Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

OT ~ Hospital again...

2 views
Skip to first unread message

Cory

unread,
Jan 28, 2008, 11:01:17 PM1/28/08
to
If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate). The ONLY
reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
do that successfully is in the hospital. I hope to be back posting
regularly in 2-3 weeks.

Play nice, gang! ;-P

--- Cory

Shirl

unread,
Jan 28, 2008, 11:26:44 PM1/28/08
to

That's the only way we play, Cory!

Sorry to hear you're in the hospital. You have your laptop there? Do
they have a wireless network for patients now?

Wishing you well. Take good care.

Shirl

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 28, 2008, 11:59:38 PM1/28/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
<3e85dfb1-103d-4a20...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Cory, I'm sorry. Heal better!!!

--
DonnaB shallotpeel

"The Keystone cops called & they want their bit back." - perp to RENO 911!'s
Trudy & Clemmy

FirstHit

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 8:11:52 AM1/29/08
to

Hope you get well soon!

FirstHit

phyllis_k

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 9:59:12 AM1/29/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e85dfb1-103d-4a20...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

I hope you get better soon. I think all of us cares .

Phyllis


Ryka

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 10:47:54 AM1/29/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e85dfb1-103d-4a20...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

We care about our cyber friends! I hope you'll be feeling better soon.

Cheri

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 12:24:26 PM1/29/08
to

Cory wrote in message
<3e85dfb1-103d-4a20...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>...


Be well soon Cory. I very much enjoy your posts. I'm curious, are you
diabetic?

Cheri


Patricia Wadley

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 2:47:42 PM1/29/08
to
DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
> <3e85dfb1-103d-4a20...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Cory
> <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
>>infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
>>had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
>>and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
>>to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate). The ONLY
>>reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
>>oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
>>do that successfully is in the hospital. I hope to be back posting
>>regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
>
> Cory, I'm sorry. Heal better!!!
>
Me, too. We will be thinking of you and keeping
you in our thoughts. Remember, we are here for you.

my2cents
p

Message has been deleted

Jude Cormier

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:38:45 PM1/29/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e85dfb1-103d-4a20...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

PLEASE take care of yourself!!!!!!!!!

*hugs*


chicagofan

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:41:22 PM1/29/08
to
queenie wrote:
> Get well soon! We have primaries to discuss. :-)


For some reason, I didn't get Cory's original message, so I'll just tag
on to say, I hope you get well soon and back home. As queenie says,
there's a big election today!
bj

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:51:42 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 28, 10:26 pm, Shirl <Xmnusha...@aol.communicate> wrote:

> Cory <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
> > infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
> > had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
> > and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
> > to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate).  The ONLY
> > reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
> > oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
> > do that successfully is in the hospital.  I hope to be back posting
> > regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
> > Play nice, gang! ;-P
>
> That's the only way we play, Cory!

HA!!! ;-P

> Sorry to hear you're in the hospital. You have your laptop there? Do
> they have a wireless network for patients now?

They have a public computer terminal in the waiting room on the floor
I'm on, so I'm accessing the 'net thataway. The only thing it has on
it is Internet Exploder, so it's not as if some computer illiterate
can f*ck things up on the computer.

> Wishing you well. Take good care.
>
> Shirl

Thank you, ma'am! ;-P

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:57:30 PM1/29/08
to
A VERY, VERY minor GL spoiler is contained in my response to Donna's
post, FYI...

On Jan 28, 10:59 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
wrote:


> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#

> <3e85dfb1-103d-4a20-8cef-a7140a0b8...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Cory
>
> <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com>  wrote:


> > If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
> > infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
> > had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
> > and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
> > to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate).  The ONLY
> > reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
> > oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
> > do that successfully is in the hospital.  I hope to be back posting
> > regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
> Cory, I'm sorry.

Eh... ain't no big thing. In retrospect, I saw this coming a mile way
after the initial surgery, so I wasn't surprised in the slightest when
the medicos told me I had to go to the ER to at least get it looked
at.

> Heal better!!!

I'm tryin'... seein' Tammy, even if only for a few seconds, on GL
today helped matters immensely*** (I have questions about this whole
Jon/Tammy/Lizzie thing which I will, at some point, ask in a different
thread, so be sure to look for it). ;-) Hee-hee-hee!!!!! Hmmm... I'm
being a naughty perv again... I must be feeling better. ;-P

***See?? I told ya it was a minor spoiler!***

> --
> DonnaB shallotpeel
>
> "The Keystone cops called & they want their bit back." - perp to RENO 911!'s
> Trudy & Clemmy

Likin' the sig., Donna!

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:58:00 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 29, 1:47 pm, Patricia Wadley <m...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
> > In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
> > <3e85dfb1-103d-4a20-8cef-a7140a0b8...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Cory
> > <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com>  wrote:

>
> >>If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
> >>infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
> >>had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
> >>and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
> >>to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate).  The ONLY
> >>reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
> >>oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
> >>do that successfully is in the hospital.  I hope to be back posting
> >>regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
> > Cory, I'm sorry. Heal better!!!
>
> Me, too.  We will be thinking of you and keeping
> you in our thoughts.  Remember, we are here for you.
>
> my2cents
> p

Thanks very, very much. You guys are great.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:58:23 PM1/29/08
to

Thank you! I'm tryin'!

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 5:59:06 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 29, 8:59 am, "phyllis_k" <phylli...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Cory" <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Thanks!!!

> I think all of us cares .
>
>  Phyllis

That goes both ways, gang, just so ya know.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 6:00:06 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 29, 9:47 am, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com> wrote:
> "Cory" <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Thanks! I feel great. I just need to be in a setting where the IV
drugs can be administered and monitored closely, as well as my foot.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 6:02:05 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 29, 11:24 am, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
> Cory wrote in message
>
> <3e85dfb1-103d-4a20-8cef-a7140a0b8...@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com>...

>
> >If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
> >infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
> >had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
> >and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
> >to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate).  The ONLY
> >reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
> >oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
> >do that successfully is in the hospital.  I hope to be back posting
> >regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
> Be well soon Cory. I very much enjoy your posts.

Why, thank you!

