DOOL & AW: Who raped who and when?
Donna L. Bridges
uladi...@cc.memphis.edu writes:
> Somehow I have missed every rape that has ever occurred on Days and AW within
> the last 15 years. Can anyone update me on this subject? I really only
> started watching the two religiously three years ago, but I lightly kept up
> with the stories (enough to have a crush on Patch *swoon*).
2nd recap with contributions from DonnaB, Pip, Garlic, HoJo, Soap Fiend,
Ramona Madewell, ne...@midway.uchicago.edu (Jessica), Kelly Dickerson, and
Anna...@SYSLINK.MCS.COM. Hope I'm not leaving anyone out.
DAYS OF OUR LIVES
Kayla Brady was raped by Jack Deveraux. (M) (2)
Kimberly Brady was raped by her uncle, Eric Brady I. (I) (C)
Sami Brady was raped by Alan Harris. (C)
Jamie Caldwell was raped by her father, David Caldwell. (I) (C)
Marlena Evans was raped by Kellam Chandler.
Pat Hamilton (D.A.) was raped by ? .
Jennifer Horton was raped by Lawrence Alamain. (M) (3)
Laura Horton was raped by Bill Horton. (R) (4)
Adrienne Johnson was raped by her father, Duke Johnson. (I) (C)
Susan Martin was raped by Eric Peters. (R) (5)
Billie Reed was raped by her father, Curtis Reed. (I) (C)
Kate Roberts was raped by Curtis Reed. (M)
Tess Jannings Salecki was raped by ? Selecki. (M)
Julie Williams was raped by Larry Atwood.
Male Victim
Sami Brady raped Austin Reed.
ANOTHER WORLD
Lorna Devon was raped by Kyle ? .
Donna Love was raped by John Hudson. (R) (1)
Marley Hudson was raped by Jake McKinnon. (6)
(C) Child Victim
(I) Incest
(M) Marital
(R) Rewrite
NOTES
(1) - On "AW", John raped Donna when they were teenagers -- that was the story
as it originally unfolded to us. Of course, later on, for the purposes of
that positively GHASTLY Michael/Donna/John triangle in '87, and because John
is supposed to be such a likable guy, the writers amended it to a consensual
encounter. One of AW's less sterling moments, all around.
(2) - Kayla was married to Jack at the time, but the marriage was a marriage
in name only & they was no question about whether it was a rape or not. Jack
plea bargained to a lesser charge & did some community service.
(3) - Jennifer was married to Lawrence at the time, but the marriage was a
marriage in name only & she was impersonating Katarina L. (aka Dr. Carly
Manning) so there could be a valid question as to whether they were really
married, plus there was no question about whether it was a rape or not.
Lawrence did some easy jail time with business as usual for him.
(4) - Laura & Bill had been in love & engaged before he left for awhile only
to return & find her married to his big brother, Mickey. One night at the
hospital, in the doctor's on call room, a drunken Bill raped Laura (resulting
in the conception of Mike). Later, they tried to make it a sorta rape, a
seduction, etc.
(5) - Susan was raped by (her fiance) Greg's brother Eric in the park. Later
they made her recant & decide that she had dreamed the rape as some sort of
wish fulfillment or something.
(6) - Marley's rape was not marital rape because she & Jake were divorced when
it happened.
What kind & quantity of misogyny does this show about DAYS that we can name
all of these rapes so quickly & with so much variety that we have to have
categories!!
More info? Anyone?
~DonnaB
Donna L. Bridges
writes: > >
> >Then the question becomes is it always rape when one of the partners does
> >not actually know the others real name. Two strangers meet in a bar.....
> >Hookers and Johns......
>
> The issue wasn't a name, it was *consent*. Informed consent. Austin
> *consented* to have sex with Carrie. Sammi used a drug (actually, he
> was under the influence of two drugs, Sammi's and alchohol) to make
> Austin believe he was with someone he consented to have sex with.
> If two strangers meet in a bar, use false names, and both consent
> to have sex, it's not rape. *However* regardless of what names are
> Put me in the camp of those that believe that he was, due to the
> fact that he was unable to give informed consent to the act.
> The fact that he does not *recall* the act now seems to prove this
> point.
<massive editing>
I made no further reply to this because what would've been my reply magically
appeared here from Garlic. Good catch.
~DonnaB
June Petersen
Thanks, DonnaB. I just love it when that psychic thing happens :^)
TTFN,
Garlic
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Donna L. Bridges
writes:
> ><massive editing>
<even more editing>
> >I made no further reply to this because what would've been my reply magically
> >appeared here from Garlic. Good catch.
>
> Thanks, DonnaB. I just love it when that psychic thing happens :^)
Here's where I need to be able to express some do-do-doo-do strange, eerie
music.
