David Wicks
Angela Cowley
repeating a thread!
The headlines in the Sunday Mirror today read:
Soap Hunk's Gay Secret
Michael French's affair with Albert Square cop
Britain's biggest soap heart-throb is having a gay love affair with another
EastEnders actor.
When the cameras stop rolling, Michael turns to co-star Bryan Lawrence,
who plays a togh cop in the show, for love.
I guess this leaves Lindsey 'Carol Jackson' Coulson's husband on shaky
ground, since he named Michael French in his divorce...then again, maybe
he swings both ways!
Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
Angela Cowley
Terry Elliott
<Ang...@squig.demon.co.uk> writes
>Snipped
>I guess this leaves Lindsey 'Carol Jackson' Coulson's husband on shaky
>ground, since he named Michael French in his divorce...then again, maybe
>he swings both ways!
>
>Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
>
>Angela Cowley
--
Cheers and Beers
Terry Elliott
Sunderland England
Cindy
>Demon's news server is having a few problems at the moment, so I hope I'm not
>repeating a thread!
>The headlines in the Sunday Mirror today read:
Isn't the "Mirror" the UK equivalent of the US "Enquirer"? If so, do
people actually BELIEVE what's reported therein?
>
>Soap Hunk's Gay Secret
>Michael French's affair with Albert Square cop
>Britain's biggest soap heart-throb is having a gay love affair with another
>EastEnders actor.
>When the cameras stop rolling, Michael turns to co-star Bryan Lawrence,
>who plays a togh cop in the show, for love.
I seems unlikely to me, considering the wide acceptance of gays
particularly in the artistic community, that a high profile actor on a
highly rated program such as EE would feel it necessary to stay "in the
closet".
>
>
>I guess this leaves Lindsey 'Carol Jackson' Coulson's husband on shaky
>ground, since he named Michael French in his divorce...then again, maybe
>he swings both ways!
>
>Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
>
While MF *may* be a "notch" above average in the looks department, IMO,
gorgeous seems a bit of reach. (Of course, his character is such a slug
that it is hard for me to gauge his looks objectively!)
Why do the sexual practices of others interest us so much? (Including
the hetrosexual relationships.) I can't imagine what possible difference
it could make unless someone were considering the object of interest as a
potential mate. (I for one never even plan to "lay-eyes" on MF in real
life, much less become personally involved in his sex life!) And at the
same time, as when I pass an auto accident, there is a morbid desire to
look, and to know all the sordid details. Ah, the human condition....
Cindy
Robert Rumsby
>Demon's news server is having a few problems at the moment, so I hope I'm not
>repeating a thread!
>The headlines in the Sunday Mirror today read:
>
>Michael French's affair with Albert Square cop
>Britain's biggest soap heart-throb is having a gay love affair with another
>EastEnders actor.
>When the cameras stop rolling, Michael turns to co-star Bryan Lawrence,
>who plays a togh cop in the show, for love.
>
>
>ground, since he named Michael French in his divorce...then again, maybe
>he swings both ways!
>
>Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
>
Speak for yourself sweetie!!!!!!
As they say like mother like son!!!!
bfn
bob r
paterson nj
Angela Cowley
te...@thelinds.demon.co.uk "Terry Elliott" writes:
> In article <827691...@squig.demon.co.uk>, Angela Cowley
> <Ang...@squig.demon.co.uk> writes
> >Snipped
> >I guess this leaves Lindsey 'Carol Jackson' Coulson's husband on shaky
> >ground, since he named Michael French in his divorce...then again, maybe
> >he swings both ways!
> >
> >Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
> >
> >Angela Cowley
> Not all of us, Angie baby.....!
>
> --
> Cheers and Beers
> Terry Elliott
> Sunderland England
>
>
Which EE star do you most resemble then? Or are you as devastatingly handsome
as another star? Come on, now Terry, tell the girls!
--
Angela Cowley
Jane Pook
I think Terry has already made it quite clear that he doesn't resemble
any of the EE men - he implied he's gorgeous, so that certainly
rules out any of the blokes on EE, including that awful greasy spaniard
who was supposed to be charming and sexy!! YEUK!!.
It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
right mind would go for them!!
Scapade
>I think Terry has already made it quite clear that he doesn't resemble
>any of the EE men - he implied he's gorgeous, so that certainly
>rules out any of the blokes on EE, including that awful greasy spaniard
>who was supposed to be charming and sexy!! YEUK!!.
Ah. Note the phrase "greasy spaniard" (as well as the inappropriate
failure to capitalize the "S" in the proper noun). Just think: it was
only last week that this same Pook was declaiming that the British have
far broader cultural horizons than Americans because they travel so widely
and so often. Your horizons have broadened to encompass what, Jane?
Scathing bigotry?
