[DS9] Lynch's Spoiler Review: "His Way"
Timothy W. Lynch
WARNING: Spoilers for DS9's "His Way" lurk below.
In brief: Five words or less: "Plays like bad fanfic."
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Written by: Ira Steven Behr & Hans Beimler
Directed by: Allan Kroeker
Brief summary: Odo consults a holographic lounge singer for
romance tips.
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Somehow, somewhere, there's someone who thought "His Way" was
the best DS9 episode ever made, a show which epitomized the sort of
characterization to which every dramatic television series should
aspire.
That someone is not me.
Lest people jump to conclusions, however, I didn't despise "His
Way" because I'm opposed to the Odo/Kira pairing. I'm not
overjoyed by the relationship, but "Children of Time" last season
convinced me quite well that there are good ways to handle it. As
such, the simple fact that this was an Odo/Kira show didn't turn me
off.
The episode itself, however, did -- and did in such a way as to
completely undo any and all goodwill generated by "Children of
Time". If what promise there was in the Odo/Kira relationship is to be
used in episodes like this, forget it. Put another way: if the only way
to advance the Odo/Kira pairing was to pull some sort of contrived
hogwash like "His Way", then that should be sending up a very large
warning signal that the relationship is a very, very bad idea.
Plot-wise, the story of "third party tricks two people into confessing
their feelings" is an old one -- and like most old stories, it sometimes
works well and sometimes doesn't. The Trek twist on the tale was to
make the third party a hologram who knows everything about women
and relationships, namely Vic Fontaine the lounge singer. Bad idea,
folks.
Firstly, Vic is entirely too aware and too capable. A few insights into
the human condition are all well and good, but the fact that he can read
anyone, of any culture and any species, and near-instantly know what
sort of feelings they're hiding, smacks of plot convenience more than
anything else. Perhaps more importantly, Vic can apparently change
himself from one program to another, make phone calls outside the
holodeck, and change the parameters of the program he's in (e.g. his
creation of "Lola" the Kira-lookalike). This is not a simple holodeck
program: this is bordering on sentience, which is either dangerous to
include in a simple entertainment program or veering dangerously
close to slavery. (Let's not forget that the last hologram which
became sentient on its own tried to take over the Enterprise in the
TNG era -- twice.)
What's worse, keeping so much of the episode in Vic's program
wasn't so much a plot as it was a convenient excuse to let guest stars
(and some regulars) use that Ultra-Hep '60s Slang, Baby. In a word:
ack. I really felt no overwhelming need to hear Odo say "Cool!" or
especially Bashir say "Catch ya later, baby." Plus, of course, we got
to hear everyone else get clueless in the face of topical references (Odo
to Victor Borge, O'Brien to the term "square", etc.), which was
equally mind-numbing. Vic's patter itself was at least true to his
persona, but there's nothing about the '60s Rat Pack persona that I
find entertaining in the least. Those who are big Dean Martin/Frank
Sinatra fans may feel differently.
On to the topic of characterization, however. I've seen Kira happy,
I've seen Kira sobbing, I've seen Kira boiling and raging, I've seen
Kira passionate about Bajor, I've seen Kira calmly accepting her own
death. I've never before seen Kira simpering like a fifteen-year-old
girl who bats her eyes and acts dumb because she thinks it's what the
boys all want -- and I never want to again. There were aspects of the
show that Visitor and Auberjonois managed to carry by sheer force of
will, but the dinner scene was not one of them.
Odo was equally out of character. Consulting one of Bashir's toys for
advice is bad enough, but even before that we find him baring his
deepest feelings to *Quark*, of all people -- and apparently without
any prompting. The two may have some sort of slight understanding
that they don't detest each other as much as they always pretend, but
Odo is not going to unload his personal baggage on Quark, or very
likely on anyone else.
