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Peter J

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Aug 30, 2004, 9:45:00 PM8/30/04
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Carolyn Hinsey, who seems to be all over both Soap Opera Digest and Weekly now,
rarely listens to any opinions that don't come from her own mouth (or
keyboard). That seemed to continue when she said to SPW that all the
post-Andrea Evans Tina recasts were unpopular. Paul Rauch, who recast Tina
w/Karen Witter after Andrea had to leave New York, said that she (Karen) was
just fine. Carolyn's response was that there's no way Karen could have been
popular, because she had to "look up Karen Witter's name", and if she had been
popular, she would have remembered Karen's name.

Great logic there, huh?

I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?

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Donna B

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Aug 30, 2004, 9:54:42 PM8/30/04
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In rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc on 31 Aug 2004 01:45:00 GMT in Msg.#
<20040830214500...@mb-m01.aol.com>, peter...@aol.comnospam
(Peter J) wrote:

> Carolyn Hinsey, who seems to be all over both Soap Opera Digest ...

She still has her 'It's Only My Opinion' column in DIGEST but has been out
of all of the rest of it entirely for a good while now.

No disagreement about her egoistic perspective on opinion that's not hers.

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jasey brite

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Aug 30, 2004, 10:21:48 PM8/30/04
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Well, I loved Karen Witter.

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Peter J

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Aug 30, 2004, 10:21:40 PM8/30/04
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>Donna B shall...@optonline.net wrote:

>
>She still has her 'It's Only My Opinion' column in DIGEST but has been out
>of all of the rest of it entirely for a good while now.
>

I thought she still did interviews or wrote articles. Thank you for correcting
me. Did she want to leave? Did they give her SPW?

>
>No disagreement about her egoistic perspective on opinion that's not hers.
>

Phew...I thought you were going to be annoyed for some reason.

Donna B

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Aug 30, 2004, 10:37:11 PM8/30/04
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In rec.arts.tv.soaps.abc on 31 Aug 2004 02:21:40 GMT in Msg.#
<20040830222140...@mb-m01.aol.com>, peter...@aol.comnospam
(Peter J) wrote:

> I thought she still did interviews or wrote articles. Thank you for correcting
> me. Did she want to leave? Did they give her SPW?

Before the prior SPW editor [ ... ahem ... ] retired, Hinsley did rare
interviews for Digest - usually GH or Y&R, her column, was involved in
covers for both & regularly contributed to Weekly. Once the way was clear,
they gave her Weekly & she only has kept her column in Digest ever since
then. I think that was last fall, late-ish.

> >No disagreement about her egoistic perspective on opinion that's not hers.
>
> Phew...I thought you were going to be annoyed for some reason.

She's the annoying one. LOL. Frankly, we could time when they gave her
Weekly, it's when the cover began to get more & more tabloid-y with its
teaser lines, etc. & more & more pix of clothes inside.

SFJaySin

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Aug 30, 2004, 10:38:45 PM8/30/04
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>Great logic there, huh?
>
>I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
>circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?

I absolutely loved Andrea Evans' Tina. She is one of the main reasons I got
hooked on OLTL. But I will agree that Karen did a pretty good job as Tina.
If they were to bring Tina back I wouldn't be upset if Karen played her (my
preference would be Andrea but I think she is busy on another soap, right)

Jason

Witchy Way

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Aug 30, 2004, 11:10:26 PM8/30/04
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karen wasn't andrea but she did ok


Uniblab

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Aug 30, 2004, 11:33:08 PM8/30/04
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IMHO, Witter was a more attractive and appealing Tina than Andrea Evans.
After she took over the role, she got all sorts of positive press as the
Tina recast who finally worked out.


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Suzanne D.

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Aug 30, 2004, 11:55:33 PM8/30/04
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"Peter J" <peter...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message

> I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
> circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?

I thought she was wonderful. Much more believable, less soap-operaish that
Andrea Evans. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go look up the name
"Carolyn Hinsey."
--S.


Peter J

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Aug 31, 2004, 12:12:27 AM8/31/04
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> "Suzanne D." sdal...@yahoo.com wrote:

>
>I thought she was wonderful. Much more believable, less soap-operaish that
>Andrea Evans. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go look up the name
>"Carolyn Hinsey."

Carolyn Hinsey is an editor for Soap Opera Weekly, and does some work at Soap
Opera Digest. She became (in)famous about 6 years ago because she hinted that
she wanted to stick a fireplace poker up a woman's...well, I think you know
where I mean. When readers were outraged, she claimed that she meant her mouth.

