GL: Megan McTavish FIRED!!!
Caleb & Michele Warner
KCChi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
>
Please tell me this isn't some sort of sick August Fools joke...PLEASE
LET IT BE TRUE! While I don't wish Ms. McTavish any ill will I think
what she has done to GL is a crime. Let's hope they get someone with a
strong belief in character development and realistic plot lines!
Michele
KCChi...@worldnet.att.net
Max Cannon
KCChi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Now, what about the OTHER one? ML?
jet...@pipeline.com
In article <4vtktm$e...@nis.dacom.co.kr>, Soo jung Kang writes:
>KCChi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
>>The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
>
>This is by far the best birthday present I've had today! Now I know
>why they waited so long to do so. Gee, you could've done it on X-mas.
>
>Now, let's just hope this time TPTB will hire someone competent, not
>like a year ago when they had mistaken McTavish for one.
>
>Any suggestions as to who you'd like to see as GL's new headwriter?
>
>-Soojung [who's wondering if it's safe to keep Laibson on board...]
> ha...@bora.dacom.co.kr
>
First, I hate to doubt what I read, specifically at RATSC. Where did you
read it? (please post!)
Second, will a new head writer boost the ratings? (this is a toughie
subjective question)
Third, Laibson's job appears to be safe. P&G's shuffling staff doesn't
appear to affect his job. (that's up for debate, though)
Fourth and finally, if a new head writer *will* boost the ratings and save
my favorite Springfield, which I do indeed love, let's pay big, big, big
bucks to bring Pat Falken Smith back to daytime TV. She'd put the sexual
tension back into Josh and Reva (goodbye, Annie) and erase any guilt any of
us might feel about Roger being sent to a looney bin. Smith would bring
back "Bauer Power," which might not be popular with everyone. By all
means...
Please feel free to disagree or flame away or add to this discussion, as I
hope TPTB are monitoring RATSC!
Cheers!
Olin Jenkins
Jenkins Typography, Columbia, SC
"Use small fonts... save disk space." ("Dilbert," 08/20/96)
veng...@concentric.net
On Mon, 26 Aug 1996 18:32:14 -0400, KCChi...@worldnet.att.net wrote
with grace and style:
>The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
>
Woo-hoo! *Dance* *Dance* *Dance*
GOOD-BYE! You will NOT be missed!
I've never read a .sig I didn't like. But in your case, I'll make an exception.
kathie wayne
Caleb & Michele Warner wrote:
> LET IT BE TRUE! While I don't wish Ms. McTavish any ill will I think
> what she has done to GL is a crime. Let's hope they get someone with a
> strong belief in character development and realistic plot lines!
>
> Michele
Although I'm happy and hoping that the next writer is much better,
I remember what mom use to say
Be careful for what you wish for cause it might come true.
ie..we had a fifth grade teacher from hell at my son's school that
we lobbied to get rid of and did. wouldn't you know it the
new teacher is 10 times worst!
Kathie
who is praying that the new writer is much better.
DanielRand
Well, this is fantastic news. I will try to be mature about it, however.
For new writers, I suggest....
Can't resist.
na na Na Na
Na Na NA NA
Hey Hey HEY
GOODBYE!!!!!
There. Feel better now. Please forgive me, but like Roger Thorpe (and
Michael Zaslow) there is a lot of frustration with GL to let go of. My
main suggestion, whoever they pick, is to go with what has worked for GL
best, in my opinion. And that is: a triad of head writers. With one person
writing all alone, some characters are bound to get left out (like now),
and there is no one else to suggest "Hey, that idea is not so good. Let's
do this instead. What do you think?". I think it works best when people
have others to sound off on, and if writers #1 and #3 like Reva and Writer
#2 does not, at least Reva will not get shafted because different writers
will promote different areas of the show. A few years ago GL hit what I
think was a creative high point because the trio of head writers each had
favorite stories that were given equal time and merged them together into
a seamless fabric. That was the Alan-Michael/Eleni, Holly/Dr. Daniel,
Harley/Mallet stories. Three heads are better than one, folks. Comments?
Daniel Ra...@aol.com
Pat C.
