHEA) wrote:
>>Comments? I have to say, she makes some valid points.
>But she had NOTHING to complain about. She wasn't made to look like an
>arse, not like the others.
>All she did was look shocked and astounded by the "Canni-bliss"
>commercial, and say that using various (real) drugs was wrong.
>I think she came out of it with her integrity intact, unlike Noel
>Edmonds and (I'm afraid to say) my beloved Rolfie.
OK, so she had it easy, but I still maintain that there is some value in
what she said. She is an intelligent woman who can see the potential
dangers in this sort of TV. I enjoyed both programmes so far, but I've
still got some lingering doubts about the way the humour is generated.
Let's face it, media stars are not really difficult targets for satire, are
they? Politicians are a different kettle of fish. Anybody who sets
themselves up as moralists for a nation deserve to be kept under pressure.
John
9.30, Wednesday, Ch 4
No Brass Eye, no comment.
some bloke
> frankly, the one who comes off worst is Noel"Antichrist" Edmunds, who's whole
> show is based around humiliating 'ordinary' people, which presumably is
> alright, and family entertainment. ho hum.
Now... I am in a tricky position. I know Jenny Powell might be a bit thick,
but surely there is not a human alive could believe what she said: 'there is a
negligible probability (about 20 to 1) that scotland will go down like a
lead ballon propelling the south-easy rapidly towards Finland.'
I am having a great deal of difficulty accepting the fact that
Briers could honestly talk about 'heavy electricity' and 'invisible lead
soup' and not realise it was a joke. 'Wobbly Matter'. Help. I am
beginning to doubt my own faith in BE and CM... what do I do?
MC
Alex Loh
In article <5dt7ce$dmt$1...@sys10.cambridge.uk.psi.net>
j_o...@uk.pipeline.com(JOHN "JOHN OSHEA" writes:
> There are two solutions to the drugs problem, both radical and both
> politically unpalatable:
>
> 1 Legalisation - let the market decide, if people want to pump themselves
> full of intoxicating substance, let them. They know the risks, like tobacco
> and alcohol.
<snip>
I've been involved with the local music scene for about 10 years, and
would say that these days pop music / youth culture is about 80% fuelled
by drug culture. The war against drugs was lost years ago - fighting it
is a losing battle, which can only result in never-ending conflict
costing many lives amongst users, dealers and anti-drugs enforcers.
Another possible solution:legalisation of some substances such as
cannabis, decriminalisation [not legalisation!] of small quantities of
class A substances such as Ecstasy etc *BUT* If anyone is caught
committing crimes of violence, domestic burglaries or car theft etc
whilst in possession of a drug - they get the penalty for the crime,
*AND* *twice* the equivalent penalty for possession of that substance had
it not been legalised/decriminalised...
That way people should eventually learn they can take what they want,
provided their habit isn't going to affect someone elses life...
Alex
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In article <B0j6JDAY...@joney.demon.co.uk>, Tony Hindle
<t.hi...@joney.demon.co.uk> writes
> There is no choice for users to make except no
>drugs at all, that would be the equivalent of the mothers
>boycotting nestles baby milk even though it was the only
>scource available.
Nestle isn't too far off being the world's only supplier of dairy
products ;-)
> I
>It does make one reflect that the illegal status of drugs
>serves the needs of the violent criminals at the top of
>the supply chain, the ones with guns that talk to the
>powerful people that make the laws. Could it be that all
>the propoganda makes sure the people still support the
>laws that line the pockets of the druglords?
Cannabis also seems to make people slightly more keen than normal to
believe conspiracy theories ;-)
Tony Hindle
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970212222017.107C-
100000@teaching8>, some bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox
.ac.uk> writes
Discover the truth, How do we know Chris
Morris isnt playing the final tease on us? The final
credits on the last show will be followed by the
cathartic revelation that ...
of course some celebs knew it was a wind up all
along.
Maybe we as the viewing public informed by the
press, another strand of the current affairs reporting
that brass eye is parodying, are seeing and reading what
chris morris wants us to about brass eye. That would
explain why he insisted on full production control.
Maybe I am another creation of chris morris....
...Reverend. C. Darwin.
§d°¶·×
some bloke wrote:
> =
> > I've finally seen the damned show, on video. All that I can say is th=
at I
> > haven't been that hysterical since the days of 'Who Dares Wins' and t=
he
> > Spitting Image 'South Africans' song. How can anyone have found Brass=
Eye
> > less than superlative? I suspect a lot of people simply don't get the=
joke...
