OCAMPA's only live for 9 years ...but what is a year?
THE YODER FAMILY
then how could Nelix and all the others speak english on the other side of the
galaxy where they have never been?
yoda
Rob Hedges
> Roots (rmul...@bud.peinet.pe.ca) wrote:
>
> : Think about it! Who says a year on her planet is 365 days of 24 hours each.
> : That is an Earth year. All planets are different. Their "year" could be
> : extremely long. She might outlive them all!
>
I would assume that if the Universal Translator translates what everyone's
saying into English, a Terran language, then the word it translates as "year"
is a Terran year. Otherwise they might leave it untranslated and say that
Ocampa live for nine "goombas" or something.
--
Rob Hedges (colo...@leland.stanford.edu)
"What about my book, then?"
CB1Pearson
Questions:
<1> How will they handle Kes's aging? Obviously she will. Will they
age her 10 years for every season?
<2> Is it really feasible that a species would evolve enough to develop
language, intelligence, and civilization, not to mention telepathy
with a life span of only 9 years?
<3> With a humanoid pysiology, she obviously must have a high metabolism
to live such a short time. Why isn't Kes hungry all the time?
See ya,
Cliff Pearson
CB1Pe...@aol.com
db...@cleveland.freenet.edu
"DO NOT PRESUME THAT I AM HETEROSEXUAL"
sl...@cc.usu.edu
> I would assume that if the Universal Translator translates what everyone's
> saying into English, a Terran language, then the word it translates as "year"
> is a Terran year. Otherwise they might leave it untranslated and say that
> Ocampa live for nine "goombas" or something.
>
Of course, no translation is exact. If the Ocampa year is "pretty close" to a
year, then it would translate as "year." On the subject of universal
translators, why doesn't it take a while for the translator to "learn the
language?" Surely it can't read minds. (Why would we need Betazoids or
Vulcans? We have the universal mind-probe.)
Paul A. Scowen
|>
|> >
|> > : Think about it! Who says a year on her planet is 365 days of 24 hours each.
|> > : That is an Earth year. All planets are different. Their "year" could be
|> > : extremely long. She might outlive them all!
|> >
|>
|> I would assume that if the Universal Translator translates what everyone's
|> saying into English, a Terran language, then the word it translates as "year"
|> is a Terran year. Otherwise they might leave it untranslated and say that
|> Ocampa live for nine "goombas" or something.
What total twaddle! How the hell does the universal translator know
anything about the orbital mechanics of a planet orbiting a star on
the other side of the galaxy from the part of the galaxy it was designed
to be used in - its not freaking psychic for crying out loud.
Gimme a break....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul A. Scowen INTERNET: sco...@tycho.la.asu.edu
Department of Physics & Astronomy paul....@asu.edu
Arizona State University DECnet: PHYAST::SCOWEN
Box 871504 Bitnet: scowen@asu
Tempe, AZ 85287-1504 Tel: (602) 965-0938
USA FAX: (602) 965-7954
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jason Carreiro
|>
|> I would assume that if the Universal Translator translates what everyone's
|> saying into English, a Terran language, then the word it translates as "year"
|> is a Terran year. Otherwise they might leave it untranslated and say that
|> Ocampa live for nine "goombas" or something.
|>
|> --
|> Rob Hedges (colo...@leland.stanford.edu)
|> "What about my book, then?"
Not nesscesarily. Just because the universal translator turns goomba
into year dosen't mean it stops to think about how long a year is for these
people. All in All, I've seen the translator do some remarkable things, but
not telepathy. ;)
-MZ
Roots
>From: colo...@leland.stanford.edu (Rob Hedges)
>Subject: Re: OCAMPA's only live for 9 years ...but what is a year?
>Date: Tue, 17 Jan 1995 16:21:15 -0800
Exactly, we talk about a "day" or a "year" when we refer to other planets in
our own solar system and they are not the same they are on Earth.
I suspect the length of a year for an Ocampa will probably have more to do
with popularity of the character and contract negotiations : )
BTW wasn't there a Ray Bradbury story about a planet whre they lived their
whole lives in one day?? There was something wrong with the planet as
opposed to the genetics of the residents so they solved the problem by going
underground or something like that. Sorry to be vague but I read this about
25 years ago.
