Origins of the term "cheese burrow"?
Rev. Maynard
Hey all, weird question -
I'm taking a design class and we were going over pipes and accessories and
we got to the cheese burrow (sp?). I asked why it was called this, the
professor didn't know, but said I could get extra credit if I found out.
Any one know? Even a convincing sounding wrong answer would probably
work...:)
I'd prefer email, because I don't check r.a.t.s. (nice acronym)
consistently, but whatever's cool.
Danke.
- Darin
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Stephen A. Mayotte
I am led to believe that there was/is a company call "Cheese Brothers"
The units were marked "Cheese Bro"
Now we have Cheeseboro
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Cailen Waddell
Isn't It Spelled Cheese Burough?
Cailen Waddell
Joshua Rosenau
In article <smayotte-220...@news.tiac.net>, smay...@mmsl.com
(Stephen A. Mayotte) wrote:
>In article <QEy5LLEcqI+k@forest>, dwoo...@forest.drew.edu (Rev. Maynard)
wrote:
>
>> Hey all, weird question -
>>
>> I'm taking a design class and we were going over pipes and accessories and
>> we got to the cheese burrow (sp?). I asked why it was called this, the
>> professor didn't know, but said I could get extra credit if I found out.
>> Any one know? Even a convincing sounding wrong answer would probably
>> work...:)
>> I'd prefer email, because I don't check r.a.t.s. (nice acronym)
>> consistently, but whatever's cool.
>>
>> Danke.
>
>I am led to believe that there was/is a company call "Cheese Brothers"
>
>The units were marked "Cheese Bro"
>
>Now we have Cheeseboro
>
I always assumed that they were originally manufactured by a company named
Cheeseboro, based in a town called Cheeseboro. This requires fewer steps
and
no misspelling to arrive at this etymology, which means it's probably wrong.
The easiest solution to the problem is to simply claim that their name is
"Cheeseburger," and make up whatever story seems funniest to you.
After all, everyone calls them that.
--
Remember: pedantry leads to crowded sidewalks, then child molestation.
So cut it out. --Ted Frank, alt.religion.kibology
Joshua Rosenau jros...@midway.uchicago.edu
http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/jrosenau
Lindsay Gordon
From way upside down on the southern part of the planet - what is a
cheese burrow (or shouldn't I ask)?
>----------
>From: dwoo...@forest.drew.edu[SMTP:dwoo...@forest.drew.edu]
>Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 1997 07:25
>To: stage...@europe.std.com
>Subject: Origins of the term "cheese burrow"?
>
>Hey all, weird question -
>
>I'm taking a design class and we were going over pipes and accessories and
>we got to the cheese burrow (sp?). I asked why it was called this, the
>professor didn't know, but said I could get extra credit if I found out.
>Any one know? Even a convincing sounding wrong answer would probably
>work...:)
>I'd prefer email, because I don't check r.a.t.s. (nice acronym)
>consistently, but whatever's cool.
>
>Danke.
>
>- Darin
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>like yelling the letter G when everyone knows it's supposed to be silent in
>that round. _______________________________________ - Jon Carroll
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SCParker
We call them cheese burgers, vs. hamburgers fixed vs swivel
--
Scott C. Parker s...@techie.com
Scott Parker Associates Designers of Light & Shadow
New York City
sarah
Lindsay Gordon wrote:
>
> From way upside down on the southern part of the planet - what is a
> cheese burrow (or shouldn't I ask)?
a piece of hardware that connects 2 pieces of pipe.
hard to describe...maybe someone better at ascii art than i will attempt
but there is a center piece that goes between the pipes, and a hinged
piece on each side that goes over each pipe and bolts closed.
the center piece is either solid (fixed or perpendicular) or 2 separate
pieces that swivel.
and i thought it was spelled "cheeseborough"
sarah
Jeff Darden
Lindsay Gordon wrote:
>
> From way upside down on the southern part of the planet - what is a
> cheese burrow (or shouldn't I ask)?
>
Lstuder
Dear Lindsay,
Thanx for asking- I didn't want to admit that I'd never heard of them by
that name either- and I'm a California boy. Having read the description, I
now know what they are, but have no recollection of what name they were
called by.