Susan
Linda
>>> In article <827691...@squig.demon.co.uk>, Angela Cowley
>>> >
>>> >Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
>>> >
>>> Not all of us, Angie baby.....!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers and Beers
>>> Terry Elliott
>>> Sunderland England
>>>
>>>
>>Which EE star do you most resemble then? Or are you as devastatingly handsome
>>as another star? Come on, now Terry, tell the girls!
>>--
>>
>>Angela Cowley
>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
>and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
>so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
>David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
>slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
>right mind would go for them!!
I completely agree - and another one you can add to the list is Tricky
Dicky (sort of). Well, I don't think he was good looking, but in the
story he was supposed to be the devilishly handsome kind, but he was
also slimy and horrible.
Terry Elliott
>
>>
>> >
>> >Oh why are all the gorgeous men gay?!
>> >
>> Not all of us, Angie baby.....!
>>
>> --
>> Cheers and Beers
>> Terry Elliott
>> Sunderland England
>>
>>
>Which EE star do you most resemble then? Or are you as devastatingly handsome
>as another star? Come on, now Terry, tell the girls!
>--
>
>Angela Cowley
Well ladies.....hang on to your hats....(or any other items of apparell
which may be in jeapordy)....
.....................BIG RON..........................!
Mark Styles
>jz...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jane Pook) wrote:
>>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on
>>there and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make
>>the character so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any
>>intelligent woman.
>>David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
>>slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone
>>in their right mind would go for them!!
>
>I completely agree - and another one you can add to the list is Tricky
>Dicky (sort of). Well, I don't think he was good looking, but in the
>story he was supposed to be the devilishly handsome kind, but he was
>also slimy and horrible.
I thought you women always went for the complete bastards, therefore
the reason you only fancy the characters who are slimey, smarmy and
nasty is because they are slimey, smarmy and nasty! :-)
What about Mark, he's a nice chap, don't you fancy him?
Or wossname, Teds son, he seems like a nice enough bloke.
Alan Jackson? Steady, reliable(ish)...
Then of course there is the ultimate nice guy, Nigel :-)
You gals have got loads of choice, especially compared to the severe
lack of nice girlies on the show. Sarah is the best, but she's hardly
in EE any more (urgh, I feel like a cradle snatcher saying that, she
must be older in RL though!).
--
** Mark Styles aka Small -- Opinions expressed here are my own -- **
** ma...@teleord.co.uk -- unless otherwise specified -- **
** Make Tea, Not Love **
Angela Cowley
> >as another star? Come on, now Terry, tell the girls!
> >--
> >
> >Angela Cowley
>
> Well ladies.....hang on to your hats....(or any other items of apparell
> which may be in jeapordy)....
>
> .....................BIG RON..........................!
>
> --
> Cheers and Beers
> Terry Elliott
> Sunderland England
>
>
Personally, I have always found Grant very attractive! He looks nothing like my
fella though.
--
Angela Cowley
Tim Stannard
<ma...@sensible.teleord.co.uk> writes
<SNIPS>
> Sarah is the best, but she's hardly
>in EE any more (urgh, I feel like a cradle snatcher saying that, she
>must be older in RL though!).
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Of course she is - we all know the programmes are recorded six weeks in
advance - hence she's six weeks older in real life!
Feel any less of a perv now ? :)
--
Tim Stannard
Mark Styles
>Mark Styles <ma...@sensible.teleord.co.uk> writes
>>Sarah is the best, but she's hardly in EE any more (urgh, I feel
>>like a cradle snatcher saying that, she must be older in RL though!).
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Of course she is - we all know the programmes are recorded six weeks in
>advance - hence she's six weeks older in real life!
>
>Feel any less of a perv now ? :)
Yes, thankyou, that makes me feel much better ;-)
BTW, After Terry stunned the world by announcing he looks like
Big Ron, I've been considering who I most resemble, and after
much deliberation, the best I can come up with is.....
no, sorry, I can't say it, its too embarassing.
Jane Pook
Well, I can't quite believe anyone could be as stupid as you demonstrate
here, but I will explain very simply for your benefit.
*You* think that Guillermo is a greasy creep so you assume all Spaniards
are greasy creeps?
It appears to be you who is guilty of some serious bigotry if you think that
one description of a particular creep is representative of the entire race.
Note, I didn't describe Jose as a greasy creep because he didn't suck up
in that repulsively sycophantic and obviously insincere way to Sam's mother
just to get into the daughter's knickers.
You have an amazing ability to jump to totally unwarranted conclusion from
individual examples. Your assumption is totally ridiculous and
if one were to extend your amazingly bad logic, you would
think that because I think Ruth has a bad haircut then you
assume all Scots women have bad haircuts?