> >>The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
And Soojung wrote:
> >Now, let's just hope this time TPTB will hire someone competent, not
> >like a year ago when they had mistaken McTavish for one.
> >Any suggestions as to who you'd like to see as GL's new headwriter?
> >-Soojung [who's wondering if it's safe to keep Laibson on board...]
Soojung -
How about Nancy Curlee? She always did such a beautiful job of writing for
Roger and Holly - and after what they've been through in the past year
they deserve some special treatment (and I don't mean another ECT or
another reaming out by Laibson). Nancy Curlee always seemed to know how to
show a gradual, believable character growth, while still allowing the
characters to retain their individuality and idiosyncratic traits that
made them unique and interesting.
As for keeping Laibson - his recent comments in Soap Opera Weekly show
that he supports McTavish's blatant character destruction over the past
year, and would rather spend all his energy defending, rationalizing and
justifying his mistakes than trying to correct them. I think he has to go
too!
*********************************************
Pat C. "It is not necessary to understand things
patr...@epix.net in order to argue about them" - Beaumarchais
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jet...@pipeline.com
In article <4vv8nf$9...@nis.dacom.co.kr>, Soo jung Kang writes:
> In Soo jung Kang's response to...
>
>>...my (Olin's) reply:
>>First, I hate to doubt what I read, specifically at RATSC. Where did you
>>read it? (please post!)
>
> it seems the words got out first on the AOL board by a poster who,
> I understand, is actually an "inside" person.
>
Yep, :) I missed it here first. Not paying attention. Apologies. I've been
away from AOL for a long time and don't miss it (my name is peppered in
"alt.aol-sucks"... how's that for starting a friendly reply?)
>>Second, will a new head writer boost the ratings? (this is a toughie
>>subjective question)
>
> in that department. We hardly ever passed the 4.0 cap in the last few
> months. It's not like people didn't watch a well-written show (which
> seems to be the case for the City) but rather viewers leaving en masse
> because they couldn't stand to watch GL's DrOOLification.
>
Ouch, regarding GL's DrOOLification. Bringing down 5th Street was, IMHO,
too melodramatic. Daytime has enough violence, and there was no need to
bring 5th Street into this fray.
> Right now, I'm not asking for someone certified to boost the ratings.
> I just want someone who *knows* GL's rich history, *respects* its
> great characters and the wonderful actors portraying them, and will
> write the storylines bearing these factors in mind. McT did not.
>
I'm asking for someone to boost GL's ratings because P&G and CBS appear to
demand it. According to all the rumors I'm hearing (rumor, no official
source quotable), if GL doesn't shape up, it's gone after January 1997. I
*hate* to quote rumors, but where there's smoke, there's fire....
>>snipping Laibson's job qualifications....<<
>>Finally, if a new head writer *will* boost the ratings and save
>>bucks to bring Pat Falken Smith back to daytime TV. She'd put the sexual
>>tension back into Josh and Reva (goodbye, Annie) and erase any guilt any
of
>>us might feel about Roger being sent to a looney bin. Smith would bring
>>back "Bauer Power," which might not be popular with everyone.
>
> about PodMichelle. Please TPTB, bring Rachel Miner back!!!) They're the
> key to GL's survival. And didn't GL suffer huge ratings loss every time
> a Bauer was killed. Any wise headwriter with a knowledge of the show
> would definitely ask Peter Simon and Rachel Miner to come back, and put
> the Bauers on front.
>
Soojung, that's the sentiment I've wanted to hear from GL fans, myself
included! When I first signed on to RATSC several months ago, I expected to
see a few "Bauer Power" posts, even some reaction to a new Michelle Bauer
(SORAS or not). Almost nada. If I see any such posts such as these, and
I'll take it on myself to compile 'em on my hard drive and send 'em to CBS!
Not an idle promise! And I'll report back if I receive a modicum of a
response from TPTB!! (even a postcard not unlike ABC that sez "Thank you
for your response to "Guiding Light")
> Is Pat Falken Smith available?
>
Oh, how I hope so. But even with the goddess of soap operas, I hate to say,
at my own suggestion to bring her back into the fray of daytime, it ain't
what it used to be. GH brought back Gloria Monty, complete with Tony Geary
as a loser character, Bill Eckert, instead of Luke. That ploy went over
like a turd in the punch bowl. But I can dream, can't I??