As the episode meanders on, we find Odo having great fun receiving
adulation from a holodeck audience (for something he himself isn't
even doing; now *that's* a way to build a relationship), going for a
night on the town with a showgirl, and eventually spouting off
dialogue like "French is ze language of love," which is so abominably
cliched that it should make even Will Riker back off and say, "sorry, I
have a headache."
The only slight bright spot, as I alluded to earlier, is that Visitor and
Auberjonois *do* at times have the chemistry to let the scene come off
better than the script should allow. In particular, although the dinner
leading up to their dance is awful, the dance itself is reasonable -- and
the subsequent bickering-to-a-clinch scene, while no different from
similar scenes in "Cheers", "Moonlighting", or about a zillion other
shows, managed to exude a goofy charm for a millisecond or two.
(Dax's smile helped, too.) On the whole, though, the show certainly
did not make up for its plot problems with stellar character work.
There's also the question of how exactly everyone can feel so free to
run around the holodeck for hours on end when there's a monstrous
war going on. In "In the Pale Moonlight", just realizing that no
personal friends that week was a victory: now everyone's decided to
check out Bashir's latest kitschy craze? No, thank you. (I'm not
saying everyone should necessarily be tortured; since Sisko's the only
one who knows the truth of what brought the Romulans into the fold,
I think *he* should be, but the rest can wait.) Even a mention of a lull
in the war would have helped slightly.
Lastly, the show was incredibly thin and slow-paced. How little
material did they have to work with? Enough that we had not one, not
two, but *four* different musical interludes: the interminably long
number where Odo learns how to deceive an audience, Nana Visitor's
"Fever" (which, admittedly, was cute), the "I've Got You Under My
Skin" number during the Odo/Kira dance, and "Come Fly With Me" at
the end. (That's not counting Vic's opening number, or the mini-duet
between Odo and Sisko.) Even leaving aside for a moment that it's a
style of music I don't particularly care for, the sheer weight of
padding was nearly enough by itself to sink the show.
Shorter thoughts:
-- It's been over a year since Kira and Shakaar broke up? Not so far
as I can tell; it was a fresh enough event that it surprised everyone in
"Children of Time", which was less than a season ago.
-- The reference to getting Kira's holo-image was a cute one, but I
thought much of the point of "Our Man Bashir" was that those were
only temporarily stored images, not permanently saved ones.
-- An interesting credit appeared at the end of the show that we don't
usually see: one of the show's choreographer. Given the show,
that's understandable, but the name of said choreographer was
interesting: Laura Feder Behr. I don't know for certain if Ms. Behr is
related to Ira Steven Behr, but it's certainly likely. (If so, I suppose
the latter can at least comfort himself that this show got a relative a
week's work.)
There's probably more that could be said, but I don't think there's
much of a need. If the sole motivating force of your life is to see Odo
and Kira together whatever the cost, then "His Way" might manage to
send lovely shivery feelings all up and down your spine. If not, then
avoid this episode unless you're a completist's completist. Believe
me, the fact that Odo and Kira are now a couple should be enough to
let you understand future shows; you don't need to see how it
happened.
Wrapping up:
Writing: None of consequence. Okay, Quark's line about Odo not
being lovable was cute.
Directing: Some minor pluses here and there, but generally nothing to
speak of.
Acting: Most everyone was game, but it's not enough to save a show.
OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year. With only five
left, it had better stay that way.
NEXT WEEK:
Sisko, Winn, the Prophets, and Jake's life. Hmm...
Tim Lynch (Harvard-Westlake School, Science Dept.)
tly...@alumni.caltech.edu <*>
"You're not exactly the most lovable person in the galaxy. You're not
even the most lovable person in the sector, or on the station -- or even
in this room."
-- Quark
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John David Watker
In article <6httq3$o...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, tly...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote:
>WARNING: Spoilers for DS9's "His Way" lurk below.