Other stupid assumptions that your logic dictates:
I describe Grant as a psychopath, therefore since Grant is a Londoner
all Londoners are balding psychopaths who dribble snot?
David is a slimy liar, so all British used car salesmen
are slimy liars? (haha well...)
Sanjay is an unfaithful gambling liar so all Indians are unfaithful gamblers?
If you really want to infer these ridiculous generalisations, go ahead, but
I suggest you don't depend on my adjectives describing an individual
to form your outlook on the entire world's population.
Jane Pook
Mark Styles <ma...@teleord.co.uk> wrote:
>Linda <hawo...@logica.com> wrote:
>>jz...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jane Pook) wrote:
>>>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on
>>>there and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make
>>>the character so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any
>>>intelligent woman.
>>>David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
>>>slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone
>>>in their right mind would go for them!!
>>
>>I completely agree - and another one you can add to the list is Tricky
>>Dicky (sort of). Well, I don't think he was good looking, but in the
>>story he was supposed to be the devilishly handsome kind, but he was
>>also slimy and horrible.
>
YES! How on earth did he manage to bed Kathy and was it Rachel too?!?
He was not only totally ugly but had a nasty personality too.
>I thought you women always went for the complete bastards, therefore
>the reason you only fancy the characters who are slimey, smarmy and
>nasty is because they are slimey, smarmy and nasty! :-)
You should get out and meet some different women, unless of course you
are a slimy bastard in which case the ones you're thinking of are probably
already going nuts over you!
>
>What about Mark, he's a nice chap, don't you fancy him?
He's a nice chap, and used to be one of the better ones in a nice-but-dim
way but he's become a very boring character since he got married.
>Or wossname, Teds son, he seems like a nice enough bloke.
Tony? Yes, he is just about the most attractive bloke there, and pretty
sharp too.
Still, I suspect he's going to be a real bastard. He hasn't done anything
really bad yet...only a little bit of blackmail of his sister.
And he's a lazy git who'll do anything to avoid a bit of hard work.
You're right he hasn't got the slimy patter with women, but he's definitely
into some dodgy dealing with that Dan.
>Alan Jackson? Steady, reliable(ish)...
Yes, he is about the most sensible and normal person in the whole square.
>Then of course there is the ultimate nice guy, Nigel :-)
Oh dear!!! Unfortunately just looking at his clothes would give
me a migrane (and I've never had one before!)
>
>You gals have got loads of choice, especially compared to the severe
But you left out my favourite, Willy. I just love his cardigans and his
tastefully decorated house, not to mention his sexy way of chasing
Pauline and his wonderful way with words of abject and desperate begging.
>lack of nice girlies on the show. Sarah is the best, but she's hardly
>in EE any more (urgh, I feel like a cradle snatcher saying that, she
>must be older in RL though!).
I think Tiffany is very pretty, as long as you don't mind a lot of make-up -
but then that was supposed to be her profession. And she's the only
one there with a really good figure.
What about Ruth, if you can understand what she's saying. (Or perhaps you
don't care anyway - it's only nagging)?
Apart from them almost every other female has very bad roots or some other
bad hair disaster.
Jane
Mark Styles
>Mark Styles <ma...@teleord.co.uk> wrote:
>>I thought you women always went for the complete bastards, therefore
>>the reason you only fancy the characters who are slimey, smarmy and
>>nasty is because they are slimey, smarmy and nasty! :-)
>
>You should get out and meet some different women, unless of course you
>are a slimy bastard in which case the ones you're thinking of are probably
>already going nuts over you!
No, I'm a very nice guy, verging on Nigel niceness, and I've been
dumped on numerous occasions for the classic 'complete bastard to
women' category of men. Maybe thats because I grew up in Essex, we
all know what Essex girls are like ;-)
>>Then of course there is the ultimate nice guy, Nigel :-)
>
>Oh dear!!! Unfortunately just looking at his clothes would give
>me a migrane (and I've never had one before!)
How very superficial of you, you have to look deeper, at the kind,
loving, caring person that Nigel is.
>>lack of nice girlies on the show. Sarah is the best, but she's hardly
>>in EE any more (urgh, I feel like a cradle snatcher saying that, she
>>must be older in RL though!).
>
>I think Tiffany is very pretty, as long as you don't mind a lot of make-up -
>but then that was supposed to be her profession. And she's the only
>one there with a really good figure.
Tiffany is very attractive, definately a 'babe', but her personality
is quite terrible. (From what I've heard the actress is a much nicer
person in RL though...)
>What about Ruth, if you can understand what she's saying. (Or perhaps you
>don't care anyway - it's only nagging)?
Ruth is quite nice, when she wants to be, but she does nag too much.