The Galaxy Ranger
>Exactly, we talk about a "day" or a "year" when we refer to other planets in
>our own solar system and they are not the same they are on Earth.
Well, Ordinarily I'd say yes, however, the writers at Paramount don't take
into account such technicalities. If they meant something else they would
have made it blatently obvious because I don't think they think we have
imaginations. When somebody says something in startrek it can usually be
taken at face value.
And another thing. Are their universal translators built into their comm
badges or do they need to pipe the conversation up to the main computers
to translate and send back? I find this very confusing. This is asuming
that they are speaking a differant language. This is Star Trek after all.
Beings half-way across the Universe will still be speaking English.
Battlestar Galactica used a universal translator which was much more
believable. A hand held device which would wait for the speaker to finish
before translating. I find it hard to believe that the translator will
translate in the speakers own voice.
-Dave
sl...@cc.usu.edu
> before translating. I find it hard to believe that the translator will
> translate in the speakers own voice.
>
In TOS "Metamorposis" is was established that the universal translator spoke in
the voice most appropriate for the being from which it was translated. It
could even translate a non-spoken language and provide a suitable voice.
Paul
Diana Goodwin
sco...@tycho.la.asu.edu writes:
>OK this is getting a little silly, but...
>
>to quote the WWW page on the Ocampans:
>
>"This alien species, mysteriously protected by the Array, has a life
span of
>only nine Ocampa years. Several hundred thousand Ocampa reside miles
>underground a hot, desert planet, where they have lived for over a
thousand
>years. Their below-the-surface habitat originated when the mysterious
global
>warming began, and their planet turned into a desert. It was at this
time
>that the Caretaker ordered the Ocampa to leave the surface to find
refuge
>and an abundance of water underground -- with strict instructions never
to
>return to the surface again."
>
>So their age is defined in terms of Ocampan years and that is governed by
>the orbital mechanics of their planet - could be any bloody thing - and
>probably not a terran year.
>
I seem to recall the Ocampan doctor/administrator who spoke with Harry
and B!elanna saying that they (the Ocampans) had lived underground for 50
generations. I usually think of a generation as being the length of time
between birth and procreation--about 25 or 30 earth years for a human. So
if 50 Ocampan generations have lived in 1000 years, that means each
generation is about 20 years apart--and the question is, whose years, how
long and who!s doing the math? One more expamle of sloppy. careless
thinking/writing on the part of the scriptwriters.
Stephan A. Manchir
>From: Diana Goodwin <good...@umich.edu>
>Subject: Re: OCAMPA's only live for 9 years ...but what is a year?
'cept, of course, that he said 500 generations. 2 years per generation
(Kes looks pretty mature at 1), and presto! 500x2=1000. One more
example of sloppy, careless thinking/listening on the part of the viewers :)
I'm pretty sure that the planet was pretty close to earth-normal in
revolutionary speed. They don't say it, but I suspect they would only
make a note of it if it wasn't. My guess is that most class-M planets have
similar years, unless they are around neutron stars or something similar.
Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm not. :)
Anyone have this on tape to check it out?
-Steve
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stephan A. Manchir sa...@po.cwru.edu; dr...@cleveland.freenet.edu
This message can be read in France, even though they surrendered in World War II.
WWW server: http://b61548.Student.CWRU.Edu
Stephan A. Manchir
>From: mer...@cs.bu.edu (Jason Carreiro)
>Subject: Re: OCAMPA's only live for 9 years ...but what is a year?
> -MZ
According to some TOS book, the UT can "read and map ... neuronic activity as
they speak"
This is of course, non-canon, but it sounds plausible.
As to why their lips move in sync? They don't want StarTrek to look like
some old Japanese monster movie! :)
Matthew Corey Brown
>
>Roots (rmul...@bud.peinet.pe.ca) wrote:
>
>: Think about it! Who says a year on her planet is 365 days of 24 hours each.
>: That is an Earth year. All planets are different. Their "year" could be
>: extremely long. She might outlive them all!
>
>
>likely that there is a paticular type of star and a particular distance from
>that star that the planet has to be for there to be a class M planet. The
>period of an orbit is a function of the mass of the star and the distance from
>it. This would mean that the lengths of years on class M planets cannot be
>too different.
