Why does everything bad happen to Harry Kim?
Arthur Levesque
John Cook (sevm...@sev.com.au) wrote:
JC>It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens
JC>to Harry Kim...
Yeah, Seven of Nine tried to have sex with him. That sucks.
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David
Arthur Levesque wrote:
>
> John Cook (sevm...@sev.com.au) wrote:
> JC>It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens
> JC>to Harry Kim...
>
> Yeah, Seven of Nine tried to have sex with him. That sucks.
> --
Finally something good happens to Harry!
Frank Louis
John Cook wrote:
>
> It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
> Harry Kim. Whether it's mutation, sucked into space, abducted,
> imprisoned, killed, the writers always look to Harry.
Let's not forget that he is also the Harry Kim living with an
"alternate" crew!! I see your point. :) Looking forward to visiting
your site.
Frank
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It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
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Frank Louis
Chad Millar wrote:
>
> John Cook wrote:
> >
> > It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
> > Harry Kim. Whether it's mutation, sucked into space, abducted,
> > imprisoned, killed, the writers always look to Harry.
>
>
> Voyager - Harry Kim
> DS9 - Chief O'Brien
> TOS - Chekov
> TNG - I'm still thinking about this one....
I guess for TNG it would have to be Data.
He's been impaled, shot with an arrow (by Deanna), lost his head,
kidnapped, electrocuted (in the episode Disaster), and in First Contact
had part of his face, arm and eye ripped off.
Frank
Philip Molter
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Chad Millar wrote:
: Every Trek has to have its victim
: Voyager - Harry Kim
: DS9 - Chief O'Brien
Having to work with that damn Nog is punishment enough.
: TOS - Chekov
Or any red-shirt.
: TNG - I'm still thinking about this one....
Barclay.
Charlene
Chad Millar <fer...@australia.net.au> wrote:
>Every Trek has to have its victim
>
>Voyager - Harry Kim
>DS9 - Chief O'Brien
>TOS - Chekov
>TNG - I'm still thinking about this one....
TNG - The Viewer
Sorry! Sorry! I just couldn't help it! :)
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Mike Balkan
Chad Millar wrote:
> John Cook wrote:
> >
> > It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
> > Harry Kim. Whether it's mutation, sucked into space, abducted,
> > imprisoned, killed, the writers always look to Harry.
>
> Every Trek has to have its victim
>
> Voyager - Harry Kim
> DS9 - Chief O'Brien
> TOS - Chekov
> TNG - I'm still thinking about this one....
Definitely Geordi. Just look at the facts:
- He was shot with a Ferengi whip in "The Last Outpost"
- He was captured and shot by the Pakleds in "Samaritan Snare"
- He fell down a hole in "The Enemy"
- He was attacked by Danar in "The Hunted"
- He changed into an alien in "Identity Crisis"
- He was captured by the Romulans in "The Mind's Eye"
- He was shot with a phaser in "Starship Mine"
- He went into neural shock in "Timescape"
- He was captured by Data and Lore in "Descent, Part II"
- He went in neural shock in "Interface"
- He was captured by the Klingons in "Star Trek: Generations"
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Graham Kennedy
Chad Millar wrote:
>
> John Cook wrote:
> >
> > It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
> > Harry Kim. Whether it's mutation, sucked into space, abducted,
> > imprisoned, killed, the writers always look to Harry.
>
> Every Trek has to have its victim
>
> Voyager - Harry Kim
> DS9 - Chief O'Brien
> TOS - Chekov
> TNG - I'm still thinking about this one....
Geordi. Used to loose his VISOR at every opportunity,
was tortured by Romulans, phased into nothingness with
only Ro Laren for company (yuk!), brain turned to jelly
on Galornden Core, completely failed to get off with a
woman in the whole of TNG, nearly got shot by the
Ansata terrorists.
There's probably more, but I can't think of them.
--
Graham Kennedy
Chad Millar
Leon van Daal
Hey come to think of it every Trek has its own
different-from-the-rest-person
Voyager - The Doc (Holodoctor)
DS9 - Odo
TOS - Spock
TNG - Data
Leon van Daal
Michael Wong
>JC>It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens
>JC>to Harry Kim...
> Yeah, Seven of Nine tried to have sex with him. That sucks.
It DOES suck- he said no.
Philip Molter
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Leon van Daal wrote:
: Hey come to think of it every Trek has its own
: different-from-the-rest-person
:
: Voyager - The Doc (Holodoctor)
: DS9 - Odo
: TOS - Spock
: TNG - Data
Capitalizing on the success of Spock, a common theme has always
been an inhuman character attempting to find his/her humanity
despite the apparent futility of such an attempt.
Philip
The Shaw Family
This may be long, and a little confusing, so bear with me.