I get enough of that when I visit my Mother :-)
>Apart from them almost every other female has very bad roots or some other
>bad hair disaster.
Depends on your preference, but I think Bianca has great hair. In fact
when Bianca is happy (she managed to stay happy for nearly three weeks
before the fight in the vic) she is a very attractive person, but then
she turns into this raging demon of a person when she gets upset!
Scapade
>*You* think that Guillermo is a greasy creep so you assume all Spaniards
>are greasy creeps?
>It appears to be you who is guilty of some serious bigotry if you think
that
>one description of a particular creep is representative of the entire
race.
Jane, *you* wrote the phrase "greasy spaniard." If your point was that
Guillermo is a greasy creep, then you should have said so. By invoking
his nationality in an insulting way, you have betrayed your own bigotry.
Meanwhile, I have nothing to be bigoted about -- I've never seen the EE
character you so obnoxiously described.
Susan
Steve Biggs
OK, so neither of you/both of you are bigoted! Now back to the plot...
Steve.
Nathan Bliss
>
> Tim Stannard <stan...@adhoc.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Mark Styles <ma...@sensible.teleord.co.uk> writes
> >>like a cradle snatcher saying that, she must be older in RL though!).
> >Of course she is - we all know the programmes are recorded six weeks in
> >advance - hence she's six weeks older in real life!
> >
> >Feel any less of a perv now ? :)
>
> Yes, thankyou, that makes me feel much better ;-)
>
> BTW, After Terry stunned the world by announcing he looks like
> Big Ron, I've been considering who I most resemble, and after
> much deliberation, the best I can come up with is.....
> no, sorry, I can't say it, its too embarassing.
>
> ** Mark Styles aka Small -- Opinions expressed here are my own -- **
> ** ma...@teleord.co.uk -- unless otherwise specified -- **
> ** Make Tea, Not Love **
It's not Peggy is it?! :-)
If Terry said he looks like Big Ron, then I sincerely hope there aren't any others
out there that do - I would hate to see the Tooth-Fairy go bankrupt!!!!!!!!! :-)
Nathan
Angela Cowley
qualities?
--
Angela Cowley
Robert Rumsby
>
>YES! How on earth did he manage to bed Kathy and was it Rachel too?!?
>He was not only totally ugly but had a nasty personality too.
>
his credit cards and started sending him presents from his secret
admirer.
Robert Rumsby
>
>No, I'm a very nice guy, verging on Nigel niceness, and I've been
>dumped on numerous occasions for the classic 'complete bastard to
>women' category of men. Maybe thats because I grew up in Essex, we
>all know what Essex girls are like ;-)
>
That was probably caused by to much Barking on the Thames!
Mark Styles
>So, Mark, are we to assume you look like Nigel? Or do you just have his
>qualities?
I certainly don't look like Nigel, although I've been told I'm
putting on weight...
As for having Nigels qualities, well I would be far too modest to
agree ;-)
John J Smith
>Pooklet wrote:
>
>>*You* think that Guillermo is a greasy creep so you assume all Spaniards
>>are greasy creeps?
>>It appears to be you who is guilty of some serious bigotry if you think
>that
>>one description of a particular creep is representative of the entire
>race.
>
>Jane, *you* wrote the phrase "greasy spaniard." If your point was that
>Guillermo is a greasy creep, then you should have said so. By invoking
>his nationality in an insulting way, you have betrayed your own bigotry.
>Meanwhile, I have nothing to be bigoted about -- I've never seen the EE
>character you so obnoxiously described.
Do you ever feel as if you've been invaded by a bunch of overreactive
americans, bent on flamewars and not willing to talk about anything
related to eastenders?
Typical Tactic: Flaunting PC as an argument. Cannot say black basketball
player without saying Black basketball player, though not all black people
are good at basketball, please let me patronise them some more.
Smid
PS - That bloke was pretty greasy. The same way that some scots are
drunkards (me included), and some irish are stupid (I'd be impressed
if none were)
Jane Pook
>
>>*You* think that Guillermo is a greasy creep so you assume all Spaniards
>>are greasy creeps?
>>It appears to be you who is guilty of some serious bigotry if you think
>that
>>one description of a particular creep is representative of the entire
>race.
>
>Jane, *you* wrote the phrase "greasy spaniard." If your point was that
>Guillermo is a greasy creep, then you should have said so. By invoking
Are you *very* stupid? I thought he was greasy and said so. In fact you have
quoted the phrase.
This is *precisely* what I said - "the greasy spaniard".
Since Guillermo(whose name I temporarily forgot) is the only Spaniard
we've seen in the series in the recent past, it was absolutely obvious
to everyone (except you!!) that he was the subject of the description.
>his nationality in an insulting way, you have betrayed your own bigotry.