LArry (Lstuder @ aol.com)
Dave Groh
Stephen A. Mayotte wrote:
>
> In article <QEy5LLEcqI+k@forest>, dwoo...@forest.drew.edu (Rev. Maynard) wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm taking a design class and we were going over pipes and accessories and
> > we got to the cheese burrow (sp?). I asked why it was called this, the
> > professor didn't know, but said I could get extra credit if I found out.
> > Any one know? Even a convincing sounding wrong answer would probably
> > work...:)
> > I'd prefer email, because I don't check r.a.t.s. (nice acronym)
> > consistently, but whatever's cool.
> >
> > Danke.
> >
> > - Darin
> > --
> > "If Life is like singing the song B-I-N-G-O, then wearing a golf shirt is
> > like yelling the letter G when everyone knows it's supposed to be silent in
> > that round. _______________________________________ - Jon Carroll
> > -=http://www.goecitions/com/soho/6550=-
>
>
> The units were marked "Cheese Bro"
>
> Now we have Cheeseboro
>
Cheeseburger,Cheeseburger,Cheeseburger- NO fries!
Hows Business in your neck of the woods Stephen?
Explaination sounds logical-I'll take it-never really gave the subject
much thought.
Amazing what you come across in these newsgroups!
Bsapsis
Just to make it more interesting, in some parts of Europe they
(cheesboroughs) are called "handcuffs"
Bill Sapsis
Gareth Hughes
The message <19970923113...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
from bsa...@aol.com (Bsapsis) contains these words:
> Just to make it more interesting, in some parts of Europe they
> (cheesboroughs) are called "handcuffs"
> Bill Sapsis
Oooh! Never heard that one! If you are talking about the kind of
clamps I THINK you're talking about, we just call them 'scaff clamps'
(the sort for joining bars side by side) or simply 'joiners' (the
sort for joining bars end to end). Not very inventive, I know, but we
Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
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Kenny
In article <342737...@vassar.edu>, sarah <*sathiboutot*@vassar.edu> writes:
> and i thought it was spelled "cheeseborough"
It almost definitely is. I, being the Tech Acolyte that I am, had only
heard the word before, and was spelling foh-net-uh-cu-lee.
The interesting thing about it is I made a joke about calling it a
cheeseburger as soon as I heard it. I didn't realize I was being so
unoriginal...
Thanks to everyone who's responded. In a weird way this is kind of cool.
:)
- Darin
ps - Anyone want to take my midterm for me? :)
pps - Thanks also to all the people who responded to the post about blacklight
and water effects. I'm that person's ALD for the water effect show.
Jim Taylor
Well, it's Cheeseborough, for one.
I believe it's the double fitting that allows pipes to be held tightly
while crossing at 90-deg angles. Probably named either after the
inventor or the company that first made them popular.
Peace
JT
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"You take the little that you know and you do the best you can;
And see the rest with the quiet faith of man."
--Bill Staines
Lindsay Gordon
The message from Gareth Hughes said:
Snip .....
>Oooh! Never heard that one! If you are talking about the kind of
>clamps I THINK you're talking about, we just call them 'scaff clamps'
>(the sort for joining bars side by side) or simply 'joiners' (the
>sort for joining bars end to end). Not very inventive, I know, but we
>Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
>
Similarly, in New Zealand we just call them scaffolding clamps.
>
Fzapfan
I've always seen cheeseboro, but it is a scaffold clamp-purchased from
scaffold companies. As for the name, why is a sawed in half, sharpened
Ford axel used for grounding called a bull prick in film land? Who knows.
Enjoy your catalog Bill.
Panther
Not very inventive, I know, but we
> Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
been curious about this expression for awhile.
Clive Mitchell
In article <3428DB...@ix.netcom.com>, Panther <pan...@ix.netcom.com>
writes
When _I_ use the term I mean "spade" as in "bucket and spade". I've
always interpreted it as being an act of keeping things simple and
logical.
In other words, Brits don't like to call a spade a multi-function-earth-
displacement-device-with-multi-angular-insertion-ability. :)
--
Clive Mitchell
www.emanator.demon.co.uk
Lighting animators and FX.
Tim Morrissey
Lindsay Gordon wrote:
>
> The message from Gareth Hughes said:
>
> Snip .....
>
> >Oooh! Never heard that one! If you are talking about the kind of
> >clamps I THINK you're talking about, we just call them 'scaff clamps'
> >(the sort for joining bars side by side) or simply 'joiners' (the
> >Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
> >
>
> >
Roto-locks are a trademark name for them. Cheaseborough was one of the
other companies that made them.