Anthony D. Langford

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Aug 31, 2004, 12:14:27 AM8/31/04
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Peter J wrote:

> Carolyn Hinsey, who seems to be all over both Soap Opera Digest and Weekly now,
> rarely listens to any opinions that don't come from her own mouth (or
> keyboard). That seemed to continue when she said to SPW that all the
> post-Andrea Evans Tina recasts were unpopular. Paul Rauch, who recast Tina
> w/Karen Witter after Andrea had to leave New York, said that she (Karen) was
> just fine. Carolyn's response was that there's no way Karen could have been
> popular, because she had to "look up Karen Witter's name", and if she had been
> popular, she would have remembered Karen's name.
>
> Great logic there, huh?
>
> I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
> circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?
>

I liked KW. No, she wasn't Andrea Evans (who I loved, loved, loved),
but she did a good job.

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D.W. McKim

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Aug 31, 2004, 12:47:55 AM8/31/04
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Andrea Evans originated the role and brought to it a refreshing
uniqueness and for all intents and purposes will probably always hold
the mantle of The Definitive Tina.

But many fans (myself included) also felt that Karen Witter was a
successful recast and would definately consider her a *popular Tina*...i
too would love to see her back in a heartbeat were the show to bring
back Tina.

KW was much much better than any other Tina recasts before or after she
had taken the part. Witters replacement (whose name i DO need to look
up) was noticeable only for her physical resemblance to Witter.

Although i would also love to see Andrea Evans given first consideration
if the role of Tina were brought back, i would nonetheless go out on a
limb and defend Witter as the best Tina since not only did she fill some
shoes that were thought unfillable, but also left her own memorable
imprints on the character...finding ways to stay true to Evans spirit
while at the same time mixing in some of her own identity. She was
great as she started out as a maturing Tina who wanted to better herself
(which aided the transition) and a scream as she ultimately reverted
back to her old ways; i have as much (if not more) fond memories of her
schemes and exploits with Cain Rogan as i do the best of AEs moments.

Finally i would submit that because she did such a wonderful job at
Being Tina, that this may be why the name of the actress may not as
easily stick out. She wasnt *Karen Witter filling in for Tina*; she was
just *Tina*.

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Uyun

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Aug 31, 2004, 1:09:35 AM8/31/04
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I only saw about five minutes of Andrea Evans's Tina, but I definitely enjoyed
Karen Witter. From what I barely remember of AE as Tina, the clips I've seen
of her -- AND from her work on Passions -- my theory is that KW's version of
the character seemed a little more "real" than hers, and that she's definitely
a better actress.

I have a feeling that if Evans had stayed on the show, and lasted to now --
both her and Tina would probably get a lot of criticism here at RATSA.

Pidge

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Aug 31, 2004, 1:36:45 AM8/31/04
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On 31 Aug 2004 01:45:00 GMT, peter...@aol.comnospam (Peter J) wrote:

>Carolyn Hinsey, who seems to be all over both Soap Opera Digest and Weekly now,
>rarely listens to any opinions that don't come from her own mouth (or
>keyboard). That seemed to continue when she said to SPW that all the
>post-Andrea Evans Tina recasts were unpopular. Paul Rauch, who recast Tina
>w/Karen Witter after Andrea had to leave New York, said that she (Karen) was
>just fine. Carolyn's response was that there's no way Karen could have been
>popular, because she had to "look up Karen Witter's name", and if she had been
>popular, she would have remembered Karen's name.
>
>Great logic there, huh?

What's weird is I didn't even watch OLTL but I remember Karen Witter's name.
And I remember seeing pictures of her in the mags too.

>
>I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
>circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?
>
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>From: peter...@aol.comnospam (Peter J)
>Date: 8/30/04 10:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20040830222140...@mb-m01.aol.com>

>
>>Donna B shall...@optonline.net wrote:
>
>>
>>She still has her 'It's Only My Opinion' column in DIGEST but has been out
>>of all of the rest of it entirely for a good while now.
>>
>
>I thought she still did interviews or wrote articles. Thank you for
>correcting
>me. Did she want to leave? Did they give her SPW?
>

She still does interviews and articles for SOD and does that Dueling Divas
thing in SPW.

Darn

Suzanne D.

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Aug 31, 2004, 5:13:02 AM8/31/04
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"Peter J" <peter...@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20040831001227...@mb-m02.aol.com...

> > "Suzanne D." sdal...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >
> >I thought she was wonderful. Much more believable, less soap-operaish
that
> >Andrea Evans. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go look up the name
> >"Carolyn Hinsey."
>
> Carolyn Hinsey is an editor for Soap Opera Weekly, and does some work at
Soap
> Opera Digest. [snip]


I was just making a joke in reference to this passage:

"Carolyn's response was that there's no way Karen could have been
popular, because she had to "look up Karen Witter's name", and if she had
been
popular, she would have remembered Karen's name."

