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Jason Cheng

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Jan 25, 1995, 8:14:40 PM1/25/95
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While watching the 7th season's episode "Phantasms", Data kept referring
to Spot in the masculine, e.g. "I've been watching _him_ sleep for the
past 15 minutes, in which time _he_ had umteen muscle spasms ..."

But later in the season, in the episode "Genesis", Data's cat was pregnant.

Have there been any discussion on this before?

Jason
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Ernesto S. Ince

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Jan 26, 1995, 12:26:06 PM1/26/95
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Jason Cheng (aa...@torfree.net) wrote:
: While watching the 7th season's episode "Phantasms", Data kept referring

Well, according to the numerous complaints on this newsgroup I think many
people will probably say Spot started as a male but that wasn't PC so
they decided to recast the cat as a female. ;)

Ernie

Kent Timm

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Jan 26, 1995, 2:00:58 AM1/26/95
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In a previous article, aa...@torfree.net (Jason Cheng) says:

>While watching the 7th season's episode "Phantasms", Data kept referring
>to Spot in the masculine, e.g. "I've been watching _him_ sleep for the
>past 15 minutes, in which time _he_ had umteen muscle spasms ..."
>
>But later in the season, in the episode "Genesis", Data's cat was pregnant.

Spot is female. In fact to cats play Spot, one for the passive (being
held) shot and another for move "active" shots.


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S. Docksey

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Jan 26, 1995, 1:49:01 PM1/26/95
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One of the great mysteries of the Universe!

SPOT, the sex change cat!!

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Virginia Boehm

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Jan 26, 1995, 9:11:07 PM1/26/95
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Spot is most definately a girl-cat. While "Genesis" is a pretty bad
show, so far as a know, tomcats don't have kittens.
Gini

Ronald Kollgaard

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Jan 28, 1995, 8:19:15 AM1/28/95
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In article E...@espada.chi.il.us, ba...@vpnet.chi.il.us (marcia goldstein) writes:
> Ernesto S. Ince (ei...@larry.cc.emory.edu) writes:
> : Jason Cheng (aa...@torfree.net) wrote:
> : : While watching the 7th season's episode "Phantasms", Data kept referring
> : : to Spot in the masculine, e.g. "I've been watching _him_ sleep for the
> : : past 15 minutes, in which time _he_ had umteen muscle spasms ..."
>
> : : But later in the season, in the episode "Genesis", Data's cat was pregnant.


Clearly, Star Fleet regulations insist that all cats be addressed as "sir" or
"him" regardless of actual gender. Although "maam" or "her" can be used in
a crisis (say, a warp core breach in one of those whiffle-ball-with-a-bell
cat toys). The real question is what about Picard's fish? Unfortunately, I
don't think any of Livingston's big dramatic moments may it past the editors
so this mystery may never be solved...

--Ron

Chris Dunford

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Jan 28, 1995, 12:33:26 PM1/28/95
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In article <3g8lve$8...@moe.cc.emory.edu>

ei...@larry.cc.emory.edu "Ernesto S. Ince" writes:

> Well, according to the numerous complaints on this newsgroup I think many
> people will probably say Spot started as a male but that wasn't PC so
> they decided to recast the cat as a female. ;)

Of course - and that's why the colour changed as well :-) So now we need the
"Was Spot gay?" thread! This said, isn't it *much* too PC to have a minority
species such as a cat in Star Trek!

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Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

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Jan 28, 1995, 4:37:00 PM1/28/95
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> Well, according to the numerous complaints on this newsgroup I think
many
> people will probably say Spot started as a male but that wasn't PC so
> they decided to recast the cat as a female. ;)

I think there's another explanation:

Spot 1 (the male version) died. (Maybe Picard's fish are piranha (sp?) and
ate him). Data just got a new cat from a planet (or a food replicator -
they can replicate gagh, after all. And, if the Federation ever encounters
Melmacians, they need replicators that can replicate cats!), and since he
sees no need to change the name, he calls the second cat (the female
version) Spot, as well.

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Jet Silverman

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Jan 30, 1995, 2:59:14 AM1/30/95
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marcia goldstein (ba...@vpnet.chi.il.us) wrote:

: My personal explanation for the apparent sex-change of Data's pet is that
: he has owned several cats over the years, indiscriminately naming all of
: them Spot. The sex of the various cats was likely considered inconsequential
: in assigning them that name. This would also account for the slight
: variations in the appearance of the various Spots.
: --

I agree. When I was just a little plane, I had a whole series of cats I
named "Frisky".

Jet Silverman

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Jan 30, 1995, 3:02:25 AM1/30/95
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Data got Spot because Riker told him, "If you want to be more human, you
should go out and get a little pussy."

Paul Stacy

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Jan 30, 1995, 7:23:21 PM1/30/95
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aa...@torfree.net (Jason Cheng) writes:

>While watching the 7th season's episode "Phantasms", Data kept referring
>to Spot in the masculine, e.g. "I've been watching _him_ sleep for the
>past 15 minutes, in which time _he_ had umteen muscle spasms ..."

>But later in the season, in the episode "Genesis", Data's cat was pregnant.