>
>Firstly, Vic is entirely too aware and too capable. A few insights into
>the human condition are all well and good, but the fact that he can read
>anyone, of any culture and any species, and near-instantly know what
>sort of feelings they're hiding, smacks of plot convenience more than
>anything else. Perhaps more importantly, Vic can apparently change
>himself from one program to another, make phone calls outside the
>holodeck, and change the parameters of the program he's in (e.g. his
>creation of "Lola" the Kira-lookalike). This is not a simple holodeck
>program: this is bordering on sentience, which is either dangerous to
>include in a simple entertainment program or veering dangerously
>close to slavery. (Let's not forget that the last hologram which
>became sentient on its own tried to take over the Enterprise in the
>TNG era -- twice.)
I had the the same thought at first, but than rememberd that the
Doctor on Voyager is pretty much the same thing. This opens up two
possibilities:
1) Bashir's friend Felix is acting irresponsibly with holograms (which you
said)
or
2) Starfleet has found a way to give a hologram sentience (or something close
enough to it), but be able to program the hologram with parameters that would
prevent it from being able to grow disenchanted with a holograms life, or from
doing something about it. (As Mr. Bester might say, implant an "Asimov" in
it)
This of course opens the door towards slavery, and I for one hope that
they do in some way deal with it. I'm not holding my breath, but it would be
nice.
>In particular, although the dinner leading up to their dance is awful, the
>dance itself is reasonable -- and the subsequent bickering-to-a-clinch scene,
>while no different from similar scenes in "Cheers", "Moonlighting", or about
>a zillion other shows, managed to exude a goofy charm for a millisecond or
>two.
Yup, Sam and Diane was the first thing I thought of. :-)
>Lastly, the show was incredibly thin and slow-paced. How little
>material did they have to work with? Enough that we had not one, not
>two, but *four* different musical interludes: the interminably long
>number where Odo learns how to deceive an audience, Nana Visitor's
>"Fever" (which, admittedly, was cute), the "I've Got You Under My
>Skin" number during the Odo/Kira dance, and "Come Fly With Me" at
>the end. (That's not counting Vic's opening number, or the mini-duet
>between Odo and Sisko.) Even leaving aside for a moment that it's a
>style of music I don't particularly care for, the sheer weight of
>padding was nearly enough by itself to sink the show.
>
>Shorter thoughts:
>
>-- It's been over a year since Kira and Shakaar broke up? Not so far
>as I can tell; it was a fresh enough event that it surprised everyone in
>"Children of Time", which was less than a season ago.
It's been 24 episodes since "Children of Time," and three months of
2374 was off screen. I think they can safely call it over a year.
>-- The reference to getting Kira's holo-image was a cute one, but I
>thought much of the point of "Our Man Bashir" was that those were
>only temporarily stored images, not permanently saved ones.
Something tells me that Bashir reprogramed it with Kira's image, the
little devil! :-)
>OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year. With only five
>left, it had better stay that way.
I'd have to give this episode a better rating. Maybe it was the
music, or Vic (who I really liked), or the fact that they FINALLY started the
damned Odo/Kira relationship, but I actually enjoyed this episode. Different
strokes I guess...
--
John David Watker
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Luvhomescl
I was surprised, because I thought this ep would be awful. But I liked it a
lot.
And I don't care for O/K.
But I have to disagree with you Tim (and I often agree with you... just not
here). This was not a 10, but I'd give it a fun loving 7.
-m
JKFolkes
Tim Lynch wrote:
<<OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year.>>
Tim, there's a question I'm dying to ask you:
"Have you ever been diagnosed as anhedonic?"
<< With only five left, it had better stay that way.>>
There are *six* episodes left in this season. (Why does this mistake seem the
perfect conclusion to this review?)
Jerry
"If certain critics were as clear-sighted as they are malignant, how great
would be the benefit to be derived from their writings!" --Percy Shelley
Enoch Forrester
On 26 Apr 1998, JKFolkes wrote:
> Tim Lynch wrote:
> <<OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year.>>
>
> Tim, there's a question I'm dying to ask you:
> "Have you ever been diagnosed as anhedonic?"