~DonnaB
Donna L. Bridges
L. C. Cannell) writes:
> Brittany Peterson was raped by Peter Love while they were married. (I
> can't believe it took me this long to remember.)
Thanks, Sarah. Great! Now, I think there are even more AW rapes. A little bird
is tickling my e-mail ear naming Brittany & 2 others. Any ideas here?
~DonnaB
Donna L. Bridges
May) writes: > Donna, I wasn't watching that far back, but I had heard that
Susan and
> Eric had a "strangers in the night" encounter, which she later told Greg
> (and convinced herself) was rape.
I was watching then. I loved Denise Alexander almost as much as I love Susan
Seaforth. And, it was an assault & rape at night in the park. No question
about it. Eric was played very dark, odd, wanted to be a writer. He probably
was swarthy & ethnic but that wouldn't have mattered except his brother, Dr.
Greg Peters was played by this Ken-doll type of guy. They did a reversal &
rewrite & it was pretty lame. Seems that it got uncomfortable that she had
been raped by her fiance's brother. Gee, does that seem familiar?
> Pete Jannings pal was named Speed Selejko.
Tess's husband's only name was Speed? Oh, brother! Well, once we have a catchy
gang name, I guess we don't need our other old names, huh? Can I count on you
that that is the correct spelling of it, Selejko, I mean?
Thanks.
~DonnaB
Donna L. Bridges
> Somehow I have missed every rape that has ever occurred on Days and AW within
> the last 15 years. Can anyone update me on this subject? I really only
> started watching the two religiously three years ago, but I lightly kept up
> with the stories (enough to have a crush on Patch *swoon*).
3rd recap with contributions from DonnaB, Pip, Garlic, HoJo, Soap Fiend,
Ramona Madewell, bj...@freenet.carleton.ca (Eddie Drueding),
ca...@freenet.carleton.ca (Sarah L. C. Cannell),
jmal...@midway.uchicago.edu!!!(Jessica Malberg), Kelly Dickerson, and
Anna...@SYSLINK.MCS.COM. Hope I'm not leaving anyone out.
DAYS OF OUR LIVES
Kayla Brady was raped by Jack Deveraux. (M) (2)
Kimberly Brady was raped by her uncle, Eric Brady I. (I) (C)
Sami Brady was raped by Alan Harris. (C)
Jamie Caldwell was raped by her father, David Caldwell. (I) (C)
Marlena Evans was raped by Kellam Chandler.
Pat Hamilton (D.A.) was raped by ? .
Jennifer Horton was raped by Lawrence Alamain. (M) (3)
Laura Horton was raped by Bill Horton. (R) (4)
Adrienne Johnson was raped by her father, Duke Johnson. (I) (C)
Susan Martin was raped by Eric Peters. (R) (5)
Billie Reed was raped by her father, Curtis Reed. (I) (C)
Kate Roberts was raped by Curtis Reed. (M)
Tess Jannings Selejko was raped by Speed Selejko. (M)
Julie Williams was raped by Larry Atwood.
Male Victim
Sami Brady raped Austin Reed.
ANOTHER WORLD
Lorna Devon was raped by Kyle Barclay.
Donna Love was raped by John Hudson. (R) (1)
Marley Hudson was raped by Jake McKinnon. (6)
Clarice Ewing was raped by Jerry Grove. See below.
Brittany Peterson was raped by Peter Love. (M)
Sharlene Hudson was raped by Bailey (Tommy) Thompson. (C)
Blaine Ewing was raped by ?.
Was Lisa Grady raped by that creepy guy who was played by that actor who used
to be on "The Doctors"?
--Attempted Rape: Neal Cory attacked Victoria.
(C) Child Victim
(I) Incest
(M) Marital
(R) Rewrite
NOTES
(1) - On "AW", John raped Donna when they were teenagers -- that was the story
as it originally unfolded to us. Of course, later on, for the purposes of
that positively GHASTLY Michael/Donna/John triangle in '87, and because John
is supposed to be such a likable guy, the writers amended it to a consensual
encounter. One of AW's less sterling moments, all around.
Here we have a conflict. One ratser said the above, but another thinks that:
To my knowledge they never rewrote the rape into being consensual. Maybe
you're confusing the length of time between the show revealing the rape in a
flashback and the M/D/J triangle starting. There was only about a 2 week
difference. When John became a likeable guy it was well after this
triangle, and the rape just wasn't mentioned from then on.
Anyone want to wade in on it?
(2) - Kayla was married to Jack at the time, but the marriage was a marriage
in name only & they was no question about whether it was a rape or not. Jack
plea bargained to a lesser charge & did some community service.