> I'm curious, are you diabetic?
>
> Cheri

Nope. I just have REALLY, REALLY awful circulation in my right foot.
Having said that, my blood sugar's been out of whack a couple of times
since I came in to the hospital, so I'm beginning to wonder now, too,
if I have the "beginnings", if you will, of diabetes (which would
REALLY, REALLY, REALLY suck).

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 6:05:58 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 29, 3:46 pm, queenie <quee...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:17 -0800 (PST), Cory
> Get well soon!  We have primaries to discuss. :-)

Oh, is that what those are called???

;-P

Thanks!

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 6:06:40 PM1/29/08
to

Thanks, bj. Trust me, come 8:00 PM tonight, I'll be watchin' CNN like
a hawk.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 6:07:15 PM1/29/08
to
On Jan 29, 4:38 pm, "Jude Cormier" <jh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Cory" <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Okay. I think I can do that.

;-)

Thanks, Jude.

--- Cory

Message has been deleted

Barbara Wolfe

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 7:12:32 PM1/29/08
to

You're a pretty damned amazing guy, you know.

Barbara

--


'It doesn't help me if every intelligent person in America votes
for me. I need a majority.' - Adlai E. Stevenson

Ryka

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 7:24:51 PM1/29/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:0e843ca1-4c52-4897...@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...


Me too - I live in FL!! MSNBC has a special show for the Florida primary.
Is it 8 pm yet?!

Bunny

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 9:09:54 PM1/29/08
to

I especially enjoy your "OT" posts and opinions, Cory!
I hope you feel better and get the heck out of there soon.

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 9:43:34 PM1/29/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:58:00 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
<c17aebc8-719b-4d55...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks very, very much. You guys are great.

Yeah, ... we know. [drags toe in dirt, grinning]

--
DonnaB shallotpeel

"A river is made drop by drop." - Afghan proverb

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 9:48:28 PM1/29/08
to
Cory, listen, while you're in there, mention the idea that you might be
pre-diabetic. Because if you are either pre-diabetic or diabetic, the sooner
you know & start trying to deal with it with what you eat, etc. the better!
If I recall you have GURD, or however that's spelled, right? But, you don't
have gastropareisis (however that's spelled <G>), do you?

Just caring, not prying. And, Cheri asked a good question.

In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:57:30 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
<72cdd4c2-e13c-488d...@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>, Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> A VERY, VERY minor GL spoiler is contained in my response to Donna's
> post, FYI...
>

> > Cory, I'm sorry.
>
> Eh... ain't no big thing. In retrospect, I saw this coming a mile way
> after the initial surgery, so I wasn't surprised in the slightest when
> the medicos told me I had to go to the ER to at least get it looked
> at.

Well, at least you have access to a computer on the floor & at least you
apparently can watch GL!! How much longer do they plan to keep you?

> > Heal better!!!
>
> I'm tryin'... seein' Tammy, even if only for a few seconds, on GL
> today helped matters immensely*** (I have questions about this whole
> Jon/Tammy/Lizzie thing which I will, at some point, ask in a different
> thread, so be sure to look for it). ;-) Hee-hee-hee!!!!! Hmmm... I'm
> being a naughty perv again... I must be feeling better. ;-P
>
> ***See?? I told ya it was a minor spoiler!***

Yeah, uh, what spoiler? LOL ... yeah, totally minor, that our girl the ghost
showed up again. Nice.

> > "The Keystone cops called & they want their bit back." - perp to RENO 911!'s
> > Trudy & Clemmy
>
> Likin' the sig., Donna!

It is a very very funny show!

--
DonnaB shallotpeel

"A rocky vineyard does not need a prayer, but a pick ax." - Navajo, Native
American proverb

Cheri

unread,
Jan 29, 2008, 10:07:28 PM1/29/08
to

DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ...

>Cory, listen, while you're in there, mention the idea that you might
be
>pre-diabetic. Because if you are either pre-diabetic or diabetic, the
sooner
>you know & start trying to deal with it with what you eat, etc. the
better!

Good suggestions Donna. :-)


Cheri


Jude Cormier

unread,
Jan 30, 2008, 1:09:00 AM1/30/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b215f901-4ba2-437f...@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

Okay. I think I can do that.

;-)

Thanks, Jude.

--- Cory

You're welcome...........after all you did last year for me.


Cory

unread,
Jan 30, 2008, 6:01:47 PM1/30/08
to
On Jan 29, 8:43 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:58:00 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
> <c17aebc8-719b-4d55-8e9d-8a833c705...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Cory
>
> <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com>  wrote:

> > Thanks very, very much.  You guys are great.
>
> Yeah, ... we know. [drags toe in dirt, grinning]

*giggle*

Cory

unread,
Jan 30, 2008, 6:03:12 PM1/30/08
to
On Jan 29, 6:12 pm, Barbara Wolfe <bevg...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Cory wrote:
> > On Jan 29, 7:11 am, FirstHit <First...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> Hope you get well soon!
>
> >> FirstHit
>
> > Thank you!  I'm tryin'!
>
>         You're a pretty damned amazing guy, you know.
>
> Barbara

Aw, shucks, ma'am... ain't no big thing.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 30, 2008, 6:07:02 PM1/30/08
to
On Jan 29, 5:29 pm, kar...@cupcaked.cccommmmm (Karen) wrote:
> Cory <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
> >infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
> >had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
> >and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
> >to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate).  The ONLY
> >reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
> >oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
> >do that successfully is in the hospital.  I hope to be back posting
> >regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
> >Play nice, gang! ;-P
>
> >--- Cory
>
> Hey, I'm so sorry to hear you're cooped up in the hospital.  Will it
> take two to three weeks to knock out that infection?

Something like that, yeah. We're still trying to figure out how much
longer I'm going to be on IV antibiotics. I'm a little confused right
now, because they have changed antibiotics 2-3 times in the last 4-5
days, and I'm not 100% sure why. Some of it DOES have to do with the
reaction I had to one antibiotic, I understand, but it was only a mild
reaction (I itched a LOT... particularly in my hands).

> Anyway, take care and get better soon.  We miss you!
>
> Karen

Thank you!

