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M17...@mwvm.mitre.org

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Oct 21, 1992, 12:27:17 PM10/21/92
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This is a simple question, please, let's not get emotional when answering. I
have noticed that there is a distinct dislike for Troi on the net. Why?

I feel she is underdeveloped, maybe could be better written, but I can't get
too worked up about her. She provides the 'sympathetic' side in counter to
Riker's(& maybe Worf's) attitude that 'they're all out to get us'-or something
like that.

I'm thinking of doing a similar survey on all the crew---summmary will be
posted if there is enough interest.

1. Why do you dislike Troi?
2. Is your dislike weak, mild, moderate, intense, you want to rip her eyes out?
3. Why do you like Troi?
4. Are your feelings weak, mild, moderate, intense, you want to jump her bones?
5. If you want her gone, how would you replace her? Or would you?
6. If you could write her part, how would you improve it?
7. Is her empathic capability a positive or negative asset to the Enterprise?

Oh, and has anyone else noticed how on several episodes they didn't use Troi
when her empathic capabilities were really needed? I can't think of the names
of the shows, but I seem to vaguely recall a couple that screamed out that
Troi should be used to determine the other side's feelings.

Well, that's all for now. Please e-mail me at address above. And thanks ahead
of time for your help.

Ellie Blackwell--"Warning-Gamemaster whimsical when bored"
"Don't sweat the small stuff. Remember, it's all small stuff"

Dave Schaumann

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Oct 21, 1992, 3:24:25 PM10/21/92
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In article <16887AF2...@mwvm.mitre.org>, M17257@mwvm writes:
>This is a simple question, please, let's not get emotional when answering. I
>have noticed that there is a distinct dislike for Troi on the net. Why?

IMHO, the underlying reasons are:

1. The writers (usually) don't have a clue about how to
handle the character, and so Troi ends up either being
mis-used, or ignored.

2. This is compounded by the fact that (unlike Patrick
Stewart and a few others on the show), Marina Sirtis
simply doesn't have the ability to turn a poorly
written part into a watchable performance.

3. Ms. Sirtis seems to lack the ability to convincingly
portray strong emotions.

Noting also that episodes that focus on one particular character tend
to live or die on the performance of the actor in question, it's no
surprise that many of the Troi-oriented episodes are dissapointing.

Of course, there are at least a few examples of Troi being used to
good effect. IMHO, the new episode "Schisms" is a good example of
this.

--
Dave Schaumann da...@cs.arizona.edu

Aldo Castillo

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Oct 21, 1992, 5:59:05 PM10/21/92
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Ellie Blackwell (M17...@mwvm.mitre.org) wrote:

>I feel she (Troy) is underdeveloped,

he he he, that was funny ;-)


Aldo Castillo
Mountain View, CA

Eugene J Friedmann

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Oct 26, 1992, 3:28:53 PM10/26/92
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The only people I know who like Troi only like her for her accent and her
breasts. As for me, I wave often wanted to, if you'll excuse the oxymoron, see
her gone!

I'm not against the idea of an empath (though I never could understand exactly
when she could or could not be empathic), and I'm certainly *not* against the
idea of a female character on the bridge (I'd like to see more of 'em!).
However, this character seems to me to be the female equivalent of Kirk in that
if it's an alien, she'll sleep with it!!! However, at the same time she (the
character) seems to be trying to project a, for lack of a better word,
wholesome image. At least her mother comes right out with the fact that she
likes and wants sex!

Finally, Ms. Sirtis' acting ability is no where near that of most of the other
members of the cast. She looks like a member of a high school play's cast in
her scenes with Mr. Stewart!

On a different subject... does anyone know how I could contact Mark Okrand? I,
too, am a linguist with a great interest in the possibilities of
exo-linguistics. Please email me if you can help.

By the way, give me a break O Lords of the Flamers. This is the first time
I've posted anywhere.

LJFriedmann

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