Happy viewing!
Dwayne Chun
On Wed, 28 Aug 1996, Pat C. wrote:
> As for keeping Laibson - his recent comments in Soap Opera Weekly show
> that he supports McTavish's blatant character destruction over the past
> year, and would rather spend all his energy defending, rationalizing and
> justifying his mistakes than trying to correct them. I think he has to go
> too!
>
Well, of course he is going to support his boss publicly. If he
were to say that he disagreed with McTavish in public, he would be fired
instantly. Who knows what he is really thinking behind the scene. I'm
willing to give him a chance. He can't make the show much worse.
Dwayne
stef...@usa.pipeline.com
On Aug 28, 1996 08:41:03 in article <Re: GL: Megan McTavish FIRED!!!>,
'jet...@pipeline.com' wrote:
>I'm asking for someone to boost GL's ratings because P&G and >CBS appear
to demand it. According to all the rumors I'm hearing >(rumor, no official
source quotable), if GL doesn't shape up, it's >gone after January 1997. I
*hate* to quote rumors, but where >there's smoke, there's fire....
officially said if AW doesn't improve by Jan 97' it's also out of here.
Write to CBS/P&G
Save the LIGHT
Rob
a.k.a. C.C. Capwell in "Santa Barbara"
KCChi...@worldnet.att.net
Oops...somebody slipped. McTavish was not Laibson's boss...it is the
other way around...or it used to be :-)
jet...@pipeline.com
In article <3224B8...@worldnet.att.net>, KCChi...@worldnet.att.net
writes:
>Oops...somebody slipped. McTavish was not Laibson's boss...it is the
>other way around...or it used to be :-)
>
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Sounds like the sitcom "Who's the Boss"? No? Nevermind. I don't like
sitcoms, anyhoo.
There's a real urgency with GL's future, and with the dismissal of Megan
McTavish (who did nice work on AMC until she bungled at least one major
character over there), I'll state, as I did in a previous reply, that savvy
viewers at RATSC know all about the junk that's going on behind the screen.
The problems behind the scenes are quite apparent when we watch and don't
see much sense in the writing for the characters we used to enjoy each
weekday.
Unless Executive Producer Michael Laibson can work miracles overnight (as
he said in SPWeekly, it would take two months; that's not *good* enough
Mikey-Boy!) by hiring a superpower writer to energize our favorite
characters and their credibility (Bauer Power, Roger Thorpe, Holly and
Fletch, Josh and Reva, and *keep* Justin Deas somehow!, etc.), I demand his
head on a silver platter. I've only watched GL since I was angry with some
in-house squabbling that went on at NBC's "Santa Barbara," and that's
exactly what's killing GL right now. I'm *sick* of this squabbling and
actually, er, *long* for the days Pam Long used to write this show. Never
thought I'd hear myself say or post this sentiment!
This scenario is a sin and a shame for daytime television's longest-running
and, which *should* be, daytime television's most entertaining show to
enjoy. I'm willing to take the ball and run with it as long as we viewers
see something we can keep talking about besides the real story of "Who's
The Next Headwriter?" instead of a fun story such as "Will Josh and Reva
Reunite?"
End of sermon.
stef...@usa.pipeline.com
On Aug 29, 1996 06:54:08 in article <Re: GL: Megan McTavish FIRED!!!>,
'jet...@pipeline.com' wrote:
> I've only watched GL since I was angry with some in-house >squabbling
that went on at NBC's "Santa Barbara," and that's >exactly what's killing
GL right now. I'm *sick* of this squabbling >and actually, er, *long* for
the days Pam Long used to write this >show. Never thought I'd hear myself
say or post this sentiment!
for SB's demise, Pam Long was Head-Writer when the show was canceled. When
she came on SB, the bitch ignored the already established characters, that
we all loved, and brought new characters with major storylines. When any
show is in danger of cancelation, the producers need to re-establish
characters and bring back old favorites in order to possibly bring back old
viewers, if a near-canceled show brings on all new characters, and ignores
the established ones, like what Pam Long did to SB, the show gets
canceled!!!!
