WOTP: Brief Dragoin*Con report
Sheryl Gere
Er, that's Dragon*Con...oops
Well, I'm back, and I thought I'd share some of my thoughts
with you all(aren't you lucky<g>)
1) The con was huge...in four different buildings, three of which
were connected by habitrail-like walkways..
2)Nothing directly related to MST3K was presented. There was Mystery
Trekkie Theater 3000, which was a video presentation that was ok.
(though I may have blurted out the best line of the night)
3)There was a HK movie marathon, sponsered by Tai Seng Video and
hosted by some guy from _Inside Kung-Fu_ magazine. I saw "Wheels
on Meals", The Heroic Trio, The Executioners, Bride With White Hair
(1 and 2) and part of Black Cat(didn't really like it much). There was
other stuff I wanted to see(Wing Chung and Fong Sai Yuk, in particular)
but it was on at ungodly hours...
4)Lots of B5 stuff...got promo postcards from the TNT folks.
5)Putting stuffed animals in bondage is just plain wrong.
(A ridiculous amount of people there were Goths or into
B&D)
Sheryl, let's see if this thread goes anywhere...and
BREASTS!
--
"The"Sheryl(MSTie#12802)
B5 fan, Filker and bookaholic
Will mutate genes for food
Kevin Mowery
Sheryl Gere (she...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: Er, that's Dragon*Con...oops
: Well, I'm back, and I thought I'd share some of my thoughts
: with you all(aren't you lucky<g>)
[Saa-NIP!]
: 3)There was a HK movie marathon, sponsered by Tai Seng Video and
: hosted by some guy from _Inside Kung-Fu_ magazine. I saw "Wheels
: on Meals", The Heroic Trio, The Executioners, Bride With White Hair
: (1 and 2) and part of Black Cat(didn't really like it much). There was
: other stuff I wanted to see(Wing Chung and Fong Sai Yuk, in particular)
: but it was on at ungodly hours...
Wing Chun is a good one (it was on TNT the other night, and I
taped it, and may I just say "Mmmm... Michelle Yeoh...."). Fong Sai Yuk
is actually one of my favorites. Who knew Jet Li could do comedy (well,
up until the last half when it shifts to a revenge theme)?
If you can find these elsewhere, get 'em.
Gotta run, have an unwatched tape of "The Protector" waiting for me.
--
Kevin "Professor Bobo" Mowery________...@freenet.columbus.oh.us
"My own feeling is that movies get pretty much the audiences they deserve:
People tend to be quiet for good movies, and noisy during bad ones . . . ."
--Roger Ebert, review of "Mystery Science Theater 3000: the Movie"
Sheryl Gere
On 2 Jul 1997, Kevin Mowery wrote:
> Sheryl Gere (she...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
> : Er, that's Dragon*Con...oops
>
> : Well, I'm back, and I thought I'd share some of my thoughts
> : with you all(aren't you lucky<g>)
>
> [Saa-NIP!]
>
> : 3)There was a HK movie marathon, sponsered by Tai Seng Video and
> : hosted by some guy from _Inside Kung-Fu_ magazine. I saw "Wheels
> : on Meals", The Heroic Trio, The Executioners, Bride With White Hair
> : (1 and 2) and part of Black Cat(didn't really like it much). There was
> : other stuff I wanted to see(Wing Chung and Fong Sai Yuk, in particular)
> : but it was on at ungodly hours...
>
> Wing Chun is a good one (it was on TNT the other night, and I
> taped it, and may I just say "Mmmm... Michelle Yeoh...."). Fong Sai Yuk
> is actually one of my favorites. Who knew Jet Li could do comedy (well,
> up until the last half when it shifts to a revenge theme)?
> If you can find these elsewhere, get 'em.
I've seen Wing Chun in my local(but not for much longer) video store, but
have had no luck in finding Fong Sai Yuk
> Gotta run, have an unwatched tape of "The Protector" waiting for me.
The Protector?
"The"Sheryl(MSTie#12802 is curious, black and blue<g>)
Kevin Mowery
Sheryl Gere (she...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: On 2 Jul 1997, Kevin Mowery wrote:
: > Wing Chun is a good one (it was on TNT the other night, and I
: > taped it, and may I just say "Mmmm... Michelle Yeoh...."). Fong Sai Yuk
: > is actually one of my favorites. Who knew Jet Li could do comedy (well,
: > up until the last half when it shifts to a revenge theme)?
: > If you can find these elsewhere, get 'em.
: I've seen Wing Chun in my local(but not for much longer) video store, but
: have had no luck in finding Fong Sai Yuk
One of the Chinese groceries here in Columbus has a copy or three,
but they are horribly unorganized, and cram enough videotapes for a
moderate-sized video store into a backroom, double-shelving everything so
it'd take an hour just to see what was in.