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 30, 2008, 6:07:58 PM1/30/08
to

*snicker* Moi, go off-topic???? Why, I NEVER...

;-P

> I hope you feel better and get the heck out of there soon.

Thank you very much!

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Jan 30, 2008, 10:54:02 PM1/30/08
to
On Jan 29, 6:24 pm, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com> wrote:
<snip...>

> MSNBC has a special show for the Florida primary.
> Is it 8 pm yet?!

Anybody surprised by the outcome yesterday?? I certainly wasn't. Was
I disappointed?? A little bit, yes (you have to remember that, as it
stands right now, I am supporting Barack Obama).

As an aside, I was surprised to read articles like this one...

Democrat Edwards exits presidential race
Clinton, Obama praise ex-rival, who refrains from endorsing one or
other

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22913001/ ...today. Had I known more
about John Edwards and his platform and themes and ideas and
convictions, I would have supported his bid in a heartbeat. IOW, if
he'd had more national exposure, I think he would have gotten farther
than he did.

Truth be told, I may actually end up voting for my first Republican,
ever, if McCain wins the Republican nomination for POTUS.

--- Cory

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 2:09:58 AM1/31/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:07:28 -0800 in Msg.#
<M6-dnfhY3spRdALa...@softcom.net>, "Cheri"
<gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

We can double team them!

--
DonnaB shallotpeel urging you to see BRIARS IN THE COTTON PATCH: THE STORY
OF KOINONIA FARM on your local PBS station.

"Darkness and night are mothers of thought." - Dutch Proverb

MsLiz

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 8:33:41 AM1/31/08
to
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:17 -0800 (PST), Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>If anyone cares, I'm currently in the hospital with a suspected
>infection in my foot after a recent amputation of a toe (the toe had
>had an abscess on it for months and months and just wasn't healing,
>and since I don't walk any more [only to transfer from my wheelchair
>to a couch, chair or bed], the docs elected to amputate). The ONLY
>reason I am in the hospital is because they decided to switch from
>oral antibiotics to IV antibiotics and the only place that they could
>do that successfully is in the hospital. I hope to be back posting
>regularly in 2-3 weeks.
>
>Play nice, gang! ;-P
>
>--- Cory

Hi Cory, I just popped in to check on you, and hope you will make a
speedy recovery. I've become obsessed with politics and have been
spending my online time at the Huffington Post. Next Tuesday I will
be voting for Obama. I hope you won't be missing a primary because of
this.

The nice thing about being away is that I have been spoiler free. I
did see your comment about Tammy's return, but I did not know that
Jonathan and Sarah would be revealed to Lizzie. Now that Rick and
Beth know, and Joshua and Cassie know, it is time for Beth to finally
deliver that baby to get into that paternity plot.


Love,
MsLiz

Phyllis Stone

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 8:36:42 AM1/31/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:34ad1fc0-a71e-4f96...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

.

Truth be told, I may actually end up voting for my first Republican,
ever, if McCain wins the Republican nomination for POTUS.

--- Cory


Cory, I did the opposite a few years ago. Voted for my first democrat ever.
I had been voting for many years and it was always republican. The earth
didn't quake and the sky didn't fall on me. My family did get a little
alarmed. Since that time I have mostly voted democrat. I guess you could say
I am a recovering republican.


chicagofan

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 2:10:18 PM1/31/08
to

OMG!!! Cory, tell me that's just the influence of your medication that
will soon wear off... please! ;)

What Republican would you vote for?
bj

chicagofan

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 2:15:26 PM1/31/08
to
MsLiz wrote:
>>
>> Play nice, gang! ;-P
>>
>> --- Cory
>
> Hi Cory, I just popped in to check on you, and hope you will make a
> speedy recovery. I've become obsessed with politics and have been
> spending my online time at the Huffington Post. Next Tuesday I will
> be voting for Obama.

Hey, neighbor, we'll be doing the same thing Tuesday! :)


> The nice thing about being away is that I have been spoiler free. I
> did see your comment about Tammy's return, but I did not know that
> Jonathan and Sarah would be revealed to Lizzie. Now that Rick and
> Beth know, and Joshua and Cassie know, it is time for Beth to finally
> deliver that baby to get into that paternity plot.

It definitely is time for that baby to get here, and blow up Rick's
world, as we know it will.

I know how addictive politics becomes in an election year, especially
one like this year, but we've missed you.
bj

Ryka

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 5:39:05 PM1/31/08
to

"Cory" <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:34ad1fc0-a71e-4f96...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

I have to agree, Cory. I don't feel right voting for Hillary or Obama; so my
choice is for McCain, who I hope will win the nomination. He seems to have
the experience the other two lack and I think he believes in what he can
offer the American people.

Message has been deleted

Kolbard

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 8:10:44 PM1/31/08
to
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:54:02 -0800 (PST), Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Truth be told, I may actually end up voting for my first Republican,
>ever, if McCain wins the Republican nomination for POTUS.
>
>--- Cory

McCain is batshit crazy. If it ends up between him and Hillary, I
won't vote.


Kolbard

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 8:14:29 PM1/31/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:15:26 -0500 in Msg.#
<60el2lF...@mid.individual.net>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> MsLiz wrote:
> > Hi Cory, I just popped in to check on you, and hope you will make a

> > speedy recovery. ...

Good to see you here!

> Hey, neighbor, we'll be doing the same thing Tuesday! :)

Tuesday I'll be voting for Hillary. <G>

> I know how addictive politics becomes in an election year, ...

I just don't seem to get addicted to it anymore. Yes, it's important to me.
I have hope this year. I hope that my hope isn't blown out of the water.

--
DonnaB shallotpeel urging you to see BRIARS IN THE COTTON PATCH: THE STORY
OF KOINONIA FARM on your local PBS station.

"He [Rudy Giuliani] was too New York, too Italian & he had too many wives."
- Dorothy Kaliades, Queens, on his try for Prez http://tinyurl.co.uk/gdtp

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 8:39:45 PM1/31/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:18:53 GMT in Msg.#
<47a672ed...@news.optonline.com>, kar...@cupcaked.cccommmmm (Karen)
wrote:

> As more and more time goes on and McCain looks more and more like he
> might be THE candidate on the GOP side, I'm more and more concerned.
> McCain seems to have what reporters are calling a "pugnacious nature."
> There's a certain meanness that is distressing about John McCain. He
> sometimes sounds just plain snotty to me.