Hey, glad to meet one of my fellow Teeming Millions, JKF.
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Laurinda Chamberlin
tly...@alumnae.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>WARNING: Spoilers for DS9's "His Way" lurk below.
>
>In brief: Five words or less: "Plays like bad fanfic."
I think you nailed it.
>[...]Somehow, somewhere, there's someone who thought "His Way" was
>the best DS9 episode ever made, a show which epitomized the sort of
>characterization to which every dramatic television series should
>aspire.
>That someone is not me.
Or me. I've already vented my spleen about this episode on another thread,
so I won't rehash it, but suffice to say, I disliked this episode as much
as you did for much the same reasons. In reading the comments about this
show, it seems as if half of us must have seen one version of "His Way",
and half of us a totally different one, as the reactions are that opposed.
>[...]The episode itself, however, did -- and did in such a way as to
>completely undo any and all goodwill generated by "Children of
>Time". If what promise there was in the Odo/Kira relationship is to be
>used in episodes like this, forget it. Put another way: if the only way
>to advance the Odo/Kira pairing was to pull some sort of contrived
>hogwash like "His Way", then that should be sending up a very large
>warning signal that the relationship is a very, very bad idea. [...]
Someone please explain to me why the writers of DS9 can be so good in
portraying complex, rich friendships, and yet be so bleeding awful when
it comes to romance. On the friendship side, we have the wonderful Sisko-Dax,
O'Brien-Bashir, Bashir-Garak, Kira-Dax, and (formerly) Kira-Odo. On the
romance side, we have Sisko-Yates, which has potential but never gets
enough screen time, O'Brien-Keiko, which works except that she's almost
never there, Bashir-anybody (heaven help us), Rom-Leeta (ugh), Garak-Ziyal,
which never got off the ground before she was killed, the lackluster
Worf-Dax, and now the contrived Kira-Odo.
>The only slight bright spot, as I alluded to earlier, is that Visitor and
>Auberjonois *do* at times have the chemistry to let the scene come off
>better than the script should allow. In particular, although the dinner
>leading up to their dance is awful, the dance itself is reasonable -- and
>the subsequent bickering-to-a-clinch scene, while no different from
>similar scenes in "Cheers", "Moonlighting", or about a zillion other
>shows, managed to exude a goofy charm for a millisecond or two.
>(Dax's smile helped, too.) On the whole, though, the show certainly
>did not make up for its plot problems with stellar character work. [...]
Instead of the sophomoric scene on the Promenade that we did get, I wish
we could have had a quieter coming together that was more Odo-ish and
Kira-ish. The fact that they're in the middle of a deadly war and could
run out of time at any moment could have been quite a motivator for Odo
to overcome his bashfulness, and it wouldn't have required the writers
to act as if this episode happened in a different dimension than the
last two.
--
Laurinda She walked by herself, and
all places were alike to her.
JKFolkes
Enoch wrote:
> Tim Lynch wrote:
> <<OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year.>>
>
> Tim, there's a question I'm dying to ask you:
> "Have you ever been diagnosed as anhedonic?"
>Hey, glad to meet one of my fellow Teeming Millions, JKF.
Nice to meet you too Enoch! What say we start a new thread--"Tim Lynch:
harmless net critic or soulless minion of orthodoxy?"
Jerry
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Timothy W. Lynch (tly...@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote:
TWL>-- The reference to getting Kira's holo-image was a cute one, but I
TWL>thought much of the point of "Our Man Bashir" was that those were
TWL>only temporarily stored images, not permanently saved ones.
I thought of that too, and came to a simple conclusion -- Vic lied.
He obviously has a lot more access to DS9's systems than he's supposed to
have (Transferring to Kira's holosuite? Calling Odo's office? He
shouldn't be able to do these things, the characters KNOW he shouldn't be
able to do these things, but he manages to glibly deflect their questions)
and is actually quite a danger to the station if he gets out of control.