Guess I should have left that part in my original quote!
--S.


Suzanne D.

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Aug 31, 2004, 5:17:31 AM8/31/04
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"D.W. McKim" <dw...@webtv.net> wrote in message news:3451-

> Although i would also love to see Andrea Evans given first consideration
> if the role of Tina were brought back, i would nonetheless go out on a
> limb and defend Witter as the best Tina since not only did she fill some
> shoes that were thought unfillable, but also left her own memorable
> imprints on the character...finding ways to stay true to Evans spirit
> while at the same time mixing in some of her own identity.

I thought that about her as well. I recall, when she first showed up, how
she seemed to have adapted some of AE's mannerisms and language, so despite
the new look, she was still very consistent. After a while, KW's Tina went
from a scheming, flighty, self-absorbed girl to a sweet and hopeful woman
(something I don't think AE could ever accomplish), and it was easy to root
for her and settle in with her. She was my favorite Tina.
--S.


Donna B

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Aug 31, 2004, 6:34:07 AM8/31/04
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<20040831025256...@mb-m19.aol.com>, chaoz...@aol.comjunkbloc
(Darn) wrote:

> She still does interviews and articles for SOD and does that Dueling Divas
> thing in SPW.

About a month ago she renamed that column, which she has been doing since
she became the Editor at SPW. [Now it's One on Won.] She doesn't do
interviews or articles for Digest anymore unless there's some very rare
instance. In Digest she only retains her opinion column.

Stephanie Sloane is the Editor of Digest. Carolyn Hinsey is the Editor of
Weekly. They both report to Lynn Leahey.

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Seth J. Bookey

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Aug 31, 2004, 9:53:06 AM8/31/04
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In <20040830214500...@mb-m01.aol.com> peter...@aol.comnospam (Peter J) writes:

>Carolyn Hinsey, who seems to be all over both Soap Opera Digest and Weekly now,
>rarely listens to any opinions that don't come from her own mouth (or
>keyboard). That seemed to continue when she said to SPW that all the
>post-Andrea Evans Tina recasts were unpopular. Paul Rauch, who recast Tina
>w/Karen Witter after Andrea had to leave New York, said that she (Karen) was
>just fine. Carolyn's response was that there's no way Karen could have been
>popular, because she had to "look up Karen Witter's name", and if she had been
>popular, she would have remembered Karen's name.

>Great logic there, huh?

>I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
>circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?

I was happy with both Karen Witter and Krista Tesreau. My recollection is
that they brought their own brands of zany to the character without trying
to imitate Andrea Evans, which would be hard to do.

--Seth
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Seth J. Bookey

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Aug 31, 2004, 9:59:10 AM8/31/04
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>Jason

The reason I started watching OLTL in August 1988 was because I saw Tina
sweeping Patrick's ashed under the rug at the lighthouse where Ursula
(Jill LArson, Opan on AMC)) kept her prisoner. Athol Fugard played her
wheelchair-bound father. AE was so hilarious. She took ashes from the
fireplace and put them in the urn, saying, "She'll never know the
difference."

Aaron Pynn

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Sep 1, 2004, 2:10:58 AM9/1/04
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Yeah I really enjoyed Karen Witter as Tina. I thought most ppl did
actually...


Mary B

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Sep 2, 2004, 7:28:15 PM9/2/04
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In article <20040830214500...@mb-m01.aol.com>,
peter...@aol.comnospam (Peter J) wrote:


>
> I thought Karen was quite popular as Tina, and in very unfortunate
> circumstances (replacing a beloved actress). Am I wrong?
>

Not at all. Witter was probably one of the best recasts in soap
history, when you consider the shoes she had to fill. KW's
Tina was a good argument against pretending to kill off
popular characters for the sake of leaving a door open for
an actor to return.

Mary
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Roman Seano

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Jul 20, 2023, 3:41:42 PM7/20/23
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So much of OLTL's story centered on Tina. Everyone was disappointed that Andrea Evans (thank you - we love you!) left the role, and later shocked and saddened for the reasons why she had to exit. Moving past that...

Soap Opera Digest, the very magazine that Hinsey worked for, in its Best & Worst of 1990 special edition, named Witter "Best Recast" of that year - and wrote a glowing review of her work & her success in taking over what was thought to be an "un-recast-able" role.

Carolyn's embarrassingly ignorant, unnecessarily negative comments to Rauch say more about herself than they do anyone else.

bingo jones

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the Kristina-Parker and Kristina-Valerie storylines were the greatest in
GH history, but the show suddenly panicked and went back into a 1970s
closet. WHY?

and it sent Kristina's actress packing after at least a decade of playing
her. WHY? bring her back!

bring back #kristinaparker!!!!!!
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