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S.O.S.: Time's Arrow II

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Joseph W Reiss

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Sep 24, 1992, 10:12:13 AM9/24/92
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Hello and welcome to the first installment of the Spoiler-Free Opinion
Summary. This service is for those people who do not see the show
until later in the week, who don't want to be spoiled, but who do want
some idea of the quality of the show.

Without further ado, here are the numbers...

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Jeff Gilles A- ( 9.3) * * * * * * * * * >
Terry [NLN] 7 ( 7.0) * * * * * * *
==================================================================
Average ( 8.2) * * * * * * * * ,
------------------------------------------------------------------

Letter grades are converted to 10-scale using the following method:

A+ 10.0 B+ 8.7 C+ 7.7 D+ 6.7
A 9.5 B 8.5 C 7.5 D 6.5 F 1.0
A- 9.3 B- 8.3 C- 7.3 D- 6.3

The symbols used for partial points are as follows:

0.1 - 0.2 `,'
0.3 - 0.4 `>'
0.5 - 0.6 `Y'
0.7 - 0.8 `X'
0.9 - 1.0 `*'

Well, that's it for the first week. I hope that next week will yield
a better turn out. But I guess all things must start small. See you
around netland!

Joe
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Atsushi Kanamori

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Sep 24, 1992, 10:44:10 AM9/24/92
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In article <920924141...@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Joseph W Reiss <jre...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>Hello and welcome to the first installment of the Spoiler-Free Opinion
>Summary. This service is for those people who do not see the show
>until later in the week, who don't want to be spoiled, but who do want
>some idea of the quality of the show.
>
>Letter grades are converted to 10-scale using the following method:
>
>A+ 10.0 B+ 8.7 C+ 7.7 D+ 6.7
>A 9.5 B 8.5 C 7.5 D 6.5 F 1.0
>A- 9.3 B- 8.3 C- 7.3 D- 6.3
>

Don't know about you, but when I give an episode a "D", I think
of it as a 3 or 4, not a 6.5.


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Kanamori's Episode Ratings: (last episode rated: "Time's Arrow")
"This season began with a turkey. I'm simply trying to see
that it doesn't end that way." -- fictitious Paramount writer


Terry Cooper

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Sep 24, 1992, 1:20:20 PM9/24/92
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[...stuff deleted]

>>
>>Letter grades are converted to 10-scale using the following method:
>>
>>A+ 10.0 B+ 8.7 C+ 7.7 D+ 6.7
>>A 9.5 B 8.5 C 7.5 D 6.5 F 1.0
>>A- 9.3 B- 8.3 C- 7.3 D- 6.3
>>
>
> Don't know about you, but when I give an episode a "D", I think
> of it as a 3 or 4, not a 6.5.
>
[...sig deleted]

NO! NO! NO! A thousand times NO!

The grading scale is quite reasonable. If you turned in a paper
in an English (or History or ...) course (or a performance in a
drama class), would you expect to get something higher than a D
if you made 65? (6.5 is to 10 what 65 is to 100.)

It seems more reasonable to me to pattern the grading scale this
way instead of the way you're doing. I would guess that you would
make A in the range 8 - 10, B -> 60 - 80, C -> 40 - 60, etc. I
guess that's ok, but I like the other method better.

...terry

Joseph W Reiss

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Sep 24, 1992, 9:14:44 PM9/24/92
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Well, I guess my first posting must have drawn out the closet
reviewers. Now I've got a couple more ratings to add to the chart.
So, here is the newly updated S.O.S...

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Jeff Gilles A- ( 9.3) * * * * * * * * * >

Larry Snyder 7/10 ( 7.0) * * * * * * *
Tim Witort 83/100 ( 8.3) * * * * * * * * >
Terry [NLN] 7/10 ( 7.0) * * * * * * *
==================================================================
Average ( 7.9) * * * * * * * *
------------------------------------------------------------------

Letter grades are converted to 10-scale using the following method:

A+ 10.0 B+ 8.7 C+ 7.7 D+ 6.7
A 9.5 B 8.5 C 7.5 D 6.5 F 1.0
A- 9.3 B- 8.3 C- 7.3 D- 6.3

The symbols used for partial points are as follows:

0.1 - 0.2 `,'
0.3 - 0.4 `>'
0.5 - 0.6 `Y'
0.7 - 0.8 `X'
0.9 - 1.0 `*'

Okay, the polls for TAII are now closed. Starting now, I'm excepting
ratings for the second episode of the season. Please contribute. It
gives me such the warm fuzzy feeling :-)

Joe
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Atsushi Kanamori

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Sep 25, 1992, 8:11:15 AM9/25/92
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In article <1992Sep24....@altair.selu.edu> scsd...@altair.selu.edu (Terry Cooper) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.1...@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, kana...@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>> In article <920924141...@magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Joseph W Reiss <jre...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
> [...stuff deleted]
>>>
>>>Letter grades are converted to 10-scale using the following method:
>>>
>>>A+ 10.0 B+ 8.7 C+ 7.7 D+ 6.7
>>>A 9.5 B 8.5 C 7.5 D 6.5 F 1.0
>>>A- 9.3 B- 8.3 C- 7.3 D- 6.3
>>>
>>
>> Don't know about you, but when I give an episode a "D", I think
>> of it as a 3 or 4, not a 6.5.
>>
> [...sig deleted]
>
>NO! NO! NO! A thousand times NO!
>
>The grading scale is quite reasonable. If you turned in a paper
>in an English (or History or ...) course (or a performance in a
>drama class), would you expect to get something higher than a D
>if you made 65? (6.5 is to 10 what 65 is to 100.)

Depends on the difficulty of the assignment, the grading standards involved,
and the relative capabilities of the students. I've had classes and
exams where 65% was considered wonderful. Personally, I've rarely seen the
arbitrary 90=A scale used anywhere beyond high school.

(To put it another way, if that many students can get 90% of an assignment,
that assignment probably isn't doing enough to separate the wheat from
the chaff. IMO).


>It seems more reasonable to me to pattern the grading scale this
>way instead of the way you're doing.

My problem with your system is that more than half the grading scale
(the 10%-60% range) in unexpressable with letters, plus the wide disparity
between the "D" and "F" (I do not, for example, consider "Ethics" to
be six and half times better than "New Ground".) Sorts of feels like
Orwell's "NewSpeak" -- I can't say that an episode fulfilled only
30% of the requirements of a good episode without lumping them all into
an "F" category.

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