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Timothy W. Lynch
><<OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year.>>
>Tim, there's a question I'm dying to ask you:
>"Have you ever been diagnosed as anhedonic?"
Nope, and based on my friends, my students and my wife (in
alphabetical order) I'm not likely to be either. Thanks for the
concern, however. :-)
><< With only five left, it had better stay that way.>>
>There are *six* episodes left in this season.
Guilty as charged; I miscounted. Sorry 'bout that.
Tim Lynch
Nana Yaw Ofori
In article <6i1u72$ic2$1...@winter.news.erols.com>, b...@boog.orgASM (Arthur
Levesque) wrote:
> Timothy W. Lynch (tly...@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote:
> TWL>-- The reference to getting Kira's holo-image was a cute one, but I
> TWL>thought much of the point of "Our Man Bashir" was that those were
> TWL>only temporarily stored images, not permanently saved ones.
>
> I thought of that too, and came to a simple conclusion -- Vic lied.
> He obviously has a lot more access to DS9's systems than he's supposed to
> have (Transferring to Kira's holosuite? Calling Odo's office? He
> shouldn't be able to do these things, the characters KNOW he shouldn't be
> able to do these things, but he manages to glibly deflect their questions)
> and is actually quite a danger to the station if he gets out of control.
Well, maybe he's the long-forgotten "Pup," finally grown up enough to
figure out that it's not getting any /real/ attention anymore, and
deciding to gain that attention more subtly.
Naaaaah.
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Sharon T. Wise
In article <199804270114...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, jkfo...@aol.com
says...
>
>>> Tim Lynch wrote:
>> <<OVERALL: 1.5, the worst DS9 episode of the year.>>
>>
>> Tim, there's a question I'm dying to ask you:
>> "Have you ever been diagnosed as anhedonic?"
>Enoch wrote:
>>Hey, glad to meet one of my fellow Teeming Millions, JKF.
>
>Nice to meet you too Enoch! What say we start a new thread--"Tim Lynch:
>harmless net critic or soulless minion of orthodoxy?"
>
>Jerry
-----------------
Well, you can start that thread, but a number of people, myself included,
will disagree with you. I appreciate Tim Lynch for his thoughtful, well-
articulated reviews; even when I don't agree with him, I find something
interesting, a new way to consider the show.
You're entitled to your opinions--if you had any. The above posts
contain nothing but unprovoked insults. If you anything intellegent
or civil to say, by all means let's hear it.
S.T. Wise
Nelson Lu
In article <6i25ev$9...@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
Timothy W. Lynch <tly...@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>jkfo...@aol.com (JKFolkes) writes:
>>There are *six* episodes left in this season.
>
>Guilty as charged; I miscounted. Sorry 'bout that.
No, there are *five* episodes! <Activates pain device>
Enoch Forrester
On 27 Apr 1998, Sharon T. Wise wrote:
> In article <blahblah> jkfo...@aol.com says...
Oh. Er. Here's how the thread went. Roughly.
> >> Tim, there's a question I'm dying to ask you:
> >> "Have you ever been diagnosed as anhedonic?"
> >Enoch wrote:
> >>Hey, glad to meet one of my fellow Teeming Millions, JKF.
> >jkfo...@aol.com:
> >Nice to meet you too Enoch! What say we start a new thread--"Tim Lynch:
> >harmless net critic or soulless minion of orthodoxy?"
> >Jerry
> Well, you can start that thread, but a number of people, myself included,
> will disagree with you. I appreciate Tim Lynch for his thoughtful, well-
> articulated reviews; even when I don't agree with him, I find something
> interesting, a new way to consider the show.
I suppose I should point out I was merely applauding the use of the term
"anhedonic." I don't agree, however, that the term applies to Tim Lynch.