It may be that "Spaniard" is derogatory in the US, but in Europe it is
most definitely not. You have betrayed only your own ignorance
of English terminology.
If *anyone* has any evidence that "Spaniard" is considered derogatory
in England, then I'd be interested to hear it and I would naturally concede
that you are correct, however if it is only in the US (and I'm not remotely
convinced that you're right in this - any US people know this? - Nathan?)
then I'm certainly going to continue to use the word as the normal
reference for a person of Spanish origin.
I suspect that if we were to take a poll, most people would agree with me,
that Spaniard is a non-derogatory descriptive term for the race.
If one were racist, then terms like "wop" or "spic" would probably be used.
Since you're obviously easily confused, I think you (and everyone) would
have been confused if I'd said the "greasy bloke", since it could have referred
to any number of people, including Phil and Ricky who are literally greasy from
their job, and David and Guppy who are greasy in personality. You really
do have a problem with English comprehension: perhaps you should consult
someone who has a better understanding of English before attempting to argue
a point about language, certainly with me. You simply demonstrate your
ignorance at every attempt.
>-- I've never seen the EE
>character you so obnoxiously described.
Hahah typical. So naturally you immediately jump into a conversation
about him and voice your opinion about a character which you
have never seen and about whom you have no information? How very
American of you to conjure up an opinion from absolutely no evidence.
An intelligent person would refrain from jumping to incorrect
conclusions and making such ill-informed comments until in
possession of the full facts.
I bet all the other Americans here love you and your demonstrations
of all those deficiencies in intelligence and logic that I'm always
commenting upon. You really demonstrate what an AOL is remarkably well.
Scapade
>most definitely not. You have betrayed only your own ignorance
>of English terminology.
Apparently Logic wasn't one of your "O" levels. The word "Spaniard" is
not derogatory per se, nor did I suggest such a thing; but when you couple
a derogatory word such as "greasy" with a national identification like
"Spaniard," you are negatively implicating a nationality, not merely one
individual.
>>-- I've never seen the EE
>>character you so obnoxiously described.
>Hahah typical. So naturally you immediately jump into a conversation
>about him and voice your opinion about a character which you
>have never seen and about whom you have no information? How very
>American of you to conjure up an opinion from absolutely no evidence.
You really are reading-impaired, aren't you? I never voiced any opinion
whatsoever about the fellow, since -- as I noted -- I have never seen him.
But once again your narrow-minded bigotry is showing: this time,
anti-American.
But as always - please keep posting. The more you write, the more you
expose your myriad deficiencies.
Susan
Dave Christy
snip
>>
>>Jane, *you* wrote the phrase "greasy spaniard." If your point was that
>>Guillermo is a greasy creep, then you should have said so. By invoking
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Are you *very* stupid? I thought he was greasy and said so. In fact you have
>quoted the phrase.
>This is *precisely* what I said - "the greasy spaniard".
>Since Guillermo(whose name I temporarily forgot) is the only Spaniard
>we've seen in the series in the recent past, it was absolutely obvious
>to everyone (except you!!) that he was the subject of the description.
>
>>his nationality in an insulting way, you have betrayed your own bigotry.
>
>It may be that "Spaniard" is derogatory in the US, but in Europe it is
>most definitely not. You have betrayed only your own ignorance
>of English terminology.
>
>If *anyone* has any evidence that "Spaniard" is considered derogatory
>in England, then I'd be interested to hear it and I would naturally concede
>that you are correct, however if it is only in the US (and I'm not remotely
>convinced that you're right in this - any US people know this? - Nathan?)
>then I'm certainly going to continue to use the word as the normal
>reference for a person of Spanish origin.
>
>I suspect that if we were to take a poll, most people would agree with me,
>that Spaniard is a non-derogatory descriptive term for the race.
>If one were racist, then terms like "wop" or "spic" would probably be used.
>
>Since you're obviously easily confused, I think you (and everyone) would
>have been confused if I'd said the "greasy bloke", since it could have referred
>to any number of people, including Phil and Ricky who are literally greasy from
>their job, and David and Guppy who are greasy in personality. You really
>do have a problem with English comprehension: perhaps you should consult
>someone who has a better understanding of English before attempting to argue
>a point about language, certainly with me. You simply demonstrate your
>ignorance at every attempt.
>
>>-- I've never seen the EE
>>character you so obnoxiously described.
>
>Hahah typical. So naturally you immediately jump into a conversation
>about him and voice your opinion about a character which you
>have never seen and about whom you have no information? How very
>American of you to conjure up an opinion from absolutely no evidence.
>
>An intelligent person would refrain from jumping to incorrect
>conclusions and making such ill-informed comments until in
>possession of the full facts.
