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PlatinumBlonde
Jul 20, 2017, 7:21:05 PM7/20/17
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Did Mariah & Tessa have a gay moment, a day or 2 ago ?
Frosty
Jul 20, 2017, 8:05:42 PM7/20/17
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On 2017-07-20 6:21 PM, PlatinumBlonde wrote:
> Did Mariah & Tessa have a gay moment, a day or 2 ago ?
>
Considering all women are bisexual is say yes.
> Did Mariah & Tessa have a gay moment, a day or 2 ago ?
>
Lynn Kelly
Jul 20, 2017, 8:23:30 PM7/20/17
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On 7/20/17 @ 4:21:05 PM UTC-7, PlatinumBlonde wrote:
> Did Mariah & Tessa have a gay moment, a day or 2 ago ?
than Tessa with Noah or Mariah with Noah.
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Lynn K.
Zob
Jul 20, 2017, 9:47:30 PM7/20/17
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Cheri
Jul 20, 2017, 10:40:45 PM7/20/17
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"PlatinumBlonde" <platinum...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Cheri
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> Did Mariah & Tessa have a gay moment, a day or 2 ago ?
Yes, it has been obvious for awhile now.
Cheri
Diva
Jul 22, 2017, 9:58:01 AM7/22/17
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Diva
Zob
Jul 28, 2017, 6:22:35 PM7/28/17
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Mariah "get together" (we all know it's going to happen), that she
will be dumping the brother for his sister. That's an even better
twist.
Legend
Jul 29, 2017, 12:59:02 AM7/29/17
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Zob
Jul 29, 2017, 9:03:44 AM7/29/17
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Legend <livi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have to disagree with your premise that gay men have been accepted;
at least certainly not on Y&R! They have done two "gay" stories in
the history of the show (Well, 2-1/2 if you stretch it). And as a gay
man I'm not very thrilled that Y&R has not yet done a positive
storyline involving gay men:
#1) Jill's mother was selling her house and a horribly, sickeningly
stereotyped flaming effeminate gay couple went to look at it. Liz
Foster had a fit over this, and wouldn't sell them the house. And of
course we were supposed to laugh at the faggots
#2) Decades(?) later, another storyline casting gay relationships in a
bad light. Adam Newman, of course, pretended to be attracted to Rafe
and supposedly had sex with him for some nefarious purpose, using him
then tossing him aside (no making out on camera of course as every
single straight couple does). To make matters worse, the actor
playing Adam Newman at the time (Chris Engen) walked out and quit his
job when he found out the script called for him to kiss another man.
And after all that, after Michael Muhney took over the role of Adam,
they never did show him kissing Rafe!
#2-1/2) One time since the Rafe/Adam fiasco, they showed Rafe in a
having dinner in a restaurant with his "friend," understood to be his
gay partner.
That was it. The whole extent of Y&R's gay storylines.
There have been so many opportunities for them to do one and do it
well. Kevin, Fen, Kyle, Noah, any of them could have been gay and it
would have made a great story seeing them come out to their stodgy
parents. But those ships have long since sailed.
I'm still waiting for a normal, nice gay couple like ATWT's Luke and
Noah... a story that more accurately portrayed what real-life gay men
are like. Just living their lives with the same trials and loves and
goals and desires as everyone else. We're exactly like straight men
except for whom we love. Most of us are not flamboyant or nelly or
creepy. We're just people.
Y&R hasn't even come anywhere close to portraying that.
I'm not an activist by any means. I'm now 65 years old, born in 1951
and was in my formative/teen years in the 50's through the mid 60's. A
horrible time to be gay. There wasn't even a word for it other than
the occasional epithets I'd hear like "queer" or "faggot." I grew up
in the closet, and it stayed tightly locked my whole life. I learned
to deal with being alone through college while my friends went on
dates, had romances, did normal things that I couldn't do. The only
gay men I knew of were portrayed on TV shows in exactly the same way
that Liz Foster's potential home buyers were: effeminate, flamboyant,
overly dramatic and exaggerated, people to be laughed at and
ridiculed. They still are although to a lesser extent. It's too
late for me now at my age; I wish I had been born 50 years later
sometimes. So I stay in the closet except for in forums like this
where I can just be myself; just be like everyone else from behind my
keyboard. My ship has sailed.