Great guy. I've downloaded his Second Season "farewell to Voyager" review
to keep for my own personal enjoyment, and I love his takes on DS9. It's
just nice to see a fellow reader of The Straight Dope now and then,
y'know.
> You're entitled to your opinions--if you had any. The above posts
> contain nothing but unprovoked insults. If you anything intellegent
> or civil to say, by all means let's hear it.
> S.T. Wise
Er. Well, maybe I would have given "His Way" a 4 at the lowest. There.
That's civil enough.
So to sum up: Tim Lynch good. Insulting Tim Lynch bad. Use of term
"anhedonic" good. Reading Cecil Adams' The Straight Dope good.
Luvhomescl
>You're entitled to your opinions--if you had any. The above posts
>contain nothing but unprovoked insults. If you anything intellegent
>or civil to say, by all means let's hear it.
Oh, come on. The post was humorous, and used a great DS9 reference.
Lighten up.
:-)
(besides, anyone who quotes Dukat is okay;-) )
-m
Enoch Forrester
Oh, bugger. I got "anhedonic" wrong. I was thinking about "ageusiatic,"
which would have been a clever, sidelong way of calling someone
"tasteless." Bloody hell, forget my own head next... I think I'll go lie
down for a while...
JKFolkes
<<You're entitled to your opinions--if you had any. The above posts contain
nothing but unprovoked insults. If you anything intellegent or civil to say,
by all means let's hear it.>>
Well, I do have one opinion, although I must admit I got the exact wording from
Bette Midler:
"If they can't take a joke, $@#% them!"
Of course, Bette said "fuck" instead of $@#%.
Jerry
Laurinda Chamberlin
rco...@best.com (Ron Courtright) writes:
>On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 19:09:39 GMT, tcw...@netcom.com (Laurinda
>Chamberlin) wrote:
>[snip]
>> Instead of the sophomoric scene on the Promenade that we did get, I wish
>> we could have had a quieter coming together that was more Odo-ish and
>> Kira-ish...
>I do not believe that the scene was sophomoric in context with the
>episode. I viewed 'His Way' as an homage to the 1960s Rat Pack
>movies. Taken in this context, the structure and implementation was
>right. Those movies usually featured a climactic clinch scene between
>the male and female leads. [...]
Right, but Odo and Kira aren't the usual bubbly, forgettable cardboard
characters that populate those movies. Over the past 5+ years they've
been built up to be much more than that, and they deserved better than
they got here.
DB
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Sharon T. Wise
In article <199804280035...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jkfo...@aol.com
says...
I apologize. I was in a rotten mood on Monday
and missed the joke.
S.T. Wise
Sharon T. Wise
<snipping>
Enoch Forester said:
>Er. Well, maybe I would have given "His Way" a 4 at the lowest. There.
>That's civil enough.
----> very civil.
>So to sum up: Tim Lynch good. Insulting Tim Lynch bad. Use of term
>"anhedonic" good. Reading Cecil Adams' The Straight Dope good.
---> Ha! I couldn't agree more. In another post, I apologized for
having no sense of humor yesterday. Thank you for keeping your
sense of humor, and for not swearing at me.
S.T. Wise
>
James Bow
Timothy W. Lynch wrote:
>
> WARNING: Spoilers for DS9's "His Way" lurk below.
>
> In brief: Five words or less: "Plays like bad fanfic."
<snip!>
A good review. And I pretty much disagree with 90% of it. But, too each
their own, I suppose. I liked this episode's lighter touch, and its use
of cliches to good effect.
I do, however, question the placement of this episode. The presence of
lighter episodes is necessary in order to provide occassional relief to
the darker ones -- just by their presence, they contrast with the
heavier episodes and help to make them stronger, in some ways. But
let's put emphasis on the word "Occassional". At most, this sort of
comedy should take place every fifth or sixth episode, to provide a
break from the mayhem. At the pace that the current DS9 season is going,
what should be rather dark is coming off rather lighthearted instead.