> =
> I absolutely aggree. But apparently (according to a well known deceased=
> rock'n'roll star) it just seems to appeal to us 'druggie' student types=
=2E
> I am proud to be at the university that God attended.
> =
> MC
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On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, some bloke wrote:
> Now... I am in a tricky position. I know Jenny Powell might be a bit thick,
> but surely there is not a human alive could believe what she said: 'there is a
> negligible probability (about 20 to 1) that scotland will go down like a
> lead ballon propelling the south-easy rapidly towards Finland.'
>
> I am having a great deal of difficulty accepting the fact that
> Briers could honestly talk about 'heavy electricity' and 'invisible lead
> soup' and not realise it was a joke. 'Wobbly Matter'. Help. I am
> beginning to doubt my own faith in BE and CM... what do I do?
Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
mins. of last night's show (watched that bloody crap football team
instead) but what I saw wasn't up to the standard of the previous two
weeks.
Martin
Darren Meldrum
>Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
>possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
>start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
>mins. of last night's show (watched that bloody crap football team
>instead) but what I saw wasn't up to the standard of the previous two
>weeks.
How can you watch the last five minutes of a show and say it wasn't as
good as last week? Are you saying that the last five minutes of last
nights show wasn't as good as the last five minute of last weeks show?
What about the final five minutes of the first show?
Who wants to compare the first five minutes? I thought the 30 seconds
before the commercial break wasn't as good as the 30 seconds before
the commercial break in the first show, although the 30 seconds before
the break in the Cake epsiode was funnier.
--
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some bloke
On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Andrew Virnuls wrote:
> In article <330128...@brookes.ac.uk>, Jacqui <9615...@brookes.ac.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > some bloke wrote:
> >
> > > I am proud to be at the university that God attended.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Dyawanna fight about that mate?
>
> So, what degree did God do, then? He has a beard, doesn't he? And he's
> unemployed. It must have been an Arts course.
>
> Did he really get the A' levels, or did he use his connections to get in
> (like the Prince of Wales)? Which LEA paid his fees?
Sorry, but you've got me all wrong. What I meant is that to the best of
my knowledge, Chris Morris (i.e. god) is an Oxford lad (Ianucci and Baynham
AFAIK went my college, univ)
Sorry for the confusion. I was wondering why I was getting death threats!
MC
Nick Mailer
[stuff deleted]
> Sorry, but you've got me all wrong. What I meant is that to the best of
> my knowledge, Chris Morris (i.e. god) is an Oxford lad (Ianucci and
Baynham
> AFAIK went my college, univ)
Morris read Zoology at Bristol. So unless he did some post-graduating at
Oxford, I feel you're both wrong.
some bloke
So, anyone know how morris got caught up with Ianucci et al.?
MC
some bloke
> Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
> possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
> start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
> mins. of last night's show (watched that bloody crap football team
> instead) but what I saw wasn't up to the standard of the previous two
> weeks.
It was certainly different: more like TDT but it was still superb. I
still found myself gasping for breath at the mere mention of 'wobbly
matter' and 'heavy electricity'. I also want to start a fan club for the
right/wrong thing with the little red arrow.
'I know you might thinkthere there'll be a problem with wind... but there
doesn't have to be wind, does there?'
Harley Street: A top-whack quack shack
MC
Martin Aslett
On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Darren Meldrum wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:26:01 +0000, Martin Aslett
> <ma1...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> >Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
> >possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
> >start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
> >mins. of last night's show (watched that bloody crap football team
> >instead) but what I saw wasn't up to the standard of the previous two
> >weeks.
>
> How can you watch the last five minutes of a show and say it wasn't as
> good as last week? Are you saying that the last five minutes of last
> nights show wasn't as good as the last five minute of last weeks show?
> What about the final five minutes of the first show?
Picky picky picky! Perhaps if I'd said "the last 5 mins. wasn't up to the
standard of the previous two shows" it would read better (but what I wrote
didn't imply in anyway that I was only talking about the final 5 mins).
Anyway, for all I know, the first 20 mins. or so may have been pure
unadulterated Chris Morris at his best but the last 5 minutes was just
wasn't quite of the same vintage as all of the previous 2 episodes. Still
thought it was funny however.
> Who wants to compare the first five minutes? I thought the 30 seconds
> before the commercial break wasn't as good as the 30 seconds before
> the commercial break in the first show, although the 30 seconds before
> the break in the Cake epsiode was funnier.