I think he's been through this so many times & been shuffled to the back for
so long that he is bitter. I also think he can't be elected where at some
point in the past he could've been. His day has passed. But, hey, since I
know I want a Democrat in this year, after having Republicans in for 8, ...
that's okay with me.

Cory

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 9:02:59 PM1/31/08
to
On Jan 31, 4:39 pm, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com> wrote:
> "Cory" <my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> news:34ad1fc0-a71e-4f96...@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 6:24 pm, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com> wrote:
> > <snip...>
> >> MSNBC has a special show for the Florida primary.
> >> Is it 8 pm yet?!
>
> > Anybody surprised by the outcome yesterday??  I certainly wasn't.  Was
> > I disappointed??  A little bit, yes (you have to remember that, as it
> > stands right now, I am supporting Barack Obama).
>
> > As an aside, I was surprised to read articles like this one...
>
> > Democrat Edwards exits presidential race
> > Clinton, Obama praise ex-rival, who refrains from endorsing one or
> > other
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22913001/   ...today.  Had I known more
> > about John Edwards and his platform and themes and ideas and
> > convictions, I would have supported his bid in a heartbeat.  IOW, if
> > he'd had more national exposure, I think he would have gotten farther
> > than he did.
>
> > Truth be told, I may actually end up voting for my first Republican,
> > ever, if McCain wins the Republican nomination for POTUS.
>
> > --- Cory
>
> I have to agree, Cory. I don't feel right voting for Hillary

Hillary has never, ever struck me as a politician... ever. Having
said that, if she is elected POTUS, she may end up surprising me in
the end and leaving me with egg all over my face if she can
demonstrate that she can be an effective politician/POTUS.

> or Obama;

I REALLY, TRULY love Barack Obama. I think his lack of experience may
prove to be a bit of a problem, though, in the end.

Having said THAT, ISTR that California elected an actor, not once, but
twice, as its governor, and that one of those actor-governors was a
wildly popular POTUS. Thus, I think the argument can be made
effectively that one does NOT *need* a lot of political experience to
be elected POTUS.

> so my choice is for McCain, who I hope will win the nomination. He seems to
> have the experience the other two lack and I think he believes in what he can
> offer the American people.

One thing that McCain DOES have, for sure, that the Hillary and Barack
both lack - is military experience. In THIS day and age, even though
it's probably not THE most important pre-requisite for being POTUS, I
DO find that aspect of a potential POTUS to be more important than in
years past.

--- Cory

Message has been deleted

Cory

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 9:31:08 PM1/31/08
to
On Jan 31, 7:31 pm, queenie <quee...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:10:44 -0600, Kolbard
> Please don't do that--just hold your nose and pick a
> candidate--Hillary, I hope. :-)

I'm SO tired, though, if choosing between the lesser of two evils. If
only there were some GOOD candidates running for POTUS (PLEASE don't
ask me right now what defines a "good" candidate!).

--- Cory

Ryka

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 10:40:15 PM1/31/08
to

"Karen" <kar...@cupcaked.cccommmmm> wrote in message
news:47a672ed...@news.optonline.com...

> As more and more time goes on and McCain looks more and more like he
> might be THE candidate on the GOP side, I'm more and more concerned.
> McCain seems to have what reporters are calling a "pugnacious nature."
> There's a certain meanness that is distressing about John McCain. He
> sometimes sounds just plain snotty to me.
>

> Karen
>

And Hillary and Barak don't sound "snotty" when they talk to and about each
other?

Ryka

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 10:45:14 PM1/31/08
to

"queenie" <que...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:m305q3tca259bjisq...@4ax.com...


> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:02:59 -0800 (PST), Cory
> <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Having said THAT, ISTR that California elected an actor, not once, but
>>twice, as its governor, and that one of those actor-governors was a
>>wildly popular POTUS.
>

> Most people I talk to disliked RR. I think his divide and conquer
> strategy was the beginning of the wide division in this country--red
> vs blue. However, RR was very popular with his rich
> base--corporations and the media. Corporate America and the
> media=King makers. One thing the corporate-controlled news media does
> very well is to make poor whites think that they have more in common
> with the rich Republicans than they do with poor Democrats. That was
> RR's genius.
>
> What's that saying, "If you vote Republican, you're either rich or a
> fool."

The best years for me, in many ways, were the Reagan years!! And, yes, I'm
rich (it doesn't take money to live a rich full life) but not a fool! I
think McCain will make a good President. And most of the people I talk to
liked RR very much!

Cheri

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 10:51:09 PM1/31/08
to

Ryka wrote in message ...

>The best years for me, in many ways, were the Reagan years!! And,
yes, I'm
>rich (it doesn't take money to live a rich full life) but not a fool!
I
>think McCain will make a good President. And most of the people I
talk to
>liked RR very much!

I know I did, like RR I mean. I've always said he's the only
politician that I would have walked across the street to meet. Still
is.

Cheri


DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 11:27:52 PM1/31/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:51:09 -0800 in Msg.#
<idydnSF0HfmRCj_a...@softcom.net>, "Cheri"
<gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

Aiii yi yiiii. I'm one of the most polite people you'd ever want to know &
I'd have been hard pressed to have been polite to the man if I had ever met
him!!! From his playing of the race card at his first stop after he declared
his run, to his making it all up as he went along, to his appalling foreign
relations actions & their domestic repercussions, to the people who died of
AIDS while he refused to even utter the name of the disease, and lastly to
his own hypocrisy about so-called family values & charity & playing on hot
buttons that divided our nation in ways that are still there today, ...
nyah, I have nothing at all but contempt for the man. In another thread I've
discussed becoming cynical & getting past that cynicism. The Reagan years
were the worst of my cynicism. It's taken a very long time to get over them.

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Jan 31, 2008, 11:29:08 PM1/31/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:15 -0500 in Msg.#

<Mwwoj.60$994.1...@news.sisna.com>, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com> wrote:

> And Hillary and Barak don't sound "snotty" when they talk to and about each
> other?

