Haven
Timothy Bruening
Great moments include the petty bickering between Wyatt Miller's parents
and Lwaxana Troi at the prejoining party held to celebrate the upcoming
marriage between Wyatt Miller and Deanna Troi, Wyatt describing the blond
woman he had dreamed of since childhood, Troi and Wyatt leaning that the
dream woman (Arianna) is on the Tarellian ship, and Wyatt's escape to
that ship to join Arianna and help the Tarellians.
Near the middle of the episode, when William Riker, Deanna Troi, and
Wyatt Miller are in the holodeck, Wyatt calls Riker "Bill". In other
episodes, I have heard Riker called "Will".
At the end of the episode, Wyatt Miller beams over to the Tarellian ship
to try to cure the Tarellians. The episode claims he can never beam back
for fear of spreading the Tarellian plague. Why not use the biofilter in
the transporter to cleanse Wyatt of the plague as he is beamed from the
Tarellian ship? Since enough was known of the plague for Wyatt to
believe he could cure it, I believe that the biofilter could have
eliminated the virus responsible for the disease from Wyatt's body, and
perhaps from the bodies of the Tarellians.
Shortly before beaming over to the Tarellian ship, Wyatt visits Lwaxana
Troi (a telepath) and Deanna Troi (an empath). Since Lwaxana could read
Wyatt's thoughts easily, I would have expected Lwaxana to read Wyatt's
intention to transport to the Tarellian ship. I would also have expected
Deanna to sense Wyatt's intentions. Why didn't either one of them try to
stop Wyatt from transporting to the Tarellian ship? Wyatt injects a
sedative into a transporter operator just before beaming to the Tarellian
ship. Why was a hypospray loaded with a sedative left lying around on a
counter where Wyatt could find it? Just before Lwaxana leaves, she
ponders on whom to marry. She says that Picard is too old for her. Yet in
"Manhunt", Lwaxana pursues Picard ardently.
When Wyatt Millar materializes in the Tarellian ship, he is in a chamber
which looks to me looks like a transporter chamber. Also, the government
of Haven seems to believe that the Tarellians have transporters since
they worry about the Tarellians getting within transporter range and
beaming down. If the Tarellians do have transporters, when did they
invent transporters? I believe they would have had a hard time making great
technological advances with their civilization in ruins from the plague,
and they were only at the technological level of late 20th century Earth
(which doesn't have transporters) at the time of the plague. Also,
during the plague, the Tarellians would have concentrated on fighting
the plague and building interstellar capable space ships to try to
escape the plague. They wouldn't have had much to spare for developing
transporters. After the plague, I doubt that individual Tarellian ships
would be able to invent transporters by themselves, so how did the
Tarellians develop transporters?
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Timothy S. Bruening (tsbr...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us)
Davis Community Network
S C Q Askew
: Near the middle of the episode, when William Riker, Deanna Troi, and
: episodes, I have heard Riker called "Will".
Considering that Miller didn't know Riker, he probably judged from his
forst name that his nickname was automatically Bill.
: At the end of the episode, Wyatt Miller beams over to the Tarellian ship
: to try to cure the Tarellians. The episode claims he can never beam back
: for fear of spreading the Tarellian plague. Why not use the biofilter in
: the transporter to cleanse Wyatt of the plague as he is beamed from the
: Tarellian ship? Since enough was known of the plague for Wyatt to
: believe he could cure it, I believe that the biofilter could have
: eliminated the virus responsible for the disease from Wyatt's body, and
: perhaps from the bodies of the Tarellians.
The writers for TNG probably hadn't come up with the concept of a
biofilter yet, since "Haven" was just the 4th episode of TNG ever.
: Shortly before beaming over to the Tarellian ship, Wyatt visits Lwaxana
: Troi (a telepath) and Deanna Troi (an empath). Since Lwaxana could read
: Wyatt's thoughts easily, I would have expected Lwaxana to read Wyatt's
: intention to transport to the Tarellian ship. I would also have expected
: Deanna to sense Wyatt's intentions. Why didn't either one of them try to
: stop Wyatt from transporting to the Tarellian ship? Wyatt injects a
Betazoids no doubt had to make rules concerning relations with others in
close quarters like starships (like the Deltans had to regarding their
sexual attractiveness in ST:TMP). The main rule would no doubt state that
they refrain from scanning the thoughts of others unless they were given
permission or they were on a fact-finding mission (like in "The Drumhead").
: sedative into a transporter operator just before beaming to the Tarellian
: ship. Why was a hypospray loaded with a sedative left lying around on a
: counter where Wyatt could find it? Just before Lwaxana leaves, she
Remember,...we're in the 24th century were everyone is nice & trusting and
don't expect people to knock out transporter operators :).
: ponders on whom to marry. She says that Picard is too old for her. Yet in
: "Manhunt", Lwaxana pursues Picard ardently.
Rule no.1 - women (whether they be from Betazed or Earth) are allowed to
change their minds :).