Young and Restless has not broken the barrier at all. Life really
does imitate art, and I've been waiting for a healthy gay storyline on
Y&R for a long time. I know there are haters who would raise hell
over it and stop watching, just as they did ATWT. But we will never
have the same normal lives as everyone else until we are portrayed as
we are... just people.
Wow, I didn't mean to write that long "essay", LOL! It just sort of
came out, so to speak. :-D
p.s. I really am looking forward to a Mariah/Tessa storyline and hope
that Y&R does go there. It's at least a good start. I'm afraid you
may be right though, that they will not fully commit to the long
overdue story. We shall see.
wrote:
at least certainly not on Y&R! They have done two "gay" stories in
the history of the show (Well, 2-1/2 if you stretch it). And as a gay
man I'm not very thrilled that Y&R has not yet done a positive
storyline involving gay men:
#1) Jill's mother was selling her house and a horribly, sickeningly
stereotyped flaming effeminate gay couple went to look at it. Liz
Foster had a fit over this, and wouldn't sell them the house. And of
course we were supposed to laugh at the faggots
#2) Decades(?) later, another storyline casting gay relationships in a
bad light. Adam Newman, of course, pretended to be attracted to Rafe
and supposedly had sex with him for some nefarious purpose, using him
then tossing him aside (no making out on camera of course as every
single straight couple does). To make matters worse, the actor
playing Adam Newman at the time (Chris Engen) walked out and quit his
job when he found out the script called for him to kiss another man.
And after all that, after Michael Muhney took over the role of Adam,
they never did show him kissing Rafe!
#2-1/2) One time since the Rafe/Adam fiasco, they showed Rafe in a
having dinner in a restaurant with his "friend," understood to be his
gay partner.
That was it. The whole extent of Y&R's gay storylines.
There have been so many opportunities for them to do one and do it
well. Kevin, Fen, Kyle, Noah, any of them could have been gay and it
would have made a great story seeing them come out to their stodgy
parents. But those ships have long since sailed.
I'm still waiting for a normal, nice gay couple like ATWT's Luke and
Noah... a story that more accurately portrayed what real-life gay men
are like. Just living their lives with the same trials and loves and
goals and desires as everyone else. We're exactly like straight men
except for whom we love. Most of us are not flamboyant or nelly or
creepy. We're just people.
Y&R hasn't even come anywhere close to portraying that.
I'm not an activist by any means. I'm now 65 years old, born in 1951
and was in my formative/teen years in the 50's through the mid 60's. A
horrible time to be gay. There wasn't even a word for it other than
the occasional epithets I'd hear like "queer" or "faggot." I grew up
in the closet, and it stayed tightly locked my whole life. I learned
to deal with being alone through college while my friends went on
dates, had romances, did normal things that I couldn't do. The only
gay men I knew of were portrayed on TV shows in exactly the same way
that Liz Foster's potential home buyers were: effeminate, flamboyant,
overly dramatic and exaggerated, people to be laughed at and
ridiculed. They still are although to a lesser extent. It's too
late for me now at my age; I wish I had been born 50 years later
sometimes. So I stay in the closet except for in forums like this
where I can just be myself; just be like everyone else from behind my
keyboard. My ship has sailed.
Young and Restless has not broken the barrier at all. Life really
does imitate art, and I've been waiting for a healthy gay storyline on
Y&R for a long time. I know there are haters who would raise hell
over it and stop watching, just as they did ATWT. But we will never
have the same normal lives as everyone else until we are portrayed as
we are... just people.
Wow, I didn't mean to write that long "essay", LOL! It just sort of
came out, so to speak. :-D
p.s. I really am looking forward to a Mariah/Tessa storyline and hope
that Y&R does go there. It's at least a good start. I'm afraid you
may be right though, that they will not fully commit to the long
overdue story. We shall see.
Legend
Jul 29, 2017, 10:03:54 PM7/29/17
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Maybe that oversimplifies things, but it does show that not all gay characters are shown in a negative light. I still don't feel right about Tessa, and maybe, if she's given some good direction, or the actress is replaced, things will look better..