>--
But then there is the question which planet at what system is the standard
The traders (I won't even attempt to spell the name) said it was 10 years
Tath would be their years, but what planet do they come from or do they come
from a planet at all, maybe a collection of astroids with outposts on that.
if that is the case then it could be 9 years is like 30 or 40 but they said
"only 9 years" Giving the fact that the years would be a short time to them.
if they have about 100 earth year lifespan. so i figure that a short time in
terms of life span is less then 20%. But the main question is follwing this
logic is how long do the traders live in earth years.
Then again the computer with the biogenic cuirity with the miraclous
universal translator automaticly translated the information. >grin, giggle<
____________________________
The Wildfire Strain
(Matthew Corey Brown)
wild...@halcyon.com
wild...@elwha.evergreen.edu
Chris J. Miller
> I seem to recall the Ocampan doctor/administrator who spoke with Harry
> and B!elanna saying that they (the Ocampans) had lived underground for 50
> generations.
I distinctly remember his saying *500* generations. That seems to jibe
better.
\ law...@xnet.com (Chris J. Miller) /
/ "It is a luxury to be understood." -Emerson \
Alejandro Olague
sa...@po.cwru.edu writes:
>I'm pretty sure that the planet was pretty close to earth-normal in
>revolutionary speed. They don't say it, but I suspect they would only
>make a note of it if it wasn't. My guess is that most class-M planets
have
>similar years, unless they are around neutron stars or something similar.
>
>Of course, I could be wrong, but I'm not. :)
>
>Anyone have this on tape to check it out?
I don't think you'd be able to have a class M planet around a neutron
star. Also, for class-M planets to have a year similar to ours, they'd
have to have a star like our own G3-type sun. What is to say that an
M-class planet can't revolve close around a dimmer, smaller sun and thus
have a shorter year? Or far away from a large ,hot star and have longer
year. I'm talking in comparison to our years.
Alex
JRDelirious
I was not able to watch the pilot uninterrupted, so I might
have missed it, but was it clear that they were talking about
9 of *our* "years"?
^^^^^
Just checking
--
---JRDelirious--- San Juan, Puerto Rico, US (sortof) Caribbean ----
(That's *Colonel* [Kentucky] JRDelirious to y'all :) )-----------
------------- Faceless behind-the-scenes government player; Pay no
attention to the man behind the curtain, y'know... ---------------
Matthew Corey Brown
>
>If the Ocampa only live 9 years, then this creates lots of problems.
>
>Questions:
>
><1> How will they handle Kes's aging? Obviously she will. Will they
> age her 10 years for every season?
>
I hope so, if not only to get rid of that wig! Icky-poo!
><2> Is it really feasible that a species would evolve enough to develop
> language, intelligence, and civilization, not to mention telepathy
> with a life span of only 9 years?
>
Yes, with these people anyway, remember the line "The storys of
our ancesters cognative ablielites" . maybe they have the potential
of IQ's above and beyond 300. If so might it not be because of the short
period of time the intelligence is so high because of speed of motablism?
><3> With a humanoid pysiology, she obviously must have a high metabolism
> to live such a short time. Why isn't Kes hungry all the time?
She either isn't using her brains to the fullest, hence not
requiring the energy (our brains use up over half of our energy intake)
or the Ocampa are very efficeint when it comes to engery needs. Our
bodies are rather wastefull...
Stephan A. Manchir
>From: Alejandro Olague <al...@umich.edu>
>Subject: Re: OCAMPA's only live for 9 years ...but what is a year?
>In article <sam14.188...@po.cwru.edu> Stephan A. Manchir,
>sa...@po.cwru.edu writes:
>>I'm pretty sure that the planet was pretty close to earth-normal in
>>revolutionary speed. They don't say it, but I suspect they would only
>>make a note of it if it wasn't. My guess is that most class-M planets
>have
>>similar years, unless they are around neutron stars or something similar.
>>
>I don't think you'd be able to have a class M planet around a neutron
>star. Also, for class-M planets to have a year similar to ours, they'd
>have to have a star like our own G3-type sun. What is to say that an
>M-class planet can't revolve close around a dimmer, smaller sun and thus
>have a shorter year? Or far away from a large ,hot star and have longer
>year. I'm talking in comparison to our years.
