OLTL: Bravo Erika Slezak and Clint Ritchie (Spoilers for 8/8)
Allynn Wilkinson
It was great! It was *all* great!
I haven't been watching very regularly lately but I'm glad I caught
Vicki and Clint today. I've always liked Clint Richie and I'm *so* glad
he's stayed (even when *everything* was going wrong for his character).
I'm not sure Clint and Vicki will ever be like GH's Alan and Monica but
it's nice to see the *passion*!
I love Erika Slezak and all the slightly 'comic' bits she's adding to
Vicki. I also think Clint Richie looks better than he has in ages (ever
since his terrible accident). I can't repeat often enough how glad I am
that he's stayed around. I love Mel and Dorian... but Clint and Vicki
have such a marvelous long-term relationship! I'm *so* glad Clint
finally admitted that he was angry about Sloane!!
Allynn
Mule indeed!!! Clint is a *stud* and always will be!!!
SandyWeeks
When I logged on to RATSA today, I planned on writing a post about how
Clint Ritchie seems to have lost the fire that once made him one of my
favorite characters. Ever since his divorce from Viki was finalized
three years ago, the character of Clint has been (at best) nostalgically
watchable and (at worst) boring to the point of tears, while Clint
Ritchie seemed to have lost all enthusiasm (who could blame him?) for
the role and walked through many of his lines. The "relationship"
(loose term) with Carlotta was abominable and his recent harping on
sex just made him seem like a dirty old man, IMO. I planned on making
a post to this effect ... until I saw the Friday 8/8 episode and all I
can say is WOW! For the first time in *years* I found myself loving
Clint - and I *never* thought I'd be able to say that again.
Erika and Clint were simply phenomenal IMO in the scenes where Viki
forced her ex-husband to release the anger he's held bottled up since
she dumped him for Sloan. Finally Clint was given decent, illuminating,
powerful dialogue and CR proved he still has it in him to deliver a
riveting performance. And Erika was wonderful (as always) ... I LOLed
when she hurled that tomato at Clint. (Although, was I the only one
who grimaced when she uttered the pretty awful line: "This is not about
food! This is about Sloan!"
And three cheers to the writers for making some casual history mentions
(Joey's asthma, Megan's death, etc) ... they've been doing it a lot
lately (suddenly, Bo seems to have remembered he was once married to
Cassie) and although most of the history mentions seem awkward, pointless
and forced, they were much more relevant today.
Thank God for a good solid week of programs. I hope they wrap up these
awful stories (Todd and the bomb, Max-Maggie and the warehouse) and
start focusing on the budding ones (Mel-Dorian-Dorothy, Todd-Tea-Blair,
Viki-Clint, RJ-Hank etc), because they show a whole lot more promise!
Sandy
William Brainard
I just loved it when Clint threw it up in Viki's face that he adopted Joe
Riley's boys. He married Mrs. Riley with a lot of baggage; what did she
to to thank him? Dump him for General Carpenter.
--
William Brainard
p020...@pb.seflin.org
William Brainard
I would have to say that Viki would have shattered into her many
different personality splits when Joe died in 1979 if it hadn't been for
"dear old Clint" there to pick up the pieces. Though at the time, I
thought Viki Riley actually couldn't stand Clint Buchanan and thought he
was a bad influence for Joe. Viki had nobody there when Sloan died the
way she had at the death of Joe Riley. Good old Clint, steadfast Clint
Buchanan who kept his feelings to himself all these years. At the death
of Sloan he was still too angry about Sloan and Viki. Can thank Dorian
for sending Clint up to the skilodge when Dorian said Viki broke her
leg. Viki and Sloan weren't just skiing at the lodge and her leg was
just fine when Clint walked in on them...