Slainte,
Timmy
Gareth Hughes
The message <3428DB...@ix.netcom.com>
from Panther <pan...@ix.netcom.com> contains these words:
> Not very inventive, I know, but we
> > Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
> I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
> others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
> to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
> the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
> been curious about this expression for awhile.
I think you'll find that a spade is actually a large, paddle-like
tool with a wooden handle, used for digging things with. ;-)
Panther
Clive Mitchell wrote:
>
> In article <3428DB...@ix.netcom.com>, Panther <pan...@ix.netcom.com>
> writes
> >> Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
> >
> >I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
> >others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
> >to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
> >the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
> >been curious about this expression for awhile.
>
> always interpreted it as being an act of keeping things simple and
> logical.
>
> displacement-device-with-multi-angular-insertion-ability. :)
> --
Ah, another possibility I hadn't even considered. Here, the word
"shovel" is used far more frequently than "spade", although it is still
a word that we understand if we see it somewhere.
Scriblerus
> Anyone know
>> the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
>> been curious about this expression for awhile.
>
>
Anon or Trad. is responsible yet again, as in the famous exchange from The
Importance:
Cecily:... When I see a spade I call it a spade.
Gwendolen: I am glad to say that I have never seen a spade. It is obvious
that our social spheres have been widely different.
JHB
Philip Hazel
|> > In other words, Brits don't like to call a spade a multi-function-earth-
|> > displacement-device-with-multi-angular-insertion-ability. :)
|> > --
|> Ah, another possibility I hadn't even considered. Here, the word
|> "shovel" is used far more frequently than "spade", although it is still
|> a word that we understand if we see it somewhere.
I don't know if this is generally true of Brits, but I think of a
shovel as having a larger area of blade, often with slightly curled up
edges, compared to a spade.
Just to make this sort-of on topic: Has anybody used a spade (or a
shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
--
Philip Hazel
University Computing Service, Cambridge, England.
Andy Broomsgrove
In article <34273C...@norfolk.infi.net>, jmda...@norfolk.infi.net
(Jeff Darden) wrote:
But only in the US
Andy
di...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
To satisfy your curiosity--
It's neither. To call a spade a spade refers to a garden
spade,- a short-handled shovel with a pointed end. The figure on a deck of
cards looks like a stylised spade, hence the name; and I guess black
people get called spades is because the spades in a deck of cards are...
black. (See how it all makes sense?)
And by the way-- my Backstage Handbook spells it "Cheseborough",
which I would also assume is the originators name.
--Dick.
Panther (pan...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Not very inventive, I know, but we
: > Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
: I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
: others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
: to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
Douglas Boyd
On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 20:42:14 -0700, Panther <pan...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
>Clive Mitchell wrote:
>>
>> In article <3428DB...@ix.netcom.com>, Panther <pan...@ix.netcom.com>
>> writes
>> >Not very inventive, I know, but we
>> >> Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
>> >
>> >I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
>> >others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
>> >to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
>> >the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
>> >been curious about this expression for awhile.
>>
>> When _I_ use the term I mean "spade" as in "bucket and spade". I've
>> always interpreted it as being an act of keeping things simple and
>> logical.
>>
>> In other words, Brits don't like to call a spade a multi-function-earth-
>> displacement-device-with-multi-angular-insertion-ability. :)
>> --
>Ah, another possibility I hadn't even considered. Here, the word
>"shovel" is used far more frequently than "spade", although it is still
>a word that we understand if we see it somewhere.
No, no, a spade has a rectangular blade and is used for digging
edgings and trenches. A shovel is something that Smokey the Bear
holds, and works crews lean on :)
Douglas Boyd
Stageworks Theatrical Equipment
Auckland, New Zealand
Scriblerus
> The figure on a deck of
>cards looks like a stylised spade, hence the name; and I guess black
>people get called spades is because the spades in a deck of cards are...
>black. (See how it all makes sense?)
The figure on a deck of cards is called "Spade" in English because it is
an Anglicisation of the Italian Spada meaning "sword"[Latin spatha, Greek
spathe, Old English spadu, Old Norse spathi, Old High German spato, all
meaning "a blade", the original European suits being Cups, Balls, Swords
and Batons (there are other variations). The emblem became distorted
through the centuries.