Let's see, some have criticized them for being so 'polite' toward each other
in this primary race, so, I guess I'd have to say no.

Ryka

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 10:37:57 AM2/1/08
to

"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shall...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3v75q3921pn3aev6l...@4ax.com...


> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:40:15 -0500 in Msg.#
> <Mwwoj.60$994.1...@news.sisna.com>, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And Hillary and Barak don't sound "snotty" when they talk to and about
>> each
>> other?
>
> Let's see, some have criticized them for being so 'polite' toward each
> other
> in this primary race, so, I guess I'd have to say no.
>


Oh?????? And the "hissy fit" they threw at a debate was to demonstrate their
"politeness"??????

Cheri

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 12:07:16 PM2/1/08
to

DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ...

Yes, we're all entitled to our opinion. I don't share yours and you
obviously don't share mine. :-)

Cheri


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Cheri

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 1:21:36 PM2/1/08
to

Karen wrote in message <47a761fd...@news.optonline.com>...

>Not last night, no. Last night's Dem debate in California was
>actually enjoyable and informative from both their perspectives.
>
>Karen

Yes, I enjoyed it too.

Cheri


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

chicagofan

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 2:32:20 PM2/1/08
to
DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:15:26 -0500 in Msg.#
> <60el2lF...@mid.individual.net>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
>> MsLiz wrote:
>>> Hi Cory, I just popped in to check on you, and hope you will make
>>> a speedy recovery. ...
>
> Good to see you here!
>
>> Hey, neighbor, we'll be doing the same thing Tuesday! :)
>
> Tuesday I'll be voting for Hillary. <G>

I'll actually be happy with either... it's a tough choice. :) Hillary has
my head [safe] vote, but Barack has my heart [risky] vote.

I want to leave the dirty politics behind; and even though I know it's a
pipe dream, I think *less* money and time will be wasted demonizing
Obama if he's our choice.


>> I know how addictive politics becomes in an election year, ...
>
> I just don't seem to get addicted to it anymore. Yes, it's important
> to me. I have hope this year. I hope that my hope isn't blown out of
> the water.

Don't we all?!! :) I'm going to be a nervous wreck until this election is
over. There is so much at stake.
bj

Cheri

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 2:41:49 PM2/1/08
to

Karen wrote in message

>This is the first time in a LONG time I don't feel that way, Cory.
>I'll be voting for the Dem candidate and either present front runner
>is okay by me.
>
>I would very much prefer Hillary, but I'll take Obama.
>
>Karen

That's where I'm coming from Karen. I only voted for a democrat
president one time, and that was Jimmy Carter. I thought he was a
terrible president, but a nice man. Before and after, I have voted
republican or independent. I will definitely be voting democrat this
time. I can't say I'm entirely happy with either one, but I can say
I'm entirely unhappy with the the current admin.

Cheri


chicagofan

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 2:42:51 PM2/1/08
to
DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:

> Cheri wrote:
>> I know I did, like RR I mean. I've always said he's the only
>> politician that I would have walked across the street to meet.
>> Still is.
>
> Aiii yi yiiii. I'm one of the most polite people you'd ever want to
> know & I'd have been hard pressed to have been polite to the man if I
> had ever met him!!! From his playing of the race card at his first
> stop after he declared his run, to his making it all up as he went
> along, to his appalling foreign relations actions & their domestic
> repercussions, to the people who died of AIDS while he refused to
> even utter the name of the disease, and lastly to his own hypocrisy
> about so-called family values & charity & playing on hot buttons that
> divided our nation in ways that are still there today, ... nyah, I
> have nothing at all but contempt for the man. In another thread I've
> discussed becoming cynical & getting past that cynicism. The Reagan
> years were the worst of my cynicism. It's taken a very long time to
> get over them.

I'm still not over it.....

We are in a distinct minority Donna, but ITA with *everything* you said
about Ronald Reagan! :) As long as I live, I will never understand the
myth that surrounds this man. During those awful years, I could always
count on a co-worker to send me greeting cards about when he was
leaving office.

It is so hard to believe that someone came along to replace him,
as the worst president in my lifetime, but GWB did it. I couldn't
imagine at the time, anyone could be any worse at that job.
bj

Cheri

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 2:52:46 PM2/1/08
to

chicagofan wrote in message <60hb22F...@mid.individual.net>...

>DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
>> Cheri wrote:
>>> I know I did, like RR I mean. I've always said he's the only
>>> politician that I would have walked across the street to meet.
>>> Still is.
>>
>> Aiii yi yiiii. I'm one of the most polite people you'd ever want to
>> know & I'd have been hard pressed to have been polite to the man if
I
>> had ever met him!!! From his playing of the race card at his first
>> stop after he declared his run, to his making it all up as he went
>> along, to his appalling foreign relations actions & their domestic
>> repercussions, to the people who died of AIDS while he refused to
>> even utter the name of the disease, and lastly to his own hypocrisy
>> about so-called family values & charity & playing on hot buttons
that
>> divided our nation in ways that are still there today, ... nyah, I
>> have nothing at all but contempt for the man. In another thread
I've
>> discussed becoming cynical & getting past that cynicism. The Reagan
>> years were the worst of my cynicism. It's taken a very long time to
>> get over them.

>We are in a distinct minority Donna, but ITA with *everything* you


said
>about Ronald Reagan! :) As long as I live, I will never understand
the
>myth that surrounds this man. During those awful years, I could
always
>count on a co-worker to send me greeting cards about when he was
>leaving office.


You're right, you are in a distinct minority. :-)

Cheri


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

chicagofan

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 4:05:38 PM2/1/08
to
Karen wrote:
> chicagofan <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>
>> DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:
>>> ... nyah, I have nothing at all but contempt for the man. In
>>> another thread I've discussed becoming cynical & getting past
>>> that cynicism. The Reagan years were the worst of my cynicism.
>>> It's taken a very long time to get over them.
>>
>> We are in a distinct minority Donna, but ITA with *everything* you
>> said about Ronald Reagan! :) As long as I live, I will never
>> understand the myth that surrounds this man.
>>
>> It is so hard to believe that someone came along to replace him, as
>> the worst president in my lifetime, but GWB did it. I couldn't
>> imagine at the time, anyone could be any worse at that job. bj
>
> There is an unauthorized bio of GWB that describes his various jobs
> over the years and how he has failed at every single one of them. It
> seems everything he touches turns to sh*t. These are chronicled
> from the time he entered Yale to his early years before he entered
> polictics. I wish I could remember the autor's name and the exact
> title.
>
> Karen
>

"Fortunate Son"? I think it's the best of his bios, but I haven't read it.