--
William Brainard
p020...@pb.seflin.org
William Brainard
I just loved it the way Clint threw it up in Viki's face that he adopted
Joe Riley's boys. TPTB seemed to have forgotten that! Clint married
Mrs. Viki Riley with an awful lot of baggage. He did it in the memory of
his good friend Joe Riley. What did Viki do to thank Clint for all his
support over the years from the time of Joe Riley's death, their ultimate
courtship, dealings with Tina, Dorian and "Niki Smith"? She "dumped"
him for General Carpenter. Clint, I think, saved Viki's very sanity
after the death of "her Joe". Viki tends to forget about that dreadful
period of her life. Clint was *selfless* when he adopted her children,
Joey and Kevin Riley.
--
William Brainard
p020...@pb.seflin.org
SandyWeeks
In article , p020...@pb.seflin.org says...
>
> Can thank Dorian
>for sending Clint up to the skilodge when Dorian said Viki broke her
>leg. Viki and Sloan weren't just skiing at the lodge and her leg was
>just fine when Clint walked in on them...
>
>--
>William Brainard
>p020...@pb.seflin.org
I remember this scene all too well ... it marked the return of Robin Strasser to
her role. Can remember her lounging on a couch in the ski lounge in that
white mink coat and sunglasses. The camera panned in, she whipped off
her glasses and everyone knew that "Dorian was BACK."
Sandy
Nancy at Dorsai
In article <5sidcu$4...@nntp.seflin.org>, p020...@pb.seflin.org (William Brainard) wrote:
>I just loved it the way Clint threw it up in Viki's face that he adopted
>Joe Riley's boys. TPTB seemed to have forgotten that! Clint married
>Mrs. Viki Riley with an awful lot of baggage. He did it in the memory of
>his good friend Joe Riley. What did Viki do to thank Clint for all his
>support over the years from the time of Joe Riley's death, their ultimate
>courtship, dealings with Tina, Dorian and "Niki Smith"? She "dumped"
>him for General Carpenter.
Well, it's true that he married her with much baggage, he didn't do it for Joe
Riley, he did it because he loved the lady.
And she didn't dump Clint for the General, although ultimately she did that.
If you remember back then, Clint was acting abominably. This was during the
whole AIDS/gay storyline. Everyone who was "against" was portrayed (rightly
so) as a bigot, and Clint was the biggest homophobic bigot of them all,
forbidding Jessica to be friends with Bobby (the gay kid, forget his last
name) and generally throwing his weight around. He gave Viki a terrible time,
and I think that Dorian for some reason had a hand in their breakup although I
don't remember why. TPTB wanted Viki and Clint to break up, and they did.
Then Viki went through the mega multiple personality storyline, and the
subsequent melding of all of them... the good, and the wicked. Viki is truly
a new person. All bets are off. Clint is dealing with a whole person now,
and nothing is as it was.
I'm glad that they're not showing Clint and Viki merely picking up where they
left off. When they finally come together, it shouldn't be as two comfortable
old lovers renewing their relationship, and I think that's what the Labines
are shooting for.
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Tina M. Wood
In a previous article, na...@no-spam.net (Nancy at Dorsai) says:
[about Viki and Clint]
>And she didn't dump Clint for the General, although ultimately she did that.
>If you remember back then, Clint was acting abominably. This was during the
>whole AIDS/gay storyline. Everyone who was "against" was portrayed (rightly
>so) as a bigot, and Clint was the biggest homophobic bigot of them all,
Actually, I'd say during most of the storyline, it was a tossup between
Sloan and Clint for the biggest bigot prize. Sloan, after all, could
not even accept that his own son was gay and died of AIDS. When Andrew
decided to make a Quilt panel for William, initially Sloan insisted that
their last name not be included.
>forbidding Jessica to be friends with Bobby (the gay kid, forget his last
>name)
Billy Douglas. It was Joey who was friends with him (pre-SORAS!)
> and generally throwing his weight around. He gave Viki a terrible time,
>and I think that Dorian for some reason had a hand in their breakup although I
>don't remember why. TPTB wanted Viki and Clint to break up, and they did.