Please tell me what Pam Long did for GL. Do most fans love or hate her??
As for GL, it is very important to write letters, tell CBS/P&G you hate
Laibson, if thats the case, and tell them what you love/hate about the
show. Also mention which chararacters from the past you want to come back.
YOU can help make a difference, please write to CBS/P&G
Rob
a.k.a. C.C. Capwell in "Santa Barbara"
Write to CBS/P&G
mitzisuenix
stef...@usa.pipeline.com() wrote:
>On Aug 29, 1996 06:54:08 in article <Re: GL: Megan McTavish FIRED!!!>,
>'jet...@pipeline.com' wrote:
>
Major anti-pam long snippige
>
>Please tell me what Pam Long did for GL. Do most fans love or hate her??
>
she is married to the actor who plays flecher. I don't know how long
she was at GL but she was invovled with the Flecher/Ed/Maureen/Claire
Beruit story that conceived Michele. Flech and Claire swimming around
in a pool is one of the most memorable for me. (Yes, Jay Hammer
looked FINE in a speedo!)
Not every writer can get a hold of a story..Not every Actor can get
hold of a charactor(Tangie) but Pam Long wrote great for GL IMHO. I
was sorry to see SB go and can understand your pain.
>
>Rob
>a.k.a. C.C. Capwell in "Santa Barbara"
Mitzi
Aimee Pellet
On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, mitzisuenix wrote:
> >Please tell me what Pam Long did for GL. Do most fans love or hate her??
> >
> she is married to the actor who plays flecher. I don't know how long
Sorry, but Pam and Jay split up a while back.
DanielRand
Count me among those who feel that Pam Long did a majority of good things
for GL; granted, she made some mistakes, such as writing out many of the
Bauers, but she did a lot of good things, such as:
Introducing Josh and Trish Lewis' family members (Reva, Billy, Mindy,
H.B.)
Bringing aboard the fantastic Beverlee McKinsey in the role of Alexandra,
a role created specifically for her
My one-time favorite couple, Tony and Annabelle, and their wonderful
mystery stories like "The Fishing Trip" and "The Haunted Cottage"
Scores of long lasting characters, like Fletcher, Beth, Lillian, Dylan,
India, etc.
Bringing back Roger Thorpe from the dead and Holly and Chrissy from
Switzerland
The Josh/Reva stories, including the Sonni/Solita bit
and much more. It's too bad Long has a prime-time series to work on now;
she would be welcomed back with open arms by many GL fans!
Daniel Ra...@aol.com
Sara Bibel
Soo jung Kang wrote:
>
> KCChi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>
> >The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
>
> This is by far the best birthday present I've had today! Now I know
> why they waited so long to do so. Gee, you could've done it on X-mas.
>
> like a year ago when they had mistaken McTavish for one.
>
> Any suggestions as to who you'd like to see as GL's new headwriter?
>
> -Soojung [who's wondering if it's safe to keep Laibson on board...]
I propose: Claire Labine!
Reasons: Turned the ailing GH into a truly terrific soap without
damaging long-term characters.
Quit due to exhaustion, in part because she lives in NYC and GH tapes in
L.A., making her job harder as she had to fly across country for
meetings, deal with different time zones, stc. Not a problem with GL!
Also, NBC turned down her soap pilot for Spelling's "Sunset Beach."
Claire, we need you, we want you, come be the light's savior! (BTW, if
you haven't watched GH, Labine knows how to write characters and
dialogue-- and she seems to pay attention to history.) I also think
Felicia Behr, most recently of AMC and fired because the show's ratings
dropped during its homophobia stoiryline would be good. (BTW, she fired
Megan McTavish when she started screwing up AMC, so she knows what she's
doing.)
Sara "Though I wonder what would happen if they just turned the show
over to the internet" B.
Jean H. Lewis
Sara Bibel <sa...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sara, thanks for the interesting history of the writeres. I
sure wish you would send your idea to GL via email or letter.
Jean
________________________________________________________________________
Jean H. Lewis So much to say. And so much not to say!
ga...@soltec.net Some things are better left unsaid. But
X-Phile so many unsaid things can become a burden.