>
>I bet all the other Americans here love you and your demonstrations
>of all those deficiencies in intelligence and logic that I'm always
>commenting upon. You really demonstrate what an AOL is remarkably well.
>
ROTFL
Oh, Well done, Jane. You never cease to amaze me. I will probably save
this retort for my humor file. ;-)
David
Leonard Brown
Nathan Bliss <ndb...@prl.philips.co.uk> writes:
> Mark Styles wrote:
> > BTW, After Terry stunned the world by announcing he looks like
> > Big Ron, I've been considering who I most resemble, and after
> > much deliberation, the best I can come up with is.....
> > no, sorry, I can't say it, its too embarassing.
> It's not Peggy is it?! :-)
> Nathan
Well the only other decent EE actor Mark could look like is.....WELLHARD
<BG>
--
See Ya
Lenny
(lenny...@zetnet.co.uk)
Sally Mitchell
>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
>and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
>so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
>David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
>slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
>right mind would go for them!!
I always thought Grant was a bit of alright - apart from his tiny flaw
of having no eye lashes.
andy
>any of the EE men - he implied he's gorgeous, so that certainly
>rules out any of the blokes on EE, including that awful greasy spaniard
>who was supposed to be charming and sexy!! YEUK!!.
>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
>and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the
>character so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any
>intelligent woman. David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as
>revolting slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if
>anyone in their right mind would go for them!!
Do women really prefer Nigel then???
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many conflicts.
Paula
>But as always - please keep posting. The more you write, the more you
>expose your myriad deficiencies.
>Susan
Hey Susan,
Trying to reason with the Pookster....now there is an exercise in
futility. And she has always been anti-U.S. She claims the shopgirls
were rude to her...gee, I wonder why...dah!
paula...
Paula
>jz...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jane Pook) wrote:
>snip
>>If *anyone* has any evidence that "Spaniard" is considered derogatory
>>in England, then I'd be interested to hear it and I would naturally concede
>>that you are correct, however if it is only in the US (and I'm not remotely
>>convinced that you're right in this - any US people know this? - Nathan?)
Well, my friend from Spain, says she would not appreciate the greasy
part for sure...the next step would be to call them a greaser...Does a
Spanish opinion count?
>>
>>I suspect that if we were to take a poll, most people would agree with me,
>>that Spaniard is a non-derogatory descriptive term for the race.
When did being Spanish become a race? Now that is a news flash!!
jets
>an...@epma.demon.co.uk (andy) wrote:
>
>>Do women really prefer Nigel then???
>
>Nigel, without a doubt, gets my vote.
>
>Cindy
Did you ever notice how Debs always seemed to cringe when she had to
kiss Nigel? Now that I think about it, most of the "couples" are
distractingly unconvincing in their displays of affection. Not that
I'd like to see the secret X-rated version of EE, mind you. (Shudder.)
Nathan Bliss
>
> In article <4je71s$8...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Scapade <sca...@aol.com> wrote:
> >Jane wrote:
> >
> >>*You* think that Guillermo is a greasy creep so you assume all Spaniards
> >>are greasy creeps?
> >>It appears to be you who is guilty of some serious bigotry if you think
> >that
> >>one description of a particular creep is representative of the entire
> >race.
> >
> >Guillermo is a greasy creep, then you should have said so. By invoking
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Are you *very* stupid? I thought he was greasy and said so. In fact you have
> quoted the phrase.
> This is *precisely* what I said - "the greasy spaniard".
> Since Guillermo(whose name I temporarily forgot) is the only Spaniard
> we've seen in the series in the recent past, it was absolutely obvious
> to everyone (except you!!) that he was the subject of the description.
>
> >his nationality in an insulting way, you have betrayed your own bigotry.
>
> It may be that "Spaniard" is derogatory in the US, but in Europe it is
> most definitely not. You have betrayed only your own ignorance
> of English terminology.
>
> in England, then I'd be interested to hear it and I would naturally concede
> that you are correct, however if it is only in the US (and I'm not remotely
> convinced that you're right in this - any US people know this? - Nathan?)
No - I`m afraid I don't know Jane.
:-)
> then I'm certainly going to continue to use the word as the normal
> reference for a person of Spanish origin.
>
> I suspect that if we were to take a poll, most people would agree with me,
> that Spaniard is a non-derogatory descriptive term for the race.
Nathan Bliss
> >and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
> >so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
> >David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
> >slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
> >right mind would go for them!!
>
> of having no eye lashes.
And the slightly bigger flaw of looking exactly like a cabbage patch doll!
Nathan
Jane Pook
andy <an...@epma.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I think Terry has already made it quite clear that he doesn't resemble
>>any of the EE men - he implied he's gorgeous, so that certainly
>>rules out any of the blokes on EE, including that awful greasy spaniard
>>who was supposed to be charming and sexy!! YEUK!!.