The last sentence says it all really, but getting back to the story...my
memory of it is that a big part of their breakup was because Viki was
entrusted with the secret of Sloan's terminal illness. No one else in
the town knew (except possibly Andrew--not sure), and her keeping that
secret was a big part of what drove the wedge between Clint and her. She
was spending all this time with Sloan but could not explain to Clint that
it was largely because the guy was dying. Also, Viki felt called to
help Sloan get over his homophobia so that he could really grieve the
death of his son. She felt a connection with him since it had not been
long since she had lost Megan.
While Clint was indeed a bigot during much of the homophobia storyline,
he eventually came around and became supportive of Billy. His turnaround
was not as dramatic as Sloan's, though, so it's easy to forget.
Later Sloan pursued Viki even though she was married, so I lay much of
the blame for the breakup on him. I recall a party that Andrew and Cassie
were hosting where they tried to keep Sloan and Viki apart, but Sloan
insisted on being near her. Viki eventually made the decision to
pursue the relationship with Sloan. Dorian's part in the whole thing
was that she lured Clint up to the ski resort where Viki and Sloan
consummated their relationship, so he had to see them not quite in the
act, but close to it.
-T
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>Thank God for a good solid week of programs. I hope they wrap up these
>awful stories (Todd and the bomb, Max-Maggie and the warehouse) and
>start focusing on the budding ones (Mel-Dorian-Dorothy, Todd-Tea-Blair,
>Viki-Clint, RJ-Hank etc), because they show a whole lot more promise!
Hi Sandy,
I totally agree w/you...I hope that we get to see more *delicious* V/C
scenes and soon...alongn w/Todd/Tea/Blair & Nora/Bo!
Kathy :)
William Brainard
I kind of like the Todd/Tea/Blair triangle.
--
William Brainard
p020...@pb.seflin.org
Greg Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life Spira
>And she didn't dump Clint for the General, although ultimately she did that.
>If you remember back then, Clint was acting abominably. This was during the
>whole AIDS/gay storyline. Everyone who was "against" was portrayed (rightly
>so) as a bigot, and Clint was the biggest homophobic bigot of them all,
>forbidding Jessica to be friends with Bobby (the gay kid, forget his last
>name) and generally throwing his weight around. He gave Viki a terrible time,
>and I think that Dorian for some reason had a hand in their breakup although I
>don't remember why. TPTB wanted Viki and Clint to break up, and they did.
It was this, more than anything else, that drove me away from watching OLTL
regularly, and I haven't been back since. I could have accepted a well-done
breakup. But all that happened was that Clint started screaming about Joey's
gay friend, and Viki went off and had an affair with Sloan. There was never
anything real to break up Clint and Viki, so once they were broken up, it
ruined the show for me.
Now, if Sloan had been somewhat evil and more reminiscent of Victor, and Viki
felt drawn to him because of her uh, complex relationship with her father,
that might have made sense.
Greg
A Martin
SandyWeeks wrote:
>
> In article <5stlqk$k...@panix3.panix.com>, sp...@panix.com says...
> >
> >In <5sktp3$2lk...@ppp2.dorsai.org.dorsai.org> na...@no-spam.net (Nancy at
> >Dorsai) writes:
> >
> >>And she didn't dump Clint for the General, although ultimately she did that.
> >>If you remember back then, Clint was acting abominably. This was during the
> >>whole AIDS/gay storyline. Everyone who was "against" was portrayed (rightly
> >>so) as a bigot, and Clint was the biggest homophobic bigot of them all,
>
> least) I think I watched almost every (if not *every*) episode of the
> homophobia plot and never once came away from it believing that Clint was
> homophobic, or that the writers were portraying him that way. Sure, he *was*
> acting like a jerk, forbidding Joey to befriend Billy, but I saw his actions
> motivated more by fear that the social unrest (which was brewing very quickly)
> would lead to violence. Even Andrew had his lights knocked out by an angry
> parishioner. I never saw anything homophobic in Clint's (albeit misguided)
> attempt to keep Billy away from the Douglases.
<snip>
> well, because they were afraid of their kids getting into danger. Am I
> completely wrong here?