Yes, that's what I meant. I was exaggerating a bit when I said a neutron star.
:)
However, the exterior shots looked like they were shot under a yellow star,
so I would assume it was one similar to our sun. :)
(Yes, I know, they HAD to be shot under a yellow sun. I was kidding)
Still, I think they meant about 9 earth-years. The WWW page info seems to
correspond with this, and it's from paramount as well.
-Steve
>Alex
Tom Rothamel
: In article <colothys-170...@cedro-powermac.stanford.edu>, colo...@leland.stanford.edu (Rob Hedges) writes:
: |>
: |> > Roots (rmul...@bud.peinet.pe.ca) wrote:
: |> >
: |> > : Think about it! Who says a year on her planet is 365 days of 24 hours each.
: |> > : That is an Earth year. All planets are different. Their "year" could be
: |> > : extremely long. She might outlive them all!
: |> >
: |>
: |> I would assume that if the Universal Translator translates what everyone's
: |> saying into English, a Terran language, then the word it translates as "year"
: |> is a Terran year. Otherwise they might leave it untranslated and say that
: |> Ocampa live for nine "goombas" or something.
: What total twaddle! How the hell does the universal translator know
: anything about the orbital mechanics of a planet orbiting a star on
: the other side of the galaxy from the part of the galaxy it was designed
: to be used in - its not freaking psychic for crying out loud.
Ah, but it is. The UT contais in it a tiny temporal warp. It sends the
info thru a time loop to the past after it has been translated, and also
after enough info has been gathared about the people. This also explains
why it translates at the same time the speaker is talking, instead of
waitiong to the end of the sentence to convert grammar.
It then routes thru a microholoprojectordiode to project the translation
on the speaker's mouth, no matter how far away said mouth is (trapped on
a planet 10000 lyrs from nearest translater? No Problem
---
Tr...@Netusa.Net is only kidding.
wa...@ac.dal.ca
> In article <3fn1qm$jeg$3...@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, JRDelirious <75114...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>>
>> I was not able to watch the pilot uninterrupted, so I might
>> have missed it, but was it clear that they were talking about
>> 9 of *our* "years"?
>sorry abou the mistake in the prevois arctile
> Actually I belive in the intrudtion special it isays that one Omcapa
> year (sp?) is 20 earth years.
wa...@ac.dal.ca
>
> have missed it, but was it clear that they were talking about
> 9 of *our* "years"?
Actually I belive in the intrudtion special it isays that one Omcapa
(sp?) is 20 earth years.
> ^^^^^
The Maestro, 364B Founders, 3721354
In a previous article, wa...@ac.dal.ca () says:
>In article <3fn1qm$jeg$3...@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, JRDelirious <75114...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>>
>> I was not able to watch the pilot uninterrupted, so I might
>> have missed it, but was it clear that they were talking about
>> 9 of *our* "years"?
>
> Actually I belive in the intrudtion special it isays that one Omcapa
> (sp?) is 20 earth years.
I missed that reference. Anyway, I don't know if I would agree. One
Omcapa leader had stated that they had been underground for "500
generations." The Vulcan (I don't have the names down yet, sorry) said
that they had been underground for "a millennium." The way the math
works out, one generation is 20 years. Now, I don't know specifically
what is meant by "generation" (beside it being a fairly mediocre movie).
Is a "generation" equal to a lifespan? Or is it simply a length of time
wherin new Omcapa will replace the leadership of the old? Discuss
amongst yourselves... Either way, a nine-year lifespan does not work out.
-mike.
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to
the fundamental question of philosophy." -Camus
The Maestro/mhorvat@{bgnet,opie,bgsuvax}.bgsu.edu/ct...@cleveland.freenet.edu
Lynda Moulton
>It then routes thru a microholoprojectordiode to project the translation
>on the speaker's mouth, no matter how far away said mouth is (trapped on
>a planet 10000 lyrs from nearest translater? No Problem
>
>---
ROTFL, Tom. Come here whilst I shake your net.hand *shake*shake*.
