Carl Orff's _Carmina Burana_, which can be heard in a lot of movie
preview trailers as well as Apotheosis' "O Fortuna" techno hit.
jess
>Carl Orff's _Carmina Burana_, which can be heard in a lot of movie
>preview trailers as well as Apotheosis' "O Fortuna" techno hit.
In fact, I think it's safe to say that Carmina Burana is now the most
overused piece of classical music in show business, supplanting the
previous champion, Pachelbel's Canon.
Sampo
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I think they share the title. The Canon in D gets all the fluffy bunny occ-
asions and GE soft white light bulb commercials and Carmina Burana does horror
flicks.
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>>In fact, I think it's safe to say that Carmina Burana is now the most
>>overused piece of classical music in show business, supplanting the
>>previous champion, Pachelbel's Canon.
Remember around the mid-eighties when it was "Adagio for Strings"? Thank you, Platoon, The Elephant Man...
Q at USC
who has obviously been in college too long, because she just saw _Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome_ again last night and instead of being =
impressed at how cool it was she was impressed at the extremely effective use of the Greek chorus in the Wild Boys Jr. scene (help).=
.
>In fact, I think it's safe to say that Carmina Burana is now the most
>overused piece of classical music in show business, supplanting the
>previous champion, Pachelbel's Canon.
are you sure? i think mayhaps ride of the valkyries puts up a good
fight. or william tell. i can't decide. or toccata. not sure. i
can't decide.
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Of course, the only difference, they're all good except for the Canon,
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Oh cool! I've been looking for that song for a longish time, but I
never knew who did it. Not the original, I have that, but the techno
song.
ObSkating: Paul Wylie does a very cool program to this music.
Which prompted someone to post this to a skating list I'm
on (I thought it was hysterical, but so far, only my roommate
has laughed at it, too):
You say Car-meena
I say Car mine-a
You say Bur-anna
I say Bur -ahna
Car-meena, Carmine-a
Buranna, Burahna
Let's call the whole thing Orff.
Amy
... oh, dear. I slay me.
ObMUT3K: It was extensively used in the trailers for the highly
unnecessary Highlander sequel that "starred" (if you can call
it that) Mario Van Peebles.
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Ah, but the 1812 Overture puts a good run for the money, as does
Beethoven's 5th Symphony. Plus, during Christmas time, you get overuse
of Beethoven's 9th Symphony and Handel's Messiah, as well as
Greensleeves (in "What Child is This?") And let's not forget Beethoven's
Fur Elise and Debussy's Claire de Lune which gets heavy airplay as
romantic pieces. Let's also not forget Mozart's tune that eventually
became "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". Plus one that deserves honorable
mention, even though she is not a classical artist: Enya's "Storms in
Africa", which I personally think is the most overused trailer music
(I've counted it in at least _5_ trailers), not to mention the album
(Watermark)'s use in films like _L.A. Story_. Dare we mention the
Wedding March and Pomp and Circumstance? And United Airlines certainly
promoted An American in Paris enough. Heck, even Phillip Glass's
_Einstein on the Beach_ recently got a promo spot.
But I challenge a commercial to use an artist like John Cage. (:
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>romantic pieces. Let's also not forget Mozart's tune that eventually
>became "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".
You forgot "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik." Even the Brains fell for that one.
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Rhapsody in Blue, my friend. Entirely different animal.
The thing is, you are correct on all the pieces you mentioned,
but when you sit down and actually listen to them without any
visual images, they're still great music, which I'm not sure you
can say about any top 40 song today. Two of my personal
favorites -- Debussy's Clair de Lune (which is totally atypical
Debussy, btw) and the entire Messiah.
Amy, who actually listens to the Impressionists voluntarily
Well wait a minute. You're comparing top 40 musicians to
classical composers. No matter how much like a rock star Mozart
or Beethoven probably were, they weren't really the same thing.
They didn't write songs to sell records and such to millions of
people. Weren't they usually commisioned by royalty to write
stuff? And occassionally they wrote for themselves, as well. In
addition, to get hired to write a piece back then, didn't you
have to be proficient, and not just a pretty face? I think if
you want to compare them to someone you should compare them to
modern composers.
