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Ubiquitous

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Sep 23, 2008, 5:32:44 AM9/23/08
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A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run amok. An
intelligent computer, entrusted with some important task, would conclude that
human beings were imperfect because they do not always act logically. Because
humans are imperfect, the computer would reason, they must be destroyed. (This
seems like a bit of a leap, but maybe it made sense in the '60s.)

Invariably, Captain Kirk and the other protagonists would save mankind by
using illogic to fight the computer. They would feed the computer some paradox
or logically incoherent statement, such as "Everything I say is a lie," which
would overload the computer's logic circuits and destroy it.

Last week John McCain's campaign put out an ad criticizing Barack Obama for
his ties to Franklin Raines, former CEO of Fannie Mae. The ad said that Obama
relies on Raines "for 'advice on mortgage and housing policy.' " The
Washington Post claims that the McCain ad is "a stretch":

So what evidence does the McCain campaign have for the
supposed Obama-Raines connection? It is pretty flimsy,
but it is not made up completely out of whole cloth.
McCain spokesman Brian Rogers points to three items in
the Washington Post in July and August. It turns out
that the three items (including an editorial) all rely
on the same single conversation, between Raines and a
Washington Post business reporter, Anita Huslin, who
wrote a profile of the discredited Fannie Mae boss that
appeared July 16. The profile reported that Raines, who
retired from Fannie Mae four years ago, had "taken calls
from Barack Obama's presidential campaign seeking his
advice on mortgage and housing policy matters."

So the Washington Post is saying you can't believe McCain's ad because it is
based on reporting in . . . the Washington Post. The Washington Post is not a
reliable source of information, according to the Washington Post.

But if the Washington Post is not a reliable source of information, how can we
believe the Washington Post when it says it's not a reliable source of
information? But if we don't believe the Washington Post when it says it's not
a reliable source of information, then we must believe the Washington Post is
a reliable source of information, in which case how can we believe the
Washington Post is not a reliable source of information. But if . . .

You get the picture. Clearly this is part of a sinister plot by the
Obama-coddling mainstream media to induce madness in all Americans who have
the capacity for logical thought, rendering them unable to vote and ensuring
the election is decided by Obama backers who act totally on emotion.

Then again, it may not work. After all, "Star Trek" was only a TV show.


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FDR

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Sep 23, 2008, 9:40:11 AM9/23/08
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And you posted this here because? LMAO

PV

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Sep 23, 2008, 11:40:49 AM9/23/08
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Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> writes:
>A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run amok. An

Shut up, wingnut. *
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peachy ashie passion

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Sep 23, 2008, 4:36:37 PM9/23/08
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Ubiquitous wrote:

> You get the picture. Clearly this is part of a sinister plot by the
> Obama-coddling mainstream media to induce madness in all Americans who have
> the capacity for logical thought, rendering them unable to vote and ensuring
> the election is decided by Obama backers who act totally on emotion.


Heh. Because you think someone using their reason would vote for
McCain-Palin?

Is that because of his superior judgment and demonstrated good sense?

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It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable.
Eric Hoffer, The Passionate State of Mind, 1954
(1902 - 1983)

Anim8rFSK

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Sep 23, 2008, 5:10:42 PM9/23/08
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In article <MMedncVapvWck0TV...@supernews.com>,
pv+u...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:

> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> writes:
> >A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run amok. An
>
> Shut up, wingnut. *

Um

Just given the part you quoted, he was right.

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Ubiquitous

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Sep 24, 2008, 12:50:09 PM9/24/08
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There used to be this TV show that encountered some measure of success named "Star Trek": Perhaps
you've heard of it?

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Ubiquitous

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Sep 24, 2008, 9:23:25 PM9/24/08
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"Alric Knebel" <al...@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> That was embarrassingly stupid, even for you.

Ad hominem noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

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zzbu...@netscape.net

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Sep 25, 2008, 4:17:57 AM9/25/08
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On Sep 23, 5:32 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run amok. An
> intelligent computer, entrusted with some important task, would conclude that
> human beings were imperfect because they do not always act logically. Because
> humans are imperfect, the computer would reason, they must be destroyed. (This
> seems like a bit of a leap, but maybe it made sense in the '60s.)

Well, that's also because the morons in the 1960s, just like the
idiots from
the Washingtoon Post also made the moronic assumptions that
Chess=IQ, HAL=Computers, Von Neumann=Robots, Feynmann=nano,
Vitamin C=DNA, GE=Masers, The Beatles=DVD, Jerry Garcia=GPS,
G.M.=A.I., AT&T=Phones, and IBM=Holograms,

zzbu...@netscape.net

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Sep 25, 2008, 5:55:09 AM9/25/08
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On Sep 25, 4:17 am, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
wrote:

> On Sep 23, 5:32 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run amok. An
> > intelligent computer, entrusted with some important task, would conclude that
> > human beings were imperfect because they do not always act logically. Because
> > humans are imperfect, the computer would reason, they must be destroyed. (This
> > seems like a bit of a leap, but maybe it made sense in the '60s.)
>
>    Well, that's also because the morons in the 1960s, just like the
> idiots from
>    the Washingtoon Post also made the moronic assumptions that
>    Chess=IQ,  HAL=Computers, Von Neumann=Robots, Feynmann=nano,
>    Vitamin C=DNA, GE=Masers, The Beatles=DVD, Jerry Garcia=GPS,
>    G.M.=A.I., AT&T=Phones, and IBM=Holograms,

Or, better to be said as, there is simply no way to explain
these things
to Los Angelos idiots, since it's known throughtout the world,
that the only thing they know about any of them is Burbank
idiots.

> > for them, it's failing.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ubiquitous

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Sep 23, 2008, 11:41:00 AM9/23/08
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pv+u...@pobox.com wrote:
>Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> writes:

>>A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run
>>amok. An
>
>Shut up, wingnut. *

Ad hominem noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

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PV

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Sep 27, 2008, 2:17:21 PM9/27/08
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web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) writes:
>>Shut up, wingnut. *
>
>Ad hominem noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

Oh my god, I've been noted! What'll I do? GET IT OFF GET IT OFF GET IT OFF.

I'm on some wingnut's lits o hait. I think I'll survive. *

Beowulf Bolt

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Sep 29, 2008, 1:19:01 PM9/29/08
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Ubiquitous wrote:
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> Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

Sez the guy who started this moronic OT political argument. Smooth
move, ex-lax.

Biff


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Ubiquitous

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Mar 1, 2009, 11:42:24 AM3/1/09
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zzbu...@netscape.net wrote:
>On Sep 23, 5:32 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

>> A recurring theme in the old "Star Trek" series was the machine run
>> amok. An intelligent computer, entrusted with some important task,
>> would conclude that human beings were imperfect because they do not
>> always act logically. Because humans are imperfect, the computer would
>> reason, they must be destroyed. (This seems like a bit of a leap, but
>> maybe it made sense in the '60s.)
>
> Well, that's also because the morons in the 1960s, just like the
> idiots from the Washingtoon Post also made the moronic assumptions
> that Chess=IQ, HAL=Computers, Von Neumann=Robots, Feynmann=nano,
> Vitamin C=DNA, GE=Masers, The Beatles=DVD, Jerry Garcia=GPS,
> G.M.=A.I., AT&T=Phones, and IBM=Holograms,

Can I buy some pot from you?

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