Lynda Moulton '''' =(_)= '''' \_\
moul...@post.queensu.ca moul...@qucdn.queensu.ca
Devin R. Clancy
mho...@bgnet.bgsu.edu (The Maestro, 364B Founders, 3721354) writes:
>
>In a previous article, wa...@ac.dal.ca () says:
>
>>In article <3fn1qm$jeg$3...@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, JRDelirious <75114...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>>>
>>> I was not able to watch the pilot uninterrupted, so I might
>>> have missed it, but was it clear that they were talking about
>>> 9 of *our* "years"?
>>
>> Actually I belive in the intrudtion special it isays that one Omcapa
>> (sp?) is 20 earth years.
and such that discuss her life-span as nine years. What they should have done
was have the aliens refer to it in totally different terms so our friend Tuvok
could put in "... about nine earth years judging by our studies of this
system". -Devin
Stephan A. Manchir
>Subject: Re: Ocampa only live 9 years
>Date: 22 Jan 1995 23:27:18 GMT
>In a previous article, wa...@ac.dal.ca () says:
>>In article <3fn1qm$jeg$3...@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, JRDelirious <75114...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>>>
>>> I was not able to watch the pilot uninterrupted, so I might
>>> have missed it, but was it clear that they were talking about
>>> 9 of *our* "years"?
>>
>> Actually I belive in the intrudtion special it isays that one Omcapa
>> (sp?) is 20 earth years.
>I missed that reference. Anyway, I don't know if I would agree. One
>Omcapa leader had stated that they had been underground for "500
>generations." The Vulcan (I don't have the names down yet, sorry) said
>that they had been underground for "a millennium." The way the math
>works out, one generation is 20 years. Now, I don't know specifically
>what is meant by "generation" (beside it being a fairly mediocre movie).
>Is a "generation" equal to a lifespan? Or is it simply a length of time
>wherin new Omcapa will replace the leadership of the old? Discuss
>amongst yourselves... Either way, a nine-year lifespan does not work out.
>-mike.
>--
Er...That must be "new math" :)
Last time I checked, a miilennium was 1000 years. 1000/500 = 2 years.
This works out just fine with a 9 year lifespan. I'm pretty sure, that,
after all the nitpicking, they meant 9 "regular" years. A generation
is usually about the time it takes a species to become mature, more
or less, so it all works out.
Kes looks pretty mature at 1. (This info from the WWW site, not sure if
it's in the show...Then again, the WWW site is from paramount)
Hopefully , we can put this thread to rest. They made it quite obvious
that this character was meant to have a short lifespan, IMHO.
Meanwhile, if you want to debate the Universal Translator, go to the other
branch of this thread.
-Steve
David Christoffersen
about the life span in a little perspective. These people were on the
surface of a planet with no natural water supply. It was also apparent
that they did not treat her very well. It is a definite possiblity that
the 7 years was in reference to the number of years that she would live
given the harsh treatment and work that they made her do. If they treated
her like a slave and beat her, plus being on the surface of that planet, she
may only have lived 7 years.
Poorly treated slaves never live as long as well fed people. Just a thought
David
Timothy Bruening
: In article <3fjg8q...@lanews.la.asu.edu> Paul A. Scowen,
I heard the Ocampan say 500 generations.
--
Timothy S. Bruening (tsbr...@wheel.ucdavis.edu)
Davis Community Network
RODERICK EUGENE NAUGLER
Perhaps the Ocampa do only live 9 years, AS SLAVES. The Ocampa have been
living underground in freedom, with access to protein and nutrient rich
food supliments, and water, for generations. To be captured in a desert
environment, and forced to work, without the water and food they are used
to, they would quickly die of exhaustion and dehydration.
Also note that the Ocampa was not dressed for the desert, the
(what'stherenames) were.
Later
Rod
nau...@ug.cs.dal.ca
Mr. Majestyk
so that, when Voyager creaks into either Season 8, or if it follows TNG,
the first feature film after Season 7, they can finish off with a terribly
emotional episode where Kes either dies or is miraculously saved? I like
what I've seen of Voyager so far, but this is one element that bothers me,
because it is so obviously created merely to accommodate what the show's
creators expect to be the series's own lifespan.
Regards,
Bryan Byun
e-mail: bb...@oz.net
限
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster
than any other invention in human history, with
the possible exception of handguns and tequila."