And on that subject you might be right. I don't know of many
modern composers. I think Glass is a joke, personally. Copland
just recently passed away, and I think he had some significant
works. And I have to say I recently heard a piece by a composer
from my home town of Flint Michigan. He won some sort of
composition competition, and quite frankly it was excellent. I
think that the music we hear in day to day life is the
equivalent of what we see on TV. Entertaining and mostly just
trash, with the occasional amazingly good piece which of course
gets no airplay and is eventually cancelled/dropped/whatever.
>Two of my personal
> favorites -- Debussy's Clair de Lune (which is totally atypical
> Debussy, btw) and the entire Messiah.
Clair de Lune is fun to play!
> Amy, who actually listens to the Impressionists voluntarily
Wasn't Debussy really the only Impressionist musician? Who else
are you counting?
Darrin
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>You say Car-meena
>I say Car mine-a
>You say Bur-anna
>I say Bur -ahna
>Car-meena, Carmine-a
>Buranna, Burahna
>Let's call the whole thing Orff.
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> >>Hello! I have another question. (sorry) What's the piece of music
> >>that is used for Tom Servo's Theme song? (the Violent Years)
> >>Believe it or not, It's been bothering me for about eight months!
> >Carl Orff's _Carmina Burana_, which can be heard in a lot of movie
> >preview trailers as well as Apotheosis' "O Fortuna" techno hit.
>
> Oh cool! I've been looking for that song for a longish time, but I
> never knew who did it. Not the original, I have that, but the techno
> song.
I saw someone skating to that this weekend (during the Super Bowl) on
ESPN. I was going to post about this weird Carmina Burana version.
Hey, wait a minute. That wasn't _YOU_, was it?!
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Well, if you ever saw Shostakovitch do his John Wayne, you'd know.
(An entire thread on classical music has just been reduced to a set-up for a
pun: sad, really - but what the hey?)
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Doh! Right composer, wrong piece. (:
: The thing is, you are correct on all the pieces you mentioned,
: but when you sit down and actually listen to them without any
: visual images, they're still great music, which I'm not sure you
: can say about any top 40 song today. Two of my personal
: favorites -- Debussy's Clair de Lune (which is totally atypical
: Debussy, btw) and the entire Messiah.
True. Most Top 40 pieces simply tend to fade away after time, or get
overplayed. Most good classical I can still listen to. (BTW, I know what
you mean about Debussy- Clair de Lune is a piece he wrote at a
relatively young age, before he started doing more impressionistic
stuff, like Prelude de L'Apres-Midi D'un Faune (more typical and equally
known for morning/sunrise scenes).)
On the other hand, there are quite a bit of composers still floating
around there. I know many think Phillip Glass is a joke, but one can't
really discount Terry Riley and Steve Reich for their contributions.
(And Einstein on the Beach IMHO can't be discounted no matter what you
think of Glass.) The thing is, I think a lot of today's would-be
classical composers are doing other things. For all you know, Brian Eno,
Frank Zappa, and others may have been classical artists in another time
period. Heck, many of today's soundtrack composers (John Williams, James
Horner, Maurice Jarre, Hans Zimmer, et al) are doing what Mozart did
before. While many of the pieces of the above are fluff, I think many of
Mozart's prolific output is fluff as well. Music really hasn't changed,
it's just become more commercialized. (: Innovation that is popular is
few and far between.
(And to Darren- The Impressionists of music certainly include Debussy
and Ravel, plus a couple of other French artists that I can't think of.
Gershwin sometimes is thrown in the category although I personally
wouldn't count him as such.)
Yes. Most often, to be a successful composer or artist, you needed
a patron.
>And occassionally they wrote for themselves, as well. In
>addition, to get hired to write a piece back then, didn't you
>have to be proficient, and not just a pretty face?
Weeeeelllll... depends on what your patron had in mind,
ifyaknowwhatImean. And there was a lot of crappy music
around back then, just like there is now. But the filter of
time has eliminated most of the crap, and we're left with
the best stuff.
