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Patricia Wadley

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Nov 12, 2004, 9:16:39 PM11/12/04
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"You know, I feel very dim - I only just now
realized, when I was typing and
saw "jackabbot" right above "Jabot" what the
derivation of the company name
is. It's John's name! Duh. All this time I was
wondering why a cosmetics
company was named after a scarf. Silly me!"

The above is a quotation from Laurel in the
"Victor's motives" thread.

The reason I cut and pasted was because this is a
new thread, but it deals with what Laurel wrote.

If I remember correctly, and this goes back,
probably before most of you were born, John Abbot
did NOT start Jabot. Julia Jabot started Jabot
cosmetics.

Remember Julia, Victor's first wife? The last
time we saw her she was in France and Ashley was
pregnant with Victor's child [the first time, not
the criminal conception one]. She stopped by to
talk to Julia about what she should do, and Julia
told her to "go for it" to tell Victor. Then when
Ash got back she overheard Nikki's sister tell
Victor that Nikki was dying. So, Ashley went out
and got an abortion, which led to the current
imbroglio.

Anyway, back to Jabot, John Abbott bought [I
think] Jabot Cosmetics from Julia. It was not a
big company then, it was a rather small "boutique"
company which made cosmetics for the rich.

John turned it into a big internationally known
company.

This was when Victor was first introduced. I
think I started watching this show back at the end
of the seventies. Around 1977, I think.

Anyway, I didn't get to see that plot, because it
happened just before I started watching. But
Victor was not a "nice" guy. You know, not like
he is now.

lol

But the point is, Jabot was a creature of Julia
Jabot. And I think the writers have done a soap
opera rewrite in referrals to the company being
created by John. The are correct in that John DID
create the Jabot that exists today, but he did not
create Jabot originally.

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Cheri

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Nov 12, 2004, 11:33:32 PM11/12/04
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Patricia Wadley wrote in message <41956E0E...@sysascend.com>...

You know, I've been watching the show since it started. I remember a
man, another Brad I think, who ended up being involved with a couple of
the Brooks girls, walking down a road toward Genoa City in the first
episode, but I am missing the part you're talking about in later years.
I don't remember Julia as Julia Jabot. Must be old age and failing
memory. LOL

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ravelation

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Nov 13, 2004, 11:52:16 AM11/13/04
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mj...@sysascend.com (Patricia Wadley)
wrote:

>If I remember correctly, and this goes
>back, probably before most of you were
>born, John Abbot did NOT start Jabot.
>Julia Jabot started Jabot cosmetics.

>Remember Julia, Victor's first wife? The
>last time we saw her she was in France
>and Ashley was pregnant with Victor's
>child [the first time, not the criminal >conception one].

I think the last time we saw Julia was at Victor and Nikki's last
wedding. She looked stunning, as always. Meg Bennett is one of those
natural beauties, much like Eva Longoria is.

As to your memories, they jar something in me too. If Julia's maiden
name was Jabot, then you've got to be right. Perhaps John Abbott was
created from the name Jabot?

Ravl

Patricia Wadley

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Nov 13, 2004, 6:11:51 PM11/13/04
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ravelation wrote:

Could be.

lol

Ashley also made a reference to Julia Jabot when she first came on the
show, back when she first graduated from college and started to work at
Jabot. You know, that has been over twenty years ago and I am lucky to
remember what I came into the room for. Anyway, I also remember Ashley
talking about how her father took a small cosmetic company and built it
into a world renown company.

;~)))))


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Fred/Libby Barclay

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Nov 13, 2004, 7:52:08 PM11/13/04
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I've been watching off and on since the first, and I don't remember
Julia's last name being Jabot. I just always assumed it was named for
John Abbot. I'm not good with soap names though.

Libby

Grace Noble

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Nov 13, 2004, 8:50:41 PM11/13/04
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"Fred/Libby Barclay" <fre...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:14114-419...@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...

I dug through a ton of websites to research this because I wanted to make
sure my memory served me correctly before I posted and it apparently is
better than I thought. When Victor and Julia first came to town they were
already married and he was hired by Phillip Chancellor to be CEO of
Chancellor Industries. Julia Newman (no maiden name was ever given) went to
work for Jabot, founded by John Abbott. His son, Jack, was the one who hired
her as the spokesmodel for the company and gave her the name "Julia Jabot"
the face of Jabot. It was never actually her surname.

Her current name is Julia Martin, as she is widowed by her last husband.


Patricia Wadley

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Nov 14, 2004, 9:35:13 AM11/14/04
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Grace Noble wrote:

Yes, I know. But Jack did NOT show up on the show until after Julia and Victor
split. I know what it says in the data base, but I also remember the very first
time Jack showed up on the show. He was still in college or had just
graduated. But he didn't come to work for his dad until after Julia and Victor
split.

As to Victor working for Philip Chancellor, I don't remember that at all. He
always owned Newman Enterprises.

The thing about these data bases is that often they are based on "revised"
histories. If you can find a history that was written current with the time,
then you are more likely to find the then thread.

I am not disputing you, I am sure that is exactly what the data bases say, but I
also know that there are a lot of things that have been changed by the writers
when they refer to what happened in the past.

