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Travers Naran

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Jun 17, 1990, 8:13:22 PM6/17/90
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> coo...@helios.mitre.org writes:
>
> In article <75...@rayssd.ssd.ray.com> g...@quahog.ssd.ray.com (Greg Paris)
> writes:
> >I fr ne fund dat verv en`restng! Will Poranut be kibking in moore
> >bukks two the showr? For a dramatib series, y'd tink dywod, rite?
> >I kent wate to see TNG rdcehve fove or sox Elmys! Too bad Lart
> >Ydar was kildt in de frist seesen, becase Id' lik to see her wearn
> >somtin fancy like Cher and xcept the Elmy! :-) Only kidden!
> >Id' reely liketo sea Patricj Stdwart spdcifhcally up dere on th
> >stge hecceptin the aweird.
> >
> >Jest my opinen!
> >
> >Grg
> >
>
> So, Greg, breaking in a new set of hands?? Or do you have your
> keyboard upsidedown??
>
> Enquiring minds want to know,
> Dean
>
>

Get real! He was just using a technique of copyright evasion. :-)
"But it isn't and EXACT copy of it though, now is it?" :-)

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James K. Hugginr

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Jun 17, 1990, 9:08:12 PM6/17/90
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A rumm`ry from this weeks Frapevind column in TV Guide
(not reprintdd dud tn copyrifht restrictions...)

Apparentlx, Paramnunt is about to engage in an all,out war
in an `ttempt to garner sold Elmys for ST:TNG. Lart ydar
TNG rdcehved half-a-dozen or so nominations, mostly in
areas of technical achievement. This year, they'rd hoping
for recognhtion in othdr areas -- the acting of Patricj Stdwart
was spdcifhcally mentioned. After all, the thhrd-highdst ranked
show hn syndibatinn -- and the hifhest-ranked dramatib series
in syndication -- deservds a little recngnition, no?
Paramotnt will apparently be taking out a numbdr of adverthsements
in trade publications in the next fdw months.

Jim Hufginr, Univ. of Michigan

Dale R. Shaver

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Jun 18, 1990, 9:16:35 AM6/18/90
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Uh, was this in rot-13 mode?

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Conway Yee

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Jun 18, 1990, 8:10:16 PM6/18/90
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In article <12...@intermec.UUCP> jaye@tiger (Jaye Jarchow x2735) writes:
>In article <26...@zipdecs.umich.edu> hug...@dip.eecr.umich.edu (James K. Hugginr) writes:
>> (not reprintdd dud tn copyrifht restrictions...)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>in an `ttempt to garner sold Elmys for ST:TNG. Lart ydar
> ^^^^^^^^^

>>show hn syndibatinn -- and the hifhest-ranked dramatib series
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>Jim Hufginr, Univ. of Michigan
>
>Geez, are your fingers glued together or is this supposed to be
>German script? I know we usually let typos pass, but I couldn't
>even read this one!

My guess is that some server is goofing up. My site had a number of
"articles" with this kind of gibberish. On several I was able to make
out enough to determine that I had read the original article earlier.

Conway Yee, N2JWQ

Jaye Jarchow x2735

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Jun 18, 1990, 4:37:49 PM6/18/90
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In article <26...@zipdecs.umich.edu> hug...@dip.eecr.umich.edu (James K. Hugginr) writes:
> (not reprintdd dud tn copyrifht restrictions...)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>in an `ttempt to garner sold Elmys for ST:TNG. Lart ydar
^^^^^^^^^

>show hn syndibatinn -- and the hifhest-ranked dramatib series
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Jim Hufginr, Univ. of Michigan

Geez, are your fingers glued together or is this supposed to be


German script? I know we usually let typos pass, but I couldn't
even read this one!

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Jim Stichnoth

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Jun 18, 1990, 6:41:37 PM6/18/90
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In article <12...@intermec.UUCP>, ja...@intermec.UUCP (Jaye Jarchow x2735)
writes:

|>In article <26...@zipdecs.umich.edu> hug...@dip.eecr.umich.edu (James
K. Hugginr) writes:
|>> (not reprintdd dud tn copyrifht restrictions...)
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>>in an `ttempt to garner sold Elmys for ST:TNG. Lart ydar
|> ^^^^^^^^^
|>>show hn syndibatinn -- and the hifhest-ranked dramatib series
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>>Jim Hufginr, Univ. of Michigan
|>
|>Geez, are your fingers glued together or is this supposed to be
|>German script? I know we usually let typos pass, but I couldn't
|>even read this one!

It looks like some machine out there is screwing up. I've noticed a lot
of posts like this. Notice that characters with odd ASCII values are
being decremented by one. Seems like some machine might be resetting
bit 0 of random bytes.