A spade/shovel is obviously a kind of a blade.
The term as used for black people derives from the (perhaps derogatory,
but not necessarily ) expression "Black as the Ace of Spades".
Regards JHB
Gareth Hughes
The message <60dbo5$7o8$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
from ph...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) contains these words:
> Just to make this sort-of on topic: Has anybody used a spade (or a
> shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
Oh, dear - I really seem to have opened (or dug up???) a can of worms here!
The best possible use for a shovel in the context of the theatre is
for drunkenly trying to bury the remains of the fire at the end of a
really good beach party!
Panther
> OH BTW .. I FOUND IT
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> The NUMBER ONE
> To the MAX
>
> OXYMORON ........
>
> " FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INITIATIVE "
That's a great one, but how about "UNION LABOR"?
(Panther lights the match, throws it and runs for his life...)
i...@delicolor.co.uk
On Wed, 24 Sep 1997 19:12:59 +0100, Gareth Hughes (Usenet)
<lo...@sig.for.real.address> wrote:
>I think you'll find that a spade is actually a large, paddle-like
>tool with a wooden handle, used for digging things with. ;-)
No, that is a horticultural earth inverting implement.
(Too much time reading specs!)
Ian Grey
i...@delicolor.co.uk
charles.hope
In article <60dbo5$7o8$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, ph...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip
Hazel) wrote:
> Just to make this sort-of on topic: Has anybody used a spade (or a
> shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
>
>
Hamlet - gravediggers scene -? Act V Scene 1
My copy has stage directions which read:
" Enter two Clowns with spades and picks."
--
Charles
There is always a better way of doing it!
charles.hope
In article <92F+ZEAr...@emanator.demon.co.uk>, Clive Mitchell
<cl...@emanator.REMOVEdemon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> In other words, Brits don't like to call a spade a multi-function-earth-
> displacement-device-with-multi-angular-insertion-ability. :)
>
But sometimes we call it a " ****** shovel"!
Glenville T. Sawyer
Now this is MY kind of thread :) ......
>Just to make this sort-of on topic: Has anybody used a spade (or a
>shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
Yes, fairly recently, we had a roof section that was discovered to
be displaced ( PC term for - it was "flapping in the breeze" ),
and there had been several hundred pigeons taking advantage of the
undercover parking that our roof space provided, ( no direct access
to the stage thank God ), in the course of checking some cable ducting /
trunking / whatever you want to call it where you live, I made the
joyous discovery of the mountains of pigeon shi.... er um ..
waste !
A shovel seemed more appropriate with the curved sides, it prevented
the
crap from sliding off, as it would no doubt have done, had I used a
spade.
See, and you thought this was going to be another pedantic meandering
amongst the relics of misnomers.
OH BTW .. I FOUND IT
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The NUMBER ONE
To the MAX
OXYMORON ........
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Regards Glenville.
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Andy Broomsgrove
In article <3428DB...@ix.netcom.com>, pan...@ix.netcom.com (Panther)
wrote:
> Not very inventive, I know, but we
> > Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
>
> I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
> others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
> to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
> the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
> been curious about this expression for awhile.
>
Have you never heard of a device with wooden handle and a metal blade at
one end used for digging holes?
I think that's the type of spade the expression refers to. I've always
assumed that the "spades" of playing cards were originally a stylised
drawing of a spade.
I've no idea how it came to be a slang term for black men, I don't think
it was used to refer to women, was it?
Andy
rod...@cstone.net
Everyone has had differing exoeriences but I had never heard the term
applied only to the male gender. I had always heard it used to
describe any black person.
On 26 Sep 1997 12:34:18 GMT, abro...@cix.co.uk (Andy Broomsgrove)
wrote:
Panther
Andy Broomsgrove wrote:
>
> In article <3428DB...@ix.netcom.com>, pan...@ix.netcom.com (Panther)
> wrote:
>
> > Not very inventive, I know, but we
> > > Brits like to call a spade a spade ...
> >
> > I'm sure it wasn't intended this way, nor was it intended this way by
> > others I've heard using it, but I wonder if this expression is referring
> > to the spades on cards, or the ethnic slur against blacks? Anyone know
> > the expression's origins? Yeah, I know it's off-topic a bit, but I've
> > been curious about this expression for awhile.