I don't really think Harry Kim is a "victim" character in the same way
that Chekov was. Chekov would get hurt to make a plot point. He was not
a major character, but at the same time he wasn't just your average
expendable crewmember. If the storyline called for an officer to be
injured, but not as a major plot point, it would be Chekov. Does that
make sense? Like in "Spectre of the Gun", where Chekov got shot and
killed by the pseudo-Earps. None of the others ccould have gotten
killed, because they all had a key role to play in the resolution of the
dilemma. It had to be Chekov, because he could get killed and it
wouldn't affect the storyline too drastically. Having a redshirt shot
would have been too impersonal and distant. With Chekov, there was at
least an element of concern from the other characters. Note that Scotty
got himself in trouble a few times too, in the same manner, like when he
was killed and revived by Nomad in "The Changeling". The "victimization"
of the character is more of a turning point for the plot, to point
something out (such as, Chekov was killed because he believed the
bullets were real, or, this Nomad is much more powerful than a normal
Earth probe should be) rather than a major emotional crisis like Spock's
getting shot in "A Private Little War".
Geordi and Harry, on the other hand, were victimized in a different
manner. Geordi's being trapped in a cave, blind, with a Romulan, was a
main plotline rather than a little plot device. He and the Romulan had
to trust each other in order for them both to get out alive, and that
WAS the plot. Harry's being infected with that weird mutating virus (if
I'm thinking of the right episode) was, among other things, a chance for
the rest of the crew to worry about their buddy Harry.
As for WHY the writers seem to pick on Harry more than anyone else, I
don't have a clue. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's
young, and innocent and/or cute. Go figure.
--DragonGrrl
Graham Kennedy
Leon van Daal wrote:
>
> Chad Millar wrote:
> >John Cook wrote:
> >>
> >> It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
> >> Harry Kim. Whether it's mutation, sucked into space, abducted,
> >> imprisoned, killed, the writers always look to Harry.
> >
> >Every Trek has to have its victim
> >
> >Voyager - Harry Kim
> >DS9 - Chief O'Brien
> >TOS - Chekov
> >TNG - I'm still thinking about this one....
>
> different-from-the-rest-person
>
> Voyager - The Doc (Holodoctor)
> DS9 - Odo
> TOS - Spock
> TNG - Data
It's a plot device. A good way of demonstrating Human traits is to have
characters who lack those traits and want them, or have them and don't
want them, or need to have them explained, etc.
--
Graham Kennedy
Coach
In article <66rkjm$r3h$2...@winter.news.erols.com>, Back*Sl...@Erols.Com
(Arthur Levesque) wrote:
>John Cook (sevm...@sev.com.au) wrote:
>JC>It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens
>JC>to Harry Kim...
>
> Yeah, Seven of Nine tried to have sex with him. That sucks.
Yeah... well... he, uh... didn't want it right then! Yeah!
/Coach
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JJohn94571
>>John Cook (sevm...@sev.com.au) wrote:
>>JC>It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens
>>JC>to Harry Kim...
That's because Voyager's HArrry Kim=South Park's Kenny
Michael Johnson
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Guinan
Coach <conn...@bc.edu> wrote in article
<connorbd-151...@st202x229.bc.edu>...
> In article <66rkjm$r3h$2...@winter.news.erols.com>, Back*Sl...@Erols.Com
> (Arthur Levesque) wrote:
>
> >John Cook (sevm...@sev.com.au) wrote:
> >JC>It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens
> >JC>to Harry Kim...
> >
> > Yeah, Seven of Nine tried to have sex with him. That sucks.
>
> Yeah... well... he, uh... didn't want it right then! Yeah!
>
> /Coach
>
Hehehe, why is it I have a hard time invisioning any red blooded Hetro male
thinking that sex with Seven is a *bad* thing?
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John Cook <sevm...@sev.com.au> wrote in article
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> It seems that whenever something bad happens on Voyager, it happens to
> Harry Kim. Whether it's mutation, sucked into space, abducted,
Luc Landry
Graham Kennedy <gra...@adeadend.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hey come to think of it every Trek has its own
> > different-from-the-rest-person
> >
> > Voyager - The Doc (Holodoctor)
> > DS9 - Odo
> > TOS - Spock
> > TNG - Data
>
> It's a plot device. A good way of demonstrating Human traits is to have
> characters who lack those traits and want them, or have them and don't
> want them, or need to have them explained, etc.
And to make Voyager better, they are introducing a new
different-from-the-rest-person : Seven of Nine. The doctor is already
the most popular caracter of this show, but in fact he is now too human
(since he intergratted lot of new programming) to serve the purpuse you
mentioned.
I think it's a good idea...
--
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Mark Hofer
>> > Hey come to think of it every Trek has its own
>> > different-from-the-rest-person
>> >
>> > Voyager - The Doc (Holodoctor)
>> > DS9 - Odo
>> > TOS - Spock
>> > TNG - Data
Note that Worf is not exactly the most normal officer in TNG or DN9.
Mark Hofer
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> John Cook (sevm...@sev.com.au) wrote:
>
> Yeah, Seven of Nine tried to have sex with him. That sucks.
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