Relations between cast members: Do these people like each other?
mrta...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Star Trek shows get along with one another. Do they hate each other? Do they
work well together? I had heard that Denise Crosby wasn't especially well
liked (and might be a little loopy), and a brief (and worthless) group inter-
view I saw with Sirtis, Spiner and Dorn suggested that Marina ain't the
*warmest* person on the block. So what have people heard?
-Mike
Tracy S Thompson
You mean rumours, or convention news?
Well, after seeing Frakes, Spiner, McFadden, and Sirtis at cons:
1. They all get along just great.
2. Spiner and McFadden are good friends, "the guys" spend time together.
3. Sirtis gets along well with more or less all, but has an annoying
little yippy dog she loves & Frakes & Spiner hate (as do most
people when confronted with spoilt little yippy dogs).
4. Patrick Stewart hates anybody else sitting in the captain's chair.
Oops, that's all I can remember.
In short, they like to tell stories about each other, but they do seem
to be friends- *if* what they say at cons is true (anybody know?)
Also saw the E! special, which leads one to believe the DS9ers are
getting on rather well themselves.
TOS is *much* more interesting in terms of cast gossip! You should
have heard Majel Barrett-Roddenberry going on about Shatner at the
NY Thanksgiving con!
Teresa
ex-grue
Lisa Hansen I.T.
>> Star Trek shows get along with one another. Do they hate each other? Do they
>> work well together? I had heard that Denise Crosby wasn't especially well
>> liked (and might be a little loopy), and a brief (and worthless) group inter-
>> view I saw with Sirtis, Spiner and Dorn suggested that Marina ain't the
>> *warmest* person on the block. So what have people heard?
>
>
>1. They all get along just great.
>2. Spiner and McFadden are good friends, "the guys" spend time together.
>3. Sirtis gets along well with more or less all, but has an annoying
> little yippy dog she loves & Frakes & Spiner hate (as do most
> people when confronted with spoilt little yippy dogs).
>4. Patrick Stewart hates anybody else sitting in the captain's chair.
>
>Oops, that's all I can remember.
>
>In short, they like to tell stories about each other, but they do seem
>to be friends- *if* what they say at cons is true (anybody know?)
>
>Also saw the E! special, which leads one to believe the DS9ers are
>getting on rather well themselves.
>
>
>TOS is *much* more interesting in terms of cast gossip! You should
>have heard Majel Barrett-Roddenberry going on about Shatner at the
>NY Thanksgiving con!
>
>Teresa
>ex-grue
I saw a tape of a Joan Rivers show where the whole cast (minus LeVar) was on.
Everyone seemed really chummy, and it was pointed out that Dorn and Spiner
are the resident practical jokers.
I also remember reading a TV Guide interview with Patrick Stewart where he
was talking about learning to scuba dive; he said he would go only if he
could get Brent Spiner to join him - they're both too afraid to go alone!
He also mentioned that the cast frequently gets together outside of work -
for some reason, I like the idea that they're friends off camera as well.
-Lisa
Thomas Hall
In a previous article, THOM...@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (Tracy S Thompson) says:
>In <1994Mar6...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> mrta...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>
>> I was wondering what people knew about how well the casts of the two current
>> Star Trek shows get along with one another. Do they hate each other? Do they
[gossip deleted due to admisability]
>TOS is *much* more interesting in terms of cast gossip! You should
>have heard Majel Barrett-Roddenberry going on about Shatner at the
>NY Thanksgiving con!
>
>Teresa
>ex-grue
Please do tell. Anything about Shatner would not surprise me. Although...
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R. Dan Henry
>From: dbr...@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Daniel A. Brown (Bernardston ES))
>Subject: Re: Relations between cast members: Do these people like each other?
>Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 03:32:09 GMT
>Apparently Gates McFadden and Patrick Stewart have developed a warm
>friendship since working on the show. Whether they've done any Level Three
>Diagnostics on each other is unknown.
Now there's a euphemism to keep in mind. Very catchy.
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Noel Rappin
>In a previous article, THOM...@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (Tracy S Thompson) says:
>>In <1994Mar6...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> mrta...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>
>>> I was wondering what people knew about how well the casts of the two current
>>> Star Trek shows get along with one another. Do they hate each other? Do they
And, of course, Patrick Stewart cast Spiner, Frakes, McFadden and Colm
Meany when he toured in Every Good Boy Deserves Favour last year.
Admittedly that was partially so it could be promoted as a "Star Trek
Event", but it would be an odd choice if they absolutely couldn't
stand each other.
--------
Noel Rappin (no...@cc.gatech.edu)
Graphics, Visualization and Usability Center
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Daniel A. Brown (Bernardston ES)
Apparently Gates McFadden and Patrick Stewart have developed a warm
friendship since working on the show. Whether they've done any Level Three
Diagnostics on each other is unknown.