At the next convention you go to, you might look around. If you
come up to Origins, there were a couple of booths selling HK movies for
about $10-15 per last year.
: > Gotta run, have an unwatched tape of "The Protector" waiting for me.
: The Protector?
A fairly slow-moving Jackie Chan movie from the mid-'80s. He was
cast as a NYPD detective along with Danny Aiello. They go to Hong Kong to
rescue a girl from a drug kingpin.
There are flashes of the Jackie Chan style, but it's no Operation
Condor. It was one of a couple of unsuccessful attempts to bring JC
fandom to Americans.
Mike Sphar
Did Ancient Astronauts named kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery)
once write the following? Read the book:
> Wing Chun is a good one (it was on TNT the other night, and I
>taped it, and may I just say "Mmmm... Michelle Yeoh...."). Fong Sai Yuk
>is actually one of my favorites. Who knew Jet Li could do comedy (well,
>up until the last half when it shifts to a revenge theme)?
Is "Fong Sai Yuk" also known as "Last Hero in China"? (Plot revolves
around a martial arts master opening a school next to a brothel.) I just
saw that at the weekly Hong Kong Cinema and it was *hilarious*. (Seeing
Jet Li do an extended martial arts sequence more or less dressed like a
chicken, complete with chicken noises, was priceless.)
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Sheryl Gere
In article <5pf07b$h...@login.freenet.columbus.oh.us>,
Kevin Mowery <kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us> wrote:
>Sheryl Gere (she...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
>: On 2 Jul 1997, Kevin Mowery wrote:
>
>: > taped it, and may I just say "Mmmm... Michelle Yeoh...."). Fong Sai Yuk
>: > is actually one of my favorites. Who knew Jet Li could do comedy (well,
>: > up until the last half when it shifts to a revenge theme)?
>
>: I've seen Wing Chun in my local(but not for much longer) video store, but
>: have had no luck in finding Fong Sai Yuk
>
> One of the Chinese groceries here in Columbus has a copy or three,
>but they are horribly unorganized, and cram enough videotapes for a
>moderate-sized video store into a backroom, double-shelving everything so
>it'd take an hour just to see what was in.
> At the next convention you go to, you might look around. If you
>come up to Origins, there were a couple of booths selling HK movies for
>about $10-15 per last year.
There were a few booths at Dragon*Con selling HK movies...all in
construction paper covers.
Whee! Copyright violation is fun!
>: > Gotta run, have an unwatched tape of "The Protector" waiting for me.
>
>: The Protector?
>
> A fairly slow-moving Jackie Chan movie from the mid-'80s. He was
>cast as a NYPD detective along with Danny Aiello. They go to Hong Kong to
>rescue a girl from a drug kingpin.
> There are flashes of the Jackie Chan style, but it's no Operation
>Condor. It was one of a couple of unsuccessful attempts to bring JC
>fandom to Americans.
Ah...I think this was the one someone here told me to avoid...
There's enough decent Chan I haven't seen for me to skip mediocre-to-bad
Chan
Let's see...Project A(and the sequel), Armor of God(and the sequel), Twin
Dragons, the various Police Story movies, City Hunter...
Sheryl, I just need to find a source of these films in Montgomery County, MD
--
"The"Sheryl(MSTie#12802)
Kevin Mowery
Mike Sphar (mi...@matches.com) wrote:
: Did Ancient Astronauts named kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery)
: once write the following? Read the book:
: >taped it, and may I just say "Mmmm... Michelle Yeoh...."). Fong Sai Yuk
: >is actually one of my favorites. Who knew Jet Li could do comedy (well,
: >up until the last half when it shifts to a revenge theme)?
: Is "Fong Sai Yuk" also known as "Last Hero in China"? (Plot revolves
: around a martial arts master opening a school next to a brothel.) I just
: saw that at the weekly Hong Kong Cinema and it was *hilarious*. (Seeing
: Jet Li do an extended martial arts sequence more or less dressed like a
: chicken, complete with chicken noises, was priceless.)
Nope. I think that LHiC is one of the movies that Jet Li plays
Wong Fei Hong in.
In Fong Sai Yuk, our hero is one of the best martial artists in
the land, although he's also impulsive and foolhardy. He enters a contest
to win the hand of Ting Ting, daughter of the reformed bandit Tiger. To
win he has to fight Tiger's wife (played by the lovely Sibelle Hu)--first
one to touch the ground loses. Ting Ting doesn't want to be married this
way, so she gets her homely maid to masquerade as her, and when Sai Yuk
gets a look at the maid, he forfeits. His mom hears about this and to
defend the family honor (she's the one who taught Sai Yuk his kung fu)
dresses as his imaginary older brother Fong Tai Yuk and goes and wins
against Tiger's wife. Tiger's wife falls in love with Tai Yuk.