>
> Sandy
No, Sandy, you are not wrong but remember Clint always has to be the bad
guy so this is as good an excuse as any to say that Viki was right to
cheat on him.
Actually - and I said it recently - it bothered me that it was ok by
Viki for Joey to be in the midst of a potentially volitile situation
whereas always previously, she didn't want her children to be put in
danger. [Which seems a reasonable stance for a mother, IMHO.]
And if Iki had not already taken over, Viki always knew how to bring
Clint around. So there was no basis to claim a major fracture in the
marriage. Amanda
DAK
Greg Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life Spira wrote:
>
> In <5sktp3$2lk...@ppp2.dorsai.org.dorsai.org> na...@no-spam.net (Nancy at Dorsai) writes:
>
> >And she didn't dump Clint for the General, although ultimately she did that.
> >If you remember back then, Clint was acting abominably. This was during the
> >whole AIDS/gay storyline. Everyone who was "against" was portrayed (rightly
> >so) as a bigot, and Clint was the biggest homophobic bigot of them all,
> >name) and generally throwing his weight around. He gave Viki a terrible time,
> >and I think that Dorian for some reason had a hand in their breakup although I
> >don't remember why. TPTB wanted Viki and Clint to break up, and they did.
>
> It was this, more than anything else, that drove me away from watching OLTL
> regularly, and I haven't been back since. I could have accepted a well-done
> breakup. But all that happened was that Clint started screaming about Joey's
> gay friend, and Viki went off and had an affair with Sloan. There was never
> anything real to break up Clint and Viki, so once they were broken up, it
> ruined the show for me.
Since it also ruined the show for me, I will only add that Viki was just
as much the victim of the bad writing as Clint. Viki always could
control Clint. Proof on the first show which, as I undersatnd it, by the
Labines. Clint was going off the dead end over Jessica possibly becoming
sexually active, and Viki teased him into facing reality.
At the time Clint was going on about Joey, another aspect never made
sense. Viki never wanted her sons to be involved in violence, and
Clint's anger had more to do with danger than homophobia - although I
know some people don't want to see it that way - Viki is saying it's
okay. Sheesh. Even if she didn't mind the potential danger, she had the
power to make Clint understand. But she could not be bothered. Much
better to meddle in another family's business.
SandyWeeks
>Dorsai) writes:
>
>>And she didn't dump Clint for the General, although ultimately she did that.
>>If you remember back then, Clint was acting abominably. This was during the
>>whole AIDS/gay storyline. Everyone who was "against" was portrayed (rightly
>>so) as a bigot, and Clint was the biggest homophobic bigot of them all,
OK, something has been bothering me for YEARS (ever since I got on RATSA, at
least) I think I watched almost every (if not *every*) episode of the
homophobia plot and never once came away from it believing that Clint was
homophobic, or that the writers were portraying him that way. Sure, he *was*
acting like a jerk, forbidding Joey to befriend Billy, but I saw his actions
motivated more by fear that the social unrest (which was brewing very quickly)
would lead to violence. Even Andrew had his lights knocked out by an angry
parishioner. I never saw anything homophobic in Clint's (albeit misguided)
attempt to keep Billy away from the Douglases. Maybe I was wrong and missed
something, but at the time, Clint's anger reminded me of his and Viki's anger
when Kevin was dating Stephanie. They forbid those two to see each other as
Michelle McFee
Why? It doesn't seem to be much of a triangle... Tea seems to want
Todd and Blair to reconcile...
But I do think Tea is a good match for Tod in personality and spunk...
I wish Todd would learn to control his flaring nostrils, however, they
drive me nuts... but I do find him attractive in a strange way.
Buddy
Yes, Bravo!
I really enjoyed their scenes. I find it very enjoyable to see Miss Vicky
(who I already liked for years) tap into the depths of her personality
that has new levels thanks to the sum of her alters.
Yay! Give us more!
I loved the tomato tossing. I was so hoping that the last one would of got
clint splat in the back of his head. Maybe next time.
*wave*
Danielle from NJ