-DAN
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: In a previous article, dbr...@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Daniel A. Brown Bernardston ES)) says:
: >
: >Apparently Gates McFadden and Patrick Stewart have developed a warm
: >friendship since working on the show. Whether they've done any Level Three
: >Diagnostics on each other is unknown.
: >
: Gates and Brent Spiner are also quite close. Brent is the godfather of
: Gates' son, Jack. Brent was also an usher at Marina's wedding and best man
: at LeVar's. Also known to be good friends are Marina Sirtis and Michael
: Dorn. The entire cast are friends and frequently see each other off the set.
Also, Patrick and Brent claim to be close friends. In a recent TV
guide interview, Patrick said (not exact, but close quote)" Brent and I are
going to learn to scuba dive. We're both terrified of water, so we're going
to hold each other's hands and jump in."
Also, when patrick took his recent production of "Every good Boy
deserves Favor" on the road, it was mostly TNG cast, and Patrick said "It
hadn't occured to me in that way. I just cast my friends" The cast
included Frakes, Spiner, Meany, and McFadden. It was about political
prisioners in a russian mental hospital, and I'm sure it was an inspiration
for "Frame of Mind"
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Dixie L. Peterson
In a previous article, dbr...@k12.ucs.umass.edu (Daniel A. Brown Bernardston ES)) says:
>
>In a previous article, mrta...@ulkyvx.louisville.edu () says:
>
>>I was wondering what people knew about how well the casts of the two current
>>Star Trek shows get along with one another. Do they hate each other? Do they
>>work well together? I had heard that Denise Crosby wasn't especially well
>>liked (and might be a little loopy), and a brief (and worthless) group inter-
>>view I saw with Sirtis, Spiner and Dorn suggested that Marina ain't the
>>*warmest* person on the block. So what have people heard?
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>
>Apparently Gates McFadden and Patrick Stewart have developed a warm
>friendship since working on the show. Whether they've done any Level Three
>Diagnostics on each other is unknown.
>
Gates and Brent Spiner are also quite close. Brent is the godfather of
Gates' son, Jack. Brent was also an usher at Marina's wedding and best man
at LeVar's. Also known to be good friends are Marina Sirtis and Michael
Dorn. The entire cast are friends and frequently see each other off the set.
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as a grip on the set of TNG. I asked her about the rule that no one is
allowed to sit in the Capt's Chair. She said that was myth and that people
do it all the time....in fact her hubby Tom sat and ate lunch in it right
after my question just for humors sake.
Nancy
stephanie clarke
S Thompson) wrote:
>
> Do you remember the story about Frakes, Spiner, Sirtis and the dress?
> Shows that they can be rather- uh..- close, without it meaning anything.
Actually it was Gates and the dress. Anyway someone posted a while ago in
this thread that they heard Denise was kind of "loopy" and didn't get on as
well with everyone else. I heard, though, that in Tasha's memorial scene
Sirtis' tears were real and I heard Jonathan Frakes say that he missed
Denise because she was the best dancer on the bridge-- dancing with Dorn
just wasn't the same. Also, Marina said in a con that we won't be getting
any tell all book 20 yrs from now from any of them trashing the others
because they all genuinely got along.
John-William DeClaris
(Amy Russ) writes:
# >
# >Nothing so exciting. She just said, in so many despreciating words, that
# >much of his book was a pack of lies. She also accused him of taking
# >personal credit for all of Star Trek's success. Considering this is at
# >a con, not during a flame war, these statements stand out pretty strong.
# >
# >I remember lots of people in the crowd intoning "Ooooh..." after each
# >remark.
# >
# >TT
#
# I confess I'm surprised by that. I read the book and found it to be
# pretty moderate and even-handed. Shatner doesn't really take credit for
# anything - he mostly talks about production problems. What was her
# problem, specifically (did she get more specific than that?)
#
# Amy Elizabeth
# alr...@ouray.denver.colorado.edu
# --
I have not read the book (except when I go to the bookstore and skim through
it, deciding if I want to buy it or not), but I believe I am hearing alot of
antagonism directed to William Shatner that I do not believe is justified. He
"wrote" a book, where he explored his past on Star Trek, and then told the
world that after doing his research, he learned that some of the cast members
did not like him. I think that is a brave thing to write and openly admit.
Like Amy, I did not see any chapters where Shatner claimed credit for the
success of Star Trek, but you have to admit that his portrayel of Kirk was a
big reason for the success of Star Trek. I do not go to Star Trek cons, but
this is the first that I have heard of a former cast member of Star trek
actually flaming another cast member. I guess with the death of her husband,
she has some inner resentment at the continued success of Star Trek.
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lad...@delphi.com
>> Do you remember the story about Frakes, Spiner, Sirtis and the dress?
>> Shows that they can be rather- uh..- close, without it meaning anything.
>
>Actually it was Gates and the dress. Anyway someone posted a while ago in
--Eve (Lad...@delphi.com)
Tracy S Thompson
Ok, I'll give it a go. I was waiting for someone to tell it better...