>
>>and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the
>>character so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any
>>intelligent woman. David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as
>>revolting slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if
>>anyone in their right mind would go for them!!
>
If you're comparing with David and Guppy, yes.
As for comparing with the other EE men, "prefer" probably depends on
the context. He's too much of a wimp to be preferable in most situations,
as he's sometimes dishonest through fear of repercussions.
Cindy
>On 31 Mar 1996 01:03:47 GMT, Cindy <wind...@mail.stlnet.com> wrote:
>
>>an...@epma.demon.co.uk (andy) wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Cindy
>
>Did you ever notice how Debs always seemed to cringe when she had to
>kiss Nigel? Now that I think about it, most of the "couples" are
>distractingly unconvincing in their displays of affection.
Now that you mention it....
Although the Sharon/Phil affair was pretty "steamy"; the most pathetic
have to be Ricky and Bianca who always "peck" at each other as if one has
some kind of communicable disease! (Have always had the feeling that the
actors who play Ricky and Bianca don't much like each other; no
chemistry at all.)
> Not that
>I'd like to see the secret X-rated version of EE, mind you. (Shudder.)
>
=8-O Oooo, ick, yuck, eeekkk....
Cindy
Stuart Berman
>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
>and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
>so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
>David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
>slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
>right mind would go for them!!
It is my experience that most women (but not all) are not attracted to
kind generous warm hearted men like Nigel Bates or Lofty. The Dens,
Simon (and David) Wicks of this world would seem to attract far more
attention. The "treat 'em mean keep 'em keen" types always seemed to
have the most success with women.
Stuart Berman
>jz...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jane Pook) wrote:
>>It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
>>and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
>>so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
>>David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
>>slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
>>right mind would go for them!!
>I always thought Grant was a bit of alright - apart from his tiny flaw
>of having no eye lashes.
LOL. What about beating people senseless, is that another tiny flaw?
Cindy
>It is my experience that most women (but not all) are not attracted to
>kind generous warm hearted men like Nigel Bates or Lofty. The Dens,
>Simon (and David) Wicks of this world would seem to attract far more
>attention. The "treat 'em mean keep 'em keen" types always seemed to
>have the most success with women.
>
You definately have a point, and this is likely why the divorce rate is
so high; there is always someone *more* dangerous to be had. While these
"bad boys" may be fun for the short term instant gratification bit, no
woman in her right mind would marry one. I'd take a Nigel or Lofty for
the long haul.
You see, there are men you "date" and men you marry. Blokes like Den and
Simon are in the first category, Nigel and Lofty in the latter.
But you seem like a perceptive guy Stuart, surely you already knew this!
;-)
Cindy
(Happily married for 18 years)
Julie Joyce
>
> jz...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jane Pook) wrote:
>
> >It is a shame they've never managed to get a decent looking actor on there
> >and when they have anyone supposedly good-looking bloke they make the character
> >so slimy and smarmy that he's instantly repulsive to any intelligent woman.
> >David and Guppy are two which instantly spring to mind as revolting
> >slimy liars whom women are supposed to find attractive!! As if anyone in their
> >right mind would go for them!!
>
> kind generous warm hearted men like Nigel Bates or Lofty. The Dens,
> Simon (and David) Wicks of this world would seem to attract far more
> attention. The "treat 'em mean keep 'em keen" types always seemed to
> have the most success with women.
I think Lofty was the sexiest thing ever on EE! I 'm sorry they've
not brought him back. Michelle never realized what a good thing she
had. Remember ladies, those bookish types try harder and they're
always very thankful!!!
JJ in Kanata, Canada
Bindi Bhumbra
> On 31 Mar 1996 01:03:47 GMT, Cindy <wind...@mail.stlnet.com> wrote:
>
> >an...@epma.demon.co.uk (andy) wrote:
> >
> >>Do women really prefer Nigel then???
> >
> >Nigel, without a doubt, gets my vote.
> >
> >Cindy
> Did you ever notice how Debs always seemed to cringe when she had to
> kiss Nigel? Now that I think about it, most of the "couples" are
> distractingly unconvincing in their displays of affection. Not that
> I'd like to see the secret X-rated version of EE, mind you. (Shudder.)
Such as Frank and Pat's one night stand (shudder shudder)
(O shit, I hope Roy doesn't read this newsgroup)
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Bindi Bhumbra
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Lynsey Hill
Angela Cowley
> Angela Cowley <Ang...@squig.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Demon's news server is having a few problems at the moment, so I hope I'm not
> >repeating a thread!
> >The headlines in the Sunday Mirror today read:
>
>
> Isn't the "Mirror" the UK equivalent of the US "Enquirer"? If so, do
> people actually BELIEVE what's reported therein?
