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Seerialmom

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Aug 13, 2008, 5:26:36 PM8/13/08
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No idea how she spells her name but to save space I'll spell it like
my son's name. Ok, in speculation only...is Carmen an old BFF?
Cousin? Sister? Foster sister? Step-sister? They sure haven't given
us much to go on except to make it sound like Randy is now Puerto
Rican instead of possibly half black/white. Speculate on...I've got
nothing here.

SFJason

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Aug 13, 2008, 5:36:10 PM8/13/08
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well Randi did mention during one of her hospital visits after her
pimp beat her down that she had family in Puerto Rico, so they could
make her related to Carmen. She also could be an Puerto Rican with
African heritage (there are plenty of them) instead of black/white
biracial that many probably assumed she was.

I like the idea of some connection to Carmen, seeing as neither women
have any family connections right now. My guess is either cousins or
half sisters.

SFJason

Dwib

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Aug 13, 2008, 5:40:44 PM8/13/08
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I didn't sense any anger between the two. Perhaps it's as simple as
Carmen knows Randi is a hooker (ex?) and realizes the Fusion job will
be Randi's lifeline out of crime. Afterall, Carmen can always tweek
Eek for another job.

Dwib

Seerialmom

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Aug 13, 2008, 6:36:47 PM8/13/08
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They seemed to be closer though based on the conversations that took
place in the Fusion bar. Randy saying Carmen was too trusting and
Randy not trusting at all, when it comes to men anyway.

BTW...haven't seen today's show....but it sure looked like Carmen was
gearing up for something with Adam yesterday. Blackmail, perhaps?

Alane

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Aug 13, 2008, 8:01:52 PM8/13/08
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Seerialmom wrote:

I jumped to the conclusion they knew each other from The Big House.
But I have absolutely nothing to base that on. :)

Alane

Aisling Willow Grey

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Aug 13, 2008, 8:38:52 PM8/13/08
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>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:40:44 -0400, thus spake Dwib (in article
<a608a7c9-47fa-4fd4...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>):

> I didn't sense any anger between the two. <<

Ah, Dwib, I've gotta say it: spoken like a true guy! There is _definitely_
angry tension between those two, IMHO. My guess is that this is a late story
change, and so whatever is between the two of them won't make any sense to
us, the viewers, and is going to feel hastily cobbled together. I just don't
see Carmen and Randi running in the same crowd. Sadly, I think it'll be a
waste of Carmen. She's got potential, but Randi is just a big, gaping,
sucking hole of blah.

Aisling
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Taylor

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Aug 13, 2008, 11:58:34 PM8/13/08
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Weren't they whores together? I just naturally assumed Carmen was
turning tricks before going legit, but getting framed by her BF. But
those who said they knew e/o from time in prison is also possible.

not some random chick

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Aug 14, 2008, 12:30:49 AM8/14/08
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I read in another soap forum that originally the plan was for Carmen
to be Randi's mother. Guess that would have meant Carmen and Erica had
another thing in common (early motherhood). However, apparently it was
decided to make them sisters instead.

I sense a Ryan and Jonathan-type situation where the older sibling got
of Dodge as soon as they could and the younger one left behind
suffered more because of it. It would make a lot of sense if Randi
turns out to have sexually abused as a child.

Debbie "Carmen took most of the personality with her"

Seth J. Bookey

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Aug 14, 2008, 3:40:31 AM8/14/08
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>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:40:44 -0400, thus spake Dwib (in article
><a608a7c9-47fa-4fd4...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>):

>> I didn't sense any anger between the two. <<

>Ah, Dwib, I've gotta say it: spoken like a true guy! There is _definitely_
>angry tension between those two, IMHO. My guess is that this is a late story
>change, and so whatever is between the two of them won't make any sense to
>us, the viewers, and is going to feel hastily cobbled together. I just don't
>see Carmen and Randi running in the same crowd. Sadly, I think it'll be a
>waste of Carmen. She's got potential, but Randi is just a big, gaping,
>sucking hole of blah.