I know, off on a tangent. Hope things are going well for you now, Zob.
Zob
Jul 31, 2017, 3:41:33 AM7/31/17
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 19:03:52 -0700 (PDT), Legend <livi...@gmail.com>
Thanks... and you're right, I did totally forget about Phillip.
And OT a bit, you brought up something else that has bugged me about
the show for a long time: the way that Jill accepted Cane as part of
her family after he lied and deceived her and everyone else pretending
to be her "dead" son. The Jill character would never have done that.
She's a grudge-holder. But she still acts as though Cane were her son,
even sometimes to the point of favoring him over Billy. I don't get
it. And now it seems that he's apparently getting the same easy
treatment from Lily. I can never forget his abject cruelty in the way
he treated Amber. He was downright vicious and evil. I'm hoping that
this photographer who is blackmailing him spills the beans about
Cane's intentional sabotage of Victoria's company and Billy and he
gets kicked out by Lily and blackballed in GC. Let him start to be
portrayed as the villain that he really is.
And OT a bit, you brought up something else that has bugged me about
the show for a long time: the way that Jill accepted Cane as part of
her family after he lied and deceived her and everyone else pretending
to be her "dead" son. The Jill character would never have done that.
She's a grudge-holder. But she still acts as though Cane were her son,
even sometimes to the point of favoring him over Billy. I don't get
it. And now it seems that he's apparently getting the same easy
treatment from Lily. I can never forget his abject cruelty in the way
he treated Amber. He was downright vicious and evil. I'm hoping that
this photographer who is blackmailing him spills the beans about
Cane's intentional sabotage of Victoria's company and Billy and he
gets kicked out by Lily and blackballed in GC. Let him start to be
portrayed as the villain that he really is.
charlie...@gmail.com
Jul 17, 2018, 12:14:44 PM7/17/18
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If you would read in Leviticus 18:22 you'll see what God says about homosexual Acts. And one of the worst detestable read it. And if anyone agrees with this inverted lifestyle God will deal with them also I'm only passing the word along to let you know how God feels about this lifestyle no judging on my part just passing the message on to warn you about what God says about homosexual Acts of any kind.
charlie...@gmail.com
Jul 17, 2018, 12:16:26 PM7/17/18
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Leviticus 18:22 what God says about homosexual Acts. Read it
charlie...@gmail.com
Jul 17, 2018, 12:52:25 PM7/17/18
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Are distorted desires are a sign that we have turned away from God. Read Romans 1:19 and 1st Corinthians 6 verse 9 through 10. 1st Corinthians 6:11, 1st Timothy 1 verses 8 through 10, 1st Timothy 1 9 through 10 it talks about homosexual. Leviticus 18 chapter and chapter 20. Roman chapter 1 where is 18th and 32, verse 23 25 and verse 28.
charlie...@gmail.com
Jul 17, 2018, 1:05:05 PM7/17/18
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1st Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9 through 10 says avoiding sexual sins. Verse 9 says don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the kingdom of God? Don't fool yourself. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are Idol worshippers, adulterous, male prostitutes, homosexuals, verse 10 says fees, greedy people, drunks, abusers and swindlers none of these will have a share in the kingdom of God. Verse 11 there was a time when some of you were just like that, but now you're seeing that have been washed away and you have been set apart from God. You have been made right with God because of what God what the Lord Jesus Christ in the spirit argon have done for you. Verse 13 says you say food in is for the stomach and the stomach is for the food this is true, though someday God will do away with both of them. But our bodies were not made for sexual immortality they were made for the Lord and the Lord care about our bodies. And you can read the rest from there verse 14 through 20. Verse 18 says run away from sexual sins no other sin is clearly affected the body as this one does. For sexual immortality is a sin against your own body Rose 19 or don't you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, verse 20 for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body. Mariah and Tessa you better read this and you better follow through with it and stop pretending it don't make no difference if you're not a homosexual but if you pretend to be one that still a sin God does not look at that good at all God will judge all of us according to his words and how we use our bodies and what we use our bodies for no matter what acting or not acting it's still a sin. God is no joke when it comes to sin.