Example -- in Bach's (J.S., that is) time, if you had asked
the average music-knowing-type-person who the best composer
of the day was, they would have said Telemann, almost certainly.
Time has proven that wrong. Telemann is still well-known and
-respected, still played (especially by violists who have almost
no repetoire of their own, lemme tell you), but Bach is considered
the genius.
So in other words, I'm not comparing them, really -- I'm just
saying I prefer not to have to listen to the drek while I'm
waiting for the gem. There's some brilliant music out there
today. You just have to work to find it. Besides, I think
as a culture, we're more accepting of mediocrity now than
ever before. But as for brilliant modern composers -- Barber,
Copland, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Bernstein are all good examples.
Except they're all dead now. I think you have to look outside
the US to find the best stuff now (try Arvo Part, I've heard he's
really good). We Americans are, in general, too self-obsessed...
it's a problem with literature, too.
Way to go, Darrin, getting me started on this!
>Wasn't Debussy really the only Impressionist musician? Who else
>are you counting?
Well, Impressionism is really a misnomer,
but Faure, Satie, Ravel (to an extent)... those guys. And "Clair
de Lune" isn't typical of Debussy. Listen to "La cathedrale engloutie"
if you want to hear Debussy at his best.
Amy, done preaching now, thanks.
>Plus one that deserves honorable
>mention, even though she is not a classical artist: Enya's "Storms in
>Africa", which I personally think is the most overused trailer music
>(I've counted it in at least _5_ trailers), not to mention the album
>(Watermark)'s use in films like _L.A. Story_.
I enjoy hearing her music - when I hear it in a commercial, I sit up & take
notice. Same with her sister Maire's "Harry's Game" theme from the VW
commercial, Patriot Games, etc.
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Yes!!! More PDQ Bach fans!!! They exist!!!
My favorite has got to be the Missa Hilarious..."donna nobis pasta"!
>>romantic pieces. Let's also not forget Mozart's tune that eventually
>>became "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".
>You forgot "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik." Even the Brains fell for that one.
Huh? I have that on CD, I've listened to it, and I never connected it
to MST. Care to explain yourself?
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>pmue...@airnet.net (Phil Mueller) writes:
>
>>>romantic pieces. Let's also not forget Mozart's tune that eventually
>>>became "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".
>
>>You forgot "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik." Even the Brains fell for that one.
>
>Huh? I have that on CD, I've listened to it, and I never connected it
>to MST. Care to explain yourself?
At the end of [501] _Warrior of the Lost World_ (much better than the
_Finder of the Lost Loves_), Tom sings the info club address to the tune of
"Eine Kleine ..."
phil "failed miserably at transcribing the lyrics" mueller
> "Clair de Lune - in English, 'Clear the Saloom'"
And now the "Magic Bowl Movement" from "Symphony in C-Minus" by Johann
Amadeus Matesky!
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Note to all people looking for it: The techno hit "O Fortuna", arguably
one of the better techno songs around, is no longer available to the
masses due to rights problems with the Orff estate. ):
:
-sw- [Not to brag, but I do have it on tape- it's on my original Rave
'Til Dawn compilation. So nyah. (: ]
>Hey, wait a minute. That wasn't _YOU_, was it?!
Oh yeah! That was me! You mean the excrutiatingly slow one with
one spin that barely makes it through three revolutions and a jump
that doesn't actually leave the ice, right?
I must have a Doppelganger who's a much better skater than I
am.
Amy, I'm slow but I'm not very strong
Why does this remind me of "New Horizons in Music Appreciation"?
Amy, my favorite band is the Turtle Mountian Naval Base Tactical
Wind Ensemble
"And they're off! with a four-note theme."
ROTFL. Is this from something in particular?
Of course it is! It's from Professor Peter Scheikele,
doctor of something at the University of Southern North
Dakota at Hoople, radio host on WOOF. Also known as his
alter ego, PDQ Bach (the 21st son of JS Bach -- the one
they never talk about).
It's off an old album of his. Can't remember the album,
but the track is "New Horizons in Music Appreciation."
