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Stargate scene a ripoff of ST VI?

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David Leavitt

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Nov 1, 1994, 7:55:28 AM11/1/94
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Has anyone noticed whether a scene from the new movie Stargate is a ripoff
of the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis in the opening scene of of
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?

It caught my eye when I saw the promo on TV.

Just curious.

Praetor Corbett

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Nov 1, 1994, 10:51:53 AM11/1/94
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As a matter of fact, it is the same effect. Too bad for them, it has
already been done. Just goes to show how wonder Trek is when they are the
first to use some new effect, then someone comes and copies it. One
point, though, the explosion in StarGate was much smaller than the
destruction of any moon.


Thanks

Sean Corbett

S. Docksey

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Nov 1, 1994, 12:25:37 PM11/1/94
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The effect does look similar and just as cool. I forgot to take
note of who was doing the SFX for the movie. Whatever, I still
enjoyed even if it was a tribute of sorts of just about EVERY
movie George and Steven have made.

Set design and wardrobe were bitchingly AWESOME!!!

I got my 8 bucks worth and will definitely get the video.

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David Cornette,Dominic 426,7901,

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Nov 1, 1994, 12:36:36 PM11/1/94
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David Leavitt (Lea...@maclaw.law.cuny.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone noticed whether a scene from the new movie Stargate is a ripoff

: Just curious.

I saw that in the trailer, too. Why create new effects, when you can just copy
old ones?

David Cornette

GILLET C

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Nov 1, 1994, 3:47:31 PM11/1/94
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I saw the movie last week with a bunch of friends and we all groaned
when the explosion occured. We all thought it was ripped off from
ST 6.

mck...@yvax.byu.edu

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Nov 1, 1994, 4:47:51 PM11/1/94
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In article <Leavitt-0111...@maverick.law.cuny.edu>, Lea...@maclaw.law.cuny.edu (David Leavitt) writes:
> Has anyone noticed whether a scene from the new movie Stargate is a ripoff
> of the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis in the opening scene of of
> Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?

This movie ripped a LOT from A LOT of movies, Star Trek VI, included. Bleech!

-Ken

Sashi Alexandra German

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Nov 1, 1994, 11:13:28 PM11/1/94
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In article <Leavitt-0111...@maverick.law.cuny.edu> Lea...@maclaw.law.cuny.edu

(David Leavitt) writes:
>Has anyone noticed whether a scene from the new movie Stargate is a ripoff
>of the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis in the opening scene of of
>Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?
>It caught my eye when I saw the promo on TV.

HGaving seen the movie, I have to say that I was also immediatly hit with that same
thought. I remarked to my boyfriend at the time, "Oh, they're going for the Star Trek
VI Praxis look"

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Kristopher Gilbert

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Nov 2, 1994, 7:55:53 AM11/2/94
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> This movie ripped a LOT from A LOT of movies, Star Trek VI, included. Bleech!

I wouldn't say that it "ripped" off stuff from the other movies,
it just used past ideas to create something new. If you haven't
already seen the movie I highly recomend it, it's very good. And
the special effects are amazing!

Ogre

Lt. Cmdr. Corbett

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Nov 2, 1994, 10:24:25 AM11/2/94
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Hi,

Being a Trekker, I find it hard to like most of the other Sci Fi
that's out there. Maybe it's bias, or (I hope) because ST made leaps and
bounds over the rest of the SF genre. However, I did enjoy StarGate, I
found it to be of a higher quality that most SF. This movie, I believe,
is worthy of being called Good Sci Fi, something that is very, very hard
to find. Like I said, I really enjoyed this fim.

Of course, Gnerations is going to be better. (I hope!)