Well, whether they believe it or not is debatable, but as for the truth it
relates, unfortunately, this is all too often accurate. For example, they
printed that Princess Di was having secret trysts with Will Carling. I thought,
they're probably just good friends and the Mirror is blowing it out of
proportion. WRONG! They were having an affair.
The newspaper The Sunday Sport is more on par with your National Enquirer I
think.
> While MF *may* be a "notch" above average in the
> looks department, IMO, > gorgeous seems a bit of reach.
Well Cindy, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
> Why do the sexual practices of others interest us so
much? (Including > the hetrosexual relationships.) I can't imagine what
possible difference > it could make unless someone were considering the object
of interest as a > potential mate. (I for one never even plan to "lay-eyes"
on MF in real > life, much less become personally involved in his sex life!)
And at the > same time, as when I pass an auto accident, there is a morbid
desire to > look, and to know all the sordid details. Ah, the human
condition...
I don't know why they interest us so much. I passed on this story as
interesting to EE fans and to divert from less friendly, off-topic threads. My
opinion as to his looks was to directly provoke a friendly debate.
Since the thread has already had about 40 follow-ups, it was obviously of
interest to many.
What may also be of interest is that before this gay story broke, Michael
French was reported to be leaving EE and getting his own show elsewhere. Now it
has been confirmed that he has had his EE contract extended. Now was the story
of his leaving untrue in the first place, or has he changed his mind, or were
the makers of the new show after a heart-throb for the female viewers and now
find their star unsuitable? I guess I'll have to keep reading the Mirror to
find out.
Incidentally, according to the Mirror, Michelle 'Cindy' Collins has been
proposed to by her Italian lover of 3 months. They met at Mick Hucknall's club
in Miami and she was pregnant to him by the time she left Florida 2 weeks
later.
Mick Hucknall is not IMO gorgeous, and I have met him IRL, so why would meeting
Michael French, who is probably not as famous, be so unlikely?
--Angela Cowley
Robert Rumsby
>In article <4j6i90$m...@news.stlnet.com> wind...@mail.stlnet.com "Cindy" writes:
>
>The newspaper The Sunday Sport is more on par with your National Enquirer I
>think.
>
From seeing (not reading of course) the National Enquirer at the
check-out at the local supermarket. IMHO it most resembles the Sun
newspaper back home in UK. The only thing the Sun is good for is back
page for sports, page 3 for the girl with the BIG blue eyes, and wrapping
up your fish and chips.
>Incidentally, according to the Mirror, Michelle 'Cindy' Collins has been
>proposed to by her Italian lover of 3 months. They met at Mick Hucknall's club
>in Miami and she was pregnant to him by the time she left Florida 2 weeks
>later.
>Mick Hucknall is not IMO gorgeous, and I have met him IRL, so why would meeting
>Michael French, who is probably not as famous, be so unlikely?
And they say TV resembles life. In this case Michelle (Cindy) Collins
plays a part on EE that most resembles here actual real life
Mark Styles
>>Incidentally, according to the Mirror, Michelle 'Cindy' Collins has been
>>in Miami and she was pregnant to him by the time she left Florida 2 weeks
>>later.
>
>plays a part on EE that most resembles here actual real life
I saw Tiffany (actress who plays Tiffany that is :-)) on the cover
of OK! magazine yesterday, apparently she got engaged to her fella
in Paris, I didn't bother picking it up to read it though (well, its a
girlie gossip magazine, far too embarassing).
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Jim Hanner
>Do women really prefer Nigel then???
Cindy <wind...@mail.stlnet.com> wrote:
>Nigel, without a doubt, gets my vote.
Great news, eh lads? Meet you down the cake shop ;)
Jim
Cindy
<G> Jim, but really, looks aren't everything! (God knows if they were, *at least* 80%
of the worlds population would find themselves quite lonely!)
Nigel is certainly preferable to the likes of Wicksy, David, or either of the
Mitchells, not because he *looks* better, but because he is a decent bloke. Although,
IMO, Nigel is darn cute! ;->
Cindy
Robert Rumsby
>an...@epma.demon.co.uk (andy) wrote:
>>Do women really prefer Nigel then???
>
>Cindy <wind...@mail.stlnet.com> wrote:
>>Nigel, without a doubt, gets my vote.
>
>Great news, eh lads? Meet you down the cake shop ;)
>
>Jim
>
those matching shirts and ties.
Nigel looks like he got them at the tie-dye shop in Hawaii
andy
>those matching shirts and ties.
>Nigel looks like he got them at the tie-dye shop in Hawaii
Oi,
I really like Nigel's ties ;-)
It makes a change to have a "bright as brass" character!
Long live Nigel...
Andy