He and this other guy call the first movement of
Beethoven's Fifth as if it were a baseball game.
"It's complete chaos down there! No one knows where
the theme is. I thought the violins had it there for a minute
but..."
Amy
The album's title is _P.D.Q. Bach On the Air_.
The track also appears on one of the _Wurst of P.D.Q. Bach_ releases.
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>But of course.
>It's from "New Horizons in Music Appreciation." :-)
>But seriously, folks, "New Horizons in Music Appreciation" is one of
>the best darned works of on-target wackiness to come out of the mind
>of Peter Schickele. (Schickele is also the mastermind behind P.D.Q.
>Bach, "The Oddest of J.S. Bach's 20-odd children.")
> It's a musicological analysis of Beethoven's Symphony Number 5 in
>C minor (first movement) told through the eyes of sportscasters. Having
>had to sit through SEVERAL analyses of classical music pieces in my
>undergrad years (I was a music composition major), this particular
>treatment of Beethoven's Fifth really struck a cord with me. (Pun
>intended.) I particularly liked "The brasses are taking the theme and
>running ahead! This piece is going to go into overtime, Bob, I can
>tell you that!".
>So, Amy, as is tradition here on RATMM:
>Since we seem to share a common interest, will you marry me?
Don't do it, Amy - you can do better than *that*.
jess
Personally, I like "The Seasonings." Of course, nothing can beat
his duet (Concerto for Two Violins mit Orchestra) with Itzahk
Perlman on Evening with Pops. Who knew Itzahk was that funny?
I mean, he is my all-time favorite violinist, but I had no idea he
could be a comedian, too, until I saw him put his violin in his
lap and strum it like a banjo while singing.
Amy
"The fugue is dedicated to his girlfriend at the time, and it is
of... enormous proportions."
I had a feeling it was him. I just found out last week that the
local public radio station plays Scheikele Mix every Sunday. I
think I'll start giving it a listen.
"He's thrown in the brass and the tympani, and it's tutti all the way, folks;
he's got a great piece on his hands here..."
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>Or the tender seduction scene from "The Abduction of Figaro," where
>our hero woos his fair maid by serenading her with a steel guitar solo.
This whole thread reminds me--I've got Tom Servo's "Carmina Burana"
theme as a WAV file, and I'm seriously thinking about using that as a
boot sound on our new Windows NT server (which is going to be named Tom
Servo, if *I* have any say in it).
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Or the tender seduction scene from "The Abduction of Figaro," where
our hero woos his fair maid by serenading her with a steel guitar solo.
Amy
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leave you in a ditch someplace for that record.
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>boot sound on our new Windows NT server (which is going to be named Tom
>Servo, if *I* have any say in it).
Around here, our Windows NT/Linux system is named crow, since he likes PCs
and my Mac is named tom-servo, for obvious reasons.
Here's an actual excerpt from my hosts file:
crow IN A 198.136.172.1 ; 486 Tower
tom-servo IN A 198.136.172.2 ; PowerMac
cambot IN A 198.136.172.3 ; Mac server
gypsy IN A 198.136.172.4 ; Duo
sampo IN A 198.136.172.5 ; Paul's Mac
torgo IN A 198.136.172.6 ; RS/6000 (not working)
That last one has to be the most appropriate one of the bunch
(whether its working or not). I assume it was running AIX at one point?
ThE mAsTeR wOuLd NoT aPpRoVe Of BaD uNiX cLoNeS.
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I like P.D.Q. Bach too! Ever see the video _The Abduction of Figaro_?
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>> sampo IN A 198.136.172.5 ; Paul's Mac
>Well, hey, my hard drive is appropriately named the Satellite of
>Love...
Well, then, just remember to use a surge protector every time you insert
a hard disk into your Satellite of Love...
jess
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some work.) Heck, if more OS's utilized the volume group concept I'd be a
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>
>That last one has to be the most appropriate one of the bunch
>(whether its working or not). I assume it was running AIX at one point?
>
It was, until we replaced the startup drive without having an 8mm tape
drive to re-load AIX.