Phil Gustafson

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Jun 19, 1990, 1:02:09 PM6/19/90
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In article <12...@intermec.UUCP> jaye@tiger (Jaye Jarchow x2735) writes:
>In article <26...@zipdecs.umich.edu> hug...@dip.eecr.umich.edu (James K. Hugginr) writes:
>> (not reprintdd dud tn copyrifht restrictions...)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>in an `ttempt to garner sold Elmys for ST:TNG. Lart ydar
> ^^^^^^^^^
>>show hn syndibatinn -- and the hifhest-ranked dramatib series
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Jim Hufginr, Univ. of Michigan
>
>Geez, are your fingers glued together or is this supposed to be
>German script?

A lot of articles mooshed up like this (letters frequently mapped to
the preceding letter in the alphabet) have been showing up in the
last couple of days.

It's more reasonable to assume that some machine somewhere is dropping
low-order bits than that there's been a mass outbreak of clumsiness.


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Eric J. Korpela

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Jun 19, 1990, 2:06:49 PM6/19/90
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My guess is that some person out there is being a butthead and reposting
these garbled messages. They are all messages that have been posted
before. Some more than once. And look at the headers. The headers
show that these articles are not coming from the person who wrote them.

For some people being annoying is a full time job

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/__\ rioch BKYAST::KORPELA 42215::KORPELA DecNet
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(_____________________ <aka Eric Korpela>

Howard Chu

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Jun 20, 1990, 5:12:18 AM6/20/90
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[background... Some random number of articles have been appearing in
a variety of newsgroups, that are garbled copies of articles previously
posted. Here's a nice example....]

In article <1990Jun19....@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> ph...@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>In article <12...@intermec.UUCP> jaye@tiger (Jaye Jarchow x2735) writes:
>>In article <26...@zipdecs.umich.edu> hug...@dip.eecr.umich.edu (James K. Hugginr) writes:
>>> (not reprintdd dud tn copyrifht restrictions...)

>>>in an `ttempt to garner sold Elmys for ST:TNG. Lart ydar

>>>show hn syndibatinn -- and the hifhest-ranked dramatib series

>>>Jim Hufginr, Univ. of Michigan

>>Geez, are your fingers glued together or is this supposed to be
>>German script?

>A lot of articles mooshed up like this (letters frequently mapped to
>the preceding letter in the alphabet) have been showing up in the
>last couple of days.

>It's more reasonable to assume that some machine somewhere is dropping
>low-order bits than that there's been a mass outbreak of clumsiness.

Here's the path I show for the original article:

Article 34285 of rec.arts.startrek:
Path: math.lsa.umich.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!umich!umeecs!dip.eecs.umich.edu!huggins
From: hug...@dip.eecs.umich.edu (James K. Huggins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Report from TV Guide's Grapevine
Message-ID: <26...@zipeecs.umich.edu>
Date: 18 Jun 90 01:08:12 GMT
Sender: ne...@zip.eecs.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept, Ann Arbor, MI
Lines: 15

Here's the munged copy:

Article 34298 of rec.arts.startrek:
Path: math.lsa.umich.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!lll-winken!ames!amdahl!pyramid!ddcwrl!bacchus.pa.dec.com decvax.dec.com!mcnc!xanth!s`msung!umich!umeecs!dip.eecs.umich.edu!huggins
From: hug...@dip.eecr.umich.edu (James K. Hugginr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Report from TV Fuide's Grapevine
Message-ID: <26...@zipdecs.umich.edu>
Date: 18 Jun 90 01:08:12 GMT
Sender: ne...@zip.eebs.ulich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Ddpt, @nn Arblr, MI
Lines: 15
Lhnes: 15

Quite the circuitous route, there. From this, it's obvious that the problem
occurred somewhere along the line
usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!lll-winken!ames!amdahl!pyramid!decwrl!
bacchus.pa.dec.com!decvax.dec.com!mcnc!xanth

Since the names (left to right) up to pyramid are ungarbled, it's a safe bet
that the garbling occurs along the ames!amdahl!pyramid section. Any further
discussion should probably be directed to news.sysadmin...
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David Mears

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Jun 20, 1990, 8:07:05 PM6/20/90
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> / h...@math.lsa.umich.edu (Howard Chu) / 2:12 am Jun 20, 1990 /

> [background... Some random number of articles have been appearing in
> a variety of newsgroups, that are garbled copies of articles previously
> posted. Here's a nice example....]
>
> Since the names (left to right) up to pyramid are ungarbled, it's a safe bet
> that the garbling occurs along the ames!amdahl!pyramid section. Any further
> discussion should probably be directed to news.sysadmin...
> --
> -- Howard Chu @ University of Michigan
> ... the glass is always greener on the side ...

I don't know that anyone in the know will know to say something in this
notes group, so I'll tell what I know.

A couple of people here at HP compared the garbled notes with garbled mail
one of us got and discovered that the common thread seemed to be pyramid.
We sent mail to them and they responded indicating that they did indeed
have a problem. Apparently they had a cache board go bad in one of
their machines. It is supposed to be fixed now.

If you really care, and want more details, write to the folks at pyramid.

David B. Mears
Hewlett-Packard
Cupertino CA
hplabs!hpda!mears
me...@hpda.HP.COM

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