--Virginia Mae Axline--
Jonathan D. Roth
"Pat C." <patr...@peach.epix.net> wrote:
>> In article <4vtktm$e...@nis.dacom.co.kr>, Soo jung Kang writes:
>> >KCChi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>> >>The headline says it all...effective August 26, 1996
>And Soojung wrote:
>> >Now, let's just hope this time TPTB will hire someone competent, not
>> >like a year ago when they had mistaken McTavish for one.
>> >Any suggestions as to who you'd like to see as GL's new headwriter?
>> >-Soojung [who's wondering if it's safe to keep Laibson on board...]
>Soojung -
>How about Nancy Curlee? She always did such a beautiful job of writing for
>Roger and Holly - and after what they've been through in the past year
>they deserve some special treatment (and I don't mean another ECT or
>another reaming out by Laibson). Nancy Curlee always seemed to know how to
>show a gradual, believable character growth, while still allowing the
>characters to retain their individuality and idiosyncratic traits that
>made them unique and interesting.
>As for keeping Laibson - his recent comments in Soap Opera Weekly show
>that he supports McTavish's blatant character destruction over the past
>year, and would rather spend all his energy defending, rationalizing and
>justifying his mistakes than trying to correct them. I think he has to go
>too!
> *********************************************
>Pat C. "It is not necessary to understand things
>patr...@epix.net in order to argue about them" - Beaumarchais
> *********************************************
>
I think we should wait till the second part of the interview is out
before we make any judgements My suggestion is JFP should take
her place.
jonathan Ro...@hsonline.net
TAKE ME TO ANOTHER WORLD A WORLD OF LOVES AND GALLANT
MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE TRUE TO THEIR CORE AND ARE AS
BRAVE AS THE HUDSON IS WIDE
Lyle Masaki
In article <504d1p$c...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>,
stef...@usa.pipeline.com() wrote:
>
>Pam Long to me is the bitch that killed SB. While others were
responsible
>for SB's demise, Pam Long was Head-Writer when the show was canceled.
When
>she came on SB, the bitch ignored the already established characters,
that
>we all loved, and brought new characters with major storylines. When
any
>show is in danger of cancelation, the producers need to re-establish
>characters and bring back old favorites in order to possibly bring back
old
>viewers, if a near-canceled show brings on all new characters, and
ignores
>the established ones, like what Pam Long did to SB, the show gets
>canceled!!!!
>
her??
>
>Laibson, if thats the case, and tell them what you love/hate about the
>show. Also mention which chararacters from the past you want to come
back.
> YOU can help make a difference, please write to CBS/P&G
>
>
>a.k.a. C.C. Capwell in "Santa Barbara"
>
>
>Write to CBS/P&G
Well, I didn't see what Pam Long did to SB, but it was Jill Faren Phelps
who got me to stop watching it. There were two reasons why I gave up on
SB (BTW, the local CBS affiliate airs GL at noon, against DOOL or AW and
AMC, so I used to watch both SB and GL) The first thing to chase me away
was because JFP was insistant on writing out characters on a climatic
note (okay for major characters but it got really tiresome to see every
minor character to turn out to be a psycopath who puts heroine x in
danger, JFP did this once, recently, at AW and I stopped watching
immediately. I also got tired of what became the Cruz and Eden show. I
liked Cruz & Eden, but, after the rape storyline, TPTB gave them boring,
repetitive storylines and the sight of either of them made me reach for
the FF button. If I knew Pam Long took over writing SB, I probably would
have started watching again.
I don't remember specifically when Pam Long wrote for GL, but I associate
her name with a time when I used to enjoy watching GL. GL's okay now,
but I would like to see the way GL was when Pam Long was writing it.
L
Shawn Hill
Jonathan D. Roth (jdr...@hsonline.net) wrote:
: I think we should wait till the second part of the interview is out
: before we make any judgements My suggestion is JFP should take
: her place.
: jonathan Ro...@hsonline.net
*IF* they run part 2. last weeks' ish said it was only "scheduled", and
with this late-breaking news of McT's outster, who knows what kind of spin
control will be resorted to?
Psychic S.