To wit: Now we hear that Philip Chancellor started Chancellor Industries. But
I remember very well Katherine saying that she remembered the first time she saw
Philip Chancellor. He had just come to work for her father [who owned what is
now Chancellor Industries], she was, she said, standing in the dining room when
her father and Philip walked into the room. It was the first time she ever saw
him and it was love at first sight. They later married and when her father died
he took over the company full time.

Supporting evidence for that is the fact that when Philip Chancellor died he did
not leave the company to Jill or any part of it. The only thing he could "give"
her was the house and he had to get Katherine to sign it over to him to do that.

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ravelation

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Nov 14, 2004, 10:41:51 AM11/14/04
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grace...@verizon.net (Grace Noble)
"wrote:

>I dug through a ton of websites to
>research this because I wanted to make
>sure my memory served me correctly
>before I posted and it apparently is
>better than I thought.

Lucky you! Mine sucks.

>When Victor and Julia first came to town
>they were already married and he was
>hired by Phillip Chancellor to be CEO of
>Chancellor Industries. Julia Newman
>(no maiden name was ever given) went
>to work for Jabot, founded by John
>Abbott. His son, Jack, was the one who
>hired her as the spokesmodel for the
>company and gave her the name "Julia
>Jabot" the face of Jabot. It was never
>actually her surname.

Thanks for going to the trouble to dig this up.

Ravl

Darn

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Nov 15, 2004, 12:13:52 AM11/15/04
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>From: Patricia Wadley mj...@sysascend.com
>Date: 11/14/2004 9:35 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <41976CA5...@sysascend.com>

I haven't been watching that long but what you describe above is exactly as
I've heard it on the show. Chancellor Industries was Katherine's before
Phillip entered her life, I assume it had a different nam but she was always
the one with the money, she simply allowed her husband to take over and change
the name.


Darn

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Donna Matrix

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Nov 15, 2004, 1:24:09 AM11/15/04
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>
> >When Victor and Julia first came to town
> >they were already married and he was
> >hired by Phillip Chancellor to be CEO of
> >Chancellor Industries. Julia Newman
> >(no maiden name was ever given) went
> >to work for Jabot, founded by John
> >Abbott. His son, Jack, was the one who
> >hired her as the spokesmodel for the
> >company and gave her the name "Julia
> >Jabot" the face of Jabot. It was never
> >actually her surname.
>

That does not make sense to me. Phillip Chancellor died years before
Victor Newman or the Abbotts came into the story. Katherine must have
even gone through a few more husbands (e.g.: Derek Thurston, etc.)
before they arrived. I think Derek even took over CI for a while when
Katherine was confined to a wheelchair. He gave it all up to run away
with Jill, but then (fortunately for Derek) ran away without Jill
instead. Derek came back years later for a couple of days and did
Katherine's hair for Nikki and Victor's (first) wedding.

'Trix

Carol Frilegh

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Nov 15, 2004, 6:21:04 AM11/15/04
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In article <20041115001352...@mb-m18.aol.com>, Darn
<chaoz...@aol.comjunkbloc> wrote:

Actually a Jabot is a sort of ruffled bib that was popular in the 18th
century. So I guess the Abbotts have us by the throat :-)

> One entry found for jabot.
>
> Main Entry: ja·bot
> Pronunciation: zha-'bO, 'ja-"bO
> Function: noun
> Etymology: French
> 1 : a fall of lace or cloth attached to the front of a neckband and
> worn especially by men in the 18th century
> 2 : a pleated frill of cloth or lace attached down the center front of
> a woman's blouse or dress

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Nancy Rudins

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Nov 15, 2004, 9:56:21 AM11/15/04
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This thread got me to thinking about the possibility of
all the Genoa City entrepreneurs using combinations of
their names for their companies.

Chancellor Industries: "KaChanc"
Baldwin & Associates: "MiWin"
Esther's substance abuse counselling: "TherTine"
Newman Enterprises: "TorMan"
Malcom's photography studio: "AlcoTers"
Christine's law practice: "RisBlaRomIams"

Kind regards,
Nancy


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Patricia Wadley

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Nov 15, 2004, 1:59:33 PM11/15/04
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Carol Frilegh wrote:

>
> Actually a Jabot is a sort of ruffled bib that was popular in the 18th
> century. So I guess the Abbotts have us by the throat :-)

You are really good at making me laugh.

rotflmao

Thanks

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Cheri

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Nov 15, 2004, 2:18:13 PM11/15/04
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:)

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Carol Frilegh

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Nov 15, 2004, 3:27:51 PM11/15/04
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In article <4198FC17...@sysascend.com>, Patricia Wadley
<mj...@sysascend.com> wrote:

> Carol Frilegh wrote:
>
> >
> > Actually a Jabot is a sort of ruffled bib that was popular in the 18th
> > century. So I guess the Abbotts have us by the throat :-)
>
> You are really good at making me laugh.

I make myself laugh. That's why I wear a Jabot when coffeeing near the
keyboard :-)

Donna B

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Nov 15, 2004, 3:53:35 PM11/15/04
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In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:59:33 GMT in Msg.#

> Carol Frilegh wrote:

Now you've done it. Her head will explode.

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