(Previously, Sai Yuk and Ting Ting had met at some track and field games
and been attracted to each other, but didn't learn who each other were.)
That's just the first half of the film. The second half deals
with a scroll full of names of people in the Red Lotus society, which is
dedicated to bringing down the Manchu empire. Turns out Fong Sai Yuk's
dad is part of the Red Lotus and Tiger is friends with the evil governor.
After one of Sai Yuk's friends is killed, the movie switches tone to a
revenge piece--although how dark can you get when people are fighting on
wires?
Kevin Mowery
Sheryl Gere (she...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: > At the next convention you go to, you might look around. If you
: >come up to Origins, there were a couple of booths selling HK movies for
: >about $10-15 per last year.
: There were a few booths at Dragon*Con selling HK movies...all in
: construction paper covers.
: Whee! Copyright violation is fun!
If I can get my hands on Chinese Ghost Story or Mr. Nice Guy, I'm
not going to argue.
: > A fairly slow-moving Jackie Chan movie from the mid-'80s. He was
: >cast as a NYPD detective along with Danny Aiello. They go to Hong Kong to
: >rescue a girl from a drug kingpin.
: > There are flashes of the Jackie Chan style, but it's no Operation
: >Condor. It was one of a couple of unsuccessful attempts to bring JC
: >fandom to Americans.
: Ah...I think this was the one someone here told me to avoid...
: There's enough decent Chan I haven't seen for me to skip mediocre-to-bad
: Chan
Ah, but it was on TNT, so I effectively have a copy for 1/3 the
cost of a videotape. For that kind of price, I can be a little
indiscriminate.
: Let's see...Project A(and the sequel), Armor of God(and the sequel), Twin
: Dragons, the various Police Story movies, City Hunter...
I've seen Operation: Condor, Twin Dragons, 3 out of the 4 Police
Story movies (haven't seen #2), and Drunken Master I. And Rumble in the
Bronx, of course.
For older stuff that wasn't as good I've seen New Fist of Fury (I
think that was the title), Fearless Hyena I & II, To Kill With Intrigue,
Fantasy Mission Force (which wasn't actually older stuff--it was
mid-'80s--but was so bizarre that I only liked it as a car-wreck kind of
thing), the Big Brawl (which wasn't quite as bad as people think), and
Half A Loaf of Kung Fu (sorry, folks, but only the last fight in HaLoKF
was really entertaining).
It's easier to find the bad stuff, and only in Fearless Hyena II,
To Kill With Intrigue, and New Fist of Fury did I find nothing redeeming.
: Sheryl, I just need to find a source of these films in Montgomery County, MD
I don't want to fill up newsgroup bandwidth too much with
adresses, butI have the names of some places in DC, Baltimore, and a
couple of other towns in Maryland. E-mail me if you want addresses and
phone numbers.
Mike Sphar
Did Ancient Astronauts named kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery)
once write the following? Read the book:
>: Is "Fong Sai Yuk" also known as "Last Hero in China"? (Plot revolves
>: around a martial arts master opening a school next to a brothel.) I just
>: saw that at the weekly Hong Kong Cinema and it was *hilarious*. (Seeing
>: Jet Li do an extended martial arts sequence more or less dressed like a
>: chicken, complete with chicken noises, was priceless.)
>
> Nope. I think that LHiC is one of the movies that Jet Li plays
>Wong Fei Hong in.
Yes, exactly! Wong Fei Hong was his character's name. (For some reason I
was thinking it was "Hong Wei Fong" and thus thought "Fong Sai Yuk" might
be an alternate name. (Seeing as how I clearly don't speak a lick of
Japanese.)
Kevin Mowery
Mike Sphar (mi...@matches.com) wrote:
: Did Ancient Astronauts named kemo...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Kevin Mowery)
: once write the following? Read the book:
: > Nope. I think that LHiC is one of the movies that Jet Li plays
: >Wong Fei Hong in.
: Yes, exactly! Wong Fei Hong was his character's name. (For some reason I
: was thinking it was "Hong Wei Fong" and thus thought "Fong Sai Yuk" might
: be an alternate name. (Seeing as how I clearly don't speak a lick of
: Japanese.)
:) :) :)
Wong Fei Hong and Fong Sai Yuk are two vastly different Chinese
cultural heroes. Fei Hong represents stability and Confucian ideals. Sai
Yuk was more of a butt-kicker.
In Drunken Master II, the guy who plays the general that fights
alongside Jackie Chan was, IIRC, the son of one of WFH's students.
Jamie Plummer
Sheryl Gere (she...@acpub.duke.edu) wrote:
: Sheryl, I just need to find a source of these films in Montgomery County, MD
Flip through the ads in the DC weekly _CityPaper_.
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Jamie Plummer jcp9j@...virginia.edu URL: faraday.clas.virginia.edu/~jcp9j