I think we would be appreciating "His Way" much more if it, "You are
Cordially Invited..." and "The Magnificent Ferengi" were the only light
episodes of this season, spaced evenly between the other episodes, and
left there to lighten our moods occassionally while we concentrate on
the war.
Best,
James
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on her trip from Bajor? This would explain why she didn't want to eat her
Oysters Rockefeller...
summe...@osu.edu
In article <6i59v7$jed$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu>,
gol...@login2.fas.harvard.edu (Jennifer Goloboy)
wrote:
>
> Does anyone else think it possible that Kira was replaced by a Changeling
> on her trip from Bajor? This would explain why she didn't want to eat her
> Oysters Rockefeller...
>
Reckoning...and do you think Odo wouldn't be able to tell
when he was *kissing* her?
--Lori
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In <6i59v7$jed$1...@news.fas.harvard.edu> gol...@login2.fas.harvard.edu
(Jennifer Goloboy) writes:
>
>Does anyone else think it possible that Kira was replaced by a
>Changeling on her trip from Bajor? This would explain why she didn't
>want to eat her Oysters Rockefeller...
I suppose it's possible. This way they can string along the K/O
storyline some more because it wasn't really Kira on the prome-
nade with Odo.(gag).
I was more concerned with all the human food two
aliens were going to consume. The holoprogram was altered from
what Bashir had made initially. So why order human food?
_______
CA
pink...@epix.net
Re the Oysters Rockefeller: Back in the Twentieth Century they were
considered an aphrodesiac. My guess is Nerys felt she didn't need them.
summe...@osu.edu
> >Does anyone else think it possible that Kira was replaced by a
> >Changeling on her trip from Bajor? This would explain why she didn't
> >want to eat her Oysters Rockefeller...
> ***********************************************************************
>
> I suppose it's possible. This way they can string along the K/O
> storyline some more because it wasn't really Kira on the prome-
> nade with Odo.(gag).
>
Nope, not possible. When you see "The Reckoning"
you'll see that it is, indeed the bona fide Kira.
> I was more concerned with all the human food two
> aliens were going to consume. The holoprogram was altered from
> what Bashir had made initially. So why order human food?
Well, the program did take place on Earth, after all.
John White
This episode did suck but it deserved more than a 1.5 I always figure a
1.5 belongs to the truly horrid, like Voyager's "Elogium" which you
indeed gave a 1.5 But is this episode worse than "Fascination" which you
gave a 2 or "Meridian" at 2.5? Heck your initial grade on Voyagers
"Threshold" was higher than this ;-) though you did give it a final, and
deserved, grade of 0. This episode was no worse than "Ferengi Love
Songs" or "Family Business".
John White
Scothill
b...@boog.orgASM (Arthur Levesque) writes:
> Timothy W. Lynch (tly...@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote:
> TWL>-- The reference to getting Kira's holo-image was a cute one, but I
> TWL>thought much of the point of "Our Man Bashir" was that those were
> TWL>only temporarily stored images, not permanently saved ones.
>
> I thought of that too, and came to a simple conclusion -- Vic lied.
> He obviously has a lot more access to DS9's systems than he's supposed to
> have (Transferring to Kira's holosuite? Calling Odo's office? He
> shouldn't be able to do these things, the characters KNOW he shouldn't be
> able to do these things, but he manages to glibly deflect their questions)
> and is actually quite a danger to the station if he gets out of control.
I personally like the suggestion (mentioned by one of the
reviewers) that this whole thing was set up by Dax or Quark or
both or someone else on the station. That would explain Vic's
overblown abilities both in character analysis and in holoprogram
manipulation--he had help!
I really like this idea; maybe the writers could be persuaded
to admit this in a future episode? Ah well, I'll just imagine that
the looks Quark and Dax had on their faces during The Kiss (TM) were
admissions of guilt. :)
/
:@-) Scott (The DS9 Apologist)
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