I do know about his business failures, and daddy's friends bailing him
out throughout his life though. Really makes you wonder if most of the
people who voted for GWB, did it because of name recognition only.

The media certainly failed to do their job in informing the public about
him during his campaign, and again... during the escalation for that
illegal invasion of Iraq. :(
bj

Message has been deleted

Ryka

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 5:53:19 PM2/1/08
to

"queenie" <que...@nospam.com> wrote in message

news:mu17q3pro19aj3l7i...@4ax.com...

> I loved that they actually discussed issues. I wouldn't mind seeing a
> Clinton-Obama ticket.
>

I hope they do run together - then I know McCain (or another Republican)
will win for sure!! I can just picture Obama taking orders from Hillary
ROTFL!! Or vice versa!

Cory

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 5:55:20 PM2/1/08
to
On Feb 1, 3:01 pm, queenie <quee...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 10:21:36 -0800, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Karen wrote in message <47a761fd.5057...@news.optonline.com>...

>
> >>Not last night, no.  Last night's Dem debate in California was
> >>actually enjoyable and informative from both their perspectives.
>
> >>Karen
>
> >Yes, I enjoyed it too.
>
> I loved that they actually discussed issues.  I wouldn't mind seeing a
> Clinton-Obama ticket.

Or an Obama-Clinton ticket...

*smirk*

Seriously, I would have less of a problem with that than I would have
with either one of them on their own in the WH without the other one
as VP (does that make sense??).

--- cory

Cory

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 5:58:10 PM2/1/08
to
On Feb 1, 1:42 pm, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
<snip...>

> It is so hard to believe that someone came along to replace him,
> as the worst president in my lifetime, but GWB did it.  I couldn't
> imagine at the time, anyone could be any worse at that job.
> bj

Reading your entire post, I was just about to say that GWB's
incompetency and idiocy makes RR look like a saint, but you kindasorta
beat me to it, BJ... kindasorta.

--- Cory

Cheri

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 6:21:20 PM2/1/08
to

queenie wrote in message

>I heard on MSNBC's Tucker that the ratings for talk radio are
>dropping. It seems people are losing their enthusiasm for Rush and
>his ilk. I was amazed when Tucker admitted that this trend could
hurt
>him because "...let's face it, I pander to the audience", he said.

Why would that amaze you?

Cheri


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Cheri

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 7:13:44 PM2/1/08
to

queenie wrote in message
<23c7q31bkgm3artie...@4ax.com>...
>On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:21:20 -0800, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom>
>wrote:
>Because I thought he would claim some loftier goal--like providing
the
>valuable service to the public by keeping them informed. I mean, I
>knew he pandered but I never thought he'd admit it.


OK, I thought you were saying that you were amazed at the pandering. I
couldn't believe you thought that, so I had to ask. :-)

Cheri


DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 7:39:18 PM2/1/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Fri, 1 Feb 2008 09:07:16 -0800 in Msg.#
<QJidnYwxtf01zD7a...@softcom.net>, "Cheri"
<gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

> DonnaB shallotpeel wrote in message ...
>

> >Aiii yi yiiii. I'm one of the most polite people you'd ever want to
> know &
> >I'd have been hard pressed to have been polite to the man if I had
> ever met
> >him!!! From his playing of the race card at his first stop after he
> declared
> >his run, to his making it all up as he went along, to his appalling
> foreign
> >relations actions & their domestic repercussions, to the people who
> died of
> >AIDS while he refused to even utter the name of the disease, and
> lastly to
> >his own hypocrisy about so-called family values & charity & playing
> on hot
> >buttons that divided our nation in ways that are still there today,
> ...
> >nyah, I have nothing at all but contempt for the man. In another
> thread I've
> >discussed becoming cynical & getting past that cynicism. The Reagan
> years
> >were the worst of my cynicism. It's taken a very long time to get
> over them.
>
> Yes, we're all entitled to our opinion. I don't share yours and you
> obviously don't share mine. :-)

Totally agreed. See how divided we are?!!

[LOL!!!!]

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 7:44:43 PM2/1/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:52:46 -0800 in Msg.#
<crGdnaDK_ar85T7a...@softcom.net>, "Cheri"
<gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:

> chicagofan wrote in message <60hb22F...@mid.individual.net>...
>

> >We are in a distinct minority Donna, but ITA with *everything* you
> said
> >about Ronald Reagan! :) As long as I live, I will never understand
> the
> >myth that surrounds this man. During those awful years, I could
> always
> >count on a co-worker to send me greeting cards about when he was
> >leaving office.

I agree, of course, completely with your sentiments about Current Bush being
like RR in all of those wrong ways & even surpassing him. The 3 worst
Presidents in my lifetime, IMO: Nixon, Reagan, GW Bush. [Sigh.] I guess I
should amend that with 'so far'.

> You're right, you are in a distinct minority. :-)

I don't actually believe that we are. I think he (himself, the entity RR) is
something we are deeply divided about as a country. I think those of us who
see RR's years as a horror are just quieter about it now. I know I became so
immediately after his death. YMMV, of course.

Kolbard

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 7:45:46 PM2/1/08
to
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:31:08 -0800 (PST), Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Jan 31, 7:31 pm, queenie <quee...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:10:44 -0600, Kolbard
>>
>> <kolb...@alternate.reality> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:54:02 -0800 (PST), Cory
>> ><my_wheel_l...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>Truth be told, I may actually end up voting for my first Republican,
>> >>ever, if McCain wins the Republican nomination for POTUS.
>>
>> >>--- Cory
>>
>> >McCain is batshit crazy.  If it ends up between him and Hillary, I
>> >won't vote.
>>
>> Please don't do that--just hold your nose and pick a
>> candidate--Hillary, I hope. :-)
>
>I'm SO tired, though, if choosing between the lesser of two evils. If
>only there were some GOOD candidates running for POTUS (PLEASE don't
>ask me right now what defines a "good" candidate!).
>
>--- Cory

That's how it is, unfortunately. Hillary's voting record is pretty
bad: she supports the War on Drugs, staying in Iraq, continuing the
PATRIOT Act, etc. Even Obama voted to renew it, and voted to continue
funding for the war in Iraq. All that aside, Obama seems less likely
to abuse power than Clinton.