Zob
Jul 17, 2018, 1:50:35 PM7/17/18
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:14:43 -0700 (PDT), charlie...@gmail.com
wrote:
> If you would read in Leviticus 18:22 you'll see what God says about homosexual Acts. And one of the worst detestable read it. And if anyone agrees with this inverted lifestyle God will deal with them also I'm only passing the word along to let you know how God feels about this lifestyle no judging on my part just passing the message on to warn you about what God says about homosexual Acts of any kind.
Psssstttt...
Hey buddy. I'm a Christian and I'm gay. You're hanging your
personal prejudices on an Old Testament scripture. What did Jesus say
about homosexuality?
Do you think that my sins are worse than yours? On what New Testament
scripture do you base that? Paul said that, "All have sinned and
come short of the glory of God," and "There is none righteous, no, not
one."
And Jesus said, "I come not to condemn the world but to save it." And
in Romans it says that "Whosoever believes shall be saved." I believe.
As a Chritian I believe Iin the saving Grace of Christ, just like you.
Well, I assume like you, although you don't really seem to believe in
Christ's unconditional love and grace. Makes me wonder if you are
using religion as an excuse for your own biases and hatred.
wrote:
> If you would read in Leviticus 18:22 you'll see what God says about homosexual Acts. And one of the worst detestable read it. And if anyone agrees with this inverted lifestyle God will deal with them also I'm only passing the word along to let you know how God feels about this lifestyle no judging on my part just passing the message on to warn you about what God says about homosexual Acts of any kind.
Hey buddy. I'm a Christian and I'm gay. You're hanging your
personal prejudices on an Old Testament scripture. What did Jesus say
about homosexuality?
Do you think that my sins are worse than yours? On what New Testament
scripture do you base that? Paul said that, "All have sinned and
come short of the glory of God," and "There is none righteous, no, not
one."
And Jesus said, "I come not to condemn the world but to save it." And
in Romans it says that "Whosoever believes shall be saved." I believe.
As a Chritian I believe Iin the saving Grace of Christ, just like you.
Well, I assume like you, although you don't really seem to believe in
Christ's unconditional love and grace. Makes me wonder if you are
using religion as an excuse for your own biases and hatred.
Zob
Jul 17, 2018, 1:57:14 PM7/17/18
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 10:05:04 -0700 (PDT), charlie...@gmail.com
wrote:
>1st Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9 through 10 says avoiding sexual sins. Verse 9 says don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the kingdom of God?
Why do you cherry pick which Scriptures you want to apply to others
and ignore those that condemn YOU?
Matthew 7:1: Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what
judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in
thine own eye?
If I were you, I would be seriously concerned about the state of my
own soul. Because according to the words of Christ, every bit of
condemnation you try to lay on others, you bring on yourself. Be very
afraid. Repent. and humble yourself before Christ. Stop judging
others and get right with God before it's too late.
wrote:
>1st Corinthians chapter 6 verse 9 through 10 says avoiding sexual sins. Verse 9 says don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the kingdom of God?
and ignore those that condemn YOU?
Matthew 7:1: Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what
judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in
thine own eye?
If I were you, I would be seriously concerned about the state of my
own soul. Because according to the words of Christ, every bit of
condemnation you try to lay on others, you bring on yourself. Be very
afraid. Repent. and humble yourself before Christ. Stop judging
others and get right with God before it's too late.
Renate
Jul 18, 2018, 12:53:22 PM7/18/18
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Cheri
Jul 18, 2018, 1:14:21 PM7/18/18
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"Renate" <muun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Agree, and also, I wish these zealots would keep to their specific
newsgroups and their own narrow minded minions and stop trying to ruin every
other group with their crap, that goes for politics too. It's absolutely
ruined some groups, including the home repair group, and others.
Cheri
news:840ab0aa-fb9d-42e6...@googlegroups.com...
newsgroups and their own narrow minded minions and stop trying to ruin every
other group with their crap, that goes for politics too. It's absolutely
ruined some groups, including the home repair group, and others.
Cheri
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