Foo-till vs. Few-tile...
F Poulin
This concerns a part of ST:FC shown in one of the commercials, so I don't
think it can be considered a spoiler (Marketing = Borg)...
Okay, maybe I'm being really anal, but...
...we hear Data say the immortal line, "Resistance is futile" - but with
the accent on the first syllable rather than the second...
"Resistance is [foo-till]"
"Resistance is [few-tile]"
...am I alone in thinking this sounds just plain silly...?
________
gkt.
Perrin
In article <5799p7$b...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
F Poulin <fpo...@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote:
>This concerns a part of ST:FC shown in one of the commercials, so I don't
>think it can be considered a spoiler (Marketing = Borg)...
>the accent on the first syllable rather than the second...
>...am I alone in thinking this sounds just plain silly...?
Personally, I do say it "few-till" (not foo-till), so that doesn't
bother me much, although I did notice the difference. It's probably a
matter of accent--Picard (or Stewart) says it one way while Data (or
Spiner) says it another. One might expect all assimilees to speak in
the same way, but then again why bother worrying about that, if you're
the Borg?
Perhaps the difference in pronunciation makes the situation more
spooky--the assimilee is not simply a loudspeaker; he is forming and
speaking these words himself.
A dios.
/
:@-) Scott
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Robert L Wilson
F Poulin (fpo...@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote:
: This concerns a part of ST:FC shown in one of the commercials, so I don't
: think it can be considered a spoiler (Marketing = Borg)...
: Okay, maybe I'm being really anal, but...
: ...we hear Data say the immortal line, "Resistance is futile" - but with
: the accent on the first syllable rather than the second...
: "Resistance is [foo-till]"
: "Resistance is [few-tile]"
: ...am I alone in thinking this sounds just plain silly...?
Just to knit-pick, the pronuciation you have indicated is incorrect.
Resistance is few-tile(pronounce "tile" as you would like something like
tile on a floor). Data says fewtil(few as in curfew and til as in until)
Dean and Charmaine Tiegs
fpo...@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (F Poulin) wrote:
>"Resistance is [foo-till]"
>"Resistance is [few-tile]"
>...am I alone in thinking this sounds just plain silly...?
Yes, the American pronuniciations "fyoo-tl," "mo-bl," "miss-l," and so
on, all sound silly. The proper Commonwealth pronunciations
"fyoo-tile," "mo-bile," "miss-ile" are much easier on the ears. And
don't get me started on Starfleet loo-ten-nts, who should all be
lef-ten-nts.
DAT
Dean Tiegs, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. dct...@planet.eon.net
James Southall
> >This concerns a part of ST:FC shown in one of the commercials, so I don't
> >think it can be considered a spoiler (Marketing = Borg)...
> >the accent on the first syllable rather than the second...
> >...am I alone in thinking this sounds just plain silly...?
>
> bother me much, although I did notice the difference. It's probably a
> matter of accent--Picard (or Stewart) says it one way while Data (or
> Spiner) says it another. One might expect all assimilees to speak in
> the same way, but then again why bother worrying about that, if you're
> the Borg?
Almost certainly because Patrick Stewart still speaks with English
pronunciations (I read once that he tried to sneak as many of these into
the series as he could, and I often heard "ROOT" instead of "ROWT" and
"SHEDULE" instead of "SKEDULE").
> Perhaps the difference in pronunciation makes the situation more
> spooky--the assimilee is not simply a loudspeaker; he is forming and
> speaking these words himself.
Another interesting thought: do Klingon assimilees (love that word!)
speak in Klingon? (Well, as it's Star Trek, I don't suppose they do)
James
Daniel Fessak
On 24 Nov 1996, F Poulin wrote:
> This concerns a part of ST:FC shown in one of the commercials, so I don't
> think it can be considered a spoiler (Marketing = Borg)...
>
> Okay, maybe I'm being really anal, but...
>
>
> ...we hear Data say the immortal line, "Resistance is futile" - but with
> the accent on the first syllable rather than the second...
>
>
> "Resistance is [foo-till]"
>
> "Resistance is [few-tile]"
>
>
> ...am I alone in thinking this sounds just plain silly...?
>
>
> ________
> gkt.
>
>
>
People like you probably wonder all the time why trekkies are called
nerds, don't you? Can't you possibly think of something better to think
about then how Data say's "futile" and how you think it messes the movie up?
Grace Gooding
Daniel Fessak wrote:
>
> On 24 Nov 1996, F Poulin wrote:
>
> > This concerns a part of ST:FC shown in one of the commercials, so I don't
> > think it can be considered a spoiler (Marketing = Borg)...
> >
> > Okay, maybe I'm being really anal, but...
> >
> >
> > ...we hear Data say the immortal line, "Resistance is futile" - but with
> > the accent on the first syllable rather than the second...
> >
> >
> > "Resistance is [foo-till]"
> >
> > "Resistance is [few-tile]"
> >
> People like you probably wonder all the time why trekkies are called
> nerds, don't you? Can't you possibly think of something better to think
> about then how Data say's "futile" and how you think it messes the movie up?
someone-in an earlier post, sorry, I don't remember who--said this was a
tip-off that Data was not assimilated, because all the other Borg say it
the other way. I liked that explaination.
-grace
Timothy Patrick Green
Grace Gooding wrote:
I have always thought that "few-TILE" is actually the British
pronunciation of the word "Futile," which would explain why Patrick
Stewart says it that way. The way that Data says it in the movie
(sounding similar to "feudal") is actually the correct American
pronunciation. [Think of similar words such as "mobile" or "sterile" -
in America we say "MO-bul" and "STAIR-ul" but in Britain they say
"mo-BILE" and "ster-ILE"]. The creators probably just got confused by
having the Borg use the British pronunciation--or else they were making
some in-joke about the "British Invasion" (Ha ha).