Spot was a male at first, but changed to a female (probably for
the pregnancy story.)

Considering that Spot has already changed species, gender seems
reasonable. (-:-)(tm)


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Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

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Feb 2, 1995, 1:40:00 PM2/2/95
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> One of the great mysteries of the Universe!
>
> SPOT, the sex change cat!!

Not neccessarily.

Maybe Data first got a tomcat, then this cat died for whatever reasons
(maybe Dr. Crusher is not that good a vetenarian (sp?) ;)), and Data just
got a new (this time female) cat.
Since he wanted the other crew members to keep Spot (the old one) in mind,
he named the new cat after the old one.

(Something like

DC-1701 (DC = Data's Cat) = Spot, male
DC-1701-A (not DC-1702) = Spot, female
)

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Bernhard Rosenkraenzer

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Feb 4, 1995, 6:37:00 PM2/4/95
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> isn't it *much* too PC to have a
> minority species such as a cat in Star Trek!

Oh, yes, I've already heard some dogs complaining... Worf sometimes made
dog-like noises, but there was never a dog on Star Trek...

Allison Mitchell

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Feb 5, 1995, 10:15:52 PM2/5/95
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In article <5f5CG...@p0000021.flash.gun.de>,

Bernhard Rosenkraenzer <BE...@flash.gun.de> wrote:
>
>Maybe Data first got a tomcat, then this cat died for whatever reasons
>(maybe Dr. Crusher is not that good a vetenarian (sp?) ;)), and Data just
>got a new (this time female) cat.
>Since he wanted the other crew members to keep Spot (the old one) in mind,
>he named the new cat after the old one.

Actually, from what I've heard, Spot has been played by quite a few cats.
Apparently, they used 6 cats for Spot's brief role in the last movie --
and they were of both sexes.....

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Virginia Boehm

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Feb 6, 1995, 8:47:20 AM2/6/95
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In <5fHT5...@p0000021.flash.gun.de> BE...@flash.gun.de (Bernhard
Rosenkraenzer) writes:

>
>In message <791314...@dunford.demon.co.uk>,
cdun...@dunford.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
>> isn't it *much* too PC to have a
>> minority species such as a cat in Star Trek!
>
>Oh, yes, I've already heard some dogs complaining... Worf sometimes
made
>dog-like noises, but there was never a dog on Star Trek...
>
StarFleet Admiral Bero,
>current Captain of the starship U.S.S. Tawern, NCC-54456

>

Ah - but now we know that Captain Kate at least has a dog. Equal time
for canines? My cat would not approve.
Gini

Alara Rogers

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Feb 6, 1995, 6:37:02 PM2/6/95
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Virginia Boehm <gi...@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>In <5fHT5...@p0000021.flash.gun.de> BE...@flash.gun.de (Bernhard
>Rosenkraenzer) writes:


>>Oh, yes, I've already heard some dogs complaining... Worf sometimes
>made
>>dog-like noises, but there was never a dog on Star Trek...

Nope, nope, wrong. There were ten puppies in "True Q", and in the same
episode, Beverly Crusher was briefly an Irish setter. (I *think* she was
an Irish setter-- anyone who know dog breeds able to clarify?)

GREG SWITZER

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Feb 8, 1995, 2:02:39 AM2/8/95
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: >>dog-like noises, but there was never a dog on Star Trek...
:
: Nope, nope, wrong. There were ten puppies in "True Q", and in the same
: episode, Beverly Crusher was briefly an Irish setter. (I *think* she was
: an Irish setter-- anyone who know dog breeds able to clarify?)

Also if you remember the TOS episode where Kirk was split into
the two halves of his personality, the transporter first affected a dog
they beamed up if I remember correctly. That may not be the right order
of events, but there was definitely a dog....or two when it was split.....
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Feb 8, 1995, 6:02:14 AM2/8/95
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In article <BY+4TE...@delphi.com> aj...@delphi.com "Alara Rogers" writes:

> Nope, nope, wrong. There were ten puppies in "True Q", and in the same
> episode, Beverly Crusher was briefly an Irish setter. (I *think* she was
> an Irish setter-- anyone who know dog breeds able to clarify?)

I rest my case - PCism gone mad, that minority groups like cats and dogs get
cast ahead of white heterosexual able-bodied male humans who could play their
roles just as well.

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Michael Decosta III

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Feb 9, 1995, 8:35:09 AM2/9/95
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Hmmm...I remember puppies in TNG and in VOY didn't Capt J. ask her POSSLQ
to fed her dog?

If Spot weren't a living creature I'd say it was and android that hadn't
made up its sex yet.

The only way I can fit the Spot sex change into ST continuity is that maybe
it was one of the consequences of the Federation's officers' penchant for
mucking about in time?

BTW does anyone else see a slight glimmer of hope that in VOY's Torres
and Janeway's expertise in temporal mechanics, just possibly in VOY
these time travel loose ends might get neatly tied up? There does seem
to be some setup here that these to characters have a clearer understanding
of the implications of their actions in time travelling
than previous T-travelling Star Fleet personnel?

Might be an excuse to bring Q in. Could be interesting to have the Fed
timeline patched up from 70,000ly away.
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