I'll start off saying it was Gates. Can't remember too well these days...
Anyway, she and Spiner and Frakes were going to an awards dinner or some
such formal event, and they had planned to share a limo. McFadden had a
dress, which she had bought for the occasion, but which she had apparently
not tried on recently. As it turned out, this dress did not quite fit.
Whenever she'd got it buttoned up at the bottom, it'd come undone at the
top, and vice versa. Not a good idea.
So, she met up with Frakes and Spiner, and got into the limo, and the
dress kept undoing itself. Since she was going out in public, this would
not do. ISTR she ended up stretched across the back of the limo, with
both men helping re-fasten the dress, one from the top, and one from the
bottom. Eventually, I believe they went by Spiner's house (this is one part
I don't understand), and got a coat or something for her to wear over it.
This sounds like being fairly comfortable around each other to me.
Well now, I hope that helps to appease your curiosity. No all I need do now
is wait around for someone to correct me.
>
ex-TT
> --Eve (Lad...@delphi.com)
Sashi Alexandra German
John --
I have read the book, and also feel there is too much critcism of Shatner. What
some people seem to be missing is the fact Shatner used a great deal of DIRECT
QUOTES in his book... where he stood back and let others teel the stories... and
simply gave them a forum to tell all.
The only thing I can see Majel nailing Shatner on in the book is something toward
the end -- the issue of the IDIC pin and the merchandising of it for Roddenberry's
company at the time, Lincoln Enterprises (A company still around, which Majel
represents at cons she attends). Shatner claimed the IDIC pin was on the air to help
sell in the company catalog... and that was it's SOLE purpose. I can see Majel
knowing a different side to that, and not understanding where Shatner's coming from.
Overall though, I enjoyed the book and would recommend every TOS fan reading it, You
learn a lot, and hear the facts from others than Shatner... which takes away various
people's distate for Shatner (often unjustified).
LL+P,
Sashi German
Philadelphia, PA Star Trek Club (Starfleet)
sa...@feith.com
Erin
You were right about the part with the dress not fitting. Here's the
story as told by Marina Sirtis:
McFadden's extremely form fitting dress was top to somewhere near the
bottom closed by hook-and-eye closures. When she got into the car, and between
the thee of them, couldn't keep it hooked, Frakes sewed the dress shut, and
they continued on their way to the ceremony.
Chris Sonnack
> [...] she ended up stretched across the back of the limo, with both men
> helping re-fasten the dress, one from the top, and one from the bottom.
> [...]
> This sounds like being fairly comfortable around each other to me.
Based on long ago experiences in theatre and (amateur) film, actors tend
to end up seeing each other in various states of undress. Plus, various
aspects of the profession require -- sometimes quite intimate -- physical
contact. So I can imagine they would be perfectly comfortable in the
situation you described.
I'd also guess, from the way they interact on screen, that either (1) they
are very, VERY good actors, or (2) they do indeed like each other.
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TST> from the bottom. Eventually, I believe they went by Spiner's house
TST> (this is one part I don't understand), and got a coat or something for
TST> her to wear over it.
TST> This sounds like being fairly comfortable around each other to me.
TST> Well now, I hope that helps to appease your curiosity. No all I need
TST> do now is wait around for someone to correct me.
That sounds about right... good going!
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Dixie L. Peterson
>
>Ok, I'll give it a go. I was waiting for someone to tell it better...
>
>I'll start off saying it was Gates. Can't remember too well these days...
>Anyway, she and Spiner and Frakes were going to an awards dinner or some
>such formal event, and they had planned to share a limo. McFadden had a
>dress, which she had bought for the occasion, but which she had apparently
>not tried on recently. As it turned out, this dress did not quite fit.
>Whenever she'd got it buttoned up at the bottom, it'd come undone at the
>top, and vice versa. Not a good idea.
>
>So, she met up with Frakes and Spiner, and got into the limo, and the
>dress kept undoing itself. Since she was going out in public, this would
>not do. ISTR she ended up stretched across the back of the limo, with
>both men helping re-fasten the dress, one from the top, and one from the
>bottom. Eventually, I believe they went by Spiner's house (this is one part
>I don't understand), and got a coat or something for her to wear over it.
>
>This sounds like being fairly comfortable around each other to me.
>
>Well now, I hope that helps to appease your curiosity. No all I need do now
>is wait around for someone to correct me.
>>
they go by Brent's house for a coat. As I heard it, by the time the limo
arrived at the banquet the guys had the dress together. But, when Gates
made her grand exit out of the limo the dress came completely undone.
Supremely embarassed, Gates ran crying into the bathroom. Jonathan, who
apparently knows how to sew, followed her in with a needle and thread and
made the necessary alterations. :)
Oh, and one other thing. Gates didn't buy the dress. She designs most of
her clothes and has someone make them for her. She designed this particular
dress herself, but had never tried it on until it was time for her to wear it.
I think that there's a lesson here somewhere. :)
Anybody else hear a different version?