Nah, the first 17.6637 seconds of the 30 seconds before the break of the
Cake episode were excellent but the final 12.3363 seconds before the break
were crap :)
Martin
Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970213112148.16050D-
100...@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk>, Martin Aslett <ma1...@cus.cam.ac.uk>
writes
>Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
>possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
>start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
>mins. of last night's show (watched that bloody crap football team
>instead) but what I saw wasn't up to the standard of the previous two
>weeks.
Perhaps it was novelty value, but I have to say that the first episode
was IMO far better than the subsequent 2. I think they did get Jenny
Powell, but it was pretty much a Gotcha type gag really. I prefer the
ones where theyhave to give their opinions on s piece of tape. The 2
foot testis was a corker.
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Mike Plowman
Martin Aslett <ma1...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
>possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
>start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
>mins. of last night's show (
Then you missed the funniest part of the whole thing. Chris Morris as
Stephen Hawkings was simply the most spiteful, hilarious thing I have
seen on TV in a long time.
Though I am now starting to think that a great many of the victims are
in on the joke, Bekhoff and Briers, I'm sure, were aware that it was
for a spoof show, the scripts were too obvious not to be IMO.
Mike Plowman
There was life before Coronation Street,
but it didn't amount to much.
Russell Harty
Elvis Presley
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970213131615.20936A-100000@teaching14>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
>What I meant is that to the best of
>my knowledge, Chris Morris (i.e. god) is an Oxford lad
Oh, and he's doing a marvellous job of putting an end to celeb worship
isn't he?
Nick Mailer
Elvis Presley <el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<1mTcLEA9...@presley.demon.co.uk>...
> In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970213131615.20936A-100000@teaching14>, some
> bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
> >What I meant is that to the best of
> >my knowledge, Chris Morris (i.e. god) is an Oxford lad
>
> Oh, and he's doing a marvellous job of putting an end to celeb worship
> isn't he?
He is. But God isn't a celeb. He's an uber-celeb.
some bloke
> >Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
> >possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
> >start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
> >mins. of last night's show (
>
> Then you missed the funniest part of the whole thing. Chris Morris as
> Stephen Hawkings was simply the most spiteful, hilarious thing I have
> seen on TV in a long time.
> Though I am now starting to think that a great many of the victims are
> in on the joke, Bekhoff and Briers, I'm sure, were aware that it was
> for a spoof show, the scripts were too obvious not to be IMO.
Knowing Morris, it is some kind of elaborate double bluff. Fool the
celebs in the first two episodes, to make Joe Public to feel superior to
them, and from then on, let some of the celebs in on it, so that Morris
can laugh back at Joe for being as bloody stupid as the celebs. I
wouldn't put it past him, but we may never know.
If Ms. Powell wasn't in on it, then I really do feel for her- she needs help.
Oh dear, there's some strato-syphilis clouds drifting in. It might start
raining upwards.
MC
some bloke
> Oh, and he's doing a marvellous job of putting an end to celeb worship
> isn't he?
I don't worship him; in fact, I am exremely weary of him and wouldn't
trust him as far as I could comfortably spit him. But, that doesn't stop
me admiring the fact that he has produced many of the funniest TV
programs of all time, and think how great it would be if I could do what
he seems to do with such great ease.
Oh, BTW I've only been posting to this group for a couple of days, and
so far, the only exchange between us has been negative and insulting. I
think from now on, I will only use nice words in my e-mail (except if
conversation gets back round to David Amess MP)
MC
wa...@intergate.bc.ca
In article <$49+sXAH...@presley.demon.co.uk>, Elvis Presley
<el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <33018736...@news.dial.pipex.com>, Darren Meldrum
> <mel...@dial.pipex.com> writes
> >On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:07:32 +0000, Elvis Presley
> ><el...@presley.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>! Rory Bremner? Funny? Do you get a different version of Channel 4 from
> >>me?
> >
> >He said that Rory Bemner was keeping satire alive, which is quite
> >correct. He didn't say anything about being funny.
> >
>
> He may be keeping it alive, but I think it's time he gave careful
> consideration to its quality of life. Maybe it'd be kinder to turn off
> the life support.....
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Have to agree about the South African's Song on Spitting
Image,though!"I've met a handsome merman and a fairly modest German,but
I've never met a nice South African."
P.S.Who is this Elvis bloke who keeps posting stuff in here? I thought
he'd last been seen on Mars? Or am I reading the wrong tabloid?
