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Tommy McClain

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Sep 23, 1994, 2:36:57 AM9/23/94
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I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I watched the re-run
of DS9, where a Galaxy Class Starship, named the Odyssey, was destroyed.
What I want to know is, was this ship ever mentioned before in TNG or
DS9? Also, if so, where and when? And, how many more Galaxy Class
Starhips are there, and what are their names? I do know of the first
Galaxy Class Starship, it was named, oddly enough, USS Galaxy, And, one
more question, what was done after the destruction of the Odyssey? You would
think that the Starfleet would have made some aggression, for destroying
one of their largest ships. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

Tommy McClain
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Edward Barocela

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Sep 23, 1994, 9:53:12 AM9/23/94
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Galaxy Class Starships:

I'm trying to list all of the known Galaxy classes.

1) U.S.S. Galaxy. The original poster alleges that this was the first
of the class, but I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere.

2) U.S.S. Enterprise. Naturally.

3) U.S.S Yamato. Destroyed in ST:TNG episode "Contagion".

4) U.S.S. Odyssey. Destroyed in ST:DS9 episode "Jem'Hadar" (sp?)

That's it! Can anyone remember any other mentions of Galaxy classes?

Ed B.


Eric Zeto

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Sep 23, 1994, 10:58:15 AM9/23/94
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In article <CwKL1...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu>,
mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu (Tommy McClain) wrote:

There were aparently 6 Galaxy Class ships in operation. Only 4 have been
revealed.
Of those four, the Yamato and the Odessy have been destroyed. That leaves
the
Enterprise and the Galaxy as you have mentioned. The other two will
probably
introduced somewhere down the line. (Any excuse to use the Enterprise
model)


Starfleet is doing something about the Odessy and the Dominion for that
matter.
They are outfitting DS9 with the Defiant. As for agression, I don't think
they
can be to agressive considering they're facing an essentially unknown
opponent
that has powers vastly superior to theirs.

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Sep 23, 1994, 1:40:57 PM9/23/94
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Is the Defiant a Galaxy class StarshiP?

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Bryan Dorland

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Sep 23, 1994, 3:08:14 PM9/23/94
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Edward Barocela (e...@ritz.cec.wustl.edu) wrote:
: Galaxy Class Starships:

: I'm trying to list all of the known Galaxy classes.

: 1) U.S.S. Galaxy. The original poster alleges that this was the first
: of the class, but I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere.

: 2) U.S.S. Enterprise. Naturally.

: 3) U.S.S Yamato. Destroyed in ST:TNG episode "Contagion".

: 4) U.S.S. Odyssey. Destroyed in ST:DS9 episode "Jem'Hadar" (sp?)

Did the bridge of the Odyssey look like the brdige of the Enterprise? My
recollection was that it was substantially different.

Bryan

Eric Zeto

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Sep 23, 1994, 5:40:12 PM9/23/94
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In article <35v92u$1...@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, dor...@asimov.nrl.navy.mil (Bryan
Dorland) wrote:

> Edward Barocela (e...@ritz.cec.wustl.edu) wrote:
> : Galaxy Class Starships:
>
> : I'm trying to list all of the known Galaxy classes.
>
> : 1) U.S.S. Galaxy. The original poster alleges that this was the first
> : of the class, but I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere.

It is mentioned in the Star Trek Technical Manual


>
> : 2) U.S.S. Enterprise. Naturally.
>
> : 3) U.S.S Yamato. Destroyed in ST:TNG episode "Contagion".
>
> : 4) U.S.S. Odyssey. Destroyed in ST:DS9 episode "Jem'Hadar" (sp?)
>
> Did the bridge of the Odyssey look like the brdige of the Enterprise? My
> recollection was that it was substantially different.
>

Once again, The ST Tech Manual mentions that the bridge is a plug in module
that is tailored to mission or star ship requirements thus the possibility
that
the same class of ship have different bridges.

> Bryan

Edward Barocela

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Sep 23, 1994, 5:00:14 PM9/23/94
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In article <35v92u$1...@ra.nrl.navy.mil>,

Bryan Dorland <dor...@asimov.nrl.navy.mil> wrote:
>Did the bridge of the Odyssey look like the brdige of the Enterprise? My
>recollection was that it was substantially different.

Hmmm. I'll have to watch that episode again. I don'r remember it
being a carbon copy of the Big E's bridge, but I also don't remember
exactly how much different it was. There are two reasons why it might
look different:

1) As examples of a ship class are built, minor changes are incorporated
into the design as the builders gain experience and devise improvements.
So, if Odyssey was a younger ship than Enterprise the bridge might have been
built to a later style.

2) Maybe the captain has some leeway in "customizing" his ship?

Ed B.


JCFROST

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Sep 23, 1994, 5:23:02 PM9/23/94
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In article <1994Sep23.1...@walter.cray.com>, g...@f16.cray.com
(George Eberle) writes:

>Is the Defiant a Galaxy class StarshiP?

>George

No, not evenly remotely close. Next time, please read the MANY preceding
posts which discuss this issue before posting a question. The Defiant is
a much smaller, totally new design ship which is the most powerful in
Starfleet. See current TV Guide article for more information.