Kolbard

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 7:48:33 PM2/1/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:01:50 -0500 in Msg.#
<mu17q3pro19aj3l7i...@4ax.com>, queenie <que...@nospam.com>
wrote:

> ... I wouldn't mind seeing a Clinton-Obama ticket.

Me either! Clinton/Obama or Clinton/Edwards, either one!

I like that so far the path toward the primaries hasn't been so negative,
muddy, dirty, etc.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Cory

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 10:00:08 PM2/1/08
to
On Feb 1, 6:48 pm, DonnaB shallotpeel <shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:01:50 -0500 in Msg.#
> <mu17q3pro19aj3l7ia4tj50o6itcmrh...@4ax.com>, queenie <quee...@nospam.com>

> wrote:
>
> > ... I wouldn't mind seeing a Clinton-Obama ticket.
>
> Me either! Clinton/Obama or Clinton/Edwards, either one!

Did Edwards go on the record and say that he wouldn't be interested in
VP if he were asked by the Dem nominee??

If so, I truly hope he changes his mind. I think he would make an
interesting VP, and an interesting POTUS after that.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 9:58:41 PM2/1/08
to
On Feb 1, 6:45 pm, Kolbard <kolb...@alternate.reality> wrote:
<snip...>

> Hillary's voting record is pretty bad: she supports the War on Drugs, staying in
> Iraq, continuing the PATRIOT Act, etc.  Even Obama voted to renew it, and voted > to continue funding for the war in Iraq.

Actually, hasn't Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq from the
beginning, unlike Hillary, who sided with Dumbya when he first wanted
to invade Iraq?? I thought he did, but I could be wrong. One of my
main problems with Hillary, and supporting her bid for POTUS, is that
she sided with Dumbya and voted to go to Iraq in the beginning,
whereas Obama did not.

Also, just as food for thought here, it's a little harder, I believe,
to not support funding for a war that has been ongoing for weeks,
months, whatever, as that would be seen as "unpatriotic" or
"unAmerican" and unsupportive of our troops. Thus, I give anyone
(including those who initially voted to go to war in Iraq) some slack
if they initially opposed the war, but once we were knee-deep in it as
a country, voted to continue funding for it.

I FIRMLY believe that this military operation in Iraq, since we are so
far into it, should thoroughly be seen to the bitter end now. To cut
and run right now, given the utter unstability of that region as it is
today, would be a horrifying mistake that would haunt not just the
United States, but the world for YEARS to come.

> All that aside, Obama seems less likely to abuse power than Clinton.
>
> Kolbard

I know that nobody has outright accused me of this, and that this has
nothing to do with Kolbard's post, but let me just state for the
record that my opposition to Hillary Clinton as POTUS has NOTHING to
do with the fact that she's a woman.

I voted for Ferraro and her Presidential running mate (was it
Dukakis??) when she was on the ticket as a VP candidate. I have EVERY
confidence in the world that a woman could do just as well a job as
POTUS as a man could, given that it's the right woman in the Oval
Office. I'm not entirely convinced that that "right woman" is Hillary
Clinton.

Just my nickel's worth...

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 10:02:42 PM2/1/08
to
On Feb 1, 7:55 pm, kar...@cupcaked.cccommmmm (Karen) wrote:
> Bush was at full tilt of his lunacy in the WH when RR died, so many of
> us actually had warm fuzzy feelings towards the RR presidency by that
> time. By then, we really knew what a bad president was.
>
> Karen

Point taken, Karen. I hadn't thought of it like that. Even *I* said,
when Reagan passed away, that Reagan was a good *man* and that I had a
lot of respect for him as a *person*. Part of that WAS fueled by RR's
candor, WRT his Alzheimer's fight, but part of it was also fueled by
the fact that Bush 2 had been outed by the time Reagan passed away as
a total crackpot.

--- Cory

Cory

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 10:06:23 PM2/1/08
to
On Feb 1, 7:57 pm, kar...@cupcaked.cccommmmm (Karen) wrote:
> queenie <quee...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:27:52 -0500, DonnaB shallotpeel
> ><shallotp...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>Aiii yi yiiii. I'm one of the most polite people you'd ever want to know &
> >>I'd have been hard pressed to have been polite to the man if I had ever met
> >>him!!! From his playing of the race card at his first stop after he declared
> >>his run, to his making it all up as he went along, to his appalling foreign
> >>relations actions & their domestic repercussions, to the people who died of
> >>AIDS while he refused to even utter the name of the disease, and lastly to
> >>his own hypocrisy about so-called family values & charity & playing on hot
> >>buttons that divided our nation in ways that are still there today, ...
> >>nyah, I have nothing at all but contempt for the man.
>
> >I heard on MSNBC's Tucker that the ratings for talk radio are
> >dropping.  It seems people are losing their enthusiasm for Rush and
> >his ilk.  I was amazed when Tucker admitted that this trend could hurt
> >him because "...let's face it, I pander to the audience", he said.
>
> >Maybe the talk about "One country All together" that Obama and Hillary
> >speak of is starting to resonate in this country.  I was so happy when
> >the racist Mr. 911 Guiliani had to drop out of the race.
>
> Rudy lost me when he backed Bernie Kerik.

RG lost me there, as well, but the biggest reason I never supported
his bid for POTUS is because the only thing RG ever, ever, ever had to
"hang his hat on", so to speak, is the fact that he just happened to
be the mayor of NYC on 9/11.

YES, RG handled things well in the aftermath of 9/11. Yes, he is to
be admired and respected and applauded for his handling of 9/11 and
its aftermath, but if he were not mayor of NYC on 9/11, he would have
been just another mayor of NYC.