>Aisling

Well, they could easily be sisters. It seems that Carmen was a citizen of
Pine Valley, since she wound up in the same court as Erica. True, maybe
she only got arrested there. PV has a bad part of town. They could just be
old friends from the same neighborhood.

--Seth
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Seth J. Bookey
New York City
seth...@panix.com

Aisling Willow Grey

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Aug 14, 2008, 7:53:30 AM8/14/08
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>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:58:34 -0400, thus spake Taylor (in article
<3b9a4a0c-5d8e-4d22...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

I don't get the idea at all that Carmen was a criminal and/or a hooker before
the thing with her boyfriend. She seems like an ordinary 'good girl,' lower
socio-economic variety, to me. At least, that's how the actress has been
playing it.

sarac...@yahoo.com

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Aug 14, 2008, 8:09:38 AM8/14/08
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I'm going to be very disappointed if they turn out to be related.

I really like Carmen and the actress playing her. Being related to
Randi will drag her down. Even if they are just from the same
neighborhood, they should sound a bit more alike, IMO. I haven't
heard even a trace of an accent in Randi's voice.

Lame, lame, lame.

Sara

Seth J. Bookey

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Aug 14, 2008, 10:18:06 AM8/14/08
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>Lame, lame, lame.

>Sara

Not all parents and children sound alike, especially, if the child is not
raised by the parent. My cousin's wife has a perfect BBC English accent,
and her father had a very distinct Scottish accent. Two of my cousins who
grew up in England sound nothing alike. One sounds AMerican, the other
British. Heck, after a week in London, even *I* start to sound British.

SFJason

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Aug 14, 2008, 12:32:32 PM8/14/08
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On Aug 14, 4:53 am, Aisling Willow Grey <aisl...@fjordstone.com>
wrote:

> >> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:58:34 -0400, thus spake Taylor (in article
>
> <3b9a4a0c-5d8e-4d22-87bf-c00583c99...@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

>
> > On Aug 13, 5:26 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> No idea how she spells her name but to save space I'll spell it like
> >> my son's name. Ok, in speculation only...is Carmen an old BFF?
> >> Cousin? Sister? Foster sister? Step-sister? They sure haven't given
> >> us much to go on except to make it sound like Randy is now Puerto
> >> Rican instead of possibly half black/white. Speculate on...I've got
> >> nothing here.
>
> > Weren't they whores together? I just naturally assumed Carmen was
> > turning tricks before going legit, but getting framed by her BF. But
> > those who said they knew e/o from time in prison is also possible. <<
>
> I don't get the idea at all that Carmen was a criminal and/or a hooker before
> the thing with her boyfriend. She seems like an ordinary 'good girl,' lower
> socio-economic variety, to me. At least, that's how the actress has been
> playing it.
>
> Aisling

I agree with Aisling, there has been NO indication that Carmen was in
anyway a prostitute or "bad girl". In fact they played her as a
having been the victim of her criminal boyfriend robbing a bank and
her taking the fall because she was innocently sitting in the car
waiting for him. The only "bad girl" thing was her kidnapping of
Erica but that seemed to me to be more her desperation to pay back her
bf for screwing her over and leaving her to take the fall for
something she didn't do.

I kinda like the character and the actress seems fun. I hope she gets
a chance to develop.

SFJason

Seerialmom

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Aug 14, 2008, 2:46:25 PM8/14/08
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Based on yesterday's episode where she was trying to talk sense into
Colby, Carmen said she was working 2 jobs (cleaning and cashier) so I
also agree with Aisling that the BF was her downfall, aside from that
she's clean. Having "Been there, done that" myself in my latter
teens, I could see it. I thought for a moment Amanda would get it out
of Randi..of course that was just a teaser.

Prille

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Aug 14, 2008, 6:40:46 PM8/14/08
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Was Carmen in the same jail cell with Randi at one time? Maybe that is how
they know eachother.

It's like the key behind the photo in Fusion that Annie took out. When oh
when will we see where that leads.
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