> >
> Have you never heard of a device with wooden handle and a metal blade at
> one end used for digging holes?
>
> I think that's the type of spade the expression refers to. I've always
> assumed that the "spades" of playing cards were originally a stylised
> drawing of a spade.
>
> it was used to refer to women, was it?
Someone else mentioned the expression "black as the ace of spades",
which is probably how that slang term came about. And yes, I've heard
of a spade used for digging, it's just a rarely-used term here.
Clive Mitchell
In article <na.f3414847cf.a6...@argonet.co.uk>, "charles.
hope" <charle...@argonet.co.uk> writes
>But sometimes we call it a " ****** shovel"!
Which only goes to prove that it must have curved-up sides, since this
type of use involves operation on a horizontal plane with substances of
varying consistency. Thus the curved sides would be required to prevent
the **** running off.
Panther
charles.hope wrote:
>
> In article <60dbo5$7o8$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>, ph...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip
> Hazel) wrote:
>
> > shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
> >
> >
>
>
> My copy has stage directions which read:
>
> " Enter two Clowns with spades and picks."
....sounds like 'props' to me...
Steve Howard
> I always assumed that they were originally manufactured by a company
> named
> Cheeseboro, based in a town called Cheeseboro. This requires fewer
> steps
> and
> no misspelling to arrive at this etymology, which means it's probably
> wrong.
>
> The easiest solution to the problem is to simply claim that their name
> is
> "Cheeseburger," and make up whatever story seems funniest to you.
>
> After all, everyone calls them that.
I recall a tale told about an American tour in Sydney, Australia and a
Yank rigger asks this young Australian loader(stage hand) to get him a
cheeseboro. What with accents and all there was a misunderstanding, the
kid was gone for a while, then returns with a Maccas cheeseburger from
the McDonalds store in the lobby.
What happens to tours in South America when you ask for a coke?
Steve Howard
Kevin MacGillivray
In message <60dbo5$7o8$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
ph...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) wrote:
> Just to make this sort-of on topic: Has anybody used a spade (or a
> shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
>
Yep. Used a shovel to lift floor cloths that have been 'tacked' down.
Also to shovel out rather a lot of ice after we have an ice show in.
--
Kevin MacGillivray
Gareth Hughes
The message <2ab21d047%Ke...@fingask.demon.co.uk>
from Kevin MacGillivray <Ke...@fingask.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> Yep. Used a shovel to lift floor cloths that have been 'tacked' down.
A garden hoe in a long handle is good for this also.
> Also to shovel out rather a lot of ice after we have an ice show in.
Ouch! I remember doing that - three times! First time was for
Stageworks (Blackpool Pleasure Beach) - that wasn't too bad. The next
two were Wild Rose Productions - they did Phantom On Ice and Carmen
On Ice. A word of warning to any resident crews in the UK or Europe
who are due to work on a Wild Rose ice show - their tech staff are
the lasiest bastards in the world. We struggled to get a 14m x 14m
ice rink broken up and shovelled out the dock door b4 it melted into
our trap room, and they just stood around and watched for 8 HOURS!
Idle f*ckers! (And I hope one of them reads this!) We had to send one
of our casual staff (very, very tall 19st. Geordie) away to the crew
room for a while before he flattened their stage manager - I'm sorry
we did that now!
LorPaschal
>I don't know if this is generally true of Brits, but I think of a
>shovel as having a larger area of blade, often with slightly curled up
>edges, compared to a spade.
>
>Just to make this sort-of on topic: Has anybody used a spade (or a
>shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
>
>
I worked for Lime Kiln in Lexington, VA one summer. It's an outdoor
theatre ("theatre in the woods," really) in an old lime quarry. It's very
picturesque, and they achieve beautiful effects with all the trees and
levels. But the stage and practically everything else was covered in rock
dust and sawdust. Shovels and rakes were requisite tools for the interns
and running crew.
-- Lori
Jon Erwin
>From way upside down on the southern part of the planet - what is a
>cheese burrow (or shouldn't I ask)?
According to "The Backstage Handbook" by the late Paul Carter, a
CheseBOROUGH (page 83, 3rd ed.) is a pipe clamp that connects two pipes
together with a hinged bolt that locks the pipes into place while still
allowing them to swivel. It's available for 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 ID pipe.