Have any other mayors of NYC run for POTUS and been elected to the
position before being a member of the US Congress, or VPOTUS, or a
member of Cabinet??

--- Cory

DonnaB shallotpeel

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 10:11:15 PM2/1/08
to
In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Fri, 1 Feb 2008 18:58:41 -0800 (PST) in Msg.#
<82eccb5c-7345-43a8...@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Cory
<my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Feb 1, 6:45 pm, Kolbard <kolb...@alternate.reality> wrote:
> <snip...>
>

> > All that aside, Obama seems less likely to abuse power than Clinton.
>

> I know that nobody has outright accused me of this, and that this has
> nothing to do with Kolbard's post, but let me just state for the
> record that my opposition to Hillary Clinton as POTUS has NOTHING to
> do with the fact that she's a woman.

I don't think that Hillary would be likely to abuse power because of what
she & Bill went through in Arkansas when they were defeated for a second
term in the Governorship. That pulled them from their liberal views to
centrist and it further cemented their way of doing 'political' business,
which is through consensus building.

But, realistically, given the Senate & HR the past 12+ years, I don't think
abuse of power and any Democratic candidate is a legitimate fear. It takes
too long to make changes & to get legislation passed!

--
DonnaB shallotpeel

"... anything that draws attention to the work that is being done in daytime
is laudable. There are veterans in this industry whose brilliance has
elevated the genre & newcomers who keep soaps young. Not enough people
outside this business understand that ..." - Lynn Leahey, Editor-in-Chief,
SOD

Barbara Wolfe

unread,
Feb 1, 2008, 11:42:32 PM2/1/08
to
DonnaB shallotpeel wrote:

>
> I like that so far the path toward the primaries hasn't been so negative,
> muddy, dirty, etc.

But it has veered that way enough to make me leery.

Barbara
--


'It doesn't help me if every intelligent person in America votes
for me. I need a majority.' - Adlai E. Stevenson

Message has been deleted

Ryka

unread,
Feb 2, 2008, 11:18:50 AM2/2/08
to

"DonnaB shallotpeel" <shall...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6ve7q3hrotto7a42m...@4ax.com...


Maybe a lot of it has to do with where you were (physically, mentally, and
emotionally) during those years. The RR years were fantastic for me - and a
lot of it had to do with the nation feeling positive and everything going
well for me in my life. :-)

Cheri

unread,
Feb 2, 2008, 11:56:02 AM2/2/08
to

Ryka wrote in message ...speaking of the RR years

>Maybe a lot of it has to do with where you were (physically,
mentally, and
>emotionally) during those years. The RR years were fantastic for me -
and a
>lot of it had to do with the nation feeling positive and everything
going
>well for me in my life. :-)

True Ryka, it was a good time in my life too. I was much younger and
feeling a lot more chipper. LOL

Cheri
>


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Kolbard

unread,
Feb 2, 2008, 6:34:51 PM2/2/08
to
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:54:31 GMT, kar...@cupcaked.cccommmmm (Karen)
wrote:

>Cory <my_whe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 1, 6:45 pm, Kolbard <kolb...@alternate.reality> wrote:
>><snip...>
>>> Hillary's voting record is pretty bad: she supports the War on Drugs, staying in
>>> Iraq, continuing the PATRIOT Act, etc.  Even Obama voted to renew it, and voted > to continue funding for the war in Iraq.
>>
>>Actually, hasn't Barack Obama opposed the war in Iraq from the
>>beginning, unlike Hillary, who sided with Dumbya when he first wanted
>>to invade Iraq?? I thought he did, but I could be wrong. One of my
>>main problems with Hillary, and supporting her bid for POTUS, is that
>>she sided with Dumbya and voted to go to Iraq in the beginning,
>>whereas Obama did not.
>

>IMO, Barack voted against the war without thinking through all of the
>small ramifications of the legislation that asked for the okay to go
>to invade Iraq.

Huh? Obama wasn't even in the Senate when the war was proposed.

>Hillary voted for that bill based on her
>understanding of a faulty and misguided bit of legislation; in other
>words, and as she has said repeatedly, she voted for a law that was
>shrouded in lies, and gave the POTUS the power to do something she was
>not in agreement with at that time and afterward. She has said over
>and over that she voted for that bill based on her understanding what
>was being presented to her (remember those WMDs?,) and that bill was
>based on lies to allow Bush and his admin to pretty much do whatever
>they wanted to do... and did.

I don't know *anyone* who supported going into Iraq in 2003. For any
reason. She's trying to cover her ass now. She's less genuine than a
used car salesman.

>The fact that I like but can't support BO right now as the next POTUS
>in no way means I'm a racist. I would never assume anyone would think
>that because I back Hillary instead of him. In fact, I think he
>*will* become a very viable POTUS someday, when he has more years and
>experience under his belt. Someday, just not now. This country is in
>too much turmoil to have a president learning as he goes along.

Hope you like a nanny state.


Kolbard

Ryka

unread,
Feb 2, 2008, 7:19:18 PM2/2/08
to

"queenie" <que...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:aor9q3lj2for1uc58...@4ax.com...


> On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 11:18:50 -0500, "Ryka" <Ryka@dancin'shoes.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Maybe a lot of it has to do with where you were (physically, mentally, and
>>emotionally) during those years. The RR years were fantastic for me - and
>>a
>>lot of it had to do with the nation feeling positive and everything going
>>well for me in my life. :-)
>

> Everything was going well for me and my family too during the RR
> years. And I am blessed that things are still going well for me and
> my family under this horrible administration.
>
> But just because things are going well for me personally, it doesn't
> mean RR, GW and GWB's administration a success.

It doesn't mean that RR or GWB are bad for those reasons either!

Cheri

unread,
Feb 2, 2008, 9:41:22 PM2/2/08
to

queenie wrote in message ...

>Everything was going well for me and my family too during the RR
>years. And I am blessed that things are still going well for me and
>my family under this horrible administration.
>
>But just because things are going well for me personally, it doesn't
>mean RR, GW and GWB's administration a success.

We'll have to disagree on RR, and that's all I'm going to say about
that, except...I loved him as governor of CA too. :-)

Cheri


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
It is loading more messages.
0 new messages