: When Wyatt Millar materializes in the Tarellian ship, he is in a chamber
: which looks to me looks like a transporter chamber. Also, the government
: of Haven seems to believe that the Tarellians have transporters since
: they worry about the Tarellians getting within transporter range and
: beaming down. If the Tarellians do have transporters, when did they
: invent transporters? I believe they would have had a hard time making great
: technological advances with their civilization in ruins from the plague,
: and they were only at the technological level of late 20th century Earth
: (which doesn't have transporters) at the time of the plague. Also,
: during the plague, the Tarellians would have concentrated on fighting
: the plague and building interstellar capable space ships to try to
: escape the plague. They wouldn't have had much to spare for developing
Well, Earth's "history" is similar. In the late 21st century, Earth gets
onthe ball big time. They move from a 2079 Postatomic Horror to
colonizing Mars in 2103 (a la, VOY:"The 37s") - a mere 24 yrs (of course,
I realize that they DID have warp drive to help out, but...). I agree
that it sounds unreasonable, but it's not impossible (hey, this is after
all television :P).
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S C Q Askew |"I tell the truth, and there are times you're
gt5...@acme.gatech.edu |not supposed to tell the truth."
shawn...@launchpad.unc.edu| --- Charles Barkley
Timo S Saloniemi
>I offer the following comments on the Next Generation episode "Haven":
And I insert mine.
>Near the middle of the episode, when William Riker, Deanna Troi, and
>Wyatt Miller are in the holodeck, Wyatt calls Riker "Bill". In other
>episodes, I have heard Riker called "Will".
Although Capt Jellico would have called him William had he preferred
that. Everybody has the right to call Starfleeters whatever he or she
wants (although I guess Riker would have taken offense if something
like "Billy" had been used).
>At the end of the episode, Wyatt Miller beams over to the Tarellian ship
>to try to cure the Tarellians. The episode claims he can never beam back
>for fear of spreading the Tarellian plague. Why not use the biofilter in
>the transporter to cleanse Wyatt of the plague as he is beamed from the
>Tarellian ship? Since enough was known of the plague for Wyatt to
>believe he could cure it, I believe that the biofilter could have
>eliminated the virus responsible for the disease from Wyatt's body, and
>perhaps from the bodies of the Tarellians.
If there had been enough data to create a biofilter program, the
cure would already be known, by definition! The biofilter program
IS the ultimate cure. It seems logical that a cruder, cheaper
cure based on medicines would be easier to develop than a biofilter
program. After all, you do not have to understand the disease
completely to counter its symptoms, but you have to have VERY
precise knowledge to be able to "filter" it out of one's body.
>Shortly before beaming over to the Tarellian ship, Wyatt visits Lwaxana
>Troi (a telepath) and Deanna Troi (an empath). Since Lwaxana could read
>Wyatt's thoughts easily, I would have expected Lwaxana to read Wyatt's
>intention to transport to the Tarellian ship. I would also have expected
>Deanna to sense Wyatt's intentions. Why didn't either one of them try to
>stop Wyatt from transporting to the Tarellian ship?
It might be that even Lwaxana sometimes closes her mind from background
noise, or shows the decency of not poking her daughter's fiancee's
mind. Or perhaps she didn't care. And Deanna can't read minds beyond
very obvious emotional states.
>Wyatt injects a
>sedative into a transporter operator just before beaming to the Tarellian
>ship. Why was a hypospray loaded with a sedative left lying around on a
>counter where Wyatt could find it?
That is a famous Fleet tradition, in the same class as having a phaser
locker in the kitchen. You never know when these things comme in handy.
>Just before Lwaxana leaves, she
>ponders on whom to marry. She says that Picard is too old for her. Yet in
>"Manhunt", Lwaxana pursues Picard ardently.
"Manhunt" has Lwaxana entering a stage of increased sex urge. Perhaps
love is blind to baldness only when this hormonal rush is on.
>When Wyatt Millar materializes in the Tarellian ship, he is in a chamber
>which looks to me looks like a transporter chamber. Also, the government
>of Haven seems to believe that the Tarellians have transporters since
>they worry about the Tarellians getting within transporter range and
>beaming down. If the Tarellians do have transporters, when did they
>invent transporters?
Perhaps just before wheel? Or between aspirin and MTV? It is refreshing
to have cultures not in the exactly same tech level as the Feds, the
Klingons, the Romulans, the Cardassians, godforbid even most of the Delta
and Gamma Quadrant dwellers...
It may be that the Tarellians paid more attention to computer sciences
than to mechanical engineering, and had the data storage capacity before
inventing a decent interstellar drive. Or perhaps they simply got the
stuff from other races, as an optional extra in a rent-a-warship
package? The Ferengi, who operated in the area since long ago, may
well have sold them interesting things.
>After the plague, I doubt that individual Tarellian ships
>would be able to invent transporters by themselves, so how did the
>Tarellians develop transporters?
Perhaps there is a race called Equalizers zooming across the galaxy
and giving new tech to UFP's enemies so that they can become credible
threats or succcumb to comic relief between episodes whenever the
script so requires.
Timo Saloniemi
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