-- Mitch Radcliffe
Brian Connors
Majestyk) wrote:
> Can there be any doubt that the main reason for this "9 year lifespan" is
> so that, when Voyager creaks into either Season 8, or if it follows TNG,
> the first feature film after Season 7, they can finish off with a terribly
> emotional episode where Kes either dies or is miraculously saved? I like
> what I've seen of Voyager so far, but this is one element that bothers me,
> because it is so obviously created merely to accommodate what the show's
> creators expect to be the series's own lifespan.
Just a guess--I'd say Kes is perhaps two or three years old. Don't forget
also: what was said came out of the mouth of a Kazon (sp?) They may not
know Ocampa culture as well as they think.
After all that, I think Kes will die eventually. It will be interesting to
see what the producers do wrt the Ocampa aging process.
Brian Connors
Boston College
Roots
>From: bb...@oz.net (Mr. Majestyk)
>Subject: Re: OCAMPA's only live for 9 years ...but what is a year?
>Can there be any doubt that the main reason for this "9 year lifespan" is
>so that, when Voyager creaks into either Season 8, or if it follows TNG,
>the first feature film after Season 7, they can finish off with a terribly
>emotional episode where Kes either dies or is miraculously saved? I like
>what I've seen of Voyager so far, but this is one element that bothers me,
>because it is so obviously created merely to accommodate what the show's
>creators expect to be the series's own lifespan.
We've covered the "what is a year" topic fairly thoroughly, but here's another
one. What is a season? A year in our time does not always equal a year, or
season, in a show. Witness the oft quoted "M.A.S.H. lasted longer than the
Korean War" example.
.
Mark Elrod
years.... a different species in a different environment would keep track
of time differently, right? for example if the planet took 10 earth years
to rotate around its sun then she would actually be living to 90 earth
years!! just my interpretation..anyone else?
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\ Mark B. Elrod University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill /
/ ___ ___ ___ ___ ________ ___________________ \
\ / / / / / \ / / / _____/ / ,,,, _____) /
/ / / / / / \ / / / / | |||||| ______) \
\ / / / / / /\ ` / / / | |||||| ______) /
/ / /__/ / / / \ / / /______ \ ```` ______ ) \
\ /________/ /__/ \__/ /_________/ `----/ \--------` /
/ \
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Peter Jones
>i was under the impression that the 9 years was ocampa years, not earth
>years.... a different species in a different environment would keep track
>of time differently, right? for example if the planet took 10 earth years
>to rotate around its sun then she would actually be living to 90 earth
>years!! just my interpretation..anyone else?
But if a planet had that long of a period, it's orbit'd be too big--meaning
that it'd be too far from the local star to support life.
But you're right, an Ocampa year probably is not equal to one Earth year.
Besides that, it was probably translated--either by Tuvok or the Universal
Translator--into Standard Years.
--
Peter C. Jones pet...@camelot.bradley.edu http://rhf.bradley.edu/~petercj/
John Dilday
: Mark Elrod <mel...@email.unc.edu> writes:
: >i was under the impression that the 9 years was ocampa years, not earth
: >years.... a different species in a different environment would keep track
: >of time differently, right? for example if the planet took 10 earth years
: >to rotate around its sun then she would actually be living to 90 earth
: >years!! just my interpretation..anyone else?
: But if a planet had that long of a period, it's orbit'd be too big--meaning
: that it'd be too far from the local star to support life.
: But you're right, an Ocampa year probably is not equal to one Earth year.
: Besides that, it was probably translated--either by Tuvok or the Universal
: Translator--into Standard Years.
A similar example of this, or similar error, is in Rightful Heir. The
man in the cave who created Kahless said it has been 1500 years, and
Gowrom said it had been a millenia. Or just the oppsoite. This woudl mean
a Klingon century was 66.67 years.
- J. Seth Dilday
Vidiot
It has been stated that a year of Star Trek equals a year of our time, so
when they mention things that happen three years ago, you can pull tapes
from three years ago and find the event.
--
System Administrator - Extrel FTMS - Madison WI.
e-mail: br...@ftms.com
phone: (608) 273-8262 fax: (608) 273-8719 voice-mail: (800) 426-6488 ext 6293
Visit - http://www.ftms.com/vidiot/ (Your link to the world of Star Trek)