(3) - Jennifer was married to Lawrence at the time, but the marriage was a
marriage in name only & she was impersonating Katarina L. (aka Dr. Carly
Manning) so there could be a valid question as to whether they were really
married, plus there was no question about whether it was a rape or not.
Lawrence did some easy jail time with business as usual for him.
(4) - Laura & Bill had been in love & engaged before he left for awhile only
to return & find her married to his big brother, Mickey. One night at the
hospital, in the doctor's on call room, a drunken Bill raped Laura (resulting
in the conception of Mike). Later, they tried to make it a sorta rape, a
seduction, etc.
(5) - Susan was raped by (her fiance) Greg's brother Eric in the park. Later
they made her recant & decide that she had dreamed the rape as some sort of
wish fulfillment or something.
(6) - Marley's rape was not marital rape because she & Jake were divorced when
it happened.
I asked my little e-mail bird, "Who raped Clarice?" And, was told, "Jerry
Grove, in some kind of schizophrenic fit."
Donna L. Bridges
Larry Atwood, a short-time character who may have had a physical resemblance
to Victor K. was a middle-aged guy with a moustache who was played by Fred
Bier in 1977-78. He played a hoodlum & club owner in competition with Doug &
Julie's club. The liquor license on Doug & Julie's club was revoked. Larry
Atwood began to lure their singers away. Their business was suffering. It
seems that it was Larry who had gotten their license revoked, but he
graciously offered to get it back for them if Julie would sleep with him.
(This in spite of the fact that we thought he really wanted to take over
Doug's Place.) Julie refused. So, he raped her. When he was found dead a few
days later, she was naturally accused of the murder, but Larry's henchman,
Arlo, confessed. Julie opened an antique shop with her cad of a big brother,
Steve.
~DonnaB, with thanks to HoJo
Sarah L. C. Cannell
(list of rapes snipped)
>
> Was Lisa Grady raped by that creepy guy who was played by that actor who used
> to be on "The Doctors"?
No. He abducted her, held her prisoner on an island in a hurricane or
similar weather event, and forced her to wear a wedding dress, but he did
not rape her. (Although wasn't part of her storyline the fact that she had
been raped by her mother's boyfriend, and this sent Dr Glaser over the edge?)
>
> (1) - On "AW", John raped Donna when they were teenagers -- that was the story
> as it originally unfolded to us. Of course, later on, for the purposes of
> that positively GHASTLY Michael/Donna/John triangle in '87, and because John
> is supposed to be such a likable guy, the writers amended it to a consensual
> encounter. One of AW's less sterling moments, all around.
>
> Here we have a conflict. One ratser said the above, but another thinks that:
>
> To my knowledge they never rewrote the rape into being consensual. Maybe
> you're confusing the length of time between the show revealing the rape in a
> flashback and the M/D/J triangle starting. There was only about a 2 week
> difference. When John became a likeable guy it was well after this
> triangle, and the rape just wasn't mentioned from then on.
>
> Anyone want to wade in on it?
>
Wading. Count me on the "GHASTLY" side. I will check the archives, but my
recollection is that the flashback (revealed in a session with Dr Glaser,
aka the Sin Stalker) portrayed the incident as rape (Donna said "no" but
John forced her down on the floor of the car), but Donna was subsequently
forced to admit that it hadn't been rape because she had *wanted* John.
Certainly John was never obliged to come to terms with the idea that he had
raped Donna.
sarah
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Cassandra
>
>Donna L. Bridges (dl...@delphi.com) writes:
>
>(list of rapes snipped)
>
>(Although wasn't part of her storyline the fact that she had
>been raped by her mother's boyfriend, and this sent Dr Glaser over the edge?)
Who was Lisa Grady's Mother? I know she is Felicia's Neice?
But I don't remember Felicia ever having a brother or sister?
Does anyone ever mention Lisa anymore? I don't remember
her reason for leaving town. Just that it was after being
so upset with Jamie about Vicky.
--Cass :-)
>
>sarah
>
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Cass...@biovx1.biology.ucla.edu
Jimmy Murphy at GA Southern University
On 27 Aug 1995, Cassandra wrote:
> Does anyone ever mention Lisa anymore? I don't remember
> her reason for leaving town. Just that it was after being
> so upset with Jamie about Vicky.
>
> --Cass :-)
>
Technically, she left town because of a job, but the situation with Jamie
and Victoria (and Steven) was the real reason she took the job. If I'm not
mistaken, she wanted to become a lawyer or a paralegal and took a job in
London. Why anyone wishing to learn the American judicial system would
go to work in Britain is a mystery to me. They have conveniently
forgotten her despite the fact that she is the only blood relative of
Felicia's that we have seen.
Oh, and I agree with the complaints about the wardrobe on AW recently,
but even in hospital scrubs Donna looked gorgeous...:)
Jimmy M.