Thanks

Sean Corbett


ls2...@albnyvms.bitnet

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Nov 2, 1994, 6:44:10 PM11/2/94
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yes

Frank Lazar

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Nov 2, 1994, 10:28:46 PM11/2/94
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Lt. Cmdr. Corbett (sco...@gl.umbc.edu) wrote:
: On 2 Nov 1994, Kristopher Gilbert wrote:

: Hi,

: Being a Trekker, I find it hard to like most of the other Sci Fi
: that's out there. Maybe it's bias, or (I hope) because ST made leaps and
: bounds over the rest of the SF genre. However, I did enjoy StarGate, I

Leaps and Bounds? You've missed a lot of stuff that's been shown even
before TOS. Namely "The Outer Limits" which gets my vote for the
highest consistent level of quality of shows prior to the 90's. Blake's
7 which did rather daring things to it's major cast.

: found it to be of a higher quality that most SF. This movie, I believe,

: is worthy of being called Good Sci Fi, something that is very, very hard
: to find. Like I said, I really enjoyed this fim.

I'd have to agree on that point. Good SF, like Good Fantasy is far
and few between.

ec...@cid.aes.doe.ca

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Nov 2, 1994, 5:04:33 PM11/2/94
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Praetor Corbett (sco...@gl.umbc.edu) wrote:


Uh, excuse me, but TNG was not the first to show explosions of that nature.

Remember, in Alien when the ship self-destructed blew up?

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Charles L Thayer

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Nov 4, 1994, 3:33:04 PM11/4/94
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David Leavitt (Lea...@maclaw.law.cuny.edu) wrote:
: Has anyone noticed whether a scene from the new movie Stargate is a ripoff

: Just curious.

I did notice that, and I think you're right.

Joshua Grass

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Nov 3, 1994, 2:25:03 PM11/3/94
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In article <Cynun...@cid.aes.doe.ca>, <ec...@cid.aes.doe.ca> wrote:
>Praetor Corbett (sco...@gl.umbc.edu) wrote:
>: On 1 Nov 1994, David Leavitt wrote:
>
>: > Has anyone noticed whether a scene from the new movie Stargate is a ripoff
>: > of the destruction of the Klingon moon Praxis in the opening scene of of
>: > Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?
>: >
>: > It caught my eye when I saw the promo on TV.
>: >
>: > Just curious.
>: >
>: >
>
>: As a matter of fact, it is the same effect. Too bad for them, it has
>: already been done. Just goes to show how wonder Trek is when they are the
>: first to use some new effect, then someone comes and copies it. One
>: point, though, the explosion in StarGate was much smaller than the
>: destruction of any moon.
>
>
>Uh, excuse me, but TNG was not the first to show explosions of that nature.
^^^ I assume you mean ST VI

>
>Remember, in Alien when the ship self-destructed blew up?
>

Actually I just saw Alien on TV the other day and the explosions were
not very similar. It was kind of the same idea, a large inner explosion
and a outer ring of force along a plane, but they looked pretty different.

Joshua


KLEIN, EDWARD L

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Nov 6, 1994, 1:18:00 AM11/6/94
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-In article <39828p$2...@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Kristopher Gilbert <og...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes...
->> This movie ripped a LOT from A LOT of movies, Star Trek VI, included. Bleech!
->
->I wouldn't say that it "ripped" off stuff from the other movies,
->it just used past ideas to create something new. If you haven't
->already seen the movie I highly recomend it, it's very good. And
->the special effects are amazing!
->
->Ogre
->


Well, I would personally recommend this turkey only to those who enjoy the
Jurassic Park type of movie - phenominal special effects wrapped around a
poorly executed story.

I was rather disapointed with the way it turned out. And it looked so
promising in the begining....


--ED


Grant Burton

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Nov 4, 1994, 4:30:13 PM11/4/94
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so what is Stargate?
Never heard of it?

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John Needleman

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Nov 10, 1994, 11:54:03 PM11/10/94
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Yes I thought the very same thing, (the explosion of Praxus) when I saw
that special effect. BTW StarGate was good but it should have been
better. I don' believe it is worthy of the sequels that its creators
would like to make.

KLEIN, EDWARD L (elk...@summa.tamu.edu) wrote:
: -In article <39828p$2...@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Kristopher Gilbert <og...@m-net.arbornet.org> writes...

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