Rhodri
some bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> I am having a great deal of difficulty accepting the fact that
> Briers could honestly talk about 'heavy electricity' and 'invisible lead
> soup' and not realise it was a joke. 'Wobbly Matter'. Help. I am
> beginning to doubt my own faith in BE and CM... what do I do?
just before the 'wobbly matter' bit, Nick Owen was shown asking if
that's really what it was called. Presumably any doubts he had were
removed, as next we see him saying "as the scientists call it, 'wobbly
matter'".
Genius.
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In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.970212222017.107C-100000@teaching8>, some
bloke <cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes
>> frankly, the one who comes off worst is Noel"Antichrist" Edmunds, who's whole
>> show is based around humiliating 'ordinary' people, which presumably is
>> alright, and family entertainment. ho hum.
>
>but surely there is not a human alive could believe what she said: 'there is a
>negligible probability (about 20 to 1) that scotland will go down like a
>lead ballon propelling the south-easy rapidly towards Finland.'
>
>Briers could honestly talk about 'heavy electricity' and 'invisible lead
>soup' and not realise it was a joke. 'Wobbly Matter'. Help. I am
>beginning to doubt my own faith in BE and CM... what do I do?
>
>
If it wasn't for all the fuss they've made about it you wouldn't believe
it would you. The thing with Eve Pollard and the 2 foot long testicle
living its life out in agonising pain was top banannas. As for Jenny
Powell. It was obviously her first reading of the script, so she
possibly didn't have too long to think about it. Still, they got her I
reckon.
David Patrick
mike.p...@dial.pipex.com (Mike Plowman) wrote:
>Martin Aslett <ma1...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Why do I always get the feeling that some of the celebs (Briers and
>>possibly Stephen Berkoff last night) are in on the whole thing from the
>>start? I hope for her sake Jenny Powell was too. I only saw the last 5
>>mins. of last night's show (
>
>Then you missed the funniest part of the whole thing. Chris Morris as
>Stephen Hawkings was simply the most spiteful, hilarious thing I have
>seen on TV in a long time.
>Though I am now starting to think that a great many of the victims are
>in on the joke, Bekhoff and Briers, I'm sure, were aware that it was
>for a spoof show, the scripts were too obvious not to be IMO.
Berkoff was grinning from ear to ear when he finished his bit, but
Jenny Powell was on auto pilot. She seemed to believe what she was
babbling on about and she's no actor.
But that weather girl going on about upside down clouds must have been
in on it. I mean, we all know that weather girls are supposed to be
thick, but if she can walk and talk at the same time she must have
known what was going on.
The celebs were weak this time, but the other bits made up for it. Ted
Maul's commando style raid for instance or the mock trial.
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NCR Morris
some bloke (cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: Sorry, but you've got me all wrong. What I meant is that to the best of
: my knowledge, Chris Morris (i.e. god) is an Oxford lad (Ianucci and Baynham
Peter Baynham didn't go to Oxford either. In fact he didn't go to
university at all. He ran away to sea... (to join the merchant navy).
Iannucci did, as did David Schneider, Patrick Marber and Rebecca Front
(it was here where they all met).
NEIL (no relation) MORRIS
some bloke
Well the Chaplain of university college is quite clear on schneider,
Ianucci, lee and herring, and various others as being Oxford lads. I am
obviously mistaken about baynham, and I apologise...
MC
NCR Morris
Distribution:
some bloke (cox...@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
:
:
: Well the Chaplain of university college is quite clear on schneider,
: Ianucci, lee and herring, and various others as being Oxford lads. I am
: obviously mistaken about baynham, and I apologise...
:
: MC
No need to apologise (I wasn't having a go!). Good golly! How courteous
(and on e-mail too!) !
NEIL (no relation) MORRIS
Steve Paget
>'I know you might thinkthere there'll be a problem with wind... but there
>doesn't have to be wind, does there?'
Actually, it was "... but for goodness sake, who says there's going to
BE a strong wind?"
What a silly cow!
I loved Ted Maul's reaction to the poor woman who was growing balls on
her back.
Woman - "It was like having a sabre dug into your back, and then
twisted around. It was like that 24 hours a day"
Ted - (REALLY QUITE AND OFF-MIKE)
"Fuck me"
And what about the reaction of the Harley Street doctor to Ted's
Cook-Reportesque invasion? Pulling faces and throwing papers!
"It's not cool to be weird, you know."
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