Jon
Kevin MacGillivray
In message <199709281...@zetnet.co.uk> you wrote:
> The message <2ab21d047%Ke...@fingask.demon.co.uk>
> from Kevin MacGillivray <Ke...@fingask.demon.co.uk> contains
these words:
>
> > Yep. Used a shovel to lift floor cloths that have been 'tacked'
down.
>
> A garden hoe in a long handle is good for this also.
It used to be till I 'borrowed' it for my garden ;-)
> > Also to shovel out rather a lot of ice after we have an ice show
in.
> Ouch! I remember doing that - three times! First time was for
> Stageworks (Blackpool Pleasure Beach) - that wasn't too bad. The
next
> two were Wild Rose Productions - they did Phantom On Ice and Carmen
> On Ice.
Yep. We've had Wild rose...
> A word of warning to any resident crews in the UK or Europe
> who are due to work on a Wild Rose ice show - their tech staff are
> the lasiest bastards in the world. We struggled to get a 14m x 14m
> ice rink broken up and shovelled out the dock door b4 it melted
into
> our trap room, and they just stood around and watched for 8 HOURS!
If memory serves me well, we managed to get Carmen out in about 5
hours,
we'd have been done a lot earlier if they hadn't decided to 'cap' the
the ends of the Pipe sections with discs of wood, so as to prevent any
Glycol left in leaking... didn't work, as soon as we move the sections
Glycol went everywhere.
So what's the longest your ice has survived outside before melting
away ?:-)
--
Kevin MacGillivray
Richard_Grevers
"Jon Erwin" <pha...@iwaynet.net~> writes: > >From way upside down on the southern part of the planet - what is a
Do you mean a "Swivel Clamp"? i.e. angle between pipes changes,
or is it something where the pipes rotate in the same line?
Richard Grevers (also upside down!)
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roger traviss
Jon Erwin (pha...@iwaynet.net~) wrote:
: >From way upside down on the southern part of the planet - what is a
: >cheese burrow (or shouldn't I ask)?
: According to "The Backstage Handbook" by the late Paul Carter, a
: CheseBOROUGH (page 83, 3rd ed.) is a pipe clamp that connects two pipes
: together with a hinged bolt that locks the pipes into place while still
: allowing them to swivel. It's available for 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 ID pipe.
To those who use UK terms, it's a common "scaffold clamp".
Cheers
Roger Traviss
From rainy Victoria, BC Canada
Gareth Hughes
The message <6a87f4d147%Ke...@fingask.demon.co.uk>
from Kevin MacGillivray <Ke...@fingask.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
> So what's the longest your ice has survived outside before melting
> away ?:-)
>
Well, half of our scene dock was not reachable by truck fro about 5
or 6 days after our first ice experience. We learned after that and
hired skips in. You should see the look on the driver's face when he
turns up after a few days to collect several skips full of water!!
Martin Theobald
Gareth Hughes (Usenet) wrote:
<snipped>
> or 6 days after our first ice experience. We learned after that and
> hired skips in. You should see the look on the driver's face when he
> turns up after a few days to collect several skips full of water!!
>
The Palace in Manchester used to dump the ice in the canal outside the
dock doors. No reports of ice burgs in the Ship Canal though.
Martin Theobald
Martin Theobald
Kevin MacGillivray wrote:
>
> In message <60dbo5$7o8$1...@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
> ph...@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) wrote:
>
> > shovel) in the theatre, other than as a prop?
> >
>
>
> Kevin MacGillivray
Spades can be used to unlock fire exits fitted with crash bars. However
thay cannot defeat chair or stool locks!
Martin Theobald
Thomas J. Noe
<and works crews lean on>
No truer words etc. etc. . . but the fellow with the orange flag is
getting paid more. The reason being, it is harder to lean on the flag.
T. J.
ps- thanks to all who replied to my "candy glass" post
Dave Vick
In article <616mtl$a...@mtinsc02.worldnet.att.net>,
"Noe...@worldnet.att.net"@worldnet.att.net wrote:
>> <and works crews lean on>
>>
>> No truer words etc. etc. . . but the fellow with the orange flag is
>> getting paid more. The reason being, it is harder to lean on the flag.
I really need to get around to replacing all those "men working" signs
with "men f**king off" signs at all those road-construction sighs in the
neighborhood, I see...
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