Jim

Paul Stacy

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Sep 23, 1994, 11:04:18 PM9/23/94
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mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu (Tommy McClain) writes:

The USS Odyssey was never heard of before the last DS9 episode.

The Star Trek staff (Gene, Mike Okuda, etc.) say there are six
Galaxy-class ships (Enterprise, Galaxy, Yamato [destroyed by Iconian
computer virus], and Odyssey are named so far.)

Starfleet's response appears to be the introduction of the USS
Defiant in DS9.


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Rick Garner

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Sep 24, 1994, 11:20:48 AM9/24/94
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> Tommy McClain
> mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu

I personally don't recall hearing the ODYSSEY mentioned before that
episode. There are only three Galaxy class starships left, including the
ENTERPRISE. As for the aggression part, a Starfleet battleship known as
the DEFIANT seems like a response to me :-)

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Blase Martin Louis

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Sep 24, 1994, 3:10:23 PM9/24/94
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: Tommy McClain (mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
: > one of their largest ships. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

They deliberately never showed the Odyssey's registry number, because they
were using old Enterprise models. :)

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Sep 24, 1994, 8:11:45 PM9/24/94
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Well, I doubt that they had even used the ship "odyssey" before that. I think
I read somewhere the names of the very few Galaxy class starships. And nowhere
to be found was "Odyssey." They made it up so they could throw it away! But
I agree, the Federation are like the US govt. in that way. They could be struc
k at violently, but they would take a few years deciding whether they should or
should not hand-slap their enemy. Bah!

Davin C. Flateau

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Sep 25, 1994, 12:28:05 PM9/25/94
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In article <361tiv$6...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, m-b...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
(Blase Martin Louis) wrote:

> : Tommy McClain (mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
> : > one of their largest ships. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.
>
> They deliberately never showed the Odyssey's registry number, because they
> were using old Enterprise models. :)

BUT, I remember there was a shot of the underside of the saucer
section - there was some sunlight reflection, but I bet if you have a good
VCR or SVHS, you can catch the name on it (I saw something there, but I
couldn't make it out). If they indeed reshot using models, it would be
trivial to replace the name on the models.

Davin

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James D Thompson

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Sep 25, 1994, 5:15:29 PM9/25/94
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There was SOMETHING on the underside of the Odyssey's saucer, but the
glare from the light was too much to make it out clearly, perhaps
intentionally. On the other hand, they DID repaint the Enterprise model
for the Yamato in Contagion, where that ship was barely seen. Who
knows?

Tzimisce

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Sep 25, 1994, 2:01:43 PM9/25/94
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Edward Barocela (e...@ritz.cec.wustl.edu) wrote:
: I'm trying to list all of the known Galaxy classes.
: That's it! Can anyone remember any other mentions of Galaxy classes?

Nope. There was a throwaway line about 2 Galaxy class starships in one of
the ST:DS9 _novels_ but I can't remember exactly what as the novels are
generally considered heresy ...

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wlc1031

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Sep 25, 1994, 11:20:39 PM9/25/94
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Tommy McClain (mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
: I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I watched the re-run

According to the Star Trek Encyclopedia, the Jem'Hadar was the first time
the USS Odyssey was mentioned. There are about five to seven
Galaxy-class starships. Two, USS Yamato, and USS Odyssesy, got
destroyed. The USS Galaxy and the USS Enterprise are both Galaxy-class
starships. So, that's the four ship names I know. Starfleet's response
is this week's season preimere of DS9.


wlc1031

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Sep 25, 1994, 11:23:21 PM9/25/94
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Bryan Dorland (dor...@asimov.nrl.navy.mil) wrote:
: Did the bridge of the Odyssey look like the brdige of the Enterprise? My

: recollection was that it was substantially different.

It was different. The Galaxy-class was designed to have replaceable
bridge modules. Fleet yards can just "snap" in a new bridge onto the
saucer whenever the need arises.

Steve Andrews

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Sep 26, 1994, 11:03:27 AM9/26/94
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That's pretty impressive technology, bordering on 'magical'. We can't
even "snap" in a new microprocessor and its resident software for the
attitude control systems on different satellites today without rewriting,
redefining, and redesigning all the interfaces.

Steve A.

Stephen...@gsfc.nasa.gov

Chad Aaron Buesing

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Sep 27, 1994, 2:25:53 PM9/27/94
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>Steve A.

>Stephen...@gsfc.nasa.gov

Lots of things in Trek "border on magical", do they not? I'd say this
is one of the more believable things they would have us accept.
Besides, I'm willing to accept time travel (for example), even if I
don't believe it could ever ever ever happen, in order to enjoy the show.

Vayan con Dios . . .
Chad Aaron Buesing

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Sep 27, 1994, 3:42:05 PM9/27/94
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Edward Barocela (e...@ritz.cec.wustl.edu) wrote:

: 1) As examples of a ship class are built, minor changes are incorporated


: into the design as the builders gain experience and devise improvements.
: So, if Odyssey was a younger ship than Enterprise the bridge might have been
: built to a later style.

Or vise versa. This, I'm sure, is a very common thing. No two ships would
be exactly identical.

: 2) Maybe the captain has some leeway in "customizing" his ship?

A third idea, are not the Bridges of Galaxy Class ships removable? So that
a different bridge could be put in that was designed for a different
mission?
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Matthew D. Hale

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Sep 24, 1994, 2:57:35 PM9/24/94
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>By the way, did anyone catch the registry number on the >Odyssey?

I have been over the episode several times, and the strange thing is: there are
no markings ANYWHERE on the outside of the ship. Comparing shots of the
Enterprise from TNG, the name & registration should be blatantly obvious, but
there wasn't anything there. I guess they couldn't be bothered to paint new
lettering on the models after they stripped off the "Enterprise" writing.

Matthew

Daniel A. Hartung

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Sep 29, 1994, 5:10:55 PM9/29/94
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Steve Andrews <stephen...@gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote:

>wlc...@is.nyu.edu writes:
>>
>> It was different. The Galaxy-class was designed to have replaceable
>> bridge modules. Fleet yards can just "snap" in a new bridge onto the
>> saucer whenever the need arises.
>
>That's pretty impressive technology, bordering on 'magical'. We can't
>even "snap" in a new microprocessor and its resident software for the
>attitude control systems on different satellites today without rewriting,
>redefining, and redesigning all the interfaces.
>
C'mon, it's Plug'n'Pray on a larger scale. ;-)

Actually, it's just a retcon to deal with the fact that they can't
always film on the main bridge, and that the bridge set changed
from season to season and movie to movie.


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CHRIS NETHERCOTT

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Sep 29, 1994, 1:04:30 PM9/29/94
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Well, as far as I know, Starfleet had a contract for 6 Galaxy
class Starships. The first three completed were: The Galaxy
(Never Seen), The Yamato (Seen in Where Silence has Lease, and
Contagion), and The Enterprise. There were still 3 others to be
completed. So now that we know about the Odyssey, there are 2 other
un-named Galaxy Class Starships. Unfortunatly Starfleet also had
the option of 6 MORE Galaxy Class Starships to be made. So as far
as we, the fans, know, there could be 10 Galaxy Class Starships.

Calvin
>

>.
>.

CHRIS NETHERCOTT

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Sep 29, 1994, 1:15:52 PM9/29/94
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>
>Bryan
>
>.
No it didn't.. It looked like the Battle Bridge. Probably because
the original was busy with 'ST:Generations'
>.
Calvin

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Sep 30, 1994, 3:59:43 AM9/30/94
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>>> It was different. The Galaxy-class was designed to have replaceable
>>> bridge modules. Fleet yards can just "snap" in a new bridge onto the
>>> saucer whenever the need arises.
>>
>>That's pretty impressive technology, bordering on 'magical'. We can't
>>even "snap" in a new microprocessor and its resident software for the
>>attitude control systems on different satellites today without rewriting,
>>redefining, and redesigning all the interfaces.
>>
>C'mon, it's Plug'n'Pray on a larger scale. ;-)

I dont think its that hard to believe. The standard intell based PC can
have just about any HD, printer, or modem plugged into it with little or
no software reconfiguration. A F-16 Falcon was designed to be fittable
with several different turbofan engines depending on what the mechanic
has in stock. and most cars built now use the same compontents except
depending on the configuration you have a D a L or a X model. Its not
hard to think that in 300 years engineers will be able to pick and choose
different "snap on" bridge modules. as long as everything is rigged on
both sides to work with a certain type of interface..

Franz Michael

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Sep 30, 1994, 1:46:11 PM9/30/94
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> Steve A.

> Stephen...@gsfc.nasa.gov

No more magical than "snapping" in a 486DX or Pentium into the OverDrive
socket on a 486SX. Besides, a bridge is just a room with a set of
consoles in it. If the room is the same size, and the consoles are
compatible, then what difference does it make what it looks like?

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Shawn P. Lemay

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Oct 1, 1994, 4:36:44 PM10/1/94
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Well... you'd have to see the season premier of DS9 to see what
Star Fleet does in return. That's all I'll give up.
As for the rest of your questions... I seem to recal it in one
of the Star Trek Guides... I forget which.
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Oct 5, 1994, 11:31:12 PM10/5/94
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Tommy McClain (mcc...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu) wrote:
: I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I watched the re-run
: of DS9, where a Galaxy Class Starship, named the Odyssey, was destroyed.
: What I want to know is, was this ship ever mentioned before in TNG or
: DS9? Also, if so, where and when? And, how many more Galaxy Class
: Starhips are there, and what are their names? I do know of the first
: Galaxy Class Starship, it was named, oddly enough, USS Galaxy, And, one
: more question, what was done after the destruction of the Odyssey? You would
: think that the Starfleet would have made some aggression, for destroying
: one of their largest ships. Any replies would be greatly appreciated.

According to the ST:TNG Tech Reference there are supposedly a total of 5
Galaxy class starships. The Galaxy, Enterprise and Yamato are the only
ones named, the additional two were left un-named for the writers to
incorporate.

Of course, the Yamato was destroyed in "Contagion" during the second season.

